pick 4 gold. permutation strategy

Reply #64

grwurston — Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:04:43 GMT

For doubles players. 1ST pair, Lowest - Highest digits touched 117 out of 153 draws Md. midday. 82 out of 120 on the eve.

Going back to Jan. 1, 2013.

Here's the best part. 93 out of the 117 mid dbls. The dbl digit was either the lowest or highest digit. 79.48%

On the eve, the dbl digit was either the lowest or highest digit 63 times out 82. 76.82%.

Observe. Watch the numbers to learn and win.

Reply #63

cash4ninja — Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:29:52 GMT

Don't sleep on permutations...

Reply #62

cash4ninja — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:41:55 GMT

New York 2931 = permutation 2431

The 2XXX permutation is GOLDEN

Reply #61

grwurston — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:22:41 GMT

82 Middle Pair HL / 2ND pair 47 LH WTG

Reply #60

grwurston — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:18:11 GMT

5150 BP HL, HL, Wrong pair, right orders. Didn't play doubles either. MP was out 13 days so I went with the cold pair.

Reply #59

grwurston — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:46:29 GMT

I'm hoping someone will perhaps try it out and see what it can do. Of course there is some tracking involved so you need

to do a little homework... Hey, straight hits are worth it. It's a different approach, but you know some folks are set in their

ways/methods so... And it's not at all complicated either. Just watching the #'s ya know...

Reply #58

cash4ninja — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:27:17 GMT

T hanks for posting.......

I'm enjoying my new permutation toy.

My bank account lovin it also.......

I like simple play......

I still don't lurk lottery post for new systems...

I'm here only to share a little.......

Not all, just enough to steer folks in right direction

I give all thanks to Mike K... and Lantern aka Mon el aka Fernando...

And Todd for the wonderful thread archives......

Reply #57

grwurston — Fri, 15 Nov 2013 00:12:52 GMT

Tonight, 1ST pair MP HL, 2ND pair LH or HL

Reply #56

cash4ninja — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:48:57 GMT

4827

2431 permutation.

Reply #55

grwurston — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:09:15 GMT

Thanks

Reply #54

cash4ninja — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 04:04:19 GMT

Good work.

Reply #53

grwurston — Thu, 14 Nov 2013 03:24:17 GMT

What does this chart tell us? Well, for starters the HL order for 1ST Pairs hit 18 times in 23 days. So what does that mean?

There are 24 straight combos in single and 12 straight combos in double Pick 4's. Using 1234, 12 combos have the lowest

-highest digits (1-4) touching each other. Six as 1-4, six as 4-1. Using 1123 for doubles,10 combos have the 1-3 touching

each other. Five as 1-3, five as 3-1.

18 times the HL order appeared as the First Pair. So, no matter what digits you use... [ More ]

Reply #52

grwurston — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:45:35 GMT

Damm! I hate when the IE shuts down for updates when you're right in the middle of something! LOL

I just wanted to clarify a couple of things for anyone just jumping into this thread. The 1ST pair is always the lowest and

highest digits of your set. It doesn't matter what they are, or if you are playing singles or doubles. The 2ND pair is always

the digits between the 1ST pair digits. Keep in mind, if you are playing doubles, the 1ST pair digits may be the doubles

themselves.

For... [ More ]

Reply #51

smooth11484 — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:54:36 GMT

so what 2431 is most of the time present how do we kno what 2431 is

Reply #50

cash4ninja — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:38:07 GMT

Thanks ma???

South Carolina has the easiest

Most countriest lottery in the nation....

They have no facebook page

They say vending machines not allowed in the state to sell lotto

They just old school. And very predictable.....

Today imma just apply dr miracle

5209 strategy and see what it do

Reply #49

cash4ninja — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:35:37 GMT

Laying n bed. Reading over and re reading. Great info

... seems like a more advance filter on permutations... awesome.. thanks for sharing

Reply #48

helpmewin — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:59:30 GMT

Awesome job cash4ninja

Reply #47

grwurston — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 05:20:36 GMT

Only 2 things to look for low -high digits touching or split. Play the one that is hot. What this whole method does is cut

down the # of combos (perms) to play with each 4 digit combo. If you know where the lowest and highest digits will appear

position wise, the other 2 digits have to be in the remaining positions. Yeah, it's somewhat out of the box as far as

positional tracking goes. But try it. Track it for a month. Don't play, just track, see for yourself. This is my actual chart fo... [ More ]

Reply #46

cash4ninja — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 04:23:56 GMT

Isn't this more pair. Strategy ????

COOL OBSERVATION. BUT DONT SEE IT IMPROVING HOW I USE THE PERMUTATIONS...

Reply #45

grwurston — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:17:47 GMT

Sometimes the lowest and highest digits do not touch each other. When they are split they can only appear 3 ways.

As positions 1-3, 1-4, 2-4. These can be tracked the same way as the front, middle and back pairs.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/268170/3335128

Let's say you want to play the #'s 0278. 08 is your first pair, 08 are the low and high digits.

If you know through your tracking, middle pairs are hot or due and the higher # is hitting first in the LH/HL order, you

play... [ More ]

Reply #44

grwurston — Tue, 12 Nov 2013 01:39:47 GMT

I was just rereading this post and I saw a mistake I made in Example 2. This is what it SHOULD be. # 6328. 28 is lowest

and highest digits, order is LH, 2 lower than 8 and is Back pair. 63 is the 2nd pair, order is HL 6 is higher than the 3. I'm

sure that caused major confusion since it contradicted Example 1. My apologies, I guess from now on I shouldn't do lottery,

watch football and talk on the phone all at the same time.

Reply #43

cash4ninja — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 21:02:13 GMT

South Carolina

2750 midday

Another 2431 permutation. I love SC

Reply #42

cash4ninja — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:50:08 GMT

I say da same thing. Its simple as can be. Its only 24 permutations for singles and 12 permutations for doubles....

Nothing complicated about it. Its just knowing what to do with it......

All people play lose and win their game differently......

So simple. A basic example. You can play same permutation

Everydraw. For a month. If that permutation fall more than once you profit....

Simple as me taking breaths when I breath...

210/4 $52x 60 draws. $3120/$2250 = 1.38... [ More ]

Reply #41

Merlin123 — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:42:59 GMT

whats so freaking complicated here...your just filtering numbers here dude..

Reply #40

helpmewin — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 05:07:08 GMT

but whatever works i guess

Reply #39

grwurston — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 03:21:43 GMT

Thank you!!! Wasn't sure if I really wanted to post it. But I saw you guys doing all these perm listings and thought, way too

many combos to play. This is easier. Kind of found it by accident. Was following my signature. The harder part is getting

the right combos. Good Luck with it

Reply #38

cash4ninja — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 03:08:41 GMT

Cool. Thanks. I knew I could get that out of you. Awesome. It all helps. Even Robert Walsh said. Use multiple strategies to get to the winning number faster..... ...... If you didn't know you're my best LP colleague. Mon el is my role model. If either of you two need anything hit me up....

land roadster out of Wisconsin. He maintains a low LP profile. He introduced me to the bessoffit ware on the planet... Thanks.

Reply #37

grwurston — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 03:07:01 GMT

This method tells you how to arrange your #'s after you pick your combos to play. Set up the hit- skip chart like this.

1st pair Order 2nd pair order

F pr / M pr / B pr LH / HL LH / HL

Reply #36

grwurston — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:52:37 GMT

Yes. You are not tracking all 24 perms. Use a hit - skip chart. Example, # is 1954. 19 is lowest- highest digits. They are

front pair. Order is LH 1 is lower than 9. 54 is 2nd pair. Order is HL 5 is higher than 4. Example 2, # is 6328. 32 is lowest -

highest digits. They are middle pair. Order is HL 3 is higher than 2. 68 is 2nd pair. Order is LH. 6 is lower than 8.

Look at past results, you will see lowest and highest digits often appear next to each other. If you know where they will

Reply #35

bigdaddy — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:45:43 GMT

Way more work than is needed...

Reply #34

cash4ninja — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:30:06 GMT

Is this related to nailing correct permutation order. I think I understand a little. But it seems like it complicated the tracking of the 24 single permutations. Or the 12 double permutations......

pls explain more...

Reply #33

grwurston — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:26:33 GMT

Lowest and highest digits are often next to each other. Track as front pair, middle pair, back pair. Order is LH HL of the pair.

Reply #32

MonEl — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:25:26 GMT

Thanks.

Not only that, but each of the 6 patterns equals 1/6 of the total straight numbers, so 2 patterns = 2/6 = 1/3 of the total of 720 Straights, filter out 3 patterns = 1/2 of the total singles not too bad. I mean of the total of straight singles as the Doubles are 270 of them, each of the patterns of the Doubles = 90 Straights.

Reply #31

cash4ninja — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 02:12:20 GMT

231 and 321 looks awesome for minnesota....

This is pick3/4 gold. Very simple.

Thanks for your added expert input...

Most won't understand. Most dont want to understand

Oh well more wins 4 us.

Reply #30

MonEl — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:52:05 GMT

The Permutation Filter for the pick 3 or the LMH Filter.

L = 1, M = 2 and H = 3

The Singles are 6 ways: 123 132 231 213 312 321

The Doubles are 3 ways: 112 121 211

Minnesota (MN) Daily 3

Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5-7-2 231

Sat, Nov 09, 2013 9-9-4 112

Fri, Nov 08, 2013 8-9-0 231

Thu, Nov 07, 2013 8-6-0 321

Wed, Nov 06, 2013 7-6-7 121

Tue, Nov 05, 2013 6-9-1 231

Mon, Nov 04, 2013 7-8-0 231

Sun, Nov 03, 2013 5-5-0 112

Sat, Nov 02, 2013 2-8-6 132

Fri, No... [ More ]

Reply #29

grwurston — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:45:45 GMT

Pick 4 has 4 digits. Break down into 2 pairs. 1st pair = lowest and highest digits. 2nd pair is other 2. Track the position and

order of 1st pair. Order of 2nd. Easy.

Reply #28

cash4ninja — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:16:05 GMT

Thanks for your positive explanation on how to combat stats. You're smart

Reply #27

Igamble — Mon, 11 Nov 2013 00:55:01 GMT

on the contrary as you can see for 2431 perm.-it has the MOST HITS- if you WAIT just until the 30th skip and START playimg that 2431 perm. rright after the 30 th skip you are in gold.iTHE KEYWORDS ARE SKIPS/WAIT/MOST OFTEN PATTERN.

Reply #26

CARBOB — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 15:06:58 GMT

I don't think it will make a difference in the state of Florida!! The stats below are for the six structures above, every draw since Mid draws started.

RANK PKG HITS MED MAX AVG SKIPS 2 3

2431 210 49 30 98 40.80 6 98 30

2143 210 36 22 24 55.53 22 24 1

2413 210 33 92 102 60.58 92 102 2

2314 210 32 34 105 62.47 8 34 105

2341 210 32 2 65 62.47 2 65 2

2134 210 30 77 97 66.63 40 97 77

Reply #25

grwurston — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:16:13 GMT

The order the # comes in. Which of the 24 ways for single, 12 for a double.

Reply #24

chrissy16 — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:05:06 GMT

I am lost, what is a permutation

Reply #23

New York — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:43:53 GMT

Thanks Guys.

I'd appreciate it very much.

I wanna incorporate this wealth of info to my methods.

It looks like it can help

Reply #22

cash4ninja — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:40:27 GMT

Yes sir..... U can play em all for .25 straight. For $52. To win 2250$ online....

tracking and learning the flow of permutations. You will see they have patterns also. Imagine being able to trap a permutation. You could play a few of em to further reduce odds.... I know you're smart. You will find this info useful..... I have the site that arranges the permutations if u want it...

Reply #21

grwurston — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:37:02 GMT

Yes.

Reply #20

grwurston — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:35:33 GMT

The keys give me 1 out of 4 #'s. I'm studying to find a 2nd key that is just as accurate. Sometimes you learn things, but not

when you expected to. Permutations for example...

Reply #19

New York — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:21:17 GMT

Thanks for this golden info!

New York had 5098 for the evening.

So, Is the permutation this?: 2143

Reply #18

cash4ninja — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:11:06 GMT

How. Have u been doing. Ur the key digit master.

Reply #17

grwurston — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:02:30 GMT

Yes it can.

Reply #16

cash4ninja — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:56:31 GMT

this info right here is on another level. Can be appled to pick 3 also....

i hope all my LP friends can use it his info for some good. I want all of us to eat well...

Reply #15

grwurston — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:40:59 GMT

Picking the permutations is easier than picking the numbers. Pencil and paper tracking. Keep it simple.

Reply #14

cash4ninja — Sun, 10 Nov 2013 03:24:45 GMT

Pa played 2931

Thats a 2431 permutation.

Reply #13

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:48:34 GMT

For the 24 perms singles:

There are 4 filters that have 4 basic patterns each and 6 ways each of the 4 patterns.

Those are the digits filters 4 of them.

Next the pairs filters:

Since those are kind of too many and can therefore get complicated I will only make 3 of themEach of them has 12 patterns having 2 ways each.

That would make a total of maybe 7 possible filters.

But these are just ideas based on a more or less quick look at the 24 ways, there is no way yet to know if suc... [ More ]

Reply #12

cash4ninja — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:09:21 GMT

Like today in sc

4982

2431 permutation

Too bad sc lottery I'm on vacation

If I wasn't I'd took $$ from you today

******* THIS STRATEGY NOT FOR THE LESS EDUCATED **********

Ga midday

6980

2431 permutation

Reply #11

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 22:00:26 GMT

I think that for the 12 ways:

1123 1132 1213 1231 1312 1321 2113 2131 2311 3112 3121 3211

For the 24 ways:

1234 1243 1324 1342 1423 1432 2134 2143 2314 2341 2413 2431 3124 3142 3214 3241 3412 3421 4123 4132 4213 4231 4312 4321

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More stuff:

1112 1121 1211 2111

And

1111

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1122 1212 1221 2112 2121 2211

Reply #10

cash4ninja — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 21:52:49 GMT

Itsok. Permutations is pick3/4 gold. I thinkn the groups can be

1/2/3/4

The 2431 2413 2134 2143 2341 2314

Plays very often....

omg. The state lotteries gonna hate me.

Reply #9

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 21:07:52 GMT

Something is wrong with me today I can't think straight right now. Sorry.

Reply #8

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 20:20:56 GMT

This are the 24 permutations for the pick 4 singles in 2 forms:

1234

1243

1324

1342

1423

1432

2143

2134

2341

2314

2431

2413

3124

3142

3214

3241

3412

3421

4132

4123

4231

4213

4321

4312

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ABCD

ABDC

ACBD

ACDB

ADBC

ADCB

BADC

BACD

BCDA

BCAD

BDCA

BDAC

CABD

CADB

CBAD

CBDA

CDAB

CDBA

DACB

DABC

DBCA

DBAC

DCBA

DCAB

Reply #7

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:49:55 GMT

I have not done it, but if I wanted to, first I would take the 24 permutations and try to sort them into sections, each section would be of a particular kind of permutations that is the permutations in each section would have some characteristic or characteristics in common, for example if you sort the 24 permutations into 4 kinds, you would have 4 kinds of 6 permutations each, 6 X 4 = 24. So each time that you filtered out 1 kind you would be filtering out 6 permutations, but things don't have... [ More ]

Reply #6

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:33:33 GMT

Yes, I seem to remember my asking and or making those filters together with Mike, the problem with the NCS is that for many of its filters Mike wanted to use his own names for them and not my names so that makes things very hard for me, also he made many other things on his very own, we made many things together for the Crunch and the NCS, but many things were made just by him.

I have put those programs aside and no longer remember much about them.

I am so more used to use Ricky's software... [ More ]

Reply #5

cash4ninja — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:10:08 GMT

Combination slasher 4. has the filter...

Its called levels.

Mega filter. U can safely eliminate 10

Past permutations and be good.....

Most of the time

Reply #4

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:02:59 GMT

I just noticed that while paurths (Ricky) put a kind of permutations filter on his pick 3 filtered wheeling tool, I don't see that on the pick 4 part of it.

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I don't know if Mike's filtered wheeler has a permutations filter on it, I don't remember, I just took a look at the pick 4 version of it, but can't make neither heads nor tails of it, tried reading his online instructions, but they don't seem to have all the info there.

I am talking about the NCS tool.

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Not kno... [ More ]

Reply #3

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 05:24:33 GMT

The permutation is a filter the 24 ways is a filter with 24 patterns, the 12 ways is a filter with 12 patterns.

But 24 and even 12 ways are too many how to filter out a lot of those ways?

Filtering out each individual way just might not do, we need some sort or sorts of Mega Filtration(s).

I probably said way too much already, oh I didn't yet try to develop such a way or ways of Mega Filtration, Super Filtration, Ultra Filtration or what ever a person might want to call it, after all I... [ More ]

Reply #2

MonEl — Sat, 09 Nov 2013 04:56:19 GMT

On the pick 4 game, the box singles are 24 ways numbers = 1234

All 210 boxed singles:

0123, 0124, 0125, 0126, 0127, 0128, 0129, 0134, 0135, 0136, 0137, 0138, 0139, 0145, 0146, 0147, 0148, 0149, 0156, 0157, 0158, 0159, 0167, 0168, 0169, 0178, 0179, 0189, 0234, 0235, 0236, 0237, 0238, 0239, 0245, 0246, 0247, 0248, 0249, 0256, 0257, 0258, 0259, 0267, 0268, 0269, 0278, 0279, 0289, 0345, 0346, 0347, 0348, 0349, 0356, 0357, 0358, 0359, 0367, 0368, 0369, 0378, 0379, 0389, 0456, 0457, 0458, 0459,

Reply #1

cash4ninja — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 23:32:07 GMT

Who's been tracking permutations. I have

abcd nope

Dcba nope

Hardly ever. Acending or descending

Now its 1/22 chance for a straight......

pick 4 gold. permutation strategy

cash4ninja — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:42:18 GMT

Its 210 box singles. Play for .25 cent that's $52.00 a draw

Get the single. And the right permutation. Bingo.

Reduce odds to 1 in 24 for a straight.

Who understands dis Magic