Odds of winning.

Reply #70

psykomo — Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:32:19 GMT

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Reply #69

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:24:00 GMT

The real odds for any lottery game is the number of tickets you buy before you win.

Statical odds of 1 in a billion don't mean much to the person that wins on their first

play. The odds never helped me win anything.

RL

Reply #68

SergeM — Sat, 05 Oct 2013 10:37:24 GMT

I did lotto max:

SergeM Multi-Province Lotto Max 4 of 7 12-19-28-34-35-43-49 12-16-19-20-28-34-42 $20

Multi-Province

Statistic Current Month Last Month Current Year Last Year Lifetime

Other

Picks 1 1 2 0 2

Hits 1 0 1 0 1

Hit Ratio 100.00% 0.00% 50.00% 0.00% 50.00%

Winnings $20 $0 $20 $0 $20

Prize Ratio 1197.60% 0.00% 598.80% 0.00% 598.80

Reply #67

RJOh — Sun, 29 Sep 2013 17:22:14 GMT

Especially to you, it's the only one that counts.

Reply #66

SergeM — Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:26:23 GMT

Your opinion counts.

Reply #65

SkyLine69 — Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:51:45 GMT

I have to disagree. G-D bless America having the right STILL to agree to disagree lol. A

most EVERY week I predict 1 to 3 numbers correct no matter which game I decide to concentrate, study and play. did you notice I said study. If you do not study for your test in school you are likely to fail. I do admit this is a game of luck but an awfully lot of skill goes into those serious about playing. My world consist of G-D, family, our cafe and beating this game. Nothing Else really. For the past

Reply #64

onlymoney — Mon, 23 Sep 2013 17:32:54 GMT

Ok, 25 quarters.

Reply #63

SergeM — Sun, 15 Sep 2013 10:27:37 GMT

He said in order to hit a 53 number JP lottery, it would be equivalent to throwing 26 quarters in the air and they all land on the same side. He said try doing that with only 5 quarters and you'll see how difficult it is.

That is not correct.

Reply #62

LottoMetro — Sun, 01 Sep 2013 22:24:09 GMT

Coin tosses in real-life are actually biased to the side of the coin they are flipped from even if the coin is unbiased.

You can increases your chances of getting the jackpot by parlaying winnings.

The most optimal strategy in roulette (if you must play) is to bet the lesser of your entire fortune or the amount you desire to gain, on a single red/black bet.

My random factoids for the day.

Reply #61

butch2030 — Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:28:05 GMT

Here's last night drawing for the Illinois Lotto Game my Group 300. Top 2 lines match 5 of 6.

Food for thought.

************* GRP

2011-04-30 4 28 38 45 47 52 300

2013-08-26 4 28 30 38 45 52 300

2005-11-05 4 36 45 47 51 52 300

2005-12-14 14 40 45 47 51 52 300

*************

Good Luck Best Wishes To ALL....................................

Combinations of numbers are found in all Jackpot Games. I find these combinations put them into Groups. The Pattern t... [ More ]

Reply #60

Coin Toss — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:53:26 GMT

Re: coins......

There was a game at a casino in Vegas called The Park called 2-Up. People loved this game, it was incredible how popular it was. They had a small pit as if it was something you'd see at a zoo or wildlife place. There were three people all dressed as Aussies, one guy in a bush hat calling the game and two very good looking females in safari clothes.

The females each had a paddle and a coin and tossed the coin up in the air and then it landed on the paddle. There were only th... [ More ]

Reply #59

Ronnie316 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 21:12:16 GMT

Thank goodness, thank you butch. I knew I could count on you to understand a forgive. Truly divine.

Reply #58

butch2030 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:59:07 GMT

To error is human, To forgive is divine........... You are Forgiven...................

Reply #57

Ronnie316 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:54:44 GMT

Well I guess its not the first time I made a boo boo. Thanks for getting me back on track Butch.

Reply #56

butch2030 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 20:49:21 GMT

The challenge was for SCOUSER. I think Ronnie got alittle ahead of himself.

Reply #55

onlymoney — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:03:19 GMT

Yes, you're correct. Those are two different scenarios. Flipping the same coin over and over again is one thing, throwing a bunch of coins in the air is totally something else.

Rarely will you toss (5) coins in the air and have them show one side when they land.

In fact, a news reporter years ago was talking about the high odds of hitting a JP by using that same analogy, but on a larger scale. He said in order to hit a 53 number JP lottery, it would be equivalent to throwing 26 quarters in... [ More ]

Reply #54

MADDOG10 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:38:23 GMT

Well, if that's the case onlymoney why don't you throw (5) coins and predict the probability that , 2 will be heads and

3 and three will be tails. Do you think the probability would still be 50/50? You're Equasion of flipping one coin verses (5) coins would be a whole new frontier, don't you think

Reply #53

SergeM — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:23:42 GMT

LOTTO MAX Main Draw

Match Prize Odds/$5 Play

7 of 7 Win or Share JACKPOT of at least $10 Million1 (87% of Pools Fund*) 1: 28,633,528

6 of 7+Bonus Share of 4% of Pools Fund* 1: 4,090,504

6 of 7 Share of 4% of Pools Fund* 1: 99,768.4

5 of 7 Share of 5% of Pools Fund* 1: 1,583.6

4 of 7 $20* 1: 71.3

3 of 7+Bonus $20* 1: 76.7

3 of 7 Free Play (Three Quick Pick Selections) 1: 8.1

Expensive game, I wouldn't play it and I don't plan to... [ More ]

Reply #52

RJOh — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:39:14 GMT

Was the challenge for scouser or SergeM

Reply #51

Ronnie316 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:29:34 GMT

Will SergeM accept the Canada Lotto Max challenge

Reply #50

butch2030 — Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:07:18 GMT

Think what you may, but I believe I can pick better numbers than you can any day. Take your Canada Lotto Max Game. Here are 4 games out of the 205 drawings to date. I would be willing to bet my 7 numbers 12, 20, 22, 30, 34, 43, 49 from my Group 6 will hit before any 7 numbers than you can come up with in any future drawing in the Lotto Max Game. I only need to play 1 set of numbers (don't need anymore than that).

P.S. I have 46 Groups that make up 124 of the 205 drawing to date - Thats over... [ More ]

Reply #49

SergeM — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 09:57:32 GMT

Stop laughing, maybe they won

Reply #48

onlymoney — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 00:39:48 GMT

Jimmy had 9,999 imaginary friends and an Uncle who bet five $1 QPs in every drawing for five years and some of them still bet $5 to win $500 when they were out over $1000. I don't know how he forced them to do, but he said he did.

You're killing me Stack

Reply #47

SergeM — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 21:45:43 GMT

A bookie always wins.

I suggested before that if you are a lottery dealer, you can play yourself in your own business.

Reply #46

SergeM — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:13:15 GMT

There is a warning online and on flyers not to get addicted and to get help to stop playing.

Some people play the lottery, others only talk about it. The last group mostly imgagines what one could do with the money of a won jackpot.

Reply #45

Stack47 — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 05:47:36 GMT

And above, you don't win, you loose if you don't beat the odds double or better.

Is there a lottery rule in tiny print on the back of the ticket that says a player must keep on wagering after collecting $500 for every $1 they bet?

Jimmy had 9,999 imaginary friends and an Uncle who bet five $1 QPs in every drawing for five years and some of them still bet $5 to win $500 when they were out over $1000. I don't know how he forced them to do, but he said he did.

Some players may always win... [ More ]

Reply #44

Stack47 — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 05:34:25 GMT

A player can do alot in your fantasies.

It's called gambling; ever hear of the concept?

You can run through all kind of possible scenarios, for your buck you mostly can get 500 dollars if you win, and bottom line is that you if you pick unlucky, that one won't even show up after 3000 drawings while the average is 1000 drawings.

You're getting close; a player bets and either wins or loses. In your pick-3 game, were all the straight digits numbers drawn once in last 1000 drawings?

T... [ More ]

Reply #43

SergeM — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:57:00 GMT

In most pick-3 games a player can bet $2 on a straight number, win $998 or bet $3 and win $1497. They can lose and make the same bet in the next 165 drawing, win and still collect $1000.

A player can do alot in your fantasies. You can run through all kind of possible scenarios, for your buck you mostly can get 500 dollars if you win, and bottom line is that you if you pick unlucky, that one won't even show up after 3000 drawings while the average is 1000 drawings. If you can time your bet by... [ More ]

Reply #42

SergeM — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:48:12 GMT

When I take you by math and word, it is 500:-1, not 500:1, as 1 is gone.

Your odds would be 1:999 and it pays 500:-1 or do you prefer 499:1 as 499 is the net payout and according to the article and logic you must substract the negative value (500-1=499).

And above, you don't win, you loose if you don't beat the odds double or better. What some players did, is history, past tense. Some players may always win by pure luck without reasoning or system.

Reply #41

SergeM — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 00:42:32 GMT

You cut out some.

The odds against a random day being a Sunday are 6 : 1.

If I translate it to the opposite, that would be 1:6 or 1/6. There you get a conflict in comprehension and putting things right.

The chance that a random day is not Sunday, or just the chance that any day is not a Sunday. 1-1/7 = 6/7.

p(!Sunday)=6/7

6/7 is correct for mathematicians.

A douzaine pays two to one, the dealer pushes two chips against one winning chip.

There also is a nice article about b... [ More ]

Reply #40

helpmewin — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:11:25 GMT

you know what works best

Reply #39

helpmewin — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:10:31 GMT

your funny i barely have time to read your post and they gone

Reply #38

Stack47 — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 04:08:56 GMT

Sone layouts were labeled 31 for 1 to attract business but when the word for is used it includes the bet.

Pick-3 straight payoffs are actually $500 for $1 because they keep the $1 bet. If you noticed pick-3 payout charts don't give odds, but say how much each bet can win and basically it's the players who are saying 500 to 1 or 900 to 1 in the mythical online games.

Reply #37

Stack47 — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:57:08 GMT

A mathematician would start playing pick 3 when the payout is much above 1000 for a straight combination.

In most pick-3 games a player can bet $2 on a straight number, win $998 or bet $3 and win $1497. They can lose and make the same bet in the next 165 drawing, win and still collect $1000.

A gambler becomes a programmer with the illusion of winning net money at a game that a mathematician would never want to play.

And that's probably why LB doesn't play baby games. Bookies will tel... [ More ]

Reply #36

Coin Toss — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:47:11 GMT

This is a pretty good explanation of odds and probabilities, from Wikipedia:

The odds in favor of an event or a proposition is the ratio of the probability that the event will happen to the probability that the event will not happen. For example, the odds that a randomly chosen day of the week is a Sunday are one to six, which is sometimes written 1 : 6.

'Odds' are an expression of relative probabilities. Often 'odds' are quoted as odds against, rather than as odds in favor. For example, t... [ More ]

Reply #35

Stack47 — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:21:24 GMT

Instead of talking percentages, I'll simply say each of the ten digits are part of 271 straight combinations. If you played them all straight and the game pays off at $600 to $1 like in my state, winning 50% of the bets will show a small profit.

What if I told you I could be 100% correct a small percentage of the time?

I agree because a broken clock has the correct time twice a day.

(Baby games still piss me off.)

And that's why the Lotteries went to the large jackpot games. The... [ More ]

Reply #34

LottoBoner — Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:07:59 GMT

When you start talking percentages and math, I am not sure if you are Jimmy with his multiple log on names.

What if I told you I could be 100% correct a small percentage of the time?

(Baby games still piss me off.)

Of course if I am wrong then the whole system needs to REBOOT. However the focus must remain.

BTW, I did catch your post in the NAPALM thread.

Its hard for me to judge who should be promoted. As many great posters from say five years ago, are simply dormant. I dont... [ More ]

Reply #33

SergeM — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:20:55 GMT

Each digit is one of ten digits. There are three digits.

If you play a combination straight,

you need to win within 500 drawings.

If you play boxed with the same combination,

you should win within 80 drawings.

A mathematician would start playing pick 3 when the payout is much above 1000 for a straight combination.

A gambler becomes a programmer with the illusion of winning net money at a game that a mathematician would never want to play.

Some people win, many more loose and... [ More ]

Reply #32

Stack47 — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 23:08:22 GMT

Each digit has a 27.1% chance of being drawn and if you can get $600 to $1 payoff, a profit could be made being correct in 50% of the drawings without any filters.

Reply #31

onlymoney — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:46:47 GMT

I ran out. I'll have to reorder from Avon. How about a lighter pink? Maybelline has a sweet fuity Utopia. It's part of their new fabrege fragrance and jewelry collection.

Reply #30

helpmewin — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:56:01 GMT

do you have any pick lipstick the red is pretty bright

Reply #29

grwurston — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 20:51:03 GMT

86% would be good enough, then filter out some of the #'s for a smaller playlist. Easy.

Reply #28

onlymoney — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 20:46:13 GMT

It's not a good system unless you are correct 95% of the time..lol

Reply #27

grwurston — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 20:31:01 GMT

You are correct. You would simply play all the combos (36) that have a 3 in them. You could also do it for the Pick 4 but there

would be 84 combos to play.

Reply #26

JAP69 — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 18:00:53 GMT

Question number 3 is yes

Last statement: I like accuracy for the number (combination) to fall within a certain time frame.

Reply #25

JAP69 — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:54:01 GMT

One combination

Check my predictions for SC I posted earlier today. I will be wagering on them later today.

Reply #24

onlymoney — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:53:34 GMT

If you think one number will definitely show like 3 for example, and the winner won't be a double, a system exists that has 36 combos which will guarantee a box win.

Reply #23

RJOh — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:48:47 GMT

Are you saying one number and meaning one combination? As far as I know having only one number (one digit) in both pick3 and pick4 doesn't wins anything.

Posting only one combination for each drawing would be an interesting concept but with a minimum of ten allowed for everyone I doubt if it will ever happen because predictors like to give themselves the best chance for a win.

Reply #22

Lucky Loser — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:47:34 GMT

Question #1.....Yes

Question#2......Yes

Question#3......No

Last statement is all about patience and has nothing to do with accuracy if this is the approach taken.

I really like simple questions needing simple answers.

L.L.

Reply #21

SergeM — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:41:42 GMT

Original Post by JAP69 Can one number be picked in pick 3 and win? Simplified not optimistic: 1 right *10 *10 = -100 + 80 = -20, so the answer is no.

Can one number be picked in pick 4 and win?

Has it been done on the forums here at Lottery Post?

Sometimes a number hits the day it is picked and sometimes it may take longer.

At any lottery game you need two sure numbers to win.

It is hard to get a 2 if 2 with 2 numbers.

At keno you can play the couple and make a little net b... [ More ]

Reply #20

JAP69 — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 03:20:00 GMT

Can one number be picked in pick 3 and win?

Can one number be picked in pick 4 and win?

Has it been done on the forums here at Lottery Post?

Sometimes a number hits the day it is picked and sometimes it may take longer.

Reply #19

WIN D — Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:12:21 GMT

These guys that float by the forums every now and then are simple minded......as far as the games go .

They don't have a clue about the difference in ODDS and Probability.

They also spit out the word EVENT and say odds don't change .......and like that's the END. LOL

Hey... an event can be a one toss event.....or...a 10 toss game event......or 20 tosses of a coin ...or even 100 tosses in a row etc. etc.

An event is what the game says it is..... Here's a game for ya. I... [ More ]

Reply #18

SergeM — Sat, 17 Aug 2013 23:50:57 GMT

An idea is becoming a retailer and validating tickets in your own business. A percentage of the spent money on lottery tickets would return into your pocket. How about that for improving the payout

Reply #17

RJOh — Sat, 17 Aug 2013 15:24:16 GMT

Why not sell a winning lottery system to somebody else? I didn't realize there was a shortage of money in the world.

From what I've read, lots of winning lottery systems are already for sale but they don't work as most players expect. They either have players spending more money than they wish to spend or waiting for a longer period of time to win than they wishes to wait.

Reply #16

SergeM — Fri, 16 Aug 2013 10:14:27 GMT

Maybe you should pick the horse that is best built and that is getting more and stronger shots by the doctor.

Reply #15

Stack47 — Fri, 16 Aug 2013 04:42:16 GMT

Why not sell a winning lottery system to somebody else?

I'm trying to figure out why a horse player wouldn't want to buy a system that picks winners. I'd even buy a system that never picks winners so I could eliminate the horses it picks.

it never ceases to amaze me how many people fork over hard earned cash for a system that picks winners.

Reply #14

Stack47 — Fri, 16 Aug 2013 04:32:48 GMT

Each draw is an absolute event , reliant on no other influences from the past.

You're not the first to say it and certainly won't be the last and I won't be the first or last to say at least one of the digits in the last pick-3 drawing has a 65.7% chance of repeating. Somebody else won't be the first or last saying any three digits have a 65.7% chance. Here's your chance to be the first to tell us which three out of the other seven digits has the same chance. It doesn't matter which three yo... [ More ]

Reply #13

RJOh — Fri, 16 Aug 2013 01:34:38 GMT

Every time there is a lottery drawing there is a good chance some one win but there is even a better chance it won't you.

Reply #12

onlymoney — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 23:06:07 GMT

Similarly, a tossed coin that comes up heads 9 times in a row has an equal chance of coming up tails on the next toss, they are all separate events.

This is the whole point of pattern seeking that you are missing. Sure there is a 50/50 chance of the coin showing heads or tails after a nine streak of heads showing in a row, but the most important question is, what would you bet on? Heads or tails?

And why

Reply #11

SergeM — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:43:32 GMT

Let met put it like a good math teacher said it.

When you buy one combination for lotto, what is your chance of winninig?

One

Reply #10

LottoBoner — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 21:02:26 GMT

You play horses without a system. Not smart.

I have a good system for horses. However since they closed all the OTB, it dont help much.

This may or may not be true (hey Jimmy wanna chime in?) I always love a good argument. (unfortunately I cant punch anybody over the internet)

The Odds may stay the same, but the probabality is always changing.

If you dont buy a ticket the odds of winning is ZERO.

If you buy a ticket the odds of winning is than ZERO.

Why not sell a winning lotte... [ More ]

Reply #9

dr san — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 20:57:41 GMT

Hello, I agree with some of your statements, but look at these, half of the project

That is the wisdom of the first digit of the 56/5 is 100% (00000-55555). Attention but lack the other half

Using the lasts digits, ranging from 0 to 9, then half already guaranteed in any lottery,

Even if it is forged (manipulated) hits ever, but apart from the front of the number.

Well you can use these formations as pivot or Faxas.

After that we predict to have a hit in 20-30 draws and not a sing... [ More ]

Reply #8

RJOh — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:35:01 GMT

Go figure. But thanks.........

You had to go figure for yourself, what works for you may be different.

Reply #7

scouser — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:55:53 GMT

Don't understand most of our post except the last statement, what I refer to as chance' should be expectancy .

You improve your expectation of winning by buying more tickets , but your overall odds of one of your sets being selected remains the same. I have read some people believe buying two tickets halves the odds of winning the jackpot! Go figure. But thanks for putting me right on the correct terminology.

Reply #6

scouser — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:49:32 GMT

I suspect you said that without ever having looked at past drawings of any games to see if patterns existed or repeated that would make one think other wise.

Past drawings have no influence on future drawings of the lottery, people who believe otherwise keep the lottery system touts in business. Similarly, a tossed coin that comes up heads 9 times in a row has an equal chance of coming up tails on the next toss, they are all separate events.

Predicting numbers is not a science, the onl... [ More ]

Reply #5

SergeM — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:15:04 GMT

Sometimes I would bet your life on it with success that a certain number will come out for a certain drawing against all odds. Of course other people will have a zero success with this kind of betting.

Odds are calculated. What is improving odds? Odds for exactly what? Improving your game might mean buying just one ticket, the winning one and not to play the loosing ones. Odds and expectancy, you mix it up

Reply #4

RJOh — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:54:20 GMT

There can never be a true predictor of lottery numbers drawn. Each draw is an absolute event , reliant on no other influences from the past .

You state that as if you know that to be an absolute fact. I suspect you said that without ever having looked at past drawings of any games to see if patterns existed or repeated that would make one think other wise.

You also look at predictions much the same way. Predictions aren't absolute, if they were then weathermen couldn't predict the weathe... [ More ]

Reply #3

SergeM — Thu, 15 Aug 2013 07:58:37 GMT

Generate a wheel with all numbers, condition 2 if 6.

Generate as many quick pick lines.

Compare both to the history of you game.

Sum up the costs and the payouts.

You might want to repeat this with different quick picks and different wheels, involving all numbes.

There is a full lotto quick pick, involving all numbers, that equals a wheel.

A suggestion of what you can do.

You might also run a wheel filled by random numbers against a wheel filled by numbers of your system or

Reply #2

scouser — Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:56:48 GMT

Not sure what you mean by better odds. if you mean better number of chances then you are correct , but only because you played a large number of tickets . However your odds of winning the jackpot on any of the sets of numbers generated remains the same be it 98,820 QPs or the system set.

A qp has the same odds of being drawn as any of the sets on a wheel.

I'm rusty on factorials but I believe there is 1 in 3,819,816 of getting 5 numbers correct in 56 and those odds of having a set drawn ch... [ More ]

Reply #1

Ronnie316 — Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:51:14 GMT

In fact, a quick pick has exactly the same odds of being drawn as a so called system' generated ticket.

Ok, so a QP has the same odds as a system ticket. But what about a group of system tickets over a group of QPs??? Im talking about getting BETTER ODDS playing 28 numbers in a 5/56 game which is 98,820 lines.

Odds of winning.

scouser — Wed, 14 Aug 2013 22:09:01 GMT

There can never be a true predictor of lottery numbers drawn. Each draw is an absolute event , reliant on no other influences from the past .

The only way to improve your odds of winning , is to buy more tickets and no, buying two tickets does not halve the odds of winning. The only other way to improve your chances of winning is to wheel sets of numbers , but even that does not change the odds against any of your six number combos being drawn.

In fact, a quick pick has exactly the same od... [ More ]