I think the systems or methods for predicts the lottery is illusion.

Reply #109

diggindeeep — Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:35:24 GMT

I use a method of predicting numbers and I get the correct numbers often! It may not be the numbers in my state, but somewhere the numbers I predict, from the method that I use, are falling SOMEWHERE...it's called being in the right place at the right time.

Reply #108

anubinareloaded — Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:04:42 GMT

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Oracle has development an DLL for use GPU to improve some calculations of transform (for example the modal clause).

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Reply #107

anubinareloaded — Fri, 19 Dec 2014 10:09:34 GMT

4 hours of data mining :

* History 200 draws.* Fields Frequency ( appearances , absences, relative frequency)* Fields binary relative frequency ( higher / lower than the average relative theoretical mean o)* Study of the above points, ball number by number of extraction position , totalized ...* Pattern size up to 20 characters .This work is titanic, and because only observed direct information ...There indirect information obtained complement of data , for example :EuroMillions has 50 balls

Reply #106

anubinareloaded — Fri, 19 Dec 2014 09:56:32 GMT

hello,The administrator blocked my old account by putting links to spreadsheet programs .Total Combinations ( main numbers ) regardless of the order of extraction : 2,118,760 - (~200MB)Total Combinations ( main numbers ) in the order of extraction hype: 254,251,200 - (~20GB)

Statistical 90 bytes for each of the combinations used information . Varies by historic use ( within the last 100 and 200 draws) .

I Using PL / SQL , materialized views, hierarchical , modal , regressions ... It i... [ More ]

Reply #105

Stack47 — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 21:19:52 GMT

I started making Texas and Georgia All or Nothing predictions over a year ago and my average is about the same as probability. For anybody playing the game with real money, I only had one 11 number match and one 1 number match out of 44,400 picks.

Reply #104

RJOh — Wed, 17 Dec 2014 19:55:36 GMT

Not only for bragging rights but some members enjoy trying to predict the outcomes of random events and having their results confirmed by an independent source. For those who have a system they would like to share, predicting on the prediction board in a good way to show it off.

I'm not a catalog for those who have a successful system, you'll have to read their posts and do your own follow ups.

Reply #103

atoz — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:28:51 GMT

yes you are right then...i guess you would call it braggin rights if and when they do hit.

Do you know of any that really can make profit wise 2-5 thousand a month or lets say even 2 grand a month... do we have any body you know that is doing that....i am curious, not as to who they really are but the method that they are able to do it if its happening.

Reply #102

RJOh — Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:55:06 GMT

You shouldn't, no one predicts for the benefits of anyone other than themselves even if they say otherwise.

Reply #101

adobea78 — Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:06:37 GMT

Kansas

901-902-903-904-905-906-907-908-909-900-

912-913-914-915-916-917-918-919-910-911

923-924-925-926-927-928-929-920-921-922

934-935-936-937-938-939-930-931-932-933

945-946-947-948-949-940-941-942-943-944

956-957-958-959-950-951-952-953-954-955

967-968-969-960-961-962-963-964-965-966

978-979-970-971-972-973-974-975-976-977

989-980-981-982-983-984-985-986-987-988

990-991-992-993-994-995-996-997-998-999

601-602-603-604-605-606-607-608-609-600-

612-613-6... [ More ]

Reply #100

adobea78 — Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:45:49 GMT

Is all about the mindset, what is your end game? daily adrenaline fix or return on investment? Is not even about the number of picks, rather your bankroll and waging strategy, if I spend $1000 in 5 draws for a return of $500 profit, that's a huge ROI, but if you're the risk-averse type, the amount $1000 will scare you, is best not to play the game and save your money. Risk is not for the faint at heart !

Hint P3, all you need is to predict one digit for the next draws (5 draws max), filter wi... [ More ]

Reply #99

atoz — Mon, 15 Dec 2014 20:16:45 GMT

The predicitors are just waisting their time.... i really dont expect anything from them...

Reply #98

RJOh — Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:29:26 GMT

With overall odds of 1:50 or worst for having a winning combination what would you expect to see even if they picked their predictions using the same method every time

Reply #97

atoz — Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:18:15 GMT

well i havent seen anyone here really predict consistantly unless they post 100 plus numbers....heck and old blind sow can find an acorn every now and then. Predictions i dont care for....i would rather see the different methods they use to try and pick numbers. I do believe in trends and etc....but just have someone give me 100 numbers to play because the moon was late coming up....nope, not for me.

Reply #96

newtolottoagain — Mon, 15 Dec 2014 16:54:46 GMT

Somehow, I too, believe it's all illusions. Why? Because no one here can safely say they're profiting off the lottery using any system. If there was, everyone would be using it. But as it stands, it's all just a confidence game. So why do we bother? Because like I said, it gives you confidence to be in control of what you play. Is it sad? Yes. Is it foolish? No.

Reply #95

garyo1954 — Sun, 14 Dec 2014 23:27:50 GMT

My thoughts exactly. 20 gigs?

500 megs for 200 draws?

4 hours?

Sounds like somebody is overdoing it.

G

Reply #94

MrProgrammer — Sun, 14 Dec 2014 21:31:36 GMT

Great response, doodoohead

Reply #93

SergeM — Sun, 14 Dec 2014 21:18:34 GMT

20 GB

Reply #92

JKING — Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:01:37 GMT

Hi,

It will remain an illusion if you throw in the towel before you even try to solve it.

No effort, no solution.

Reply #91

anubina — Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:46:58 GMT

My basic system:

PC (800 ): CPU: AMD FX Octo-Core 2GHz (1 core for OS, 7 cores dedicated for multithreaded for lotto-computing) RAM: 16GB HD: 2TB VGA: AMD Geforce 5700

Software: Windows 7, 64bits (, I prefer this than the free Linux distribution) Oracle 11g Enterprise (free for particular user) Notepad++ (free) PL/SQL Developer 10 (216$, I prefer this than the free SQL Developer) Libreoffice (free) Subversion tortoise slisk svn (free) Web browser, poweshell or batch, cobian backup, immu... [ More ]

Reply #90

uprrman — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 00:15:03 GMT

i predict mine sometimes i'm right sometimes i'm wrong most of the time

Reply #89

PeerGynt — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 13:37:31 GMT

The CA D3 runs off an algorithm. This isn't theory: it's in their rules. As a math guy, you should know that means it does NOT run off a purely random method (you should know, in fact, that it isn't even possible: flipping coins and how a computer determines a random selection, is like comparing apples to apes): it follows internal RULES. Those rules can be exploited. That exploitation is what we call... strategy.

Reply #88

dr san — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:05:50 GMT

Hello, get, speaking on quantity of digits look at the example

49/6 of the digits 0,1,2 = gave 135 times together while

789 gave two times, why? Because the digits both initial and final

The group has 14 times together 0,1,2 7,8,9 and 5 have sometimes

Ie the 0,1,2 are 9 times more likely to give together

It is the number of times, and the sum of the probabilities dominates

75%, 80% (Pareto

Reply #87

dr san — Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:30:04 GMT

Hello, getreal720, lotteries, mathematically you can go up to a point, say,

75% 80% (Pareto law) the other 25%, 20% will be random, certain patterns will give you more

Because by having more combinations than others, the greatest number of combin oes exceeds the lowest,

Within the matrix, eg = 1,2,3,4,5,6, will give out fewer times than 01,15,23,36,45,59

Because of their sequence, as compared with previous results of the coin toss,

The toss of the coin has a single element has a d... [ More ]

Reply #86

GetReal720 — Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:12:33 GMT

This is something I've chimed in on before.....

I consider myself to be decently educated when it comes to mathematics, after all I am a 5 year

college graduate with a B.S. in Computer Science and a minor in mathematics. I know some of you

are more advanced then I am mathematically, my point is that I'm fairly intelligent when it comes to math.

But anyways, I am a very logically thinking person and I'm just going to offer my opinions here.

I feel that a system... [ More ]

Reply #85

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:59:35 GMT

GASMETERGUY

Not leaving LP just this topic, I just don't want to argue about which is better, system or luck.

It's so easy to see one of these topics and get drawn into posting.

I got better things to do, LOL.

RL

Reply #84

JonnyBgood07 — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 00:29:37 GMT

try telling that to folks who have been cashing out on these 'illusions

Reply #83

Stack47 — Sat, 18 Oct 2014 00:25:07 GMT

RL,

The only difference between posting picks on the board and in posts is accountability, but the bottom line is always how well the wager did and not how well it did had I played it. I seriously doubt the people posting 50 lines good for all states are playing them and don't think anyone must wager especially when challenged to prove it by the likes of Jimmy.

If we all had to bet and show our predictions winning with actually lottery tickets, all the challenge games, the prediction board... [ More ]

Reply #82

GASMETERGUY — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:57:04 GMT

The ideas presented in this thread are excellent food for thoughts . I'm sorry you are leaving. You have written many sagacious suggestions in the past and I had hoped you would find something in this thread which would add to the table. Our loss; not yours.

Reply #81

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:01:35 GMT

Hi all

I think people who start a post like this just want to argue, can't believe I even posted here.

Stupid me, I am out of here.

RL

Reply #80

RJOh — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:38:28 GMT

Members who post 50 different predictions per drawing are probably expecting most will be losers but I think they have more creditable bragging rights than those who just post Trust me,I always win .

Reply #79

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:55:12 GMT

Stack

A ticket not purchased can not win, the prediction board says nothing about real world stats.

Unless the posters are playing those lines, they don't mean anything. Just another type of

entertainment, IMHO. Posting a list of numbers without a investment is quite different than

putting the cash on the line. Jimbe challenged me to prove my claims, I started posting my

ticket scans and over the course of around 9 games I won over 5x my investment. I started

to post the next s... [ More ]

Reply #78

Stack47 — Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:58:47 GMT

With lotto games you either buy a QP and hope those numbers are drawn or choose your own numbers and hope they are drawn. The majority of predicting and most of the bragging on LP is done in the forums, but strangely enough they have no prediction statistics.

most of them are wrong anyway

Makes sense not to post predictions knowing you'll be wrong on all but a couple and maybe all of them. Now we know why they don't post their predictions on the Predictions Boards.

Reply #77

dr san — Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:17:31 GMT

Hello, it's amazing that when you try to close 100% in a lottery, ie If you catch 75% to 80% of the combinations, in a certain number of draws

Out the numbers in the 25% to 20% ie in the narrow range of the curve gauus

Reply #76

onlymoney — Wed, 15 Oct 2014 15:58:56 GMT

I already tried finding him, but to no avail.

Reply #75

RJOh — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:54:59 GMT

Any one can predict, a prediction doesn't have to be right as most of them are wrong anyway.

Reply #74

RJOh — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:50:59 GMT

His answer would probably be the same one you would give if asked the same question.

Reply #73

MillionsWanted — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 12:28:10 GMT

Why don't you write him an email or slowmail and ask how he do it

Reply #72

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 11:36:13 GMT

Professor

I am not really convinced prediction is possible, just not ready to give up on trying. I don t think

any system will ever produce a winning ticket on demand. What we are left with is playing as smart

as possible and hope for the best.

RL

Reply #71

onlymoney — Mon, 13 Oct 2014 23:19:31 GMT

Tell that to Peter St. Pierre who's been winning an average of 70 grand every year for over 6 years now, playing p-3 and p-4 in the New Hampshire lottery.

Reply #70

The Professor — Mon, 13 Oct 2014 19:12:16 GMT

Oh yes there is,

ask RL

Reply #69

RL-RANDOMLOGIC — Sun, 12 Oct 2014 16:14:43 GMT

This has been argued many times here at LP. IMHO there is no way to ever predict random consistently

but there are times when patterns repeat. On the other hand not all predictors are designed to just go

for JP prizes.

I am working on a tool designed to hit the second level prize. It's always possible that it could hit a JP

but that would be icing on the cake. There is only one line in the matrix that will be drawn for the top

level prize but many second level prizes exist within... [ More ]

Reply #68

SergeM — Sun, 12 Oct 2014 16:10:59 GMT

I just play 1 or 2 up to 5 combinations. You can see how I play in the other thread. Some of the explanations are there. - What do you mean by backing talk with money? - I prepared two pick 6's for keno for Monday, inspired by mathematics. If correct the bet is paid or pays up to 200. - I don't know what you wanted to read. Playing for 20 to 50 euros is not possible with my budget.

I just made a 3 if 7 wheel for the local pick 6 lotto with 6 combinations. If 7 are in 19 then the guarantee is... [ More ]

Reply #67

RJOh — Sun, 12 Oct 2014 15:33:16 GMT

Does this means you'll just be talking about playing lottery and not actually playing? In other words not backing your talk with your money

Reply #66

SergeM — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:11:13 GMT

I am picking mathematics up again, from a as Anfang to z as Zipper.

If you have cash to play, you can buy tickets. My money goes to my household, the lottery can wait.

Reply #65

RJOh — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 16:40:12 GMT

We know someone won the MegaMillions jackpots before and it will surely happen again.

Reply #64

dr san — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:12:23 GMT

what happened before (small geometric patterns), in the past sweepstakes

will happen again, the problem is to know when! How often will

repetitions of patterns !! Ie repetitions and intervals and the average delays

may help in predictions

Reply #63

dr san — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:57:34 GMT

The harsh reality is that every lottery game, is a game in itself, and thus not influenced any of the previous games and does not affect in any way the future games. How can we have a reference or basis for setting us

Reply #62

dr san — Fri, 03 Oct 2014 21:20:21 GMT

The Mayans watched the stars in their mathematical path (cycles) and predicted (see before) Eclipses, to the wise ..

Reply #61

SergeM — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 22:04:32 GMT

Systems or methods, have you tried positional mixing of numbers for lottery games other than pick 3 and pick 4? Copying a binary pick 3 wheel, you can do the same with lotto and alike. You could also follow the same techniques. See the post from the pick 3 soft pro program by Paurths. Most of LP members seem to go for pick 3 and pick 4.

Reply #60

febausa — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 21:35:51 GMT

Thank you very much. I'm reading the thesis, this very interesting

Reply #59

febausa — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 15:29:23 GMT

Please, recommend me: article and study about prediction in lottery.

Reply #58

Scratch$ — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:43:44 GMT

Can you point us to anybody on this site who is frequently hitting big winners using the particular system they advocate? I'm not interested in unsubstantiated claims - please point me to official state lottery websites documenting the wins.

Thanks

Reply #57

febausa — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 19:46:25 GMT

Very good comment.

I don't find a real prediction methods for lottery, until now; I think the frequentist method, is maybe the most reasonable.

I appreciate comment about the prediction number and methods for selection numbers in lottery.

Thank you,

Reply #56

febausa — Sat, 27 Sep 2014 17:49:55 GMT

Very good comment.

I like a little lottery player, have not found a real prediction in these methods. Until now, I think the frequentist method, is maybe the most reasonable. Please, comment about the prediction number and methods for selection numbers in lottery.

Reply #55

garyo1954 — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:51:54 GMT

Translation: The majority of systems in the Systems forum have nothing to do with stats and are not based on any fact. Stats are boring. Agreed.

Reply #54

Stack47 — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 22:07:04 GMT

The caveat to this, though, is ironic in that it actually can be done with an extremely hefty amount of money, time, and the tedious efforts of preparing all the tickets. It can be done and a former poster here by the name of Ronnie316 actually proved it. I give credit where it's due.

The minimum bet using 28 MM numbers was almost $5000 per drawing and more likely $10,000 for the profits to cover the cost of play. We can't expect the expect the average $5 a week LP member to comprehend that... [ More ]

Reply #53

destinycreation — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 17:27:50 GMT

You sound very Foolish, to make such a statement !!! Do some research on this site first

Reply #52

SergeM — Thu, 28 Aug 2014 18:29:56 GMT

It pretty much is normal distribution for all of the stuff. Secundo, if the deviation is getting bigger, the mathematician will note that the deviation is bigger. No consequence, capice

Reply #51

adobea78 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 17:37:45 GMT

P4 CAL

Draw 5382 Sum 18(univariate) Periodic sums(multivariate) 20,15,13,19,10 data from multivariate

6491-1068-3172-7453-4105 filter 5382 6491-106x-x17x-74xx-410x filter 0906 x4x1-1xxx-x17x-74xx-41xx positional string 17441417 drive 1,7 174x-171x-177-744x-741-711-747 hit 0744

draw 0086 14 periodic sums 21,13,22,11,22 Data 8139-5710-9238-8120-9508--frequent sum 22 for data 9238,9508 is example prediction points under Freqentist framework( see hit 9843)

Data 8139-5710-9238-8120

Reply #50

adobea78 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:23:25 GMT

Google 'Prediction of Recurrent Events' by Marc Fredette, is a good read, you can skip the abstract thesis and formulas , focus on concepts behind those formulas. Take your time on these topics:

1.Point Predictor and Prediction Interval

2.Prediction Interval Under Frequentist Framework

3 Prior And Posterior distribution under Bayesian Framework

4 Bayesian vs Frequentist

Good Luck

Reply #49

adobea78 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:46:53 GMT

Read frequentist approach to random events, is simple and straight forward, see workout illustration

Assumption univariate to multivariate by concept of RECURRENCE(Parameter can be digits, sum, roots).I chose sum as parameter to pinpoint other recurring sums which comes with a data(PICKS)

CAL

rawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4

Midday Evening Midday Evening

Tue, Aug 26, 2014 8-0-5 9-7-3 4-3-1-3

Mon, Aug 25, 2014 7-5-4 9-1-5 0-7-4-4

Sun, Aug 24, 2014 2-7-0 5-4-0 3-6-8-5

S... [ More ]

Reply #48

Tialuvslotto — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:22:01 GMT

Adobea,

I am an enthusiastic supporter of the probability distribution, but I am always open to learning new ways of understanding. I think its like trying to geographically locate a signal -- 1 input - no chance, 2 inputs - maybe, 3 inputs - gotcha with triangulation!

However, I have so far been unable to stretch my brain to comprehend your Frequentist ideas. Could you possibly refer me to something very basic that you have written, or another source of introductory information?

Most a... [ More ]

Reply #47

GASMETERGUY — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:59:42 GMT

Uhhh, yeah, what he said.

Reply #46

adobea78 — Wed, 27 Aug 2014 02:22:18 GMT

Univariate to multivariate concept, a raw untainted data is the matrix of the game---forward-testing a concept needs assumptions. Bayesians needs priors to adjust probabilities, where the Frequentist says hell with priors and probabilities

Reply #45

SergeM — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:39:05 GMT

I am sorry to disappoint you for the chances, but those don't change. If you have like 490 combinations, and you play them winning, you have won 10 dollars net. For any selection of combinations you have two results, true or false, with the next drawing. Put it 1 or 0 score for me. Boolean is just good for if(true){;}else{;}. The payout is low, you only get 500, this isn't roulette where when you play half of the combinations you get a 1 to 1 payout. If you can determine if it is your group or n... [ More ]

Reply #44

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 23:29:49 GMT

A version of what you suggest is already in place. Check out the prediction board. The information will tell you who is hot and who is not.

Reply #43

atoz — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:26:49 GMT

I agree with you totally Samgirl.....good idea on a real contest for prediction too

Reply #42

samgirl280 — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:17:25 GMT

Let me add.

I think it was all base on studying the rotations of the Results and finding a flaw

there are manly to choose from and a whole lot to try,

Well in all if you truly follow someone's predictions and win then yours Lucky

to have shared a piece of an Alternate Reality with the predictor,all because

of the Link in the Fulfillment of destiny in respect to the Matter,

But in All

If only the Administrator's of this Lottery Post would hold a real Systems Competition... [ More ]

Reply #41

dr san — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:11:56 GMT

hello correct

patterns

L=0,1,2

K=3,4,5

O=6,7

1=8,9

EX= 578 PATTERN= POSITONS =LO1

Reply #40

atoz — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:54:13 GMT

Well I have to agree with the author of this thread about the predictors on this forum. Heck anyone can pick 50/100 numbers and hit one every once in a while. So i just dont pay any attention to the predictors....it would cost to much to do so...I do like libra Dave , he doesnt have many to choose from and you can possible work it into the state you play. I have won on his but thats the only one that i have on this forum...... but what i do pay attention to is the different theory's of how to pi... [ More ]

Reply #39

dr san — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:46:24 GMT

as we have four quadrants in the pick 3 and are drawn three digits is logical that one quadrant in each position had been out in the poir posssibilidades, but if the 2nd position and 3rd position ???

as a standard of the 1st position can be calculated probabilistically with the second or third position of the 2nd and 3rd position as you can do this calculation ??

which the probabilities of leaving in three positions in the same pattern

Reply #38

dr san — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:36:14 GMT

Hello, we can divide the pick 3 of 4 parts in each of the three positions of the digits

0.9

1 = L = 0,1,2

2 = K = 3,4,5

3 = O = 6,7,8

4 = 1 = 8,9

We have four quadrants within the limits 0-9 of each position, third position in total are all we have that are 4x4x4 = 64 patterns, !!!! ai within the standard three-digit or this is not, but we have the condition to hit the double digits, with the REFERENCE the last sorteiom not playing the same three patterns of each position

co... [ More ]

Reply #37

helpmewin — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:29:03 GMT

Reply #36

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 04:55:17 GMT

If we keep this up, Todd is going to move us to the system forum.

Reply #35

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 04:54:26 GMT

I never really understood pairs, especially in the P3 game. If you pick one pair, you still have that third number to ascertain. While there are only 10 possibilities of that third number one could play all ten. But how to go about picking the pair has never been fully explained to my satisfaction.

Reply #34

PeerGynt — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 03:22:52 GMT

Nah: I was working out a width formula for straights, but it was getting pretty lame-brained, for a non-math major. Lemme work on it some more.

Reply #33

PeerGynt — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:50:07 GMT

Has anyone here considered the spread between numbers? Making charts based on this? Forgive me if I'm covering old territory here (I'm fairly new), but .

Take all available digits:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Now, every singles play (we'll concentrate on) will have a spread measurement for each digit. So, an example being 580, you'd do this:

First, turn it into a box, lowest to highest: 058

Next, get the width of each number: 0 = 0/4 5 = 4/2 8 = 2/1

This is the distance between one end... [ More ]

Reply #32

PeerGynt — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:39:42 GMT

You know, Gasmeterguy, I was not exactly following you on this at first... I assumed the following of sections was implied... until you came up with the idea of seeing what sections usually follow other sections. Now there's something I'd not thought of before, the follow-up. Or, vary it, or rather seek out whatever patterns are there to be seen as it is.

Another variation on this theme is of course to simply track pairs - there's only 45 available pairs; each pair has 10 follow-ons including... [ More ]

Reply #31

GASMETERGUY — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:07:09 GMT

I had an epiphany coming back from rehab (I am a recovering chocoholic. I am up to 34 minutes now and counting) and, yes, the epiphany hurt.

Instead of 4 quadrants, make it 20 with 50 random combinations in each section. Then track not the numbers but the sections. Would, say, section 3 be followed by section 17? What might the section numbers and their followers look like? If, after due diligence and backtesting, one were to discover that section 3 is followed by section 17 almost 75% of the... [ More ]

Reply #30

CARBOB — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:47:46 GMT

I thought you would never ask....

these are the boxes mostly high, mostly low, mostly odd, mostly even

015

016

017

018

019

025

027

029

035

036

037

038

039

045

047

049

056

057

058

059

067

069

078

079

089

125

126

127

128

129

136

138

145

146

147

148

149

156

158

167

168

169

178

189... [ More ]

Reply #29

SergeM — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:19:54 GMT

I never heard of single combos . What is that? What is it for

Reply #28

CARBOB — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:37:16 GMT

I'm throwing this in the ring, looking for feedback. There is a filter known as Clean Numbers, 492 single combos. In Fl Eve, they hit 50% of the time. Any suggestions on the best way to play these

Reply #27

PeerGynt — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:26:46 GMT

All of this ordering of chaos is fraught with unseen perils. Here's an imperfect analogy .

Imagine a computer that randomly generates a number, but you don't know what it is. Neither do a set of players. They play with chips on a blank board, putting their chips in different locations. Some win depending on the unknown computer results, many lose. People start learning about places on this blank board to put their chips: in this area, that area. Sometimes here works better, but sometimes over... [ More ]

Reply #26

SergeM — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:03:20 GMT

The idea is as old as the history of games. If you want to calculate any quarter, you need for just one any quarter C(1000,250). I am not even finishing the mathematical algorithm! One quarter with 4,8228E+242 possible compositions of numbers. Mathematics is the shortcut, but you cannot produce the list. Going deeper into simulations, you might need a super computer that might exist in how many years? Finally knowing everything, random combined to the lower payouts would bite off a piece of your... [ More ]

Reply #25

SergeM — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:50:44 GMT

Background or not, random combined to 50% payout, I think that you cannot keep up financially after losses. To my thinking the payout is just lowered to the point that you cannot win. If you choose randomly or if you pick my picks, both have their chance. If you estimate that I make more chances than randomly picked numbers, then thank you. I cannot test it, ten combinations is the limit, and other ideas like posting for a year doesn't work either.

The point above was that you can't go for th... [ More ]

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Lucky Loser — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:09:02 GMT

Your reasoning does have limited merit. If you're talking about the large JP-style games, then it is an illusion to believe that a system can accurately predict and produce a win. The caveat to this, though, is ironic in that it actually can be done with an extremely hefty amount of money, time, and the tedious efforts of preparing all the tickets. It can be done and a former poster here by the name of Ronnie316 actually proved it. I give credit where it's due.

There are other stories of how... [ More ]

Reply #23

garyo1954 — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:25:59 GMT

Naturally expectations say quadrant with the most sums between 8 and 20 would rise above the others. If any single quadrant has all sums between 12-15 the others would be dust during a normal cycle.

Of course you could prevent that by randomly placing sum sets 13, 14,15, 12, etc, in each quadrant but then you are bringing order to the chaos disrupting the randomness you are trying to achieve.

Reply #22

PeerGynt — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:13:27 GMT

I think it would depend on the concentration of digits in which particular quadrant appeared. The game (in CA at least) works off an algorithm that (I believe) is designed, in part, to create both overrepresented digits and outliers which would result in the sections of some pools being overrepped, and others rarely arising.

When you divide the pool into orderly sets based on digits, you discover both these long outliers, and the rapid-fires. An intelligence doesn't emerge, but something at p... [ More ]

Reply #21

garyo1954 — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:11:59 GMT

That's an excellent improvement. Kudos. It would be an interesting study.

Reply #20

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:43:10 GMT

This post gave me two thoughts. First, we need some info, idea, facts to go from dependent to independent. Just what those parameters might be is another matter.

As for quadrant, why not make the population of each quadrant random? Each quadrant is populated with 250 random combinations. After the initial population, each quadrant is set in stone and only the quadrant is tracked. Would one quadrant hit more often than any other? I don't know but such information would be nice to know.... [ More ]

Reply #19

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:36:36 GMT

Tialuvslotto, you are right. Statistics might be a clue to converting background independent to background dependent. Now the trick will be to discover the correct statistics and putting them into a profitable order. I had not thought of doing that. Thanks for the tip.

Reply #18

garyo1954 — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:51:26 GMT

Technically that wouldn't be background independent since you have some info, idea, facts, based on your knowledge of the game to implement this plan.

If you want to make it random. blindfold someone and let them throw darts at the quadrants. And don't let them know what you are doing. That prevents any bias toward an individual quadrant.

Reply #17

Tialuvslotto — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:22:54 GMT

I think background independent would have to involve discoveries about the nature of randomness itself, and the development of rules that could be applied in any situation involving randomness including, but not limited to, lotteries.

Any prediction that launches off the statistics of a specific game (the probability of any one of 250 Pick 3 combinations hitting within 9 games is 95%) would have to be considered background dependent .

Reply #16

GASMETERGUY — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:42:28 GMT

Dividing the pool into quadrants is one way of establishing a fixed reference point. Nothing wrong with that kind of thinking.

Reply #15

SergeM — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:00:17 GMT

Indeed, you can't choose and play 50% of the combinations,

because with a win you risked 500 and you win back your 500.

So, you opted for playing a quarter of all combinations (1000/4=250).

You may feel more comfortable by playing after none of your 250 straight combinations came up for eight times,

but are you prepared to double the bet every time after that your quarter does not come up?

And do you realize the consequences?

Let's say that your randomly chosen quarter, 250 num... [ More ]

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garyo1954 — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:44:05 GMT

lol i understood your saying that but make it make sense.

background independent as you describe it is pulling something out of thin air.

background dependent is using the past as a basis for the future.

can't see how you can intermingle the two.

you either work with what you have, or you might as well buy quick picks.

Reply #13

PeerGynt — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 22:25:55 GMT

So, easy. Doing an independent /past-data-non-inclusive method, we do this (California D3):

1) Divide the pool of 1000 numbers into fourths (quadrants).

2) Fill out your fourth as all Straights.

3) Don't play, but wait until your quadrant has been out for eight times in a row, i.e., fully twice around the board. This is to play it safe, and it may take a while to get there (you may also want to play it safer, and increase the amount of plays you have to wait; or, if you feel risky, wait... [ More ]

Reply #12

GASMETERGUY — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 20:40:54 GMT

Allow me to clarify. Using past draws means we are using background dependent results to determine our algorithm. Once we have determined our algorithm, we apply it to future draws. The future draws are background independent.

Reply #11

garyo1954 — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 18:57:21 GMT

Quite a confusing idea.

First I read that people who use algorithms based on background dependence are met with background independent results.

Now reading we need something that is background independent.

Don't have an answer to that. Not even sure there is an answer.

Reply #10

GASMETERGUY — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 18:01:48 GMT

I should have added this: Past draws can predict the future. It's all we have to analyze so we got with what we have. But past draws are background dependent. What is needed is something that is background independent. There is a difference.