Goseahawks -111/+222..and observation high pair chart

Reply #91

Goseahawks — Tue, 12 Apr 2016 02:38:36 GMT

thk u so much kreative1

Reply #90

grwurston — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 22:12:14 GMT

C'mon Man!!! I'm starting to think you work for the lottery...

Reply #89

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:12:17 GMT

A system is only better at predicting numbers than randomly picking them if the results are better than what you would get with the random numbers. The system is not just automatically better because it is a system.

Love the Packers of course.

I don't know that the analogy is that great though. The relationship between the quarterback and the receivers is completely different than the relationship between the lottery and us players. The lottery is not making every effort to match up its nu... [ More ]

Reply #88

kreative1 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:49:24 GMT

Best of luck with your future back surgery!

My husband had it 15 years ago with great results and the best advice I can give you is

Listen to your doctor

Don't be in a hurry to return to work

Walk as much as possible

Throw honey do list to the side until you are fully recovered and don't let the boredom get to you!

Just because they send you home in a couple of days does not mean you are good to go lol

Apparently everyone else is so busy going back and forth that they didn't... [ More ]

Reply #87

str8ca$hhomie — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:26:18 GMT

That's an excellent example of what a system should do. I don't think, however, that the Green Bay Packers would send their playbook to their rival the Chicago Bears so that they could give them feedback as to whether it worked or not (you know maybe tweak it a little bit) to see if it worked in their State.

Reply #86

ArizonaDream — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 10:53:09 GMT

Not all plans are good plans.

With standard state payouts, if I bet totally randomly, I should expect to get 50% of my money back in winnings. (I'm playing on paper and on the prediction board only, btw)

With my first attempt at creating a system, I found that I I was following a pattern that constantly paid back far less than random, maybe 20 % or so. Now, that was very interesting, it suggests something non-random may actually be going on! Just flip around the idea, and do the... [ More ]

Reply #85

grwurston — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 03:57:50 GMT

Of course a system is better at better at predicting numbers than randomly picking them. Random is quick picks, if it hits it's all luck. A system is working with a plan to pick your numbers.

You follow football? You a Packers fan? Here's two game situations.

1) The Packers have the ball with 10 seconds left in the game. It's 4th down, on the 40 yard line. They need a touchdown to win. They're in the huddle. Aaron Rogers calls a play that they always use in that situation. They get the tou... [ More ]

Reply #84

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 03:52:18 GMT

Agreed. The only important page was the first one. Many good examples, explanations of reduction, and uses of indicators.

Reply #83

lakerben — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 03:10:25 GMT

So what has this endless babble about nothing accomplished? Nothing. Pages and pages of talk about something that could occur and assigning percentages to a game that is win or lose and the only percentage is 100% ,that is reality.

Reply #82

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 03:04:52 GMT

Agree on the favorite pairs.

Reply #81

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 03:03:03 GMT

I agree with the statement about other pairs. That's why I believe so much in repeating pairs. But I won't go there for now.

In the example you state about other pairs appearing with the budget pair, I observed that there was instances that the other pair did not show again in that 40 draw period. One of the pairs did, in fact it seemed to be in repeating mode. It showed more times than the budget pair. In the previous 40 draw period, it also appeared multiple times. However in the next 40 dr... [ More ]

Reply #80

SWMcCaig — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:58:55 GMT

Reply #79

amber123 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:55:39 GMT

I agree, let's focus on the silent majority to speak out and get something started soon. Lots of talented individuals who are sealing their lips.

I like this side of you.

Reply #78

Goseahawks — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:53:24 GMT

again none of my system are 100%....play what u can afford....i personally stick with singles only...some people plays doubles and singles..and when i do play singles, these are my favorite pairs....my everyday pairs at that...my everyday keys are 0123....its all process of reducing at this point...playing 10-15 combos a day online...or spending 10-15.00 to make 150.00..ill take those box odds all day. but that's just me

01 03 05 07 09 12 14 16 18 23 25 27 29 34 36 38 45 47 49

Reply #77

amber123 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:52:44 GMT

You really amaze me, and I'm not being facetious.

You eloquently explained the problems involved with random in your second paragraph. You filled a lot of the holes. And....... You answered your own question.

In your first paragraph you tell me what you're looking for, and my response was nothing is 100% predictable (paraphrasing).... Doesn't That response trigger further confirmation that the 20% doesn't work? And that's how you account for the 80% success rate

Reply #76

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:48:49 GMT

Amber-One more thing. I am actually hoping to find that with the analysis, a system works. If we are going to find what works, we need creative people to come up with ideas and throw them out there. We also need people who are good at evaluating whether the ideas work or not. Some people might be good at both things idk.

You seem pretty creative at coming up with ideas. Now, if something you come up with turns out not to have any merit, would you rather people keep quiet about that and you ke... [ More ]

Reply #75

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:38:01 GMT

Amber-My questioning is looking at whether a system is any better at predicting numbers than just randomly picking numbers, so I'm definitely not looking to hold a system to 100% accuracy.

Like this: If a system produces 1 suggested straight play per draw. I would look for whether the suggested play hits any better than one would expect from any random combo. The random combo we would expect to hit .1% of the time. So in that example I would be looking for it to work better than .1%, not 100... [ More ]

Reply #74

lakerben — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:37:48 GMT

Why bother anymore nothing gets through to this member. Four pages of explanation etc. And the same outcome paragraphs of meaningless babble in response. Either that or he's doing this to get on people's nerves.

Somebody pull the plug

Reply #73

amber123 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:30:26 GMT

Not trying to start a flare up, but honestly, you don't got it . You seem to be looking for a fool proof, 100% accurate all the time working system. You may deny this, but think about it. Every time you point out a system that doesn't work, you should remind yourself that systems aren't 100% accurate, ore even close. And this revelation would stop you from going one step further in your investigation.

In other words, If someone is aware that no system works 100% of the time, or even 80% of th... [ More ]

Reply #72

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:23:22 GMT

First of all, I didn't take issue with anything like what you are talking about. I just asked the guy some questions and looked for some clarification. I guess I did question his statement of playing 30 combos, hitting in 10 draws, and making a profit. It didn't seem to add up and it doesn't add up. Fine. That's really the least of things here as it looked like an off the cuff type of statement. So he could clarify what he meant and move on.

You can use the simple math, which you aren't takin... [ More ]

Reply #71

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:15:07 GMT

Got it, no one has suggested it should.

Reply #70

amber123 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:13:30 GMT

No system how great, will work every draw, everyday.

Reply #69

lakerben — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 02:00:30 GMT

Nobody is bullying you. Your analysis of everything you post is like a bull in a China shop and it never makes any sense. SW was very kind to say the least but you never read or listen. Gruwston tried to make it clear and you are so head strong so nothing gets through. You just plow through a system and make zero sense and when the dust clears people head to the bar. Like goose hawk stated try the system and if you don't like it move on. He even stated that you dont have to use every pair,but di... [ More ]

Reply #68

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:55:42 GMT

I'm going to chime in here one more time then I will probably never respond to any of your posts again.

I looked at WI, which is a RNG state and CT, which is a ball state. In the last 40 days, both states had one of the budget pairs appear 10 times. So, if random, appears to be about the same in each type of drawing. CT had it with a key number 8 times. WI, not so much, 4.

However, I am not an expert on odds or probability. If I did the math correctly, that's about 25%. 55 pairs in pick 3.... [ More ]

Reply #67

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:55:33 GMT

We got it lakerben. You are a gambler that doesn't care about your chances of winning. Many successful gambler's out there with the same philosophy.

Reply #66

lakerben — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:50:58 GMT

Watch the next system that is posted. We will see more of the same. This 33% of 55 pairs from the last chart determines tomorrow's outcome even if you don't bet. But you won't win with the 12 pairs from last week etc... Am I making sense yet

Reply #65

SWMcCaig — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:41:06 GMT

Yeah, me too. My head hurts........

Reply #64

lakerben — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:40:54 GMT

I guess he didn't read this post. This many picks ,this percentage of that, baloney! If you say it's random then you can't assign any percentage besides 100%. Either you win or lose!

This reminds me of a tornado I saw near Oklahoma City about 20 years ago. It destroyed everything in its path.

Reply #63

lakerben — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 01:35:09 GMT

Did you get all those percentages and pairs ? There is enough there to write a book, especially when you don't have to play all the pairs. How many times does something need to be explained to be clear??

I need a drink after this! Lol.

Reply #62

grwurston — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:59:16 GMT

To win in the Pick 3-4 you have to first learn the game and study how it works in your state. As you do, you know what to look for and when to play. You learn how to read the numbers. You learn what numbers appear together and how the patterns and trends work. Every state is different. It takes a lot of time to get good at it, mistakes will be made. But as they say, we learn from our mistakes.

There are a lot of people here that post systems. Some work, some don't. They don't work in all stat... [ More ]

Reply #61

Wisconsin3054 — Mon, 11 Apr 2016 00:40:22 GMT

So, looking specifically at the Pick 3 Observation High Digit Pair Chart and the budget plays :

Turns out with the key digits not appearing in the pairs, each of the 30 combos is a single. Playing those boxed therefore covers 180 of the 1000 different pick 3 combinations. 18%.

Picking any 180 of the 1000 different pick 3 combinations randomly, expected hits would be 5-6 (5.4 to be exact) over 30 days.

So, in the example noted of the last 30 days in Wisconsin, 5 hits within the combos wo... [ More ]

Reply #60

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:46:30 GMT

I didn't get 5 hits unless I played all 30 combos each draw, or happened to pick the right ones of those 30 combos to play on the right days.

Maybe we just view things as working differently. To me, if its a system that works it give you some predictions or narrows down the numbers in a way that is better than just picking random numbers.

Anyways, why couldn't we just have discussed Goseahawks system like I was trying to do, instead of getting all the bullying about asking questions?

I... [ More ]

Reply #59

grwurston — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:32:51 GMT

Does it work? You got 5 hits right? That's better than a lot of other people do. If it didn't work you wouldn't have had any. If you take any group of 30 combos with a similar distribution of singles and doubles the singles will hit 72% of the time, doubles 27% or close to it.

Again there is no need to play every day. The history over the last 30 days show the pairs hit 2 - 4 days after the prior hit. So why would you play every day? If it hits you wait 2 days then play. If it goes 4 days wit... [ More ]

Reply #58

adobea78 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:17:50 GMT

So a straight pick is within 1 to 1000cycles, then your pick could be the next 5, 10,30 ...cycles, that's the beauty of nuance, you wiggle back and forth with waging strategy. P3 has regulations, take advantage of those regulations, this will define your waging strategy, hence your odds.

Reply #57

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:02:13 GMT

Right, if you picked the right numbers you hit 5 times out of 30 draws.

So there was a hit within the 30 potential combos 5 times over 30 draws. Does that mean the system works? There is no way to analyze whether it works or not without working through the math, probability, and such, to determine whether it is hitting any more or less or equal to what one would expect with any 30 combos with similar distribution of singles and doubles.

Reply #56

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:48:27 GMT

Sure thing, at this point in time I believe the lottery to be random. At least that the attempt is that it is random. The lottery makes a huge profit with it being random, so not so sure about an incentive to make it not random intentionally. But you are wrong, I do not have a closed position on randomness. Well, maybe with the bouncing balls idk. I would be convinced that the computer generated numbers are not randomly generated when there is evidence that shows so. I would love to discover tha... [ More ]

Reply #55

grwurston — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:46:54 GMT

Goseahawks said you could use the budget pairs 56-58-67-69-78-89 to get hits. Well, he was right. The pairs hit 9 times in the last 30 days in Wisconsin. If you use the 0,1,2,3,4 as the 3rd digit as he suggested you had 5 hits out of the 9. You do not need to play all 30 combos every day. As you can see below, there was only 1 time the pairs hit 2 days in a row. When I do my workouts, I have 60 numbers to start with. But I will only play 20 -25 at most. If I can play less I will. However, if I u... [ More ]

Reply #54

SWMcCaig — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:34:32 GMT

I'm done. My time is more valuable than this......

Reply #53

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:32:31 GMT

This is the clear answer?

Except it looked like he did say to play 30 combos...

And all this answers is what lakerben does, when what I was interested in was what Goseahawks, the poster of the system, does.

I get that predicting pairs doesn't necessarily mean play every combo of every pair. Yes, filter apply other systems and what not.

HOWEVER, the idea of a system the predicts pairs, would ideally be that those pairs actually hit more than random pairs would. Which is why I asked th... [ More ]

Reply #52

adobea78 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:29:41 GMT

Your post and comments presumes the innumeracy of LP community(my impression), all your discussions about stats is not new. Trust me folks are very much aware of the odds , does this prevent them from trying?

Let me ask you this simple questions:

What's the probability of hitting a straight pick 3?

What are the ODDS of hitting a straight pick 3?

What's the probability time frame for a straight pick 3?

What's the ODDS time frame for a straight picks3?

NB:You subscribe to the lo... [ More ]

Reply #51

lakerben — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:26:04 GMT

Reply #50

SWMcCaig — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:14:30 GMT

There was nothing wrong with asking your original question....Lakerben did an excellent job of answering it immediately after you asked it. For arguments sake, I'm going to assume that you missed his answer....In these forums, most members will give you the basic mechanics of their systems, but that doesn't mean do this, then that, then poof, there's your winner . It still requires some work on your part, which is what Lakerben was referring to. Go back and re-read his response and maybe it will... [ More ]

Reply #49

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:05:05 GMT

I understand. They offer their system. And they are offering it in a forum that is for discussing lottery systems. So they have opened up their system to discussion. There is more to discussion than just saying you are a amazing wow that is awesome and such.

In the discussion in this thread. I questioned the statement the system producer made that you could play 30 boxed combos per day, hit every 10 days, and make a profit. What about my questions was an attack??? As I said, am I missing som... [ More ]

Reply #48

lakerben — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:59:15 GMT

Well said SW. I agree 100%.

I have more stuff I won't bother to post after all the comments I've seen lately. I'm on a lot less than I used to. I will be working on and using new and old stuff. So there is no need to waste time reading garbage. I'll drop by once in a while to see what's new but I won't spend as much time as I did in the past.

The social part of this forum is good at times but the crap some people spew like deception and the like has gotten to be very old. Its like being b... [ More ]

Reply #47

SWMcCaig — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:51:05 GMT

Again, with emphasis.....Every system producer here freely offers their creation for us to try. There is no such system as one that will win in every state every day for a profit. The simple answer to your question is to back-test the system/s you are interested in in your state. If it works and plays at a profit, congratulations. If it doesn't, please move on to the next one. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. However, as far as I can recall, you have seemed to make it your personal... [ More ]

Reply #46

ArizonaDream — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:41:22 GMT

Yeah, there is, you asked the terrible question that few here seem to want to address, Have you looked at whether the pairs created with this system hit any more than 11 or 12 random pairs

Reply #45

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:40:51 GMT

Ok.. see above.. I asked questions... was there something wrong with them

Reply #44

SWMcCaig — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:39:20 GMT

If you have a question, ask it. If you have something to offer, give it. If it's not for you, simply move on.....very simple.

Reply #43

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:36:13 GMT

Well SWMcCaig,

It appears that the only thing accepted here is to high-five and hoo-raa for any system anyone makes here. Do not ask questions, point out faulty math, and for sure, never talk about whether something actually works or not.

Reply #42

SWMcCaig — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:32:25 GMT

Guys/Gals, this is really starting to get old.....

Reply #41

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:25:51 GMT

Who are the bullys??? Find a post where I've been using put-downs and name calling? There's several here, looks like you are deciding to join them, who use those tactics all the time. Someone says something they disagree with, they respond with a bunch of put downs, name calling, and bullying. Sometimes its more like a kindergarten playground than a discussion forum.

The topic of the forum is to discuss lottery systems.

Reply #40

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:16:45 GMT

Or here

Reply #39

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:16:11 GMT

Was there really something so terrible about what I said here

Reply #38

reddog — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 22:35:17 GMT

Reply #37

Goseahawks — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:21:44 GMT

Hey guys, sorry I've been away for a while.....dealing with future back surgery,,,been in the hospital for a few days, now im out on leave of absence,,,i see you guys are conversing over the post,,,all im going to say about it ,if it works, deal with it..I've spent some time on it trying to make it work for myself and u guys. As u guys know, I post lots of systems Some good and others are betters..Im only here to help . If it doesn't appeal to any of your likings, Please move on. These systems a... [ More ]

Reply #36

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 16:58:40 GMT

You've got mail.

Reply #35

bigmon — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 16:41:19 GMT

Great job jay. Can you help me understand how to track pairs and vtracs. If you will please pm the info to me

Thanks.

Reply #34

lakerben — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 16:05:33 GMT

I agree 100%. There are others too. But hang in there or use the report feature.

The laxative part is hilarious

Reply #33

Wentworth — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 13:23:05 GMT

This post refers to Wisconsins postings.

Reply #32

Wentworth — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 13:21:45 GMT

Ok heres the scoop....first this is supposed to be fun..second of all these people come here all the time with ideas to help you win or just observe for whatever reason, and they are great people. Do their ideas always work? A lot of times they do some not as good as others or in all states all the time, but the authors deserve credit and respect for their efforts. Now YOU as ive seen your other postings come on here with a Bully nasty attitude looking for an argument and a fight for whatever re... [ More ]

Reply #31

Jayhawk58 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 03:42:44 GMT

It Works!!

I just back tested this against KS draws.

April 2 and 3 EVE 753 409 409 123689 12 13 16 18 19 89

756 -111 +222 23 26 28 29

409 398 621 36 38 39

68 69

4/4 028

4/5 889

4/6 089

4/7 189

4/8 196

Can do the same for several other draws together as in illustration. Easy for me as I track repeat pairs. All these were in the mix as I matched to Vtracs. Should be able to do the same even if not tracking pairs. Not a vtrac believer? I can probably make

Reply #30

river26 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 02:25:51 GMT

i agree its a good filter to use tweak it to your likes and narrow it down to like 3 pairs and your in

Reply #29

river26 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 02:00:18 GMT

good job goosy i backtracked jersey works fine, now i have another great filter to work with i give u credit aaa

Reply #28

Wisconsin3054 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 00:42:19 GMT

Yes, then you put those two results in order:

1 2 3 4 4 6

Then make your pairs from those digits:

12 13 14 16 23 24 26 34 36 44 46

According to Goseahawks, one or more of those pairs will show in the next 6 draws, or the entire combo in 7 draws.

Reply #27

BabyBoy33 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 00:29:13 GMT

I Did This Pick 3 Eve Last 2 Draws

4/7/16 013

4/6/16 222

013+222=235

235-111=124

124+222=346

Reply #26

Wisconsin3054 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 00:20:37 GMT

What about it

Reply #25

BabyBoy33 — Sat, 09 Apr 2016 00:17:59 GMT

What about Texas

Reply #24

lakerben — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 23:38:33 GMT

Try less picks until you build a bankroll.

I say 30 singles is too much if you bet everyday.

The +111 always is in the ballpark. Find something through back testing that works and stick with it. Then add a couple of picks when the time is right. Two to three dollars a night is plenty.

You may try and cover with 456,654 564, etc 789,897,809 etc. tons of picks and then something like 001 hits. That's the lottery mystery. I played the heck out of 191 for 10 plays and dropped it and t... [ More ]

Reply #23

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 21:14:10 GMT

I see. I know lakerben hates to look at the numbers, but some of us do. If you are playing 30 singles combos boxed, with any 30 random combos you'd expect them to hit every 5-6 draws over time. So, I guess the promise of every 10 days wouldn't have been much of a promise.

Anyways, I would understand that was more of an off the cuff remark in the first place versus something tested out.

Also, the 2 or 3 times better than promised is still not profitable.

Reply #22

SWMcCaig — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 21:08:06 GMT

I believe, if you read the original instructions, that he is saying his analysis is that it's working 2 to 3 times BETTER than promised in those particular states. In OK, this system has hit once in the last 10 days (it lost money).

Reply #21

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:58:21 GMT

So you're saying it doesn't work for KS and WI

Reply #20

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:35:50 GMT

Now, for those wanting to be on a budget, I suggest picking out the mix pairs;

56,58,67,69,78,89 ....adding 0,1,2,3,and 4 to all, giving you 30 box combos, doing it this way, grants you a hit within 10 days avg. with some profits.

I can answer this for by using my own state-KS- as an example...... 3 of the budget pairs hit in 9 days, night draw, and several in Mid draw. Oh yeah, your own state......twice in 7 days.

Reply #19

lakerben — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:18:43 GMT

Chill out bro. Go fishing it's relaxing and clears the mind. Don't over analyze things it only muddles the end result.

Reply #18

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:15:04 GMT

Right. But its his system, why don't you just let him answer for it?? I wasn't begging for an immediate response. I can wait for him to get back to it no problem.

Reply #17

lakerben — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:07:46 GMT

I don't see him logged on. I spared him the trouble of redundancy. Time is precious my friend. We are a team in this lotto universe. Rah,rah.

You just got two great responses for the price of one. No deception just the truth. Big pockets mean many combos either wins or losses. Its all commen sense no need to go over the same multiple ticket thing over and over and over. Since you like percentages that means 100% win or loss.

Reply #16

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 20:00:04 GMT

Jayhawk58-

I assume you were referencing me here, even though you replied to lakerben. I respectfully asked Goseahawks some questions about the system. Is a person not allowed to ask questions here unless they've posted their own system?

Have I ever posted any prediction other than State of the Day challenge? A couple times in Pick 3 Wisconsin.

Do I have a set method or system that works for you? Not particularly, I am watching, learning, and asking questions here. When things don't se... [ More ]

Reply #15

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:55:07 GMT

I didn't ask you lakerben, I asked Goseahawks. Why you feel the need to jump in whenever I ask somebody else something I don't know.

And if you read his post, the second part which I am referencing there, he suggested if you are budgeting to use his set of 30 boxed combos, that one would hit ever 10 days or so, and that would be a profit.

Reply #14

lakerben — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:26:32 GMT

Again with feeling one or more pairs.

Not all of them.

Funny this reminds me of a guy who bet on every horse at the track. He spent alot to break even or lose a few bucks.

Reply #13

Jayhawk58 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 19:06:06 GMT

Many ways to reduce a group of numbers down to playable quantity. Sums, key digits, digits out, vtracs, pairs, etc.

Of course these are based on past results. Which you have stated many times you believe have no effect on the next draw.

So, the best odds for YOU are to keep track of the odds and play accordingly.

BTW, have you ever posted any predictions other than State of the Day challenge? Do you have a set method or system that works for you

Reply #12

lakerben — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 18:58:12 GMT

Yes you did. I don't think he said to play every pair. If he posted 38 different pairs would most members use them all? No! They use filters,due digits,sums,repeat digits before they decide.

The smart players play recent digits and some recent digits could be mixed with the ones shown. Its not always gloom or doom,oh my gosh I found a fault in this persons system. I've used it and I don't use every pair. If it comes close to my other workouts its a good thing. There are information :widths,ro... [ More ]

Reply #11

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:51:58 GMT

On your second system:

Similar issues here. You are covering a large amount of potential boxed plays with these pairs. Even your budget play calls for playing 30 boxed combos. If you get a hit every 10 days with those, how do you make a profit? At $.50/play, you are spending $15.00 a day, $150.00 in 10 days, with a $40.00 win?

Am I missing something

Reply #10

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 17:48:43 GMT

Goseahawks-

On your first system:

You're example, due to two of the digits being 3s, creates 11 pairs. If all the digits were different, there would be 12 pairs. Have you looked at whether the pairs created with this system hit any more than 11 or 12 random pairs?

I ask because 11 or 12 pairs covers an immense amount of potential boxed combos. 1 pair with 2 different digits covers 54 of the 1000 potential combos if you are playing boxed. It would seem that picking almost any 11 or 12 pa... [ More ]

Reply #9

Wentworth — Fri, 08 Apr 2016 12:24:02 GMT

this system works!!!!!!! ive been testing and retesting...thanks Goseahawks!!!! Well done indeed

Reply #8

Blackapple — Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:40:58 GMT

318-SAVE

+ 222

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530-SAVE

NOW TAKE BOTH SAVE GROUPS, AND SORT LOW TO HIGH......013358...MAKE INTO PAIRS...01 03 05 08 13 15 18 33 35 38 58 ...

The less digits in the SAVE GROUPS

The less ...MAKE INTO PAIRS

That's the refining power of this workout

Reply #7

Blackapple — Wed, 06 Apr 2016 00:21:43 GMT

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082-SAVE

+ 222

---------

204-SAVE

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002248= 02 04 08 24 28 48

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Reply #6

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:47:55 GMT

Obviously the less different save numbers

the easier the pickin

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/297547

Hammertime Idaho Predetermined digits 0 or 9--3 or 5-- 12/29- 01/01

Mon, Dec 28, 2015 5-8-4 3-2-7

327

+584

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801

- 111

=====

790-SAVE

+222

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912-SAVE

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01279 = 01 02 07 09 12 17 19 27 29 79

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Reply #5

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:31:46 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/300811

Short sum 5, 0 or 9 and New York 3/5-3/8

Fri, Mar 4, 2016 2-3-1 0-6-6

231

+066

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297

- 111

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186-SAVE

+ 222

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308-SAVE

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01368 = 01 03 06 08 13 16 18 36 38 68

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Here's what we know my key digits are 1-6-8

Tue, Mar 8, 2016 2-4-3 8-5... [ More ]

Reply #4

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 14:19:55 GMT

Obviously the less different save numbers

the easier the pickin

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/297584

Root sum/Short sum 4 or 6 Alert Connecticut 12/30-01/02

Tue, Dec 29, 2015 2-8-3 6-6-4

283

+664

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847

- 111

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736-SAVE

+ 222

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958-SAVE

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356789 = 35 36 37 38 39 56 57 58 59 67 68 69 78 79 89

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Reply #3

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 13:30:02 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/301926/

Missouri Lottery 4/1-4/4

Thu, Mar 31, 2016 0-2-9 9-7-6

976

+029

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995

- 111

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884-SAVE

+ 222

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006-SAVE

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004688= 04 06 08 46 48 68

Here's what we know my key digits are 1-6-8

Mon, Apr 4, 2016 9-5-6 4-1-4

Sun, Apr 3, 2016 6-4-4 6-8-1

Sat, Apr 2, 2016 4-6-4 3-0-9

Fri, Apr 1, 2016 6-3-9 1-8-7

Reply #2

Blackapple — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 13:18:53 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/302033

New Jersey,New Jersey lottery 4/4-4/7

Sun, Apr 3, 2016 2-7-5 9-2-8

275

+928

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193

- 111

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082-SAVE

+ 222

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204-SAVE

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002248= 02 04 08 24 28 48

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Here's what we know my key digits are 1-6-8

Mon, Apr 4, 2016 8-0-7 0-2-6

Reply #1

tre 01 — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 10:46:48 GMT

thank you it works for michigan back testing so far three pairs have fallen

Goseahawks -111/+222..and observation high pair chart

Goseahawks — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 01:37:12 GMT

Goseahawks MINUS -111, PLUS +222 SYSYTEM, using LOTTO MATH

Take the last 2 hits, add them together. Once added, subtract -111 from it, (keeping) your

results. Now add 222 to your result, while maintaining your original results. You should end

up with 6 digits. Now wheel those 6 digits into,(2) digit pairs. Within 5 days, one or more of those pairs will show. NOTE!!, SOMETIMES THE ENTIRE FUTURE COMBO, IS WITHIN THE 6 DIGITS, WITHIN 5-7 DAYS ...THIS THEORY ALSO WORKS FOR THE PICK 4. ON... [ More ]