doubles

Reply #39

lakerben — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 01:54:44 GMT

Excuse me? You have mail

Reply #38

winsumloosesum — Mon, 04 Apr 2016 01:16:29 GMT

The thread is about doubles. Laker does it really matter if someone posting in this thread looks similar to a previous member.

Drop it

Reply #37

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 18:35:25 GMT

Laker, I'm sure your cashier is some kind of lotto wizard so your sig means a lot. Btw its just plain 27%. No decimals. 270 combos out of 1000 possible. Not really that complicated.

Reply #36

grwurston — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 18:30:25 GMT

I did that research for the period of Feb. 2005- Aug. 2011 in my state. The percentages I got may have changed since then, but that's what it was at the time.

Reply #35

lakerben — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 17:23:34 GMT

The one good thing is that reading endless banter helps me sleep.

Reply #34

winsumloosesum — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 16:50:02 GMT

Tracking doubles since that is what the entire thread is about. Removed all trips and singles.

Reply #33

ArizonaDream — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 16:45:09 GMT

What were we supposed to see there? Other than it was about time for a double to show up? What are your Z and AB columns tracking

Reply #32

gunjack — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:55:51 GMT

thanks for the input everyone

Reply #31

lakerben — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:19:08 GMT

Yes it looks that way.

Reply #30

Wisconsin3054 — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:08:00 GMT

The standard deviation doesn't necessarily change what I'm looking at, the future. Standard deviation will have the potential to be greater the smaller the sample size. The problem is, there isn't a way to predict which way and to what degree standard deviation will go until you've seen it. The only thing you can say is that in the future, the probability is that 27% (there are 270 doubles combinations out of the 1000 possible combinations) of the draws will include a double. The farther out you... [ More ]

Reply #29

SWMcCaig — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 12:58:01 GMT

Whoa, I like the Excel sheet! Is it something that is available for download anywhere

Reply #28

Deo-nonfortuna — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 11:23:50 GMT

Hey Dick Tracy, I also recognize the font size (gets bigger to illustrate a point) and the text color green Win D favors.

BTW, Win D has become the LP version of Elvis with numerous sightings recently.

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Reply #27

Tialuvslotto — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 11:00:08 GMT

The median skip of P3 digits is 2, so 50% of the time the DD should be a digit at skip 0,1, or 2 (ie, hit in the last, last 2 or last 3 draws). The other 50% of the time the DD will be a digit with a longer skip than 2.

Reply #26

adobea78 — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 00:53:01 GMT

We're all aware of the most powerful tool in statistics- THE STANDARD DEVIATION, we seem to forget when we quote percentiles. Your 28% of doubles may have a percentile range of 24-32 , how do you factor this in selecting picks or waging

Reply #25

adobea78 — Sun, 03 Apr 2016 00:33:43 GMT

Is probability, hence parametric percentile a predictive tool or a waging strategy? If you subscribe to premise of the game, then I guess Forward-testing should be your approach. Parametric stats are facts with underlying nuances.Understanding this is the key to selecting picks, saying doubles occurs 28% is a statement of fact(The sky is blue, but blue has different shades).

Reply #24

Wisconsin3054 — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 23:25:06 GMT

Nope Edibs3, the fact that doubles might hit alone 5, 6, or even 7 times in a row will not cause me to think any differently about playing for a back to back doubles. I still believe the probability of a double showing would be 27%. If I'm playing doubles I'm playing doubles. I'm not doing it based on what yesterday's or the last 7 days draws were.

Where are the overwhelming odds you are talking about

Reply #23

lakerben — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 21:37:28 GMT

Is this Wind? I recognize the lingo .

But what does it matter when/if a double hits? Its what you do with it. Do you make pairs with the factors of the double. Do you break down the numbers like my previous example. Now that is how you win not.

If not just endless banter about percentages and nothing. I'm spinning in circles. There is a 88% chance of the sky falling if you look hard enough.

If you want a real logical percentage in the lotto it's 100% either you win or lose. All these... [ More ]

Reply #22

grwurston — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 21:31:26 GMT

I did some research a few years back. 72% of the time a double will be a digit that has no more than 3 misses since it last hit. 63% of the time it will be a digit with 2 misses or less. This was over a 5 1/2 year period using 640 and 649 doubles on mid and eve respectively.

Reply #21

Tialuvslotto — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 20:50:52 GMT

73% of the time the Double digit will NOT be a repeat from the previous draw. 27% of the time it will be a repeat. So you can eliminate the 3 digits in the last draw and be right about 7 times in 10.

Reply #20

Edibs3 — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 14:59:42 GMT

Very nice MD breakdown ALX.

One thing that might be something. Actually, it's a Pretty tall filter stack. A 50/50 Combined that is.

The last 6 doubles 50/50 have all been mostly/to All outs. Hurts a couple of our normal assumption filters I know.

012(34567)89 that 017 seven digit is an IN digit. Looking like a good repeat digit too. Darn it. LOL

Always seems to be a trend current going back the other way isn't there?

* If it's any consolation ALX, call me superst... [ More ]

Reply #19

ALX — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 13:20:14 GMT

052 last nite...no double, but there is a 2

22 is out 128 day games

17 even numbers in first position out of 20 last day and nite games

92 front pair out 248 day games

22 will play soon, so I would play it with an odd first number until it hits...

122 322 522 722 922 and especially play 922

gl

Reply #18

dr san — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 07:47:58 GMT

Hello you can split 0-9

30% = 30% 1,2,3 4,5,6 and 40% 7,8,9,0

A = 1,2,3

B = 4,5,6

C = 7,8,9,0

Ab, ac, bc

Example 478 bc = 47

other =

249 = ab 24

Reply #17

Edibs3 — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:40:20 GMT

It's all perspective Wis3054 . There is nothing new under the Sun.

Now, admit something. The next time you see 5,6 or even 7 of the last doubles that hit were all alone and standing there as single doubles, what then? What will you think about then? The next time a double hits. Standing all by it self.

That's right. You are going to think about playing for a BK to BK double. You bet. If not, then you're in the wrong forum. Because this is a betting tool. Betting requires risk. In t... [ More ]

Reply #16

Wisconsin3054 — Sat, 02 Apr 2016 00:28:54 GMT

Ok. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you have not intentionally distorted the math here. Although you were careful with your language at the end so I suspect you did.

Your last statement is correct. About half of the doubles will be touching.

That is very different than saying doubles will repeat about half the time. But you already knew this, didn't you?. What you were talking about earlier was the probability of a double coming after a double, which is the only way it... [ More ]

Reply #15

lakerben — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:28:18 GMT

Nm p3 is all over the map with 484,778,666 etc. I look at the gaps,pair sums etc when I decide to use pairs. Sometimes it's more of flow thing than a actual percentage. Consecutive numbers sometimes trip doubles but a good way to see if you have lmh numbers.

I look at what doubles can produce and not to get to caught up in that a double happened in the first place.

Example

Nm 818, now I add and get sum of 17.

What adds up to 8 since it's a part of the double. 4,4, 1,7, 2,6, 3,5... [ More ]

Reply #14

Edibs3 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:17:59 GMT

Still unsure of yourself Wi3054 ? That's OK.

Wi eve had 111 doubles in the last 366 draws. Thats 30.33 % of the 366.

Of the 111 doubles at night, there were 27 occasions of Bk to Bk (or more) doubles in a row.

If you have to consider that it took at least 2 doubles to effect those numbers then 2x 27 is 54 doubles! That's not even counting the times you had 3 or 4 doubles in a row.

How many times in your world do 54 doubles go into 111 ? That's right.

During a years time in mos... [ More ]

Reply #13

grwurston — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:13:40 GMT

Not playing tonight but would go all even, or all odd. High dbls have hit 4 in a row, may switch back to low. Tough call on that.

Reply #12

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:05:05 GMT

Or, you could just use the truth in your apparent statements of fact.

I looked back a few months in Wisconsin and the eyeball test looked like around 1 in 4 or so.

Is there a state that has come close to half in the past year? Over 45% or so would probably cause me to take a closer look at it.

Reply #11

Edibs3 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:54:07 GMT

You know Wisconsin3054, you simply have to start off your post with a little softer, Je ne sais quoi

Otherwise, your fellow members might begin to think of you as a crude interruption, and as someone bothersome and perhaps even a little rude.

By the way, don't look now but you might have actually misunderstood something. You and everyone in the world knows 27% blah blah. Now, you can learn to work it out for yourself or count how many times this happened in WI.

So Wis3054, do you a... [ More ]

Reply #10

grwurston — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:53:21 GMT

Here's what I do. I track even, odd, low, high. That is what the DOUBLE is, NOT the number itself. I also track what kind what kind of combo the double is in 4 categories. Examples,

All even /odd double, 448, 266, 155, 377

ghost pair double, 114, 225, 366, 811, 699

consecutive pair double, 112, 334, 566, 788

mirror pair double, 055, 116, 277, 338, 499.

Also, whether the lowest digit in the combo is 0,1,2 or 3,4,5,6,7,8, this is almost a 50/50 split. (Props to WIN D)

You can do... [ More ]

Reply #9

dr san — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:31:03 GMT

Hello jung so the doubles pairs = 0,2,4,6,8 are 10 pairs or so odd

1,3,5,7,9 are 10 doubles in 75% or even double or DUAL ODD

In the three positions = 1.2 1.3 2.3

Reply #8

Edibs3 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:29:44 GMT

Oh brother Maryland Eve.

One thing is for sure with 10 EVEN 1st position digits stacked up like that only ODD digit anythings fit tonight. Including doubles.

Takes out any EVEN doubles shots for me at least.

Reply #7

Wisconsin3054 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:27:29 GMT

*Half the time a double hits another double will hit.

This statement is just not true. It's about 1 in 4 (27% probability to be exact).

Reply #6

winsumloosesum — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 22:11:33 GMT

Tell me what your doubles picks will be tonight for Maryland

1 Combined Draws at 13 draws without a double

2 Longest out doubles 66,22,44,33

3 Longest out 2nd digits 1,8,5,0

4 Longest out short sums 1,7,9

My picks for tonight: Limited budget play the highlighted short sums only 1,7,9

661,668,665,660

616,686,656,606

166,866,566,066

221,228,225,220

212,282,252,202

122,822,522,022

441,448,445,440

414,484,454,404

144,844,544,044

331,338,335,330

313,383... [ More ]

Reply #5

Edibs3 — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:58:08 GMT

Doubles hit around 99/100 times a year.

Approx 22+/- or so times they will hit in pairs. Tells us about 44 or so doubles hit in at least pair groups.

*Half the time a double hits another double will hit.

Bk to Bk double frequencies is a interesting thing to study

About half the time a double hits a digit will repeat from that previous double.

The moral here is, to take a stand and go with it every time. Don't chase back and forth.

Reply #4

winsumloosesum — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:54:07 GMT

This was Tennessee Morning drawing today:

Can you see any possibilities before today's morning drawing

Reply #3

winsumloosesum — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:45:12 GMT

One thing I left out was that Ohio Midday had 7 straight odd numbers in the 1st position.

Again all of this is after the fact but worth looking at when deciding on whether doubles are due to hit.

Reply #2

ALX — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:41:29 GMT

I check them out for my state in the Systems/ Pairs Analysis and list all 10 in order of most due for both day and night. Its surprising to see how they rotate from most to least due. Since we know a number that is out for maybe 6,8 or more games is likely to return as a double or hit once or twice and then double in order to catch up a little, we can compare it to the Pairs Analysis due doubles results. History also shows that the double number can often be a repeat from the game before so we h... [ More ]

Reply #1

winsumloosesum — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 21:32:50 GMT

You were correct in thinking a double was going to hit since it was 8 draws without a double

Look at what 3 or 4 doubles that is out the longest. Before the midday drawing today it was 33's 88's 22's

Look at the 2nd digit that makes up a double set. Find the longest out skip. In the Ohio midday it was 1,5,4,6

Look to see how many consecutive odd or even doubles you had. Ohio midday had 5 straight odd doubles. So this would give you the 22's and 88's to play.

Next you can go back and... [ More ]

doubles

gunjack — Fri, 01 Apr 2016 20:03:36 GMT

question, how do you pick the correct double, for the pick 3? I just sensed that ohio was going to have a double for the midday draw. unfortuanately, i wasnt able to clearly see which double to use.