Do you believe every combination has the same probability?

Reply #595

Soledad — Mon, 21 Nov 2016 00:30:28 GMT

New York had,

11/10 (mid) 3146

11/11 (mid) 3146

11/15 (mid) 0220

11/15 (eve) 0606

11/19 (mid ) 5121

11/19 (eve) 5221

A little more consecutive, New York's annoying as heck. That's a double double back to back with two zeros in both. That's just for the past week.

Reply #594

grwurston — Sun, 20 Nov 2016 17:15:25 GMT

To put this in a little more perspective, here are the total 4 consecutive series #'s for the entire YEAR. This is just Md EVE.

1983 - 3 Eve P4 Started May 5

1984 - 10

1985 - 8

1986 - 5

1987 - 5

1988 - 12

1989 - 7

1990 - 9

1991 - 6

1992 - 12

1993 - 5

1994 - 7

1995 - 16

1996 - 14

1997 - 7

1998 - 3

1999 - 9

2000 - 9

2001 - 13

2002 - 10

2003 - 11

2004 - 6

2005 - 9

2006 - 10

2007 - 7

2008 - 8

2009 - 9

2010 - 4

201... [ More ]

Reply #593

grwurston — Sun, 20 Nov 2016 06:17:06 GMT

Here is an example of what are called completely random drawings by the Maryland lottery for this month, all on the evening in Maryland.

And the month isn't even over yet...

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Nov. 9 6475

Nov. 10 1230

Nov. 14 5746

Nov. 15 7546

Nov. 16 3645

Nov. 19 7456

Reply #592

Soledad — Tue, 08 Nov 2016 17:52:25 GMT

135 skips I believe total. Great attention to details Carbob. Very good call. Thanks and Congrats!! 112 Midday

Reply #591

Stack47 — Mon, 07 Nov 2016 21:44:08 GMT

Player only need one combination to win (the winning combination).

It's starting to look like we have many different ideas of what probability is. It's a fact one combination will be drawn but there is a very tiny probability any one of these millions of combination will be the one. With over 275 million combinations against that one combo winning, in reality it has a snowballs chance.

Even though the probability/odds are 1 in 326, every now and then I play a 4-minute Keno 4-spot. There i... [ More ]

Reply #590

Soledad — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 02:04:13 GMT

Woman denied $43 million jackpot Top Story here right now.

Machine malfunctioned. Malfunctions make all pays and plays void.

See everybody? Testing makes the game more fair.

That is crazy though.

Reply #589

Lucky Loser — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 23:15:31 GMT

You'd be correct for the most part and playing all the combos would be considered 'insurance' in my way of thinking, although, I wouldn't be doing that. I never used the word 'possibly', I used the word 'guarantee' because mathematical accuracy would be the insurance guaranteeing the win. Big difference there. The MIT students wouldn't have been able to get those deep pocket investors to front all that money with talking about 'possibly winning.' They showed it to them in real time and I know th... [ More ]

Reply #588

Soledad — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 23:09:37 GMT

I suppose the saying what's the matter for me might be said. Yeah I put that up for others to see and didn't get anything. Fine. But I can laugh and shake my head. It's happened before, I'm sure it will happen again. Too many numbers..I'm sure you can at least understand that side. I'm not really tryng to push anything. I will never doubt my system for New York. It's the only place I ever played. Maybe if I focus on just my stuff only again, I'll be able to be more patient and see only what I ne... [ More ]

Reply #587

Lucky Loser — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 22:56:49 GMT

This is a much, much better answer than the way you were going earlier. I still slightly disagree with a portion of it, though, because it's dependant upon a couple of things. When I was speaking initially, I meant from a pure money is no object systematic math-based approach. We all know, though, it ain't gonna happen like that and it'll be pure luck IF one of us were to ever match all those numbers on just a couple of tickets.

Reply #586

RJOh — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 22:39:26 GMT

Averages play a big part in the process of elimination and timing therefore every combination would not need to be played to give a person a good chance at winning..

Player only need one combination to win (the winning combination). Most players picking their own combinations whether picking one or a thousand are trying to do. That's what I'm trying to do when I play a few lines and I've only come close twice in my life when I matched 5of6 in Ohio's 649 game. The last time it happened in 201... [ More ]

Reply #585

Lucky Loser — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 22:31:07 GMT

Soledad, I get it that you're attempting to apply a form of math which is vastly different than mine to arrive at what you believe works. Fine, okay, but you're still falling a day late and a dollar short with all this back dating non-sense. Look, you had all your 735X- +/- (4) business seemingly ready back on the 30th of last month, right? All you had to do is simply play the combos which were nudging you with 735X from then until now and YOU'D HAVE YOUR STRAIGHT! What the he11 are you waiting... [ More ]

Reply #584

MoneyMike$ — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:59:27 GMT

If I had the money, resources, and logistics to accurately get all my play slips printed, I guarantee that I could hit at the right time with intent...no luck or hope needed. There has only been one person here at LP that actually 'get's it' when it comes to proper number crunching and they're no longer here as far as I know. If he had the money, he could knock off a jackpot, too...guaranteed.

On a mission like this a jackpot game would be more of an elimination game than any of the games..... [ More ]

Reply #583

MoneyMike$ — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:55:12 GMT

To make such a statement is to say that in fact there are combinations that would be sought after as more 'likely' to win in such a project.. I think that would be the idea of the mission.. IMO all combinations would not be present in such project.. The project would be to make a profit a preferrably a large one.. When people say they possibly would win if they had enough resources to do so whatever they define that as in their own minds would vary from person to person

Reply #582

RJOh — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 20:15:06 GMT

If I had the money, resources, and logistics to accurately get all my play slips printed, I guarantee that I could hit at the right time with intent...no luck or hope needed. There has only been one person here at LP that actually 'get's it' when it comes to proper number crunching and they're no longer here as far as I know. If he had the money, he could knock off a jackpot, too...guaranteed.

The only way to guaranteed a jackpot win is to play every possible combination and today's lottery... [ More ]

Reply #581

Lucky Loser — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 19:47:41 GMT

I guess we will never be on the same page!

Well, with some things we are while with others, we're lights years apart which is fine for the most part. However, common sense is involved surrounding this game which entails numbers and odds and a corresponding cost to play those numbers. When you say that math has no place in the game, it's ludicrous.

If I were playing the lottery as a 'job' or 'income stream'

Okay, cool, you're not a serious player, you just like to tinker with numbers an... [ More ]

Reply #580

Soledad — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 18:19:40 GMT

Look at the number 7354 Lucky Loser and all I suppose. Think about what I was saying and talking about. Seriously. NEW YORK MIDDAY WIN 4 NUMBER-----7358. My math is good. That good. No matter what anyone thinks. That's a prime example of how I know. Salute

Reply #579

Soledad — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 17:26:54 GMT

Unfortunately, the truth to this conversation is does 1,2,3,4,5,6 have the same chance of WINNING than any other combination. I guess it's no surprise that some people will just laugh at this topic and not consider it seriously in any way. Because the only thing people care about is whether someone WON or NOT. What they see...People will forever be entangled in that web, until someone shows them something they can see that they didn't see before. And like the allegory of Plato's Cave, their reac... [ More ]

Reply #578

Soledad — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 17:14:13 GMT

Intuition or instinct is the best tool to use. I always heard from other LP posters that other LP posters were helpful to each other. Still love my Dream Team they're the best. The only reason I ever stayed here. I will say though thanks for the lessons on patience, budgeting, and focus Lucky Loser, it is a very valid point that I have been forced to think about and look at seriously enough times. Enjoy your games to all or in the cases of some enjoy your comments. Pencil and paper is no differe... [ More ]

Reply #577

bobby623 — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 16:53:00 GMT

Need to clarify when I play.

I use the Day drawing results to generate plays for the Evening drawing.

I generate a new set of integers for each drawing.

I have used the Morning draw history for Day plays, but not very often.

Reply #576

bobby623 — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 16:26:58 GMT

Lucky!

I guess we will never be on the same page!

If I were playing the lottery as a 'job' or 'income stream', I would no doubt have a wall full of charts with arrows going up, down and sideways.

But, lottery gambling is entertainment in my world, in lieu of a lot of other options.

I know I may not ever have a significant win, but that's OK

Do you keep track of how much you spend going to the movies, buying a hamburger, etc??

You can never recover those expenses.

When I buy... [ More ]

Reply #575

Lucky Loser — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 15:37:41 GMT

Not bragging or looking for a pat on the back, but anyone who can win Pick 4 four times in less than a month is doing something right.

Yes, it is good if a player can win four times in a month but, this is also a case where all the numbers matter when discussing a win. As I said before, how long, how many plays, and the cost of each play wagered will reveal the true performance of your 'substitution method' without any error. I think maybe I wasn't clear enough on the type of math needed to m... [ More ]

Reply #574

Sunglasses — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 15:37:31 GMT

Anyone who can manage game history is ways that identify potential winners without the use of 'lottery math' is on the right road.

You mean LP-math. Do not mix mathematics with bimbo mathematics. You know what I mean.

Reply #573

Sunglasses — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 15:36:02 GMT

Reply #572

Sunglasses — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 15:32:53 GMT

There is some truth in there.

Yes, math-based strategies do provide good results - some of the time.

Wow, that was short.

Reply #571

Soledad — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:26:01 GMT

Texas Morning #'s and Day #'s 10/27/16----844 and 796.

844 + 796 = 530.

5+3+0=8.

8+5= 3.

330. Final number from those two.

30 Back pair showed 10/28/16 Day number (X30)

330 showed straight Evening numbers 11/1/2016.

That happens all the time, everywhere. It's always the first number.

NY-10/27/16 Day Eve #'s---826 and 459.

826 + 459= 275.

2+7+5 = 4.

4+2 = 6.

675 Final number from those 2.

Midday 10/28/16--657 is the winning number.

A going away present... [ More ]

Reply #570

bobby623 — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 13:00:18 GMT

Anyone who can manage game history is ways that identify potential winners without the use of 'lottery math' is on the right road.

Not bragging or looking for a pat on the back, but anyone who can win Pick 4 four times in less than a month is doing something right.

We all know that the only folks who win more than they've lost are the jackpot winners, or the corporations (Steve Player) having deep pockets.

I'll use the winnings to pay for future plays, but I know the 'win streak' won't... [ More ]

Reply #569

MoneyMike$ — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 03:16:21 GMT

Math can be useful but is it necessary? I feel math can steer you toward a win or away just as any other methodical approach. Math becomes technical/complex while only leaving room for only one answer at a time at it's core with the slightest error leading to an incorrect calculation or answer. Using math to predict something that has no beginning or end in concepts we use can possibly make no difference at all in winning. In a number game where there is always a variable or second guess as to t... [ More ]

Reply #568

ElinaSammy2081 — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 02:56:52 GMT

Lucky is right by the time I win in the numbers game I am making back what I invested on the losing tickets yes I am happy I won but it doesn't make a difference. Why I continue playing because I enjoy it its my hobby and it keeps me entertained I use everything to try and get a winning number some days it works other days it doesn't and that includes using vtracks, math, lottery math, one up one down, and substitution from Bobby charts graphs pyramids I use it all and do it all and I still get... [ More ]

Reply #567

ElinaSammy2081 — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 02:49:26 GMT

Exactly the person who won the jackpot and didn't use a quick pick and got lucky, or spent $300,000 to win or the MIT group of students. There has to be a winner that has a pencil paper system, or made their own program, there has to be one of those is just that they are not going to share it for fear maybe there is a jackpot winner in LP who has a system will that member ever come out maybe let's hope so.

Reply #566

RJOh — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 02:19:49 GMT

Then I'd suggest one of two things. Either go back a page or two and search the link provided about the MIT students' mathematical and financial approach

I'm familiar with the MIT students logic. It wasn't math but money that enabled them to win a game that normally required 6of6 to win was changed to 5of6 to win the jackpot during its roll down as the couple from Michigan proved several times by buying $300K worth of tickets. There is no way in a regular game matching 5of6 in a game that re... [ More ]

Reply #565

Lucky Loser — Wed, 02 Nov 2016 00:04:59 GMT

Today, millions of people are betting millions of dollars on the mistaken premise that there is a mathematical solution to successful lottery play.

There are mathematical solutions to every single lottery-type numbers game out there and this is a fact. Heck, the lotteries use mathematics to stack the odds against players, okay. They didn't just sit down and say, Hey, let's drop ten marked ping-pong balls into three different chambers, draw one ball from each, and who ever matches all three nu... [ More ]

Reply #564

Lucky Loser — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 22:57:49 GMT

What is needed is a jackpot winner to explain what he/she did or didn't do to win his/her jackpot.

Then I'd suggest one of two things. Either go back a page or two and search the link provided about the MIT students' mathematical and financial approach, or, look up one of them and ask them to provide some insight on specifically what they did....and they will oblige you. Trust me on this. Two ways will get you to your jackpot, both of which are extremely tough. One, a very prompt labor of lu... [ More ]

Reply #563

Sunglasses — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 20:58:37 GMT

For what I've read, nothing was boiling my interest. I read a once in a while a short like anonymous correct mathematical statement, but that is like one out of 10000 posts on LP.

Reply #562

RJOh — Tue, 01 Nov 2016 19:36:52 GMT

So far all the opinions and theories posted prove nothing either way, it's a case of the blind trying to lead the blind. What is needed is a jackpot winner to explain what he/she did or didn't do to win his/her jackpot.

It might not clear things up but it would make the conversation more interesting.

Reply #561

Stack47 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 20:47:17 GMT

It's difficult to tell by wording it slightly different if you're agreeing or disagreeing.

simple conditions like if 3 or more of the 15 numbers they picked are drawn, they get at least one 3 number match.

Only if they play enough combinations to have all possible sets of 3 on at least one ticket.

Every 3 if 3 of 15 number wheel I played match 3 numbers on one line when 3 numbers were drawn.

That makes it a bit expensive to chase that 3 number match, especially since the odds of... [ More ]

Reply #560

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 19:11:18 GMT

This actually relates to his topic. While it may take me a very long time to understand Werner Heisenberg and I'm not saying I will.This is insightful and relevant to this topic. So perhaps this is the step that it needs to be taken back to. There are other sides as well. But the point is believe what you want to believe. You can only prove yourself right or wrong. Salute and have a good day. At least I hope. Yes I honestly do.

Reply #559

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:53:57 GMT

Lol. I never claimed to be an expert at anything. What I know is what I know. I can only do my best if it's not good enough so be it. I don't care really. Because I tried my best. Most people start playing based on hmm what should I play? I just heard from someone look back and that person said now do you see this well I would bet this and this. I just took it from there. My way of playing is my way of playing. It's based on 1 + 1 stuff. But to all of you, can you deny that 1 + 1 is 2? I didn't... [ More ]

Reply #558

bobby623 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:11:12 GMT

You folks are really beating this topic to death.

Suggest you step back and consider the possibility that there are no correct answers.

The odds of winning a game are clearly stated on the back of most play slips, and in official lottery literature.

Most lottery gamblers know that the chances of winning a significant prize are not very great, but that doesn't deter anyone from trying.

Personally, I never consider the odds.

I don't play the predator jackpot games not because of the... [ More ]

Reply #557

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 05:25:13 GMT

Ok I'm sorry but,

Math has nothing to do with how probability works

Probability theory is a branch of mathematics. And math concepts are theories. Once again Probability theory is a branch of mathematics. Is there a question here? Are you trying to prove something by saying this. Otherwise I think you're mistaken not in theory.

That's fine that you only believe in one side. But that is not the way lotteries have ever been viewed ever since they were created thousands of years ago. Su... [ More ]

Reply #556

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 04:35:10 GMT

Despite popular delusion

I don't know what that's supposed to mean

What is that supposed to mean

Anybody with a reasonable understanding of math would know and understand what that means. Is it not easier to have numbers on balls instead of faces or pictures. Isn't 1..2..3 much easier to understand than cat..dog...cat. It doesn't matter what's on the balls, it just matters that they can be followed. That's what that means. And I am quoting here..and I do agree. Anything further than... [ More ]

Reply #555

KY Floyd — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 04:25:37 GMT

Why does it matter why or how a player chooses their numbers when the bet is conditional?

The entire point is that it doesn't matter how you choose your numbers. The lottery is a random event, so no matter how oyu choose your numbers your chances are determined solely by the odds of the game.

And the chances of 15 QPs winning something or a 15 line wheel winning something are exactly the same.

That's why you don't get any improvement in the odds by using a wheel. Do you think all of... [ More ]

Reply #554

ElinaSammy2081 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 03:26:35 GMT

Every combination has the same probability but the Numbers game in New York is a hard state to predict, I remember this poster his name was Lottoking he asked someone who states they were the best predictor to predict New York and this LP poster ignored him and than accused him of trolling. It's easy to point fingers and mistakes but every state is different and what works in some states does not work in other states. Soledad is very helpful and nice in the New York dream team and she is always... [ More ]

Reply #553

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 02:54:24 GMT

6 is easier than 5. Less costly too. Thank you CarBob. I believe you 100%.

Reply #552

ElinaSammy2081 — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 02:53:11 GMT

@Soledad

The random part to me is when they come out and in what order. That to me is random, otherwise I would've conquered NY in less than a year.

Reply #551

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 02:21:33 GMT

Eh my math with dollars, it's late am getting tired. I could tell you how I saw the 4 number too. 6475. But what's the point. From my experience with the way I come up with numbers. If something happens and that's an if with a lot of same calculations but with different answers because each new number drawn adds a different answer etc, then the possibilities of something else being connected with that in the same way are very high. Sometimes instead of moving forward though with the new numbers,... [ More ]

Reply #550

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 01:52:00 GMT

The things I need to learn and remember after this year are 1. Patience 2. Budget and 3. Focus

Those are my flaws. It's as simple as that. And as frustrating also.

And Yes Lucky Loser I did play all those numbers that I posted.

I understand your point. You're right. It just gets confusing to me. Front pair Rear pair. $2 10 or 20 numbers. That's an extra $10 or $20 on top of the $20 already paid. Order etc, 911 or 119. I do understand your point and it is something that needs to be focus... [ More ]

Reply #549

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 01:47:54 GMT

If you must know why I played 519. It was because last week 657 +694 = 241. Well last week, I had 694 as one of my 6. So this week I added all my new 6 to the last number 337. And I chose the number 282. 282+337=519. But last week I also had an 832 number. I also had a 525 number under the 694. 694+525=119. 832+337=169. There's that old flip and mirror switch. With a lot of connections. Yes looking back I can say this. And yes I probably should've played it, and yes shame on me. I am stubborn. B... [ More ]

Reply #548

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 01:40:29 GMT

I posted a stacks like this

1 0 7

2 8

6 9

9

And I said 83 pair in the morning.

Nighttime I played only 2 numbers 275 and 7792.

And the 572 I put up first thing in the morning for both PA and NY. And it showed up in PA reversed straight. Everybody on the Dream Team knows I put those 6 numbers up for the whole week for both NY and PA. And I always play them straight and reversed straight if and when I play them.

There's more to it in my opinion than just coming up with wi... [ More ]

Reply #547

Soledad — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 01:31:33 GMT

Validate

Dude are you kidding me? Validate? I posted on The NY Dream Team run by Mrsd446 this morning. 519. I also said that the 83 pair should show. And it did 833 tonight. But I wasn't expecting a double 3 after 337. I said 227 days ago. 337 came. I also said today before the evening draw that I saw 277 in p4. Tonight's pick 4 number was 5727. I played 7792. You must be kidding. I'm like that day to day. Yes I know I play and win on pairs a lot. But when I play 20 numbers or so. Sometimes... [ More ]

Reply #546

Lucky Loser — Mon, 31 Oct 2016 01:21:32 GMT

Today I played 519 in NY. it was 619.

Okay, this is good if you actually played the number but, there's a lack of evidence to validate your playing it...and it's that you aren't talking about how you matched REAR PAIRS. New York pays for PAIRS. Did you play the PAIRS OPTION? If not, SHAME ON YOU! Also, New York has their CLOSE ENOUGH option where you can be ONE NUMBER OFF...and you were one number off with your (5) in position #1. Did you mark the CLOSE ENOUGH option? If not, SHAME ON YOU! I... [ More ]

Reply #545

CARBOB — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 18:34:57 GMT

Soledad , have you ever followed the strings of a cash 3or play 4 lottery. Lets use string 123456 as an example. In the last 100 draws one of those digits have appeared. For that string to break, 3 of the missing digits have to appear. Look very close at the draws for NY, how many draws don't reach 100. Does that not prove the draws are not Random? If you see that string around 100 skips, start betting on the missing 4 digits. Ny Mid 356789 is at 124 skips in which one of those digits have been... [ More ]

Reply #544

Soledad — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 17:21:46 GMT

The hard part I guess to understand is the difference between looking at something you can see vs. looking at something you haven't seen yet. You're (general) always looking in the past to show you something that will or may or can occur in the future after the present. But one can not say with 100% certainty. And humans in general over their lucky entire existence have always looked at what they see because they can define what they see. One doesn't automatically look at or for what one doesn't... [ More ]

Reply #543

Soledad — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 16:52:16 GMT

Ok ha. I put that up there for you, because we argued a little bit. I had a feeling you would be curious about me saying this. lol

Anyhoo, look I believe in using laws and formulas to get winning numbers. I do it all the time. Today I played 519 in NY. it was 619.

AND the win 4 number, I won't even talk about it. But I can tell you from that, that I do know of another one that will drop this week. I just don't know when etc.

I believe that anyone who says that the balls are just balls,... [ More ]

Reply #542

Lucky Loser — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:53:56 GMT

The other is that the lottery is completely random

Okay, just purely for fun and validation, what is the definition of random? I'd like to compare and contrast the definition with what the lotteries do.

nothing you do can improve your chances.

I'll respectfully disagree with you on this but, it's limited to what game is being played. Due to the matrix, the average player can do nothing to 'strategically' improve their chances with the jackpot-type games. But, as illustrated elsewhe... [ More ]

Reply #541

Soledad — Sun, 30 Oct 2016 01:02:06 GMT

There are two sides to this coin. One is that mathematical laws and formulae support the analytical perspective. The other is that the lottery is completely random and nothing you do can improve your chances. If one needs to ask why something works, well it works based on the laws of mathematics. The values of the numbers represent foundations of math; numbers. That is what is needed to comprehend. Numbers.

I have systems that work. But updating your data file with each new number that is dr... [ More ]

Reply #540

Stack47 — Sat, 29 Oct 2016 00:27:57 GMT

They may acknowledge it, but I've got a perception that most don't actually understand it.

It's probably obvious to everybody else by acknowledging it's a conditional bet, players do understand it. When Roulette players puts a bet on the Red and the number is Black they understand why the dealer takes their bet.

Wheels are the most obvious example. The supposed improvement in odds of any given wheel is always offset by the limited chance that the conditions of the wheel will be met.... [ More ]

Reply #539

RJOh — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 20:28:45 GMT

There are probably more 5 digits strings that have never been drawn but that doesn't mean none of those 5/5 will ever happen. I would be surprised if the next drawing isn't a 5/5 that never came up before.

Reply #538

CARBOB — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 19:57:37 GMT

In the Florida Pick 5, there are 2 7-digit stings, where 5/7 digits have not been drawn. All of those who claim the past has no effect on future draws. Do any of you believe that 5 digits will never be drawn from those 2 7-digit strings

Reply #537

bobby623 — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 17:27:32 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/307879

I guess I'm just lucky!

When you are arranging and rearranging cubes according to a specific plan, there's a chance you could

place the winners at the end of the columns!

Have a good day

Reply #536

KY Floyd — Fri, 28 Oct 2016 06:01:28 GMT

If anyone does really use past results to predict future results successfully, don't expect them to spend time trying to explain what they are doing

I don't care whether or not anybody explains what they're doing. I'd just like to see some of the people claiming that analyzing past results enables them to pick future winners would explain why that works. As I said previously, the only way that analysis of any kind (including substitution ) could allow successful prediction of future results... [ More ]

Reply #535

adobea78 — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 21:38:27 GMT

First of all, maths is not a belief. Maths concepts are theories, theories are fact until disapprove. The irony is the use of ' substitution' which is a mathematical term, yet you negate the power of mathematics. Maths is everything in our daily routine, you may not recognize it, but it's there. Lets take the math equation E=MC2,

to the average person, is just a 'mumbo jumbo', forgetting this theory has shaped our lives. Probability is a simple math concept, a powerful tool in realm of stati... [ More ]

Reply #534

Stack47 — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 19:14:12 GMT

If anyone does really use past results to predict future results successfully, don't expect them to spend time trying to explain what they are doing at LP.

I believe Floyd was talking about future results not being controlled by past results as if somebody here believes one drawing has a physical effect on the next drawing or the next 100. As for using past results, successfully is the key word.

We can use probability to get a good idea of what to expect in the next 100 drawings or we can... [ More ]

Reply #533

RJOh — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 15:12:46 GMT

Many such websites have started, failed and disappeared over the years, some even advertised at LP when they first started.

Reply #532

Soledad — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 13:03:22 GMT

Good point. I don't feel the point of playing is to prove to others that you can pick a winning combo. It's to win money. So if you win, hats off for sure. And if you don't, well so be it. You're in good company. Anyways, stats are fun, but real is real.

Reply #531

Sunglasses — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 11:58:11 GMT

Showing winning systems here and posting predictions is not paid. Websites went online and offline.

Reply #530

RJOh — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 08:50:45 GMT

Then feel free to explain how the future results you're betting on are controlled by the past results.

If anyone does really use past results to predict future results successfully, don't expect them to spend time trying to explain what they are doing at LP. Just look at the many LP posts labeled My system is working , I have yet to see anyone posting such a thread to have a prediction stat showing they have ever done better than the overall average for the games they predict.

Reply #529

Stack47 — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 04:33:07 GMT

Then feel free to explain how the future results you're betting on are controlled by the past results.

Nobody can control future result without cheating, but they can use past results to form a system. Most of the real players acknowledge they are making conditional bets that are not much different than betting on roulette numbers.

Reply #528

bobby623 — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 03:45:40 GMT

One thing for sure - there are many opinions about how to win.

I revealed part of my methods in an earlier post in response to KY Floyd.

This particular thread has about run its course, as far as I'm concerned.

I participated, perhaps more than I should have, to demonstrate that you (generic) can win without the use

of complicated mathematics, magic, mumbo jumbo and luck.

I think I made my point.

Winning any prize should be celebrated, regardless of the method used.

So, I wi... [ More ]

Reply #527

Lucky Loser — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 02:20:49 GMT

It amazes how you math folks always use the exceptions to try and prove your beliefs.

The Virginia and Mass incidents were pulled off by folks who went to great lengths and expense over a long period of time.

Wrong. This wasn't an exception but, rather an example with proof that the compilation of math, finances, and resources netted this group consistent lower tier wins over time. Ultimately, they banked enough money then figured out how to win the entire jackpot in a single shot...and we... [ More ]

Reply #526

Soledad — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 01:43:31 GMT

Hey bobby,

Yes winning a lottery game is hard. It is not easy. I play for fun for the most part. But part of me likes more of a challenge. Using numbers to me is a challenge. Maybe it's all the crap that I had to go through in school. Whatever the reason, that's just how I do things. And I do post all the time how I do it. I don't feel the need to post a winning ticket. While I have fun here on LP and have 'met' interesting people, I don't feel any need to prove or validate what I say or do.... [ More ]

Reply #525

bobby623 — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 01:23:41 GMT

It amazes how you math folks always use the exceptions to try and prove your beliefs.

The Virginia and Mass incidents were pulled off by folks who went to great lengths and expense over a long period of time.

Everyday lottery gamblers don't have the smarts and financial resources to take advantage of the weaknesses of a lottery game, even if they

know of the possibilities.

Who knows, maybe there are groups of people who are currently exploiting or trying to exploit other games that w... [ More ]

Reply #524

Lucky Loser — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 00:42:43 GMT

I'm sure the same thing would happen in other states if a scheme of players with $400,000 were beating the odds and consistently making a profit was exposed.

You got that right. Also, this is the same reason why any player with a truly successful Pick 3/4 system ain't gonna be running around touting how they do it. I don't care if it's state side or online, successful gamblers are a high risk. The formula here is exactly as you've outlined, and, I've also shared the same gospel in the past. T... [ More ]

Reply #523

Lucky Loser — Tue, 25 Oct 2016 00:03:15 GMT

Thank you, Stack, and you actually piggy-backed on my point(s) regarding the average player not possessing the funds to actually master some of these medium-sized jackpot games. There are players that possess the math skills to properly pin point what it takes to win a given jackpot but, it's a lack of funding and ticket printing resources which becomes the limit. My main point for sharing that was to illustrate how if math and money could master that particular game which had way more combinati... [ More ]

Reply #522

Lucky Loser — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 23:32:18 GMT

Skill is required to win on small games

That's one of the stupidest things I've seen here. You honestly believe that in a game with odds as low as 1 in 1000 or 1in 10,000 can't be won through simple probability and luck? Have you ever even heard of quick picks?

Sure, I'll give you this one...it's actually my mistake. I intended to insert the word 'consistently' between the words win_on. People most certainly do get extremely lucky but, that luck is often far and few between while varying... [ More ]

Reply #521

RJOh — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 22:16:41 GMT

Massachusetts Lottery commission didn't care because their mission was to sell as many tickets as possible and when it became obvious that players with only a few dollars were going to quit playing the game and reduce sales they eliminated the game.

I'm sure the same thing would happen in other states if a scheme of players with $400,000 were beating the odds and consistently making a profit was exposed.

Reply #520

Stack47 — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 21:13:55 GMT

There was an effect on the Massachusetts Cash WinFall game profits, but because it was positive, the lottery people looked the other way. The overall problem was the same as when an Australian syndicate bought all the tickets in the Virginia Lotto game; they tied up lottery terminals preventing others from playing. Because of that the Virginia Lottery and many other state lotteries created new rules preventing a group of players tying up terminals. But just like the Michigan Lottery, the Mass Lo... [ More ]

Reply #519

bobby623 — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:50:56 GMT

Here we go - again!

Insults and $2 will get you a cup of regular coffee in my town!

There is NO MAGIC in my workout, no 'mumbo jumbo' or any kind mathematics, except for

some kindergarten arithmetic where a User has to count to '8'.

Instead of analyzing a game matrix en masse, as 99.99 percent of lottery gamblers do, I use the power of substitution to divide most lottery games into 3 major parts.

Each part is then divided into 3 sections, A, B, and C.

I then analyze PREVIOUS GA... [ More ]

Reply #518

KY Floyd — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 16:50:22 GMT

I don't have any magical forces guiding my lottery activities.

Then feel free to explain how the future results you're betting on are controlled by the past results. Maybe you can't wrap your head around it, but the only way that analyzing past results can increase your chances is if those past results have some kind of affect on future results. Unless perhaps you think there's some magic fairy that can control lottery results and occasionally rewards your hard work.

all the theoretical... [ More ]

Reply #517

Soledad — Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:37:11 GMT

Unless you can get it Straight every single time. There's no way to deny this.

Reply #516

eddessaknight — Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:25:51 GMT

Timeless classic observation:

Observe the measure,for right timing is in all things the most important factor!.

~Hesiod, Ancient Greek Poet/Philosopher (he could handle a pair bones very well

Eddessa_knight with invisible

Reply #515

Ricklou — Sun, 23 Oct 2016 11:28:27 GMT

A Big NO

Reply #514

Lucky Loser — Sun, 23 Oct 2016 00:02:13 GMT

Skill is required to win on small games but, luck is needed when specific prerequisites aren't met. The same applies to jackpot games IF one has the funding and mathematical skills along with ticket printing logistics resources. Consequently, the average person has neither of the three on either style of game, or, is afraid to risk the money. Every bit of any number-based lottery game is derived from math and, therefore, requires math to be truly successful over the long haul. When you number cr... [ More ]

Reply #513

Soledad — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:42:02 GMT

One plus one is two. That's my only theory. It's the first theory I was ever taught and it still holds true to this day. In mathematical terms it's written as 1+1=2. Lol. Not startin' nothin', but I am serious.

Reply #512

bobby623 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:30:17 GMT

You obviously have no tickets to demonstrate how odds, probability and percentage helped you choose winning integers for any lottery game.

Seems all you have is a bucket of theoretical 'mumbo jumbo' of your own making.

Can't believe you think people win lottery games by magic rather than hard work. Maybe that's because you don't know what hard

work means.

I don't have any magical forces guiding my lottery activities.

What I do have is a substitution workout that generates rational... [ More ]

Reply #511

KY Floyd — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 22:03:30 GMT

would you please demonstrate how 'odds, probability and percentage' can produce a winning permutation/combination.

The only thing that produces a win is getting lucky enough to have the winning numbers. I know that a lot of people here have a delusion that past results have some kind of magical effect on future events, but they don't. Posting a winning ticket, regardless of how you chose the numbers you played, proves that you got lucky, not that you somehow made an accurate prediction based... [ More ]

Reply #510

Soledad — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 18:42:40 GMT

This is true Stack. 100%.

Reply #509

Lucky Loser — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:30:41 GMT

Hey, that's nice a nice bump, bobby, and congratulations my man!! Let's see...

knowing where a game has been is the only way to know where it might be headed.

Yes, sir, I agree with you 100%. It's interesting, to me, that your 4-1-9 and 2-1-4 combos had already forecasted in the 10/19/2016 evening pre-testing.

Reply #508

Soledad — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 17:25:38 GMT

True. In terms of the article you posted about how many losses it took to get to that win. I'll always believe that 1 big win will eliminate dozens and dozens of bad losses. Otherwise I really wouldn't play.

I believe still that if you put a value on such a thing as a random ball. Then that value then has weight. It carries with it meaning. As long as I have 4 or 7 or 10 or 14 draws to look back on, that is all I need to use to find further significance in those values. Those are principles... [ More ]

Reply #507

Sunglasses — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:26:00 GMT

Reply #506

Sunglasses — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:17:57 GMT

Do you believe every combination has the same probability? ...

I believe that people who believe live in the Vatican. But, again, some or more of those if not all just don't believe at all. Looking at your question, you're not a graduate. You may want to talk to a bachelor in mathematics.

So, Todd should move the question to the mathematics forum. He will or won't. Probability says that he will, but history will tell you that he won't.

Good luck with guessing

Reply #505

Sunglasses — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 15:10:13 GMT

Here is copy of my recent $200 Daily 4 win where I used game history, ie previous draw results, to select integers having best chance of

winning.

I don't want to know about best chances of winning, but why did you choose integers over float

Reply #504

bobby623 — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:51:48 GMT

With all due respect, would you please demonstrate how 'odds, probability and percentage' can produce a winning permutation/combination.

It's easy to post a copy of tickets, if any.

Here is copy of my recent $200 Daily 4 win where I used game history, ie previous draw results, to select integers having best chance of

winning.

Theory is good but in lottery gambling knowing where a game has been is the only way to know where it might be headed.

Thanks for your interest.... [ More ]

Reply #503

KY Floyd — Sat, 22 Oct 2016 05:36:13 GMT

there is no specific answer to the question about consecutive numbers.

The answer depends on what the question is. I'm assuming the question about consecutive numbers was meant to suggest that such results are less likely than other results, because of the imaginary significance of the relationship between the numbers. There are two possibilities for a specific answer. One is to provide an exact answer about how many times that has actually happened, but there are a lot of different games wh... [ More ]

Reply #502

Stack47 — Fri, 21 Oct 2016 22:55:07 GMT

All combinations got the same probability. On the other hand when it comes to consecutive numbers. How often do we see 5 or 6 consecutive numbers?

That's because there are other probabilities that can be applied to every combination. For instance the Combo 1-2-3-4-5 also has 3 odd and 2 even numbers and that 3 and 2 ratio represents more than half the combos. IMO there are just too many MM and PB combinations and that makes most filtering useless.

With pick-3, flip a coin three times head... [ More ]

Reply #501

bobby623 — Fri, 21 Oct 2016 21:03:15 GMT

Hello, Lucky

I use the power of substitution to guide my lottery gambling activities.

Therefore, almost all of the information in this thread is of no value to me.

I use the individual integers in the official winning permutations/combinations to drive

my workouts.

All lottery data bases are generated by human interpretation of game results, not by dumb as dirt lottery machines having no memory.

You have made it abundantly clear that you believe the pretests should be accounted... [ More ]

Reply #500

Lucky Loser — Fri, 21 Oct 2016 15:24:01 GMT

it's wrong to throw out odds, probabilities and percentages based on theory, rather than real world results.

Actually, I feel somewhat insulted when I read postings telling me that there is xx percent of something happening, but no comment on how many revolutions the projection is based on.

I couldn't agree with you more on your statements but, this one particularly resonates with me. Yes, you and I have slight disagreements on pre-testing and that's cool. But, if one really thinks ab... [ More ]

Reply #499

bobby623 — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:28:02 GMT

IMHO, there is no specific answer to the question about consecutive numbers. Anything can happen and probably will when we least expect it.

As for 7.13.26.30.42.

Depends on which side of the mixing vessel you are standing.

In a new, never before played game, the combination could arrive one time out of xxx Theoretical revolutions, or drawings, depending on the game matrix.

When the game is placed in a mixing vessel, the situation changes.

There is only one 7.13.26.30.42, but it co... [ More ]

Reply #498

Lucky Loser — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:25:26 GMT

Well, here's a link to a pretty heated discussion about odds, combinations, and probabilities. I saw where my points were validated several times.

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/137361/2

Reply #497

KY Floyd — Wed, 19 Oct 2016 04:33:46 GMT

How often do we see 5 or 6 consecutive numbers?

About as often as we'd expect to see them if they had exactly the same chance of being drawn as any other combination. MM and PB have about 259 and 292 million possible combinations of which 71 and 65 have 5 consecutive numbers.

How often do we see 7, 13, 26, 30 and 42

Reply #496

RJOh — Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:15:50 GMT

Isn't it obvious? If you make a list of the last 2000 or more drawings of any pick3 or pick4 drawing you'll notice several combinations have hit several times while others have never hit at all. I suspect the same would be true of jackpot games if the list was long enough. A player would just have to find the uniqueness of the groups of winners and he could improve his odds of winning.