Hitting the very next double System// by using ODDS

Reply #49

winsumloosesum — Sat, 29 Mar 2014 00:00:58 GMT

I updated the Doubles.xlsm and added a tab that calculates the Doubles History from the last 365 draws.

Use the same download link.

Reply #48

winsumloosesum — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 23:59:15 GMT

Pennsylvania Combined Draws

Total Draws = 365

Last Double = 499

There were a total of 90 Doubles drawn - last 365 draws

Total of 55 doubles drawn out that did NOT have any repeat digit from the previous double drawn

Reply #47

grwurston — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:36:07 GMT

Getting back on topic... When playing P3 dbls use All even, odd, low or high as your combo. They hit 95 out of 131 on mid

and 86 out of 129 on eve going back to 1/1/2013 in Md. That's 72.5% and 66.6% respectively. Your state may vary.

When you watch the #'s you increase your odds of hitting. Observe

Reply #46

Pildriver — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 02:15:47 GMT

Wow...we got 644 here in Fla..

My thoughts ate to play mate, and or the single digit to become the double.

Nite call.

Pil

Reply #45

kreative1 — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:55:21 GMT

Yes I do and yes I am!

truce

lol

Reply #44

WIN D — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:45:30 GMT

LOL ...close enough counts if we don't use stats I guess.

Reply #43

kreative1 — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 01:31:14 GMT

wow I read that all wrong!

You meant it wont repeat from double to the very next double instead of week or two.

Do you really need a stat for that or common sense or nobrainer as madd dog put it.

btw if you are refering to the gender comment being snide, I was kidding..

I play fantasy football with a bunch of guys who draft only using stats and that's an ongoing banter with us..sorry I brought that here.

I understand what you are saying finally and thanks for the tip about turnin... [ More ]

Reply #42

WIN D — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 00:06:13 GMT

Kreative1..... you say you like to banter ? .....and you take things the wrong way ? .....and you say that you get rubbed the wrong way.

Your stats for PA that you actually provided up there...... Well, even they .... rub you the wrong way ......your own stats?... LOL

They(your own stats) absolutely prove the points in the original post here. I let your first snide post go by but now......

If you go from double to double.... you showed 32 doubles total for both games combined... [ More ]

Reply #41

kreative1 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 19:35:18 GMT

lol

I just felt like bantering and maybe I took some statements wrong but some rubbed me the wrong way especially when posted in the system forum

All ways of looking at the lottery are a help

Thanks for the excel sheets

I'll check it out

Reply #40

winsumloosesum — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 18:30:22 GMT

kreative,

I think you need to re-read WinD's thread from the beginning.

You might also want to split the Pennsylvania game into 2 games.

Reply #39

winsumloosesum — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:40:41 GMT

Filtered down to 19 sets using Sums 12 through 18 and zero hits in last 365 draws

Mostly Odd Picks (19) - From March 27 Midday draw to April 1 evening draw (10 Block drawing)

099,277,336,338,525

545,552,556,558,565

585,633,655,747,770

772,774,833,990

Reply #38

winsumloosesum — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:36:30 GMT

Pennsylvania Combined Draws:

10 Block Hits.

AE = All Even Doubles (60 Sets)

AO = All Odd Doubles (60 Sets)

ME = Mostly Even Doubles (75 Sets)

MO = Mostly Odd Doubles (75 Sets)

Last 70 draws a Mostly Odd double has hit at least once in the last 7 of 8 10 block draws.

Looking for the trend of a Mostly Odd double for the next 10 drawings 3/28/2014 - 4/1/2014 (Midday Evening Draws

Reply #37

Ilovecash3 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:17:33 GMT

Well play repeats and win

Reply #36

kreative1 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 14:12:14 GMT

hmmm

the more I look at it I have come to the conclusion that PA is CROOKED lol

not only do the doubles repeat but so do the 3 digits more then normal...

Reply #35

kreative1 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:50:42 GMT

I already showed march

PA jan and feb

repeat doubles in red for each month, non repeat in blue but ended up repeating in feb and mar

3 months in and so far the stats are not the best bet, like I said before overall maybe but I wouldn't bet on it weekly or monthly..not in PA

Mon

Tue

Wed

Thu

Fri

Sat

1

606

184

2

775

803

3

893

895

4

581

212

5

636

873

6

582

360

7

959

667

8

289

06... [ More ]

Reply #34

MADDOG10 — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 13:25:23 GMT

The following table and figures summarize the foregoing facts and the probability of winning with any order arrangement of 3-digit games.

Group name and aliases How many 3-dig Numbers fall into this group How many distinct members of the group odds of winning with a number in the group Probability of a number drawn to be in the group

Non-repeat (6-way) 720 120 1:167 72%

One-repeat (3-way) (Doubles) 270 90 1:333 27%

Triples 10 10 1:1000

1%

Now, what Win_D

Reply #33

winsumloosesum — Thu, 27 Mar 2014 12:58:24 GMT

Download link to folder containing 2 Excel files for the Doubles calculations:

https://app.box.com/s/uhdkgwn5j5gglhcoa438

1. Create a new folder and place bothe Excel files into the folder

For Excel versions 2007, 2010, 2013

2. Open the P3StateDraws.xlsm file first

3. Click File Open then browse to the 2nd Excel file and open the Doubles.xlsm Excel file

I'll explain how to use the Doubles Excel file later today.

Reply #32

grwurston — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 02:36:33 GMT

I'm back. Had to get some zzz's before that 5 am wakeup. lol The key to picking dbls is knowing the indicator, ie whats the

dbl going to be. The next dbl is in the last dbl. So easy, look at the last dbl. Not the dbl itself, but the other 2 #'s. Go 1 up

1 down from each. Those 4#'s (at the most) are the dbl #'s to play. Happens a little over half the time. You need to track

this.

Why? Because, when the next dbl is NOT coming from the LAST dbl, it will come from the dbl that is... [ More ]

Reply #31

winsumloosesum — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 02:28:07 GMT

BTW The chart is Georgia Pick 3 combined draws. Last draw Monday evening 3/24/2014

Reply #30

WIN D — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 02:22:35 GMT

Thanks Steve.... you are always around to help flesh out these different post with interesting stats and charts for folks. Good ones.

Reply #29

winsumloosesum — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 01:30:12 GMT

Doubles List download link:

https://app.box.com/s/xmqu6n96etqvvc4luu0p

60 All Even

60 All Odd

75 Mostly Even

75 Mostly Odd

Reply #28

winsumloosesum — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 01:25:54 GMT

Reply #27

cuteban25 — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:27:26 GMT

Thank you ,very much Mister.........NEVER TRY TO UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL TALENTS.BECAUSE ,THEY UNDERSTAND,YOU ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THEIR EGO........no intended to hurt anybody

Reply #26

SergeM — Wed, 26 Mar 2014 00:01:49 GMT

I met Vladimir Putin once or twice in the street. He looked like a businessman, those don't do pick 3 I think.

Reply #25

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 23:25:24 GMT

LOL......OK Serge I can tell your time zone there is several hours in front of our Bars in the US. and Happy Hour has come and gone.

Remember Good Belgian Beer and Pick-3 don't go together so much. LOL

I did see Obama speaking somewhere near your homeland today and calling Putin ...a big meany etc. That's the newest new beginning. Now he's going to put the Russians on ...Double Secret Probation. LOL That should scare those rascals out of Ukraine.

Reply #24

SergeM — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:49:58 GMT

Some document. For the poster with the girls, they have hidden it. I don't think it was photoshopped.

Reply #23

SergeM — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 22:27:25 GMT

Let me refine your American education with some beer soaked Belgian statistics. I think that my grand father was born around 1902, but can't tell you if it was a hot summer or cold winter. Twelve years later it became rough. Those days they eventually had no pick 3 and the Germans probably didn't introduce that game. Around 1929 the Congo lottery had a nice introduction with nice half naked black bunnies, probably virgins, as if it was to the honor of some suicide tourist, mean beer terrorist, o... [ More ]

Reply #22

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 20:14:51 GMT

OK....Here ya go.

Math ...Odds and probability are really good to have at your elbow when playing with NUMBERS. Yes there is always ART in winning at these games too. But ...but you should know your stats that's for sure.

Folks know not to play Triples all the time right? Because we know at least one bit of odds .....they only hit on average of 3.6 times per 365.....or ....1% of the time. Of course... there's always gonna be someone that had a Grandfather that had 27 trips in a single Mon... [ More ]

Reply #21

SergeM — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 19:22:50 GMT

Dear Windy

All that I found in the mathematics was that it doesn't pay unless you win.

Even if pick 3 was a fair game, paying 1000 dollies for a straight combination, you still can loose.

Now I have no clue about how you want to apply mathematics to beat this highly unfair game.

Did you try kicking Pattel in the nuts and running with his cash? That might be easier.

Kindly yours

Serge

Reply #20

kreative1 — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 18:17:31 GMT

In a years time yes your odds are right

But the lottery is daily and that's where the odds will bite you, unless you wait until the end of the year and then go with the odds and even then it's not a given..

I think everyone has a different way of looking at how to play..but I have to say this is based on math and not what I would call a system

I was going to say it's a gender thing but since I don't know yours I can't say that ...but the ODDS are you are a man

Reply #19

Tialuvslotto — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:31:58 GMT

Oops! No, other way around. 75% of the time your double digit would not have hit in the last 3 doubles drawn.

Reply #18

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:29:42 GMT

Hello Serge !

Sure you know that I can do it ......and I know that you can show it mathematically too. Your education was in Europe right? LOL

Come on my friend ......it will look better coming from you. LOL

Reply #17

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:25:24 GMT

Hi kreative1...... I haven't kept up with PA stats on doubles since Jan this year .

.....but last year from Jan 1 2013 until Jan 2014 ........ Pa. Eve had97 doubles during the year and thats pretty close to the math expectation of 99.

Of those 99 doubles...only 38 were repeats from the last double.Repeats are the minority for the year.

Of the 88 doubles Midday Pa. got during Jan to Jan...... only 33 of them were repeats. So....looks like better than 60+ % were safe plays right... [ More ]

Reply #16

SergeM — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:00:28 GMT

Can you prove that mathematically se or Don Windee

Reply #15

kreative1 — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 16:01:21 GMT

not in PA, I wish it were true..I checked back and if anything it brings back the same double

Midday Evening Midday Evening

Mon, Mar 24, 2014 499 526 7235 7119

Sun, Mar 23, 2014 119 982 5630 4412

Sat, Mar 22, 2014 819 101 9635 9481

Fri, Mar 21, 2014 839 672 5482 5188

Thu, Mar 20, 2014 095 128 6905 8585

Wed, Mar 19, 2014 415 406 4922 7234

Tue, Mar 18, 2014 026 648 2614 4874

Mon, Mar 17, 2014 791 142 4264 5455

Sun, Mar 16, 2014 199 049 6656 3197

Reply #14

LottoBux — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:27:02 GMT

In fact, 25% of the time you would be safe eliminating the last 3 double digits.

So Does This Mean That 75% Of The Time, You Would Not Be Safe In Eliminating The Last 3 Double Digits?

Not Much Advantage There.

Reply #13

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:30:19 GMT

I am also a big fan of anyone that post Pick 3 stats Tiauvslotto !

Love that Pick 3 doubles input ...and any confirmations are really helpful. It builds confidence and that's a big plus in this game. Collecting the stats Waiting and then finding gaps like these are great. Those gaps are our big chance to level out those crummy odds every now and then. Keep em' coming.

So, Thank you very much.

Reply #12

Tialuvslotto — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 12:57:34 GMT

Hi WIN D,

Just have to say, I am a HUGE fan (no, that doesn't mean I weigh 350 lbs, LOL)!

I just did an in-depth study of doubles because it seems that one should be able to exploit the fact that almost 60% of doubles follow another double in the next 3 draws. (I blend midday and evening, but I don't think it makes a difference).

Anyway, I counted back from DOUBLE to DOUBLE to find the number of doubles that skipped between a double digit. For example, 113, I would count back, only coun... [ More ]

Reply #11

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 05:34:52 GMT

Oh no ...what state? ..what double ..how? ... ...guess he left.

Now I guess we won't know how to make those P-4 doubles easier to hit than those in P-3.

That woulda' been great. Those Pick 4 doubles pay so much more too.

Oh well, back to the grinding out the odds of those P-3 doubles post again ...

Reply #10

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 05:10:12 GMT

Before ya go ...... what does that mean. Could you explain how that will work? Is that for all Pick 4 doubles ....Thanks

Reply #9

grwurston — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 05:05:57 GMT

The next dbl will come from the last dbl. Just observe. Good night.

Reply #8

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 04:46:07 GMT

Still impressed with that Pick 4 doubles being ........ easier post of yours.

Just don't understand how that can happen in general ....or on average on such a hard game . Kinda makes me want to have a contest or something so I could see it out loud for myself. LOL .....or just show the odds or math of it.......that would be good.

Reply #7

grwurston — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 04:36:26 GMT

Just my observation, but about 2/3 of the time the double will be the lowest or highest # in the set. About 45% of the time

the dbl will be part of a consecutive pair. About 20-25% of the time there will be a consecutive pair, that is not consecutive

to the dbl. About 7% of the time there is a 3 consecutive # series in the set. Your state may vary... All just observations.

Reply #6

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 04:05:19 GMT

Wow....... that's interesting. Easier ? Gosh... 10,000 numbers.

Usually they say the more numbers the worse the odds.......but you say they are indeed easier?

You must have already had a really good understanding and success with those Pick 4 doubles to think of them as easy. Impressive for sure.

So anyway..... glad I could answer your question about your P-4 doubles having different Odds and being so different than P-3.

Reply #5

sully16 — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:59:21 GMT

Thanks

Reply #4

grwurston — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:55:24 GMT

I like the P4 DBL's myself. They're easier.

Reply #3

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:43:36 GMT

What's a Pick 4? LOL

Nope....just your good old Pick 3 doubles.

Reply #2

helpmewin — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:42:07 GMT

Are These robie ideas

Reply #1

grwurston — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:38:02 GMT

Does this pertain to P3 or P4 or both? Thanks.

Hitting the very next double System// by using ODDS

WIN D — Tue, 25 Mar 2014 03:07:42 GMT

Win many times more ..........playing for the NEXT Double....... by not using ANY Digits from the last double.

Don't think....just take my word for it. LOL

Fact:

* You will always have a better shot at hitting the NEXT Double by not playing any digits from the last double .

Actually, you will have a 64% better chance at a hit.

Play the Odds ...you will win more in the long run.