Drawn from the Future or Pushed from the Past?

Reply #16

BevsPicks2 — Tue, 02 Jun 2015 00:04:47 GMT

99% of the Pick the numbers come from the past. Numbers follow numbers. Get the Professor Hitts Ready Reference and rundowns book. You will eventually see the pattern.

Reply #15

river26 — Mon, 01 Jun 2015 22:33:23 GMT

I DID A 9 WEEK BACK TEST ON PICK 3 BALL MACHINE EACH DIGIT CAME OUT 14 TO 25 x IN MIDDAY AND EVE,,,,,,,EACH DIGIT CAME OUT ON AVERAGE COMBINED GAME 33 TO 49X, SO THAT TELLS ME CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT IF U TRACK DIGITS BY POSITION U CAN KEY IN ON A HIT AND TRACK DOUBLES. ALSO LONGEST OUT DIGIT BY POSITION, LONGEST OUT DOUBLES . STARTING SUNDAY MIDDAY TO SAT EVE THATS THE START AND END OF EACH WEEK, SAY IF THE 9 SHOWED ONE TIME THE PREVIOUS WEEK AND U CAN BET YOUR NEXT PLAYS FOR THE WEEK DOUBLE NINE... [ More ]

Reply #14

SergeM — Sun, 31 May 2015 16:50:54 GMT

There is no time like past and future, there always is only now.

The wideness of different to similar outcomes is what you call random.

You wrote a question and didn't develop the mathematics, neither the observations.

Finally, a jackpot payout might be one dollar or less if everybody wins. See Bruce Almighty if you don't get it.

Reply #13

SergeM — Sun, 31 May 2015 16:40:55 GMT

You can calculate the cases with mathematics, but forecasting a combination correctly might be a piece of witchcraft.

Humans tend to play patterns, but they do not win with them as easily. It is rather like sticking to a bet or systematically playing the same thinking algorithm.

Humans are not able to recognize small patterns most of the time. They are slower than a computer. They are mostly limited to low and high recognition, or something easy like that. Few of us, like memory world cham... [ More ]

Reply #12

adobea78 — Sun, 31 May 2015 03:59:13 GMT

Perception, perception! Do you see with your mind or the eye? Google ' how your eyes trick your mind', and maybe ' the perceived patterns' may be just illusions. Humans need pattern for sense of orientation, hence survival. The posed question is a philosophical one, so must be the axiom. The ideal the some states are 'screwing' wagers with pre-trials is just absurd. If you see patterns everywhere, RNG States should be your friend, since you believe in non-random nature of lottery. Perceptions wi... [ More ]

Reply #11

RJOh — Sat, 30 May 2015 18:15:29 GMT

Pick-3 and pick-4 games are probably better suited for patterns or finding indicators of when the patterns should appear than the jackpot games.

A lot of pick3/4 players make that argument about every lottery system believing since the odds of winning are better the same must be true for any system working. I use to get PMs from them all the time suggesting my efforts at winning a jackpot game would be better spent playing pick3/4 games. I think I finally convinced them I had no interest in

Reply #10

JKING — Sat, 30 May 2015 06:49:17 GMT

Hi,

What was the data previous to the last draw (assuming you are collecting the right kind of data). The numbers picked in the draw is the answer to that data set. So, it is a matter of weather or not you can reverse engineer the logic.

Solutions will be found if you start simple with the best you have that works and then take small steps on expanding, always double checking the performance along the way.

Just one persons opinion.

Reply #9

Stack47 — Sat, 30 May 2015 02:43:27 GMT

It depends on how many combos are these patterns. Even if it's a distinct 2 or 3 odd numbers in a 5/39 game, it will take few more patterns just to hopefully get a number of combos to play and to break even.

Pick-3 and pick-4 games are probably better suited for patterns or finding indicators of when the patterns should appear than the jackpot games. I have no idea what somebody would consider a distinct pattern in the jackpot games.

Reply #8

RJOh — Thu, 14 May 2015 11:43:56 GMT

If one thinks he sees patterns it's easy to prove by classifying every drawn combination with the same formula and seeing if any significant groups evolve. I doubt if any one would want to reveal their findings until after they proved worthless to their efforts of trying to win jackpot.

Reply #7

Tialuvslotto — Sat, 09 May 2015 12:08:34 GMT

Humans are pattern recognizing machines -- it's what we do. Do we sometimes get carried away and see patterns that aren't there? Maybe. But I think it is more likely that we are just focusing on a pattern that isn't relevant in the current situation.

Lottery is full of patterns -- each draw is composed of even numbers and odd, high and low, repeats from the last game, sums, etc. And each of these statistics has a distribution. If the statistic gets too out of whack, it WILL revert to the mean... [ More ]

Reply #6

MillionsWanted — Thu, 07 May 2015 20:30:42 GMT

Of course there is no memory . But the lottery machine and lottery balls often have patterns in the draws

A pattern happens because the lottery machine and lottery balls behave like they do because of design and wear and tear.

Reply #5

SergeM — Thu, 07 May 2015 09:43:29 GMT

In theory there is a chance that every drawing will be composed by the same numbers.

What is your algorithm for that

Reply #4

bobby623 — Wed, 06 May 2015 20:06:23 GMT

I think most serious lottery gamblers accept the fact that the drawing machines have no memory.

Therefore, any pattern(s) a player sees in the drawing results is imaginary.

There seems to be two schools of thought:

1. The winning combinations are being 'managed' by some unseen force; therefore, any workout attempting to predict

the next winning combination has to have a mathematical base.

2. Because the lottery balls are lifeless and are as dumb as dirt, any workout has to be non... [ More ]

Reply #3

Lido Shuffle — Wed, 06 May 2015 03:58:44 GMT

Very interesting, Murgatroyd. So, do you believe the lottery is truly random? It seems that if it was, there would be no possible discernible pattern. Is there any one thing you think might be pattern-like

Reply #2

Murgatroyd — Tue, 05 May 2015 03:43:47 GMT

Initial axiom: the drawings are intended to be truly random, whether or not they turn out to be so in practice.

If truly random, past drawings have no relevance to the next one. It is possible, but not certain, that analysis of past drawings may reveal that the random method is less random than intended, and may reveal ways to increase your chances of winning.

Attraction to the mean is a purely probabilistic phenomenon, and has no relevance to any single drawing.

Reply #1

Igamble — Sun, 03 May 2015 02:42:07 GMT

They follow a specific pattern,the lottery officals do not like that... so they have 4,5 pre draws in some states,non ball machine draws and /or other schems and future changes cos they do not like that natural events have such a perfect pattern .

Do not play and revolt as you see this changes implemented in your state draws. Bigger matrix, non mechanical draws- those are signs of screwing up the players

Drawn from the Future or Pushed from the Past?

Lido Shuffle — Sat, 02 May 2015 20:11:41 GMT

When we consider the next numbers in any lottery game, what must our initial axiom be?

Are the numbers a product of past patterns, or are they destined to be what they will be in the next drawing regardless of the past?

If they are attracted to the mean, what kind of force is that?

I don't mean to be so philosophical, but there are lots of ways to analyze the data. What road we take would seem to depend on our initial assumptions, right?

What are your initial assumptions