Pick 3 Holy Grail

Reply #67

Jayhawk58 — Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:45:08 GMT

It is missing sum 8 for the singles but not doubles. You know I use the 3-4 rundown and these are based off pairs it gives. The only combo's for sum 8 were doubles. I reduced to using only combo's with 3,8 and 4,9. They were the dominant vtracs. As you see I did get 3 combo's to fall. then It switched to 7's which were in the rundown but not dominant. That happens sometimes. The base workout shows that I would have gotten the 179 and 757 if I had included them. I removed the 179 because it was i... [ More ]

Reply #66

SWMcCaig — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:08:06 GMT

Am I missing something, or is your sum chart above missing sum #8

Reply #65

SWMcCaig — Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:58:26 GMT

I like the way you think

Reply #64

Jayhawk58 — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 15:11:10 GMT

Sorry this has taken a little while, it was a weekend. I have family and church, too.

The gauntlet was thrown down......I said I could do it, Not just one combo, but a group that could be reduced and pay consistently a small profit. A poster expressed interest, I used his state. By the way, this does NOT take 3 hours. Does require some ongoing tracking, and familiarity with how a state plays. Yes, each is different. Don't think so, just ask around.

What I do is create a base set of combina... [ More ]

Reply #63

mmx1 — Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:01:50 GMT

Longest outs for this evening:

xx3/xx4 - Eve/Night:

xx5 - Combined

Missing Digit Pair EqPair Double Single Pos1 Pos2 Pos3 AllEvOd AllHiLo EvOdHiLo ShortΣ RootΣ

AR4 66-187

ID4 6-21 66-154

IL4 22-161

MD4 3

MO4 7

NC4 55-166

OK4 1-67

ON4 05-120 33-244

PA4 21

PR4 1-16

QC4 0-16

TX3 7-22

TX4 6-15

WC4 89-133 8

WI4 1-62

WV4 00-173

Missing Digit Pair EqPair Double Single Pos1 Pos2 Pos3 AllEvOd AllHiLo EvOdH... [ More ]

Reply #62

grwurston — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 23:39:54 GMT

You can filter down so you don't have to play all 20 combos. If you want, you can also do All Low or All High numbers also. You'd be surprised how often all 4 of these hit.

Since AE,AO,AL,AH are dirty numbers, just track when clean numbers and dirty numbers hit and you'll know when to play.

Reply #61

Nygator85 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:42:07 GMT

Wow grwurston ! u were right watch all even n odd crazy I missed it picked wrong all even course cause all odd came few draws ago NY mid 240

Reply #60

garyo1954 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:30:51 GMT

Missed the where he is from part. Now I feel like a real dummy.

Also: There were 108 draws for December *typo

Reply #59

rcbbuckeye — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 18:01:08 GMT

I figured he was talking Texas because of 100 draws a month, and his location is Hurst ( the Mid Cities between Dallas and Ft Worth).

I did some quick math also and quickly realized this is not a money making system. Frankly, because there are 4 draws a day here, it's very, very difficult, if not almost impossible to realize a profit playing P3 in Tx, especially if your just playing boxed. The cost of playing 4 draws will eat up any winnings. And focusing on one or two draws means you could s... [ More ]

Reply #58

lakerben — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 17:17:12 GMT

Wow

Reply #57

garyo1954 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 16:55:58 GMT

Looked it up this morning. If this is your Holy Grail, you have cobwebs in your pocket.

You're talking Texas since Texas is the only state to my knowledge that has 100 draws a month, or thereabout. (In December there was 106. Ten of these 20 combinations hit. )

If we start playing 20 numbers on December 1, we have 17 draws before the first box hit of 026. We're out 16 * $20 (-$320), but we win $80!

Now we let the numbers sleep, use 12 draws since that's between 10 and 15.

We hit on d... [ More ]

Reply #56

Soledad — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 12:05:38 GMT

I believe in using at least 1 digit from the last 3 draws. I almost always play like that. In terms of doubles though, I tend to always think of a digit that has been out for a longer period of time as showing up double. I think that that is still true for the most part. And for the most part, yes what you say is exactly true. When 1 digit from the last 3 draws doesn't show, I call that reshuffling . It happened a little more than usual last year in NY. And it's happened once so far this year wi... [ More ]

Reply #55

CARBOB — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:45:52 GMT

The numbers on the left represent the number of digits, P1P2P3, that repeat after one to six draws. Look how after 3 draws the odds of two digits go down. I am thinking it is almost a 50/50 chance that if you choose two digits from the first 3 draws, there is a good chance it is a box winner.

In Fl the last 3 draws digits are 01258, create 10 box combos.

012, 015, 018, 025, 028, 058, 125, 128, 158, 258

20 box dbls

001, 002, 005, 008, 011, 112, 115, 118, 022, 122,

225, 228, 05... [ More ]

Reply #54

Soledad — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:35:37 GMT

I'm trying to understand your chart. you know I do only pencil and paper workouts. I mean I do use a calculator too. Are those the digits on the left and times that they've come out on the right. But why only 0 1 2 3. Sorry CarBob maybe you could explain just a little more

I suppose based on what I said the 0 stands out right

Reply #53

CARBOB — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:29:35 GMT

Stat from FLA Combined. Does anything stick out?

flcom

1draw PKG HITS

0 1000 378

1 484

2 13% 134

3 4

2draws PKG HITS

0 1000 141

1 442

2 36% 362

3 55

3draws PKG HITS

0 1000 59

1 296

2 47% 466

3 179

4draws PKG HITS

0 1000 20

1 214

2 45% 448

3 318

5draws PKG HITS

0 1000 8

1 133

2 41% 413

3 446

6draws PKG HITS

0 1000 5

1 79

2 36% 362

3 554

Reply #52

Soledad — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:26:21 GMT

I can. But only for Pick3 and only for my state (I should correct that I see them in Pennsylvania too). And it's always always always from past draws. And more than 50% of the time it's in the correct order too. The problem however from this get rich idea though is, from 6 numbers if played every day of the week that's 84$ spent a week. Not every single week 1 of these 6 shows, but if they don't show for 2 or 3 weeks, then you can bet for sure one will show the next one. And they do consistently... [ More ]

Reply #51

Nygator85 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 07:05:37 GMT

Yea we got all odd mid 719 an 078 evening dropped the 719 to soon always happens didn't carry from last night fell today just my luck I'm gonna be patient lol thanks for your advice

Reply #50

grwurston — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:52:04 GMT

All Even or All Odd numbers hit about every 8 draws. If someone wants to be patient and wait till they're due it could be a viable strategy. Since they often hit close together you can hit on 2 or 3 within a few draws.

Reply #49

Nygator85 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:47:19 GMT

NY I wanna see this some people have the ability and are good with workouts maybe can't predict all right numbers or we be rich but can narrow them down alot I'll take some advice n predictions plz

Reply #48

Jayhawk58 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:41:49 GMT

I think you're wrong. Yes, it is random. However, many of us believe that numbers are related. Give me your state, and I can give you a group of numbers that will draw. Just one particular one, no. But a group that is based on experience and trend, small enough group to make a profit, out of six draws, YES.

That kind of consistency you want?

Others have done this and no longer post here.

Reply #47

mmx1 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 06:23:55 GMT

Calm down, please. No need to be mad rude.

I don't need your help, just trying to understand your strategy and help others understand too.

I posted a new list to merge your explanation with the right list (E/O instead of H/L) and tell you that you applied your strategy wrong way on the list.

You should have started from the bottom, but your explanation is enough. We'll see if it makes sense.

Reply #46

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:56:57 GMT

Proof Positive Indeed. Thanks Amber, for your wonderful, constructive, contribution. (All the while he's thinking in a drunken stupor, Piss off you ungrateful bitch, and die .) Not really. Woo, woo, woo. Look it up.

Reply #45

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:53:28 GMT

Seems you're like the rest I've encountered. Can't address specific issues. I'm done here. Over the years I've developed a sense to know when to quit. Some people you just can't help, so I better get used to it soon. LOL

Reply #44

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:50:21 GMT

3 hour workout??? Let me shoot you. Any time spent on a workout looking at a previous draw is patently wrong. NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY, can predict the next draw from a past result consistently because it is random. So to answer your question, YES, they are indeed mad. I need to win consistently, not once every other month, losing countless dollars in between.

Reply #43

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:49:43 GMT

That one liner you posted doesn't explain why you wouldn't be mad if your number showed in a pretest. Not every time, but enough to raise a red flag. But again, we'll never know right

Reply #42

Lottomeister — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:47:02 GMT

yes. from what I believe as a mathmatician.

Reply #41

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:44:31 GMT

I know, busy guy doing programming.

Reply #40

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:42:32 GMT

No. Test spins have no bearing.

So you're saying that it makes no difference If a combo shows in a pre-test that the bettor was hoping would show in the official draw based on his/her 3 hour workout, and the person who bets on that combo for a week is wrong for being mad?

Before you say that can't happen...we'll never know right

Reply #39

garyo1954 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:35:57 GMT

Don't remember that one. Hadn't had time to think much about it. Working on some programming, peeking in from time to time.

Reply #38

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:32:18 GMT

No. Test spins have no bearing. Any throw has no bearing on the next. It's a fallacy to think that any chance result has a bearing on the next chance result. I would never, ever, put my cash on one specific result based on a previous result, unless the odds, and a specific technique based on a statistical advantage, gave me an edge.

Reply #37

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:24:56 GMT

So do you agree hat if they did start test spins that they would go out of business? This is like my 4th attempt to get a straight answer. It's a yes or no. If it's a no, explain what part of what I write concerning this particular issue is wrong.

It's a no brainer, do you agree or not, and why not

Reply #36

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:22:06 GMT

No, I got banned for wishing an LP member ill will, only because he was just as rash. I may be wrong on the event and timing, but not wrong on the event, just the timing..

Reply #35

garyo1954 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:12:37 GMT

I remember pacattak and joker17. Didn't joker17 get banned for posting every pick 4 combination as a prediction in some hootnannies thread

Reply #34

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:12:11 GMT

MMX,

I already played it out.

What specifically do you not understand?

I'm feeling a sincerity in your question and want to help, hurry. What is it you do not understand????

It might be another 10 years till I attempt a check in...

Reply #33

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:09:02 GMT

snip . How hard is it to get a real conversation with a statistician? Well, not here. All the real life winners don't have a minute to spare. I joined this forum in 2006, I gave my blood, sweat and tears today. Piss on if you will or read between the lines and join me on the golden road.

Perhaps I'll check back and reply, perhaps not. My gift is a promise I made and it's done.

Cheers!

Lee

This post has been automatically changed by the Lottery Post computer system to remove inapprop... [ More ]

Reply #32

mmx1 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 05:00:28 GMT

This is O/E from the same state instead of Hi/Lo posted before.

The odds are the same, but this one is for your strategy.

Actually a new draw is on top and the oldest one at the bottom of the list (IL combined).

1. 909

2. 747

3. 107

4. 883

5. 948

6. 728

7. 113

8. 337

9. 745

10. 611

11. 946

12. 718

13. 692

14. 016

15. 605

16. 068 (068)

17. 037

18. 543

19. 361

20. 555

21. 437

22. 106

23. 651

24. 981

25. 046 (046

Reply #31

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:55:27 GMT

I never said that Amber dear. If they performed test spins I've never seen it.

I'm beginning to think a lot of people reading this are thinking the same thing I am, You can't fix stupid .

Not that you are stupid dear loving Amber, just your ideas on how to beat Pick 3 are stupid, won't work and never will work...

Reply #30

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:48:41 GMT

I can't change my Handle mid stream.

Reply #29

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:46:07 GMT

In four years I never seen a croupier throw a test spin.

You call that addressing the issue? Why do you think they haven't performed tests? I already said why, because they'd go out of business the same day they introduced this new rule. Yet the lottery officials get away with it. Explain this....

Reply #28

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:41:22 GMT

It's 10:26 pm here guys and my old friend Jim Beam is starting to fog my mind. Please let us continue if your willing....

Reply and I'll reply, maybe we can come to some type of understanding.

Amber, Gary, Ben have comments and I really what to answer all of you.

Amber. OK you are not a female. What's your name then? I'm Lee.

Draws are random. They are and always will be, random. Pre-tests, or the previous draw, have absolutely no bearing on the next. Google gamblers fallacy , it's v... [ More ]

Reply #27

lakerben — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:37:41 GMT

How about Bad hombre! Thats a good one

Reply #26

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:32:19 GMT

How about changing the amber to you must be kidding or Barney!

Say again...lol

Reply #25

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:31:08 GMT

Yes, I knew there was one more but I forgot. I blame Jim Beam and pot growers of America

Reply #24

lakerben — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:28:41 GMT

And onlymoney.

How about changing the amber to you must be kidding or Barney

Reply #23

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:22:06 GMT

This person means well, just a little confused like i was with that other thread and had the biggest brain fart of my life...lol

BTW...Todd already exposed me, but not publicly. I'm not a female. I'm Pacattack05, Joker17, and amber123.

I'm only still here because of Todd's grace, and agreeing to play nice. ...lol

Reply #22

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:16:24 GMT

Playing a 15% group that you MAY THINK will show is a bad idea in my opinion, because in the real world where there are no pre tests, it could be possible, but what you think is overdue may have already showed in the pre-test. This is so crucial yet so many just don't understand.

And you're right because when you apply that theory to tons of numbers, it usually ends up ruining your day, or week trying to chase something that already may or may not have shown, you can't make a wise decision o... [ More ]

Reply #21

lakerben — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:05:34 GMT

This system make no sense. Just bet a Ton of even ,odd, until you win

Reply #20

garyo1954 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:04:29 GMT

Wait a minute! You're the one who is positive about what he says, you should be willing to give her 100:1 odds.

I guess you're not very positive of your theory. LOL

Reply #19

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:03:56 GMT

You're not obliged to agree with me, all I ask is for you to address the specific points I made and tell me specifically what parts were wrong. I really want to know because maybe I missed something...It does happen in my life...lol

You still haven't addressed the part about machines breaking when they use other machines anyways.

You still haven't addressed the Casino scenario.

And I'm sure if I wanted, I could think of a myriad of other anomalies.

Reply #18

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 04:00:28 GMT

OK?? I think?? Good luck to you too Amber123, may every $1 that goes into the convenience store till bring you $10 from the lottery claim center.

Lee

Reply #17

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:55:45 GMT

No, won't take you on because you're lumping 100% sureness on my part about the triples, with less sure win on individual numbers winning in the same position. The latter is much more apt to happen than the triple, and that's why I went from 100 to 10 bucks...

Pre-tests are just there to make sure the machinery works properly? Really?...So what do they do if the machine breaks, even after all those tests? They do the draw again using another machine....Why not just do that without the pres-te... [ More ]

Reply #16

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:52:09 GMT

It's about odds. What are the odds that what she states won't happen, actually will happen? Not Good, very not good.

So let's make it $30 then, that make you happy? I'll pass on any thing lower. I have a small chance at 30 to 1 to prove random will kick your ass.

Reply #15

garyo1954 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:46:01 GMT

Amber's proposition would be a stupid bet on your part, yet you offer amber the same stupid type bet.

Put up $100 of you dollars against amber's $1 if you believe what you say.

Reply #14

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:37:19 GMT

So I take that it's a no. So sure your right but not so sure to make a real wager.

When you actually move cold hard cash from your wallet to the convenience store attendant and hold those tickets in your clinched fists your are wholly under qualified to speak of random. I have no intention in making a guess using yesterday's numbers when betting real cash. I need a sure thing, not a wish.

Pre-tests are just there to make sure the machinery works. There is a lot riding on every draw, millio... [ More ]

Reply #13

lakerben — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:27:53 GMT

Reply #12

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:25:31 GMT

Not true, when they perform pre-tests, random goes out the window.

Maybe it was just pure luck, but I doubt it because a couple of weeks ago I posted about 30 combos in the Texas p-3 forum for the very first time. Straight bets only, but had I played my imaginary bets st/bx, I would have won because I had the right numbers but the wrong positions. This happened the very first time, and I haven't posted since.

The Casinos don't do pre-tests. Can you imagine how fast they'd go out of busine... [ More ]

Reply #11

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:16:38 GMT

The game is random. That's why it's still around, it makes tons of cash for the operators. If I take one of your bets I'd be at a thousand to one odds, very dumb bet on my part. But what I would do is wager $1 on each of your bets and if I win you pay me $100. You still have really good odds of winning.

If you are so sure take the bet, $1 for $100. Great odds for a sure thing.

So, $1 815 drops in Florida's eve draw tomorrow.

Also, $1 that 8 drops in position 1, $1 1 drops in position 2,... [ More ]

Reply #10

amber123 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 03:05:58 GMT

It may be difficult to know what number to play in he next draw, but based on past results, I can bet you I know what NOT to play, so your assumption that paste results have no bearing is ignorantly false.

If you think I'm wrong, I'll bet you 100 bucks that in Florida's eve draw tomorrow, the combo 815 will not show straight, since it showed tonight as 815. I'll also bet you 10 bucks the 8 has a very low chance of showing in the first position, 1 in the second position, and 5 in the third pos... [ More ]

Reply #9

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 02:00:05 GMT

Sure MMX,

Draws 1 to 100 contain 5 all odds and 6 all evens.

They also contain 1 odd and 1 even that repeats within 3 draws.

100 draws are about 1 months worth. If the other 300 draws you posted are more, or less, the same I'd be worried.

If your 400 draws contained 22 odd and 22 even (11 times 4 divided by 2) you would have odd or even hitting 11% of the time, which is troublesome.

I would look for an odd or even to sleep for 12 draws then start betting. Or once I take the plunge... [ More ]

Reply #8

lakerben — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 01:43:21 GMT

Really?

I bet the trend.

I find that the previous draws do indicate what will hit. Vtracs etc. Nm eve 236 this week 213 hit.

Previous to the 615 hit I look at mirrors and adjacent numbers. Alas 666 hit straight.

Reply #7

mmx1 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 01:02:47 GMT

Can you show your play points on the above list and explain why you'd have played each one at that time and how many times to make a profit?

If you need more draws and different state let me know.

Reply #6

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:56:00 GMT

First thing I would count the evens and the odds and get a percentage. 400 draws is a little less than 4 months worth. I would look at 12 months. I'd want to know what the percentage is for each month, then compare how it changes over 12 months. That would give me an idea of how long to wait to start betting.

I would then look at skips, what percentage does a repeat happen within 4 draws. If the percentage is high enough I would parlay a win in hopes of snagging a quick win.

I play all odd... [ More ]

Reply #5

mmx1 — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:46:57 GMT

How would you beat this stats with L/H set on long term?

Is it time to play now after 28 skips or maybe tomorrow or wait until 40 skips and how long you'd play those 20 combinations?

1. 909

2. 747

3. 107

4. 883

5. 948

6. 728

7. 113

8. 337

9. 745

10. 611

11. 946

12. 718

13. 692

14. 016

15. 605

16. 068

17. 037

18. 543

19. 361

20. 555

21. 437

22. 106

23. 651

24. 981

25. 046

26. 981

27. 347

28. 892

29. 041 (01... [ More ]

Reply #4

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:38:02 GMT

Right?

22 posted results in my State so far this year and 9 draws have had doubles. 44, 88, 11, 77, 77, 99, 33, 55, and 99.

It's impossible to predict what's next so I just stick to what I know.

The first sixteen draws contained all odd, 975 and 375. So far, no even, time to start betting.

Reply #3

ALX — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:28:13 GMT

What about the steadily depressing, low down mind messing doubles

Reply #2

freestyle — Sun, 08 Jan 2017 00:18:18 GMT

1 star, come on MMX.

Consistent profitable winning in Pick 3 is not guessing a future draw based upon previous draws since all draws are random. There are a thousand possible combinations, what dropped yesterday has absolutely no bearing on what drops today.

The flaw in Pick 3 is embedded in the very nature of randomness. Just like Roulette, Pick 3 is totally random, past results have absolutely no bearing on future results. Thinking so is the definition of the Gamblers Fallacy.

Reply #1

freestyle — Sat, 07 Jan 2017 20:31:04 GMT

Forgot something....when looking at your States past results look at the skip totals. A lot of times an all odd or all even number hits again within 3 draws. It could be, for your State, that this event happens at a higher rate than 15%. It might be that on a win you double-down , take your win money and go for a quick parlay.

Pick 3 Holy Grail

freestyle — Sat, 07 Jan 2017 20:19:41 GMT

Catchy title, hum, could it be?

There is a draw event that is guaranteed to happen in Pick 3.

All odd, or all even, numbers. There are only 20 boxed combos.

ALL EVEN: (02468)

024, 026, 028, 046, 048, 068, 246, 248, 268, 468

ALL ODD: (13579)

135, 137, 139, 157, 159, 179, 357, 359, 379, 579

This guaranteed event happens 15% of the time, on average, per month in my State. Sometimes more and sometimes less.

If we look at the past results for our State from 2016 and find the p... [ More ]