Why do so many systems fail?

Reply #39

empassioned1 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:43:46 GMT

I would argue that statistically if a game is played long enough all combinations (whoever birthdays they belong to) will come up, but it's the culmination of when the winner plays those numbers and the randomness of the draw produces them at the same time.

For every JP winner who's played daddy and mommy's birthday and won, there are as Rdgrnr said, a larger number (99%) of people who play them and do not win.

Thank God we are all individual in how we play the game, otherwise we'd all be... [ More ]

Reply #38

empassioned1 — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:28:31 GMT

Well I messed the post up by not quoting the because it's impossible to consistently predict random events (or something like that)

But that is your complete answer... no system is going to work or be full proof or everyone would be winning.

Reply #37

rdgrnr — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 07:54:05 GMT

Exactly.

Reply #36

New York — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 06:59:45 GMT

Lol.

You have better luck than me. My picks compared to QP, I won more with my picks.

That's why I'm always looking for other strategies to incorporate with mine... :D

Reply #35

RedStang — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 06:09:17 GMT

You can have mine for free. Put money in the machine and press QP. It won me about 200 this year.

Reply #34

helpmewin — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 05:56:48 GMT

Reply #33

New York — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 05:10:47 GMT

I went to his website and he got some great systems that look like they work, for the pick 4.

I would like to buy his whole system but it's too much. You can buy them individually but one may need two or three strategies to work.

Sorry Todd, I don't mean to promote SP. Just pointing out some strategies.

Reply #32

RJOh — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 05:06:10 GMT

Without the 99% there wouldn't be a jackpot worthy of the 1% in their right mind buying tickets for.

Reply #31

onlymoney — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:42:46 GMT

Never looked at it that way, but I guess most of us who don't have a winning system hope whatever system we do have, mixed with a little luck, may win here and there.

I'm pretty sure there are many more like the three individuals I mentioned above, but we haven't noticed them.

I wish I knew what they were using. I believe Peter is using a Steve Player system which I want to buy shortly.

Reply #30

JonnyBgood07 — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 01:02:17 GMT

I really can't argue that concept because it's well known over the country that many winners of various JP's (usually Cash5 or 6) have used the same tactics..

How can one argue that it doesn't work.? ..at least with JP related games,you only need to win once anyhow lol

Reply #29

helpmewin — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:56:29 GMT

Welcome mycarry713 Good Luck

Reply #28

mycarry713 — Sun, 29 Dec 2013 22:40:51 GMT

Hello Everyone,

I guess I can take this time to say that I am new to this site, and wish to learn at least one system that can give me some kind of luck. The only system I use, I just carry one number and play it everyday. My country plays all the main state lottos, so you can pick almost any state to play in. However, if your low on funds, you bet smaller. I like the idea of going after a number in each drawing, but with no system or clue, I can't do it.

Reply #27

KY Floyd — Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:30:21 GMT

Ira Curry just cleared about $100 million by playing family birthdays. Do you think that means birthdays are a good way to predict what numbers will be drawn in the future

Reply #26

jackpotismine — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 06:13:03 GMT

Systems fail because we follow logic. That digit won't repeat again, I'm sure of it .

Reply #25

Lucky Loser — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 06:02:09 GMT

Buddy, not to be rude but, it's gonna take a lot more than what you have here.

L.L.

Reply #24

Lucky Loser — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 06:00:19 GMT

Sounds like she knows what the hell she's doing, what to look for, why, and how to spend her money. I like that!!

L.L.

Reply #23

Lucky Loser — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 05:58:32 GMT

This is debatable and I know it for as fact. Even with the pre-tests are factored in, everything is still predictable...and I make money doing it. I know exactly what the problem is, but no one wants to listen and cough it up. Okay, no problem.

L.L.

Reply #22

Candlelight777 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 02:25:05 GMT

My dad always played one set of numbers and bought his one ticket at each PB drawing. His belief was eventually those numbers will come up...and indeed, after a few years of playing them consistently, his numbers did. Only problem was he got sick and had my mom pick up his ticket that evening of the drawing and she forgot...might of had something to do with her not believing in gambling uhmmm...i don't think my dad ever got over it and needless to say i don't think my mom did either.

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Reply #21

JonnyBgood07 — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:58:23 GMT

Any patterns that can be found will not be useful ..????

...tell that to Blessed63...she hit 4 G's off 'patterns' this week with only 4 plays

With hits like that it is encouraging that folks get str8 mided when looking for patterns.Other than statistics,they are the only other logical thing to go by

Reply #20

rdgrnr — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:35:41 GMT

...no one in their right mind would play for years and lose money.

That means about 99% of lottery players are not in their right mind.

Reply #19

p4wanbi — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:24:17 GMT

you're correct...can't put it any way better than this. I personally do a ratio like everything else financially. Income - expenses = ratio (cash flows). If total spend equals more than income, than re-evaluate and play responsibly.

Reply #18

onlymoney — Sat, 28 Dec 2013 00:13:03 GMT

Peter St. Pierre, the guy from Wisconsin, and the Kentucky guy have figured it out. They may not be wealthy, but well ahead of their costs. They have to be in the black because no one in their right mind would play for years and lose money.

Reply #17

geerod2001 — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:52:59 GMT

Play a combination of these numbers for pick 3 all states.

6 1 8

7 5 3

2 9 4

1 3 7---master number

8-1-6 hit STR for mid-day in Georgia today.

Good luck to all LP players.

Reply #16

bobby623 — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:33:40 GMT

IMHO - If all lottery players would take the time to watch actual drawings for a short time, the folks peddling lottery junk would go broke.

Systems fail because there are no systems that work.

Every regular player needs to develop a personal workout incorporating reasonable tracking trends, and then use those results to make

good choices on what to play.

Good luck also helps.

Reply #15

Jon D — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 22:01:22 GMT

Your nose smelt correctly.

Pick3master is well known. Check out his many past usernames:

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/270127/3406414

There are many snake oil salesmen that visit LP from time to time. Most end up getting the boot sooner or later. P3M is among the most resilient, keeps coming back, like a zombie.

I'm sure you'll get to talk to him again. He'll be back...

Reply #14

Wentworth — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:53:47 GMT

BOOTED? Six times? Hmmm i wondered if i smelt a rat there.. whats up with all the boots? He did seem to blab on about nothing much.... whats the scoop

Reply #13

Candlelight777 — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 20:05:36 GMT

which is why we don't have not soo much as one person consistently hitting the JP's

Reply #12

KY Floyd — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:46:59 GMT

Why do so many systems fail?

Because it's impossible to consistently predict random events.

Reply #11

Jon D — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:27:47 GMT

It's too late. He can't answer you. He got booted off the system again.(for the 6th time...

Reply #10

Wentworth — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:23:02 GMT

so did you figure it out or do you plan to continue to keep rambling on and on or are you going to get down to Brass tacks?? Have you been able to use your studies to win consistently? Its not about money really its like you say its an intelectual pursuit. You say you win half the time you play so at a profit? Most of what you say is basicly true and common knowledge on here. I think its time to show some examples of your findings..we like to share here and we do when we find something that othe... [ More ]

Reply #9

d1nnl2 — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:41:28 GMT

OMG, I Thank God I live in the USA, A Data Driven Country.

Playing ALL EVEN + 1359 faithfully in 2013 is a WINNER.

ALL EVEN, 15 wins, $1,532 Box Payout + 1359 , 5 wins, $1,471 = $3,003

Less Cost of Playing ALL EVEN + 1359 Daily (6 x .5 x 2 x 365) = $2,190

Net Profit = $815

Reply #8

d1nnl2 — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 14:18:03 GMT

I did an analysis of 2013 results in NJ Pick4 and found that playing ALL ODD or ALL EVEN patterns, is a loser if played faithfully for a year.

But it can be a potential money maker for casual players.

Add them to your Combo set and play them once in a while. Hey, you never know.

ALL EVEN, 0,2,4,6,8

0246, 3, $367

0248, 2, $208

0268, 6, $595

0468, 3, $263

2468, 1, $ 99

15 wins, $1,532 BOX Payout of $1,825 (cost of playing 5 BOX combinations @$.5 each for Midday/Eve... [ More ]

Reply #7

Lucky Loser — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:48:24 GMT

Honestly, you've answered a lot of your own questions here and I'll be back later to elaborate more.

L.L.

Reply #6

Lucky Loser — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:45:37 GMT

This is the most intelligent answer I've seen regarding the marketing, sale, and pumping up of lottery systems besides an answer I posted some time ago. Quite frankly, your first sentence is the key...anyone that's figured out what to do, how to do it, and, WHY to do it is keeping it on the tightest of leashes. There are many reasons for this, as well.

L.L.

Reply #5

Jonusl — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:12:17 GMT

I agree with you to a point.I have been playing and doing a workout,which i tweek and as i learn,for over 2 years,when i started i did as you say played about 30 numbers,all doubles,i only played doubles then.I would hit about every 2 weeks,sometimes a little more,and i would win 200 at a time,but i was spending lol 180 a week or 200.so best i would break even,but most of the time i was in the hole 200-300 bucks a month,I guess my problem was knowing WHEN to play,so i play 2 draws a day 6 days a... [ More ]

Reply #4

d1nnl2 — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:11:55 GMT

Thank You for asking this question. Its from moments of reflection that leads us to find answers which can make us better.

Consider this:

12/26/2013 Evening 4 2 0 8 2,743.50 114.00

12/26/2013 Midday 2 6 2 2 2,420.50 605.00

Preceding winner was 2622, ALL EVEN NUMBERS.

As a Pick4 Player, I ask Whats next?

Pattern Question 1 Question 2 Number Set

ALL EVEN Will pattern change ?

. Will pattern repeat ? Will there be a pair ?

. . Will there be no pairs

Reply #3

Pick3Masterer — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:48:17 GMT

That's true about what you're saying. It comes down to human nature. In my opinion, human nature tends to get in the way of both the truth and progress. This is ,exactly, why some games haven't ,officially, been cracked. Fortunately, for myself, human nature didn't get in the way. From the beginning, I allowed logic ,and common sense, to guide me. I was starting from scratch. My goal was to ,simply, figure it out. I wasn't ,so much, motivated by money. It was ,really ,more about the intellectual... [ More ]

Reply #2

RJOh — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:17:07 GMT

Systems created by those willing to do the research and acquire the knowledge to design them to work aren't sold or shared so little is known about them.

Systems sold or shared are designed just for that purpose, seldom work and are the ones most lottery players know and talk about.

It's not realistic to think someone is going to design a money maker and sell or share it. If it's being sold or shared then its creator is gaining more by doing that than he would by actually using it to win a... [ More ]

Reply #1

Wentworth — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:44:14 GMT

I would say that could be true... in my opinion we are looking for shortcuts for a number of reasons. First its human nature to take the path of least resistence... secondly, none of us have the $$ or persistence to play

a ton of numbers at a time. Some post like Fifty sets of numbers on here and say now just play all these fifty

sets for three days at a buck a set... could be a winner in there someplace...and so forth. So what do you reccomend? Playing that many numbers tends to be overwh... [ More ]

Why do so many systems fail?

Pick3Masterer — Fri, 27 Dec 2013 09:19:28 GMT

Now, there are some good Pick 3/4 systems out there. I've come across some of them myself. These ones employ logical ideas and have merit to them. However, too many systems ,including the good ones, have a fatal flaw ,in common, and is why they don't end up to really work.

So, what is this flaw? Simply put, they're based on looking for shortcuts. That is, they involve creative ,or clever, methods of narrowing the numbers down to a ,select, few so players may hit big if they win. However, in... [ More ]