Why are the Systems failing?

Reply #37

tj47 — Mon, 08 Dec 2014 05:44:05 GMT

Even in the smaller games pick 3 and 4 if you had a system that could hit consistently for straight hits each retailer is tracked daily for the amount of winning tickets sold so if lottery headquarters notices a store or several stores with an unusual amount of winning tickets being sold there to me this would raise flags.

I believe it would be wise to jump around to different retailers if you had such a system that hit often, and just think about the retailers seeing you come in on a regular... [ More ]

Reply #36

Lucky Loser — Mon, 08 Dec 2014 03:13:16 GMT

Yes, you are correct. They weren't actually making millions but, I was going by what the state had to pay out in general. Their profits were in the hundreds of thousands and I believe that you and I have discussed how this is possible...IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO IMPLEMENT IT AT THE RIGHT TIME. Timing is every thing, in my personal opinion, along with patience and discipline which I've said many times. Obviously, these folks were on the same page and had the funds to do it. Honestly, I feel that t... [ More ]

Reply #35

RJOh — Sun, 07 Dec 2014 22:37:52 GMT

Not necessarily and I say this for one main reason...the amount of money being spent and prize being won. Of course, any state would put limits and/or shut down a person or people that have mastered how to profit MILLIONS per shot of playing.

The thing is this couple wasn't making millions, just making a profit worthy of the time and money they spent. Eve when a player beat the odds by 500%, the payouts are designed such that he loses money. For example in a local game Ohio Classic Lotto the... [ More ]

Reply #34

Lucky Loser — Sun, 07 Dec 2014 19:43:31 GMT

they would shut it down because other players would be pissed. Just look at what happened in Massachusetts when it became known a Michigan couple were coming to their state regularly to spend $300K playing their WindFall game when it rolled back and making a profit.

Not necessarily and I say this for one main reason...the amount of money being spent and prize being won. Of course, any state would put limits and/or shut down a person or people that have mastered how to profit MILLIONS per shot... [ More ]

Reply #33

Lucky Loser — Sun, 07 Dec 2014 19:00:13 GMT

The vast majority of systems fail because they suck !

Not so sure about them being 'suckey', but rather that they're being improperly implemented. Then, there are some who feel that 5-10 combos is suppose to get the job done with no effort what so ever...consistently.

The few who know what systems work on a somewhat regular basis ain't talkin'...you have to pull yourself up by your boot straps and tackle it yourself.

It's hard, but it's fair. No one's gonna just give up the goods on how... [ More ]

Reply #32

RJOh — Sun, 07 Dec 2014 18:52:53 GMT

That's true for any lottery game even the pick5's and 6's. Even if a lottery was making a profit and a few players could consistently make a profit playing one of their games, they would shut it down because other players would be pissed. Just look at what happened in Massachusetts when it became known a Michigan couple were coming to their state regularly to spend $300K playing their WindFall game when it rolled back and making a profit.

Even if someone knew how to beat a game, it would be f... [ More ]

Reply #31

Lucky Loser — Sun, 07 Dec 2014 18:37:46 GMT

If the pick 3 and 4 lottery could be beaten consistently it would be shut down as we all know.

True, only if 'too many' people were winning and it went viral so to speak. A small percentage of consistent winners spread abroad isn't going to affect anything because the number of losers still HEAVILY OUTWEIGHS that percentage of winners. It's all in the numbers and it's why anyone winning with consistency and making money isn't going to talk. You hit the nail on the head in sentence #2 and #3.... [ More ]

Reply #30

Pick3Guy — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 22:55:14 GMT

So, what is the significant of the digits in the summary? What are the cycles you're referring to

Reply #29

OhioDiva — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 22:05:24 GMT

Got it, thanks for the information and your positive reply.

Reply #28

adobea78 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:55:03 GMT

580-803-739-357 are base keys, the ideal to hit the next draw is not my strategy, you need to set a time frame couple with cost. I was just giving a clue for you to evolve, waging strategy and cost is personal. In my workout, I did use only a row to generate a base, is best to focus on one key, many keys will create problems.

Reply #27

OhioDiva — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:38:35 GMT

Happy Saturday,

How do you feel about doing 046 from last night to test the draw for today was 215. Any suggestions,

I did the 046 and I was way off. I got 580, 803, 739, and 357.

Any suggestions, let try to hit tonight.. 215 was today.

Reply #26

OhioDiva — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:21:28 GMT

thank you for your advice

Reply #25

RJOh — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 20:03:13 GMT

I think you should just focus on one game at a time.

Knowing a little about most game is nice if you are a casual player entertaining yourself but it takes time to learn all there is to know about a particular game and its drawings. Once someone discovers something unique about them that they think improves their odds of winning they aren't likely to share it until after they've won big or it proves to be of little value.

Reply #24

mmx1 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 15:22:44 GMT

I think I am getting it now after long time ...

There are two separate strategies you're talking about all the time:

strategy 3,5,8 or 2,9,7 (dates strategy, pair will repeat on dates ending by 3,5,8 or 2,9,7 respectively) strategy 6,4,0,1 (after getting one missing pair from this pattern play that one every drawing until you win, dates don't matter

Please correct if I am wrong.

Thanks

Reply #23

adobea78 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 15:21:52 GMT

Lets assume you want to wage str bets for 30 picks within a span of 7 days(day or eve).

day draws

331 124 12-14-24(x=0 thru 9) hits 145, +2 draws(cost $60, for $500 prize

801 004 00-04(20 picks) hits 046 +8 draws (cost 160, for $500)

145 459 45-49-59 hit 495 +3 (cost 90 for $500

630 713 71-73-13 pending prediction

740 853 85-83-53 pending

495 529 52-59-29 pending

166 477 47-77 pending

204 635 63-65-35 pending

Note your picks could be reduced by just the first digit

Reply #22

mmx1 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:35:39 GMT

DrMiracle

First example, for Dec 03 and 05 seems to a part of your strategy, but I don't understand 2nd one.

If pair 16 appeared on Dec 02, it someone should play missing pair 40 on dates ending by 2,9 an 7, right?

Why are you showing number 204 on Tue Dec 03 as part of your strategy (date ending by 3 is not from pattern 2,9,7)?

Are 3,5,8 and 2,9,7 separate patterns to follow or one pattern: 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 9

Reply #21

Pick3Guy — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 10:17:48 GMT

Well, that's interesting. Did you take notice ,of the fact, that the 3,5,8 pattern fits right in with the Fibonacci sequence of numbers? Although, the 2,9,7 pattern doesn't fit in with it. Still, it's something to think about. But, let's take a look.

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, ...

Reply #20

OhioDiva — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 04:51:23 GMT

Thank You

Reply #19

adobea78 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 03:45:15 GMT

This is a summary of different cycles of randomized P3 and P4 members, study it and used it for your picks.

6 7 8 0 3 1 4 5 9 2

4 3 2 6 9 1 0 7 5 8

7 9 1 6 3 4 0 8 2 5

9 7 4 3 0 8 6 5 1 2

2 6 3 5 7 4 9 1 0 8

7 1 2 4 8 6 0 5 9 3

OH workout

Drawing Date Pick 3 Pick 4

Midday Evening Midday Evening

Fri, Dec 5, 2014 0-4-6 2-1-5 7-5-4-1 9-6-7-3

Thu, Dec 4, 2014 0-1-8 4-6-4 8-9-0-6 0-2-0-3

Wed, Dec 3, 2014 2-0-4 4-6-4 7-4-2-2 7-2-3-8

Tu... [ More ]

Reply #18

OhioDiva — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 02:59:36 GMT

Thank you so much. I am so can't understand the chart. Can you please explain. Thanks so much for assisting. I appreciate your advice. But, please explain how to read the chart with the numbers, I can't understand how you got the other numbers.

Thanks,

O-H-I-O Diva

Reply #17

adobea78 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 02:51:05 GMT

887 028 02-08-28 hit 089

025 . 02-05-25 215

801 034 03-04-34 hit 630,740,204,046

779 852 85-82-52 hit 958,215

Note that workout for day's maps day's hit(this a huge filter for cost management

Reply #16

adobea78 — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 02:37:50 GMT

Reply #15

OhioDiva — Fri, 05 Dec 2014 20:59:37 GMT

Dr. Miracle,

First, I just want to THANK YOU.. I can't even express how your message has touched me. I have been going through something and felt alone. But after reading your message it made me realize that I am not alone. I am so happy to hear that after losing your job and raising two daughters you still have the strength to fight. I am a mother, a graduate and sometimes life just seems to be crazy.

I look forward to your post and again thank you and bless you.... [ More ]

Reply #14

DrMiracle — Fri, 05 Dec 2014 19:05:39 GMT

focus on one game at a time.

I didn't know the existence of pick3 an pick4 until 2011. Once I found LP, I followed certain members thread and I hit straight next following week. Some of the advices they told other members...

don't chase numbers .. hold your numbers everyday is not xmas

I created 3,5,8 and 2,9,7 pattern base on hold your numbers ..

if you see pair on the 3rd, most likely it will follow 3,5,8 pattern, which is 3rd,5th,8th,13th,..

OHIO

4 6 4 DEC 03..pair 64... [ More ]

Reply #13

OhioDiva — Fri, 05 Dec 2014 18:55:09 GMT

thanks for your encouragement

O-H-I-O Diva

Reply #12

CTNY — Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:29:10 GMT

In an earlier thread you stated that you were failing at Pick 3. 4 and 5.

I think you should just focus on one game at a time.

Honestly some systems are complete crap and made by the influence of desperation.

..and others are top notch. My suggestions is to study number groups and their

importance on the game. There are pools of numbers that are more popular than others.

Don't give up just yet

Reply #11

p4wanbi — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:41:24 GMT

Because they aren't exactly easy to be beaten. It takes rigorous analysis and timing is the key. Again, it is all about timing...you must not follow any system because they are all for selling point and not really help you win anything in return. Watch out for patterns...learn the numbers and see them as your daily routine challenge.

Reply #10

Pick3Guy — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:21:38 GMT

You're very welcome

Reply #9

destinycreation — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 19:51:56 GMT

Read this thread, by Honey502: https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/283580 [How to TRAP a PAIR]

Simplicity Works Best, in the Game of Lottery !!!

Ohio Diva: You are psyching yourself out, feeling sorry for yourself, over the game of lottery. This strategy won't work for you. Take the month of December OFF, get your head on straight, come back next year, 2015, with a refined perspective, and take a new and different approach to attracting prosperity and abundance into your life.

Happy Holi... [ More ]

Reply #8

OhioDiva — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 14:11:54 GMT

Thanks Pick3guy,

I appreciate your advice It made me think very hard.

Reply #7

Pick3Guy — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 07:49:19 GMT

Well, your frustration ,with the numbers, is understandable and ,also, shared by many people. But, try not to make the mistake of believing that a computerized drawing should bring the numbers closer since a person programmed it. The algorithm ,of course, is going to be a closely guarded secret and you just can't know what it is.

Anyway, the reason why the numbers ,computerized or mechanical, are so difficult to figure out is ,mainly, because the odds are ,very much, stacked against us. On t... [ More ]

Reply #6

Stack47 — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 06:03:20 GMT

Many of the systems we see here are based on something that happened recently, but usually expanded to an amount of lines that cost more than the payoff. I get a kick out of it when someone says they will back test in their state when the observation was made in another state.

Every drawing is random, but mathematical probabilities can be used as starting points to create spot plays. I believe the biggest problem is in an effort to prove their system works, some will include hits in other sta... [ More ]

Reply #5

OhioDiva — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 04:45:00 GMT

Thanks so much.. So glad you responded, I will keep your suggestions to heart.

Reply #4

onlymoney — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 03:51:10 GMT

The vast majority of systems fail because they suck !

The few who know what systems work on a somewhat regular basis ain't talkin'. So unless you get lucky knowing someone who's figured it out, you have to pull yourself up by your boot straps and tackle it yourself. Only time, patience, and rigorous testing is the best way to attempt this feat.

Reply #3

destinycreation — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 03:05:55 GMT

I would suggest that you test some different systems. I would try some of Lotto Laughs' Systems, b/c ALL of her Pick 3 systems work Nation Wide, including in OHIO. Do a Search in the Systems Forum. Lotto Laughs recently posted a thread with ALL or the MAJORITY of her Pick 3 systems listed, in one thread. PM her, if you can't find it.

I have never had much luck with Rundown type systems. One of my favorite Pick 3 systems by Lotto Laughs, is her Patience is a Virtue system.

Reply #2

adobea78 — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 02:29:08 GMT

OHIO draws are non-computerized, even if is it computerized, why do you thinking is 'failing' YOU? may be you need different approach to data inference, may be you're over analysing, maybe your workout is bias when back testing(see a hit after the fact !), may be, you're too logical, may be you do not accept the event been RANDOM

Reply #1

tj47 — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 02:24:15 GMT

If the pick 3 and 4 lottery could be beaten consistently it would be shut down as we all know. The money coming in has to be greater than the money being paid out. It's kinda like a casino. The house always has the edge. In my opinion systems will always fail you sooner or later because the game trends and changes all the time. The pattern the numbers fall in one month will go a whole new direction the next month.

Why are the Systems failing?

OhioDiva — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 02:11:49 GMT

Hi LP Friends,

So on another post, I was venting about the OHIO lottery being crazy with its numbers. I've tried so many different systems to try and get the numbers.

I am wondering if I am doing anything wrong. I just can't understand why the numbers are so crazy and why we can't figure the numbers out.

What I don't understand is that The Lottery is used by a computerized data base that was created by a person. So why we can't get the numbers closer. They computer... [ More ]