How to avoid filter mistakes/repeats

Reply #34

Lildarryl — Mon, 23 Feb 2015 03:43:47 GMT

You can lead a horse to water. But you can't make them drink...

Reply #33

Igamble — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:56:04 GMT

1990,

only thing you guilty is not reading the deep knowledge about filters first !after that and many workouts if you still have questions is good to ask .i dont remember playing with fikters for my first 4 months or even first year so there you go ,you are ahead somehow ...is like learnin to drive a stickshift car ,then wanting to drive an formula 1 car immediately afterwards....nope gotta put some time in a honda first...so read up more from those members -also i would add deadaim,kola...

Reply #32

Lildarryl — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:29:34 GMT

Also Todd Northrop

Go to his profile. And look at his favorite posts. All the ones he saved.

If its good enough for the webmaster its vital information

Reply #31

Lildarryl — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 14:26:15 GMT

Fernando

Excalibur

Clipper

Win d

Mike k

Paymenow ron

Mej023. Deep 6. Aggressive pick3 filtering

Lantern

Matchmaker

Luckyloser

Pumpi76 spread system

Ahtnana removing combos

That's 1 year of studying. Pls do me 1 favor. Don't put your playbook in the hands of the world

Reply #30

mikemmk1990 — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 06:54:19 GMT

Well thank you Mon El for sharing as much as you could.. I will just keep practicing with filters as much as I can. It would have been great if you explained more about the filter tricks but that decision was made so I'm just going to keep going at it myself. All suggestions from everyone else were greatly appreciated. I've gone this far with only 4 months of learning.. I feel I have learned a lot within those 4 months.. I know I have a lot more to learn but like Igamble shared with the whole co... [ More ]

Reply #29

Igamble — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 06:23:16 GMT

Good !

I told the same thing to the OP,he asked me in message before this topic ...

Hi, question about filters and which to use

To: mikemmk1990

Sent: February 7, 2015, 1:17 am

Is hundreds of days and thousands of hours of reading past Lp threads from dif. Members and doing pen paper workouts !so there is no any few posts i can guide you too.

you may try flossdog pick 3 straight system but me personally i never used it,but other members say is great.

Previ... [ More ]

Reply #28

Lildarryl — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 04:21:32 GMT

Thanks a million. Cant afford for gtech to get ahold of all the tools in the toolbox...

I bet they're mad at you for changing your mind.

Reply #27

MonEl — Fri, 20 Feb 2015 03:32:18 GMT

I don't use it, but I do have Excel 2003, I think.

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By the way, I changed my mind.

To really try to teach about the so called filters tricks, I would also have to teach whatever I still remember about prediction, which is not as much as I used to know about and I am not about to do that, due to several reasons.

If people can't understand enough about that by reading my old posts then I am sorry, but that is the way that it is, such things won't solve all filt... [ More ]

Reply #26

GASMETERGUY — Thu, 19 Feb 2015 23:38:11 GMT

Do you use Excel

Reply #25

adobea78 — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:08:14 GMT

Pause for a second ; P3 has 1000 combos, so the more you filter, the less chance of hitting a str8, is more of a bankroll and time frame.I will rather wage 50 picks for 10 draws than wage 5 picks for every draw, the assumption been, with the large picks, the possibility of hitting multiple str8 is high. The posed question should be ' why do folks use filters?', the question may seem silly, but it's not.

Reply #24

justawiner — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 11:26:47 GMT

Playing long outs is one of the worst filtering methods in pick 3. it is best to stick to the other filtering methods. as the other guy said no matter how many numbers your filter takes out, it is always going to have one draw it flaws on, that's when having the skill to use a filter comes in.

Reply #23

CARBOB — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:50:24 GMT

031, 093, 247, 339, 629, 904

These HHL have not hit since 2/17/01. Not sure if you can avoid filter mistakes. With pre-draws, you play what they give you.

Reply #22

CARBOB — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 10:26:03 GMT

If you have Lotsoft and learn how to use it, may be the only software you need. This is for today's' Mid draw. LDR 7 is one day short of maximum skip. Digit 9 in P3 at max skip. These are some very good plays, nothing is guaranteed, but good plays.

179, 629, 809, 999

Shot of Lotsoft's Shortsums Table

Reply #21

MonEl — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:21:06 GMT

I will try to explain about filters tricks on the weekend sometime, I will call that thread:

Fernando's Filters Tricks

I don't know how it will turn out, but I will try, even with filters tricks there is only so much that can be done and filters tricks don't always work right and sometimes they should not be used if it seems like they will not work, also there is only so much that you can do with filtration, some failures will always happen no matter what you do or try to do.... [ More ]

Reply #20

MonEl — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:13:18 GMT

Very true, but I can see that some or many people might not understand what Filters Tricks are all about.

I will take the risk and try to explain about them again.

But It will probably be done sometime on the weekend.

I will call that new thread:

Fernando's Filters Tricks

Reply #19

mikemmk1990 — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:30:45 GMT

I don't think the program can do compound filters so I will just leave them alone for now and use regular filters until I get the hang of them. This is the post I'm reffering to:

When you have such as these:

6-4-5 You can try as filters whichever of these seems to work best depending on what past stats show.

Original = 645 = HLH = 1 2 3 positions.

Filters tricks give:

MIrror = HLH = HLH maybe no good in this particular case as the Mirror pattern LHL is the same as the Origina... [ More ]

Reply #18

Lildarryl — Wed, 18 Feb 2015 03:35:42 GMT

All things don't need to be posted over this World Wide Web.

Sorta like nfl nba teams posting their play books online for all of their opponents to see.

Reply #17

MonEl — Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:49:28 GMT

The Even-Odd+Low-High Compound Filter

Has 8X8=64 Patterns so filtering out just 1 pattern won't filter out very many pick 3 numbers, you would need to filter out 8 of the 64 patterns just to filter out as many pick 3 numbers as or example filtering out:

EEE by itself or

Filtering:

LLL by itself

So Filtering 8 or more of those 64 patterns is risky and might produce a Filters Failure.

Those patterns might be best maybe not for Filtering Out but for you to study and see which o th... [ More ]

Reply #16

MonEl — Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:07:52 GMT

As good as THAT software is and it is good, maybe it can't handle my Filters Tricks , I mean that you can use them LIVE as with any other filtered wheeler, but not in an Automated Way using Filters-Templates (Lay-Outs) and I am talking about Regular Filters, cause I don't think that you can use any kind of Compound Filters in any way whatsoever with that software.

But maybe only Mike himself knows for sure, a very long time ago I took a look at that program and back then I knew a few things a... [ More ]

Reply #15

mikemmk1990 — Mon, 16 Feb 2015 20:15:58 GMT

I see, I looked up the filter tricks and wow those will be added on my sheet of paper for tracking filters that are not covered in the Number Combination Slasher 3. I'm not even sure if I can create a template on NCS 3 that will exclude compound filters that I do not want.. though the program is very flexible I'm probably just missing it. Is it possible to use compound filter tricks? Like the mirror of HLL = LLH and EOO = OOE so remove any combos with compound filter: LLH-OOE. Would this be too... [ More ]

Reply #14

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:01:33 GMT

Sometimes you might want to use all draws for stats and sometimes you might want to separate them and only use Singles if you want to predict for Singles and Doubles if you want to predict for Doubles and the same for Triples, for example:

The Incredible Happens Some-Times As Seen here:

Wed, Feb 04, 2015 3-9-4 OOE-LHL

Tue, Feb 03, 2015 3-7-0 OOE-LHL

Sat, Jan 31, 2015 2-4-8 EEE-LLH

Fri, Jan 30, 2015 4-0-8 EEE-LLH

In that case more extreme filter techniques can be tri... [ More ]

Reply #13

lakerben — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:41:06 GMT

A triple may be coming:

111

333

666

888.

Reply #12

dr san — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:51:25 GMT

Another pattern to pick 3:04 is larger and less equal

The last draw at each position

example

568

689 higher in the 1st 2nd and 3rd position

another example

568

457

Lower the 1st and 3rd and 3rd

568

179 smaller and larger

Reply #11

dr san — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:12:35 GMT

Hello, first the basic standards after the filters so as not to conflict, the patterns

Basic has to be a reference, or a pivot, or repeat the last or more draws the pick 3, and 4

In pick 4 you can have the double reference twins

example

1541 the couple have twins 1st and 4th position,

In pick 4 have 6 positions = 1.2 1.3 1.4 2.3 2.4 3.4

We have 10 pairs twins = 00 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88 99

10 pairs times 6 = 60 matrices, of course lack the other pair posicionalmemte

In t... [ More ]

Reply #10

mikemmk1990 — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 07:51:55 GMT

Thanks for the wonderful idea of compound filters I remember reading about them. I understand that you are predicting the uses of filters and respect that. I will keep exploring new methods and maybe come up with my own one day. I like looking at filters the most so I am going to stick with them for a while. I agree that the NCS is an amazing tool and the creator Mike has come up with so many other cool and clever programs.

Reply #9

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 07:04:19 GMT

The Number Combination Slasher might be the best pick 3 and pick 4 filtration tool out there, I had some talks about filters with good old Mike and also with Ricky (Paurths) as well as with a few others.

Mike already knew quite a few things, but I helped some.

Mike is very sharp, yes, very much!!!

Makes great filtration tools, Filtration and Prediction Wise I am no longer as I used to be, I have left such things kind of alone for many years now, all that is left of that are the software... [ More ]

Reply #8

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:55:40 GMT

Hi!

Filters like the Open-Close-Straight that do have very many patterns to them, won't repeat as often right away as filters that have fewer patterns to them, for example on Singles, Doubles and Triples, the Singles come out the most times, so most people play Singles.

Combined filters what I called Compound Filters have more patterns so the patterns won't repeat as often right away, an example of such a filter is:

Even-Odd + Low High Combined

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I can't talk much abo... [ More ]

Reply #7

mikemmk1990 — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:37:04 GMT

Thank you for the informative posts I have read many topics and posts under your name LANTERN and have learned a lot from the use of filters. I am using Number Combination Slasher 3 to see the different filters and their uses so it has made it easier for me to see trends.. its just the way I interpret them is what needs to be improved. I see from those line widths I could have easily used 4 line width filters throughout the month (filtering out the doubles). However, I plan on playing more than

Reply #6

mikemmk1990 — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:32:00 GMT

I see that even middle sums do not repeat as anticipated so what if I do the opposite such as if I see a middle sum I do not filter it out.. instead I filter out a sum that was recent (maybe from the evening draw instead of midday) but is not a middle sum, maybe the higher or lower end sums such as 0-5 or 22-27. However, if I do see a triple repeat such as 11 11 11 then I would filter out 11. But as I see from past month based on your post that has not shown up at all for midday MI. I could poss... [ More ]

Reply #5

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:26:36 GMT

Now Lowest to Highest Widths:

Fri, Feb 13, 2015 6-1-1 5

Thu, Feb 12, 2015 3-8-5 5

Wed, Feb 11, 2015 1-8-0 8

Tue, Feb 10, 2015 2-1-8 7

Mon, Feb 09, 2015 2-3-0 3

Sun, Feb 08, 2015 3-8-1 7

Sat, Feb 07, 2015 3-0-8 8

Fri, Feb 06, 2015 5-9-6 4

Thu, Feb 05, 2015 4-0-6 6

Wed, Feb 04, 2015 3-9-4 6

Tue, Feb 03, 2015 3-7-0 7

Mon, Feb 02, 2015 5-2-1 4

Sun, Feb 01, 2015 8-1-5 7

Sat, Jan 31, 2015 2-4-8 6

Fri, Jan 30, 2015 4-0-8 8

Thu, Jan 29, 2015 3-6-5 3

Reply #4

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 06:10:16 GMT

Middle Sums on the pick 3 game are like 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16, I think, but beware of any mistakes that I might make.

Fri, Feb 13, 2015 6-1-1 08

Thu, Feb 12, 2015 3-8-5 16

Wed, Feb 11, 2015 1-8-0 09

Tue, Feb 10, 2015 2-1-8 11

Mon, Feb 09, 2015 2-3-0 05

Sun, Feb 08, 2015 3-8-1 12

Sat, Feb 07, 2015 3-0-8 11

Fri, Feb 06, 2015 5-9-6 20

Thu, Feb 05, 2015 4-0-6 10

Wed, Feb 04, 2015 3-9-4 16

Tue, Feb 03, 2015 3-7-0 10

Mon, Feb 02, 2015 5-2-1 08

Sun, Feb 01,... [ More ]

Reply #3

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 05:46:24 GMT

The Middle Sums are were most of the numbers are at, so the Middle Sums would come out more often than the Lower and the Highest Sums, but even so, the answer might be that even the Middle Sums won't repeat as often or as soon right away as we would like them to, but wait a few minutes as I look at the MI State Pick 3 game.

Reply #2

mikemmk1990 — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 05:34:21 GMT

Yes thats exactly what I mean by filter repeats, I meant filter pattern failures! I figured playing the repeat would be a good way. Thanks for answering with your input very appreciated. Does the repeat pattern show up a third time usually if I want to play a repeat pattern? Say example: 02/13 - sum: 12 02/14 - sum: 12 would 02/15 be sum 12 have higher chance of showing up? How would I determine that.

Reply #1

MonEl — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 05:28:00 GMT

You probably mean, How to avoid filters patterns failures?.

One way would be to play repeat patterns, then you don't have to worry about filters patterns repeats, because then you do want repeats.

Well, I myself won't try to answer and instead let others give their input.

How to avoid filter mistakes/repeats

mikemmk1990 — Sat, 14 Feb 2015 04:45:21 GMT

What are the best strategies to avoid filter repeats and mistakes