Keno Rules

Reply #33

Sunglasses — Thu, 08 Jun 2017 16:52:01 GMT

You only need ten so you can play 1 to 35 only. Average 10 will be drawn, and sometimes more. You can also stick to 36 to 70. In case that you are still with the old keno, you can do 1 to 40. If you chase like 5/5, you have enough with a fourth of the numbers. You're stuck, so, step back to smaller.

Reply #32

Novan60 — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 22:51:38 GMT

You are missing my point. It is easy to isolate a pattern for less than half of the 10 digits. If I were only trying to target for digits I could just look at the previous drawing and pick 4 of those numbers as 99% of the time a minimum of 4 numbers will appear in the next drawing. Usually it is about 5-6 that rollover occasionally going as high as 8 and in extremely rare instances going as high as 10.

This is also why strategies of picking 20 numbers and hoping the winning combination of 10

Reply #31

DownandDirty — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 21:33:32 GMT

A long term strategy works. It's proven. Many players have won over time by playing the same numbers day after day. I change my numbers every day (in short) for good stategic reasons.

I merely suggest that you guys use the data (and it's interpratation) to develop effective stratgegys.

For example, datapiles study determined with certainty that around 4-5 numbers repeat each draw. Which numbers are those (amongst the 20 drawn) will those be? I have done extensive studying on that.

Why... [ More ]

Reply #30

Novan60 — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 18:46:14 GMT

The only strategy that is going to work to win a Keno jackpot is a long term strategy. You have to be willing to accept that there will be many drawings where there is absolutely no chance of winning.

While each drawing has 184,756 winning combinations there are over 1.6 trillion potential 10 digit combinations in 80/20 Keno. There are no patterns that occur which reduce potential number combinations down to a playable amount that appear on a daily much less monthly or even annual basis.

A... [ More ]

Reply #29

DownandDirty — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 07:44:09 GMT

I really appreciate what you are doing Datapile. I would really like to see you guys come up with some number selections methods based on these drawing consistencies I have observed long ago....as I have many.

The great thing about The NY Pick 10 is that there is no split of the jackpot. We all win the full amount on any draw.

Here is a fun truth.. Keno is the only lottery game where twice as many numbers are drawn as needed to win the jackpot.

There are many ways to break 70 or 80 numb... [ More ]

Reply #28

dr san — Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:34:08 GMT

ok, DATAPILE thank you

Reply #27

Datapile — Fri, 02 Jun 2017 04:59:55 GMT

dr san

If my math is correct, for Pick 3, the chance that a specific number would repeat in 1 or more of the 3 spots is 30%.

For Pick 4, it would be 40%.

Reply #26

Novan60 — Fri, 02 Jun 2017 04:21:32 GMT

Actually 0 -10 is 11 combinations, not 10. 1-10 or 0-9 would be 10. If you were to only play values between 0-5 then the number of drawings where you had no chance of winning would increase exponentially for each digit under 9 that was removed.

Reply #25

Datapile — Fri, 02 Jun 2017 01:48:11 GMT

Novan60... Taking 0-10 from a pool of 10 is 1024 combinations.

Lets say you were only ever going to take 0-5...That's 638 combinations. Apply the rules above, and you're down to 536.

So that's 84% of the trimmed down combinations (Taking 0-5)... with 97% overall accuracy.

Reply #24

dr san — Fri, 02 Jun 2017 00:26:40 GMT

Yes, it's like I told you again for pick3

000

A 999

E pick 4

0000

A 9999

Do you ask what approval you can not repeat the last digit for the next one?

Example

1st 2nd 3rd

4 8 1

Next

1 6 9 repeated digit 1 but not in the same position

It was raffled in the 1st while the last one was in the 3rd position

Reply #23

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 23:32:32 GMT

Make believe works for me- If you are Debbie Downer, then I will be Opal Optimist!

Let's see how I'm doing so far... Here are the number distances for Michigan Club Keno leading up to drawing number 1,234,567:

Num Dist

1 1

2 1

7 1

9 1

11 1

14 1

19 1

22 1

28 1

36 1

40 1

44 1

53 1

54 1

55 1

56 1

63 1

74 1

79 1

80 1

3 2

20 2

25 2

29 2

31 2

33 2

39 2... [ More ]

Reply #22

Novan60 — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 07:12:15 GMT

Not to be a Debbie Downer, but there is a huge difference between Sudoku and Keno. Those definitions in Sudoku make all of the difference in the world as it is a fixed target. It is much different when the target is constantly changing like they do in random games.

The odds for NY pick 10 are roughly 1 in 8.9 million based on 1.6 trillion different number combinations. Once enough rules are in place to limit the possible number of combinations to less than 9 million combinations you lose the

Reply #21

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 05:21:14 GMT

Rule 9- You will have 5 or less total from D10- DMax. 99.8%

Hits Chance

0 0.199957231929459

1 0.346228158717673

2 0.271764959886025

3 0.129230394758917

4 0.041436209566296

5 9.52449056489608E-03

6 1.64265145535206E-03

7 1.9733820330098E-04

8 1.787732852204E-05

9 6.8758955854E-07

Reply #20

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 05:18:10 GMT

Rule 8- For each of D10 to D13 Take 2 or less. The sum of these will be 4 or less. 99.7%

D10 Chance

0 0.681144094

1 0.267913771

2 0.046012118

3 0.004627478

4 0.000289475

5 1.23766E-05

6 6.8759E-07

D13 Chance

0 0.852371084

1 0.137607986

2 0.009621441

3 0.000393989

4 5.50072E-06

Sum(D10-D14) Chance

0 0.340267445

1 0.38604922

2 0.19744478

3 0.061291733

4 0.012845548

5 0.001875... [ More ]

Reply #19

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 05:08:17 GMT

Rule 7- From D14 - DMax, you will have 3 or less total. 99.9%

Hits Chance

0 0.614653496117869

1 0.306422911584234

2 6.88806592058616E-02

3 9.15112943460886E-03

4 8.4779792567982E-04

5 4.12553735124E-05

6 2.75035823416E-06

Reply #18

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 05:03:38 GMT

Rule 6- Pick 1 or none from each of D14 - D17, but end up with 2 or less. 99.6%

Total Hits Chance

0 0.718753867691267

1 0.241610032206695

2 3.61988398988968E-02

3 3.22754538778676E-03

4 2.0352650932784E-04

5 6.18830602686E-06

Reply #17

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 04:59:03 GMT

Rule 5- Take numbers from D18 and D19 (18 and 19 draws back, with no redraw)... Pick 1 or none. 99.7%

Hits Chance

0 0.935819703016318

1 6.23513087579657E-02

2 1.80423500160896E-03

3 2.40656345489E-05

4 6.8758955854E-07

Reply #16

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 04:50:25 GMT

Rule 4- Take all the numbers that have gone 20 draws (or more) without being drawn. Pick 1 or none. 99.7%

Hits Chance

0 0.918381744222185

1 7.86196777130221E-02

2 2.93394464629018E-03

3 6.463341850276E-05

Reply #15

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 02:18:53 GMT

This is for an 20/80 game...

Total Repeat Count % 1 In

0 306,556 36% 2.77

1 274,273 32% 3.09

2 158,589 19% 5.35

3 70,993 8% 11.94

4 26,209 3% 32.35

5 8,416 1% 100.74

6 2,159 0% 392.69

7 495 0% 1,712.77

8 109 0% 7,778.17

9 19 0% 44,622.16

10 2 0% 423,910.50

11 1 0% 847,821.00

Total 847821

As for the chance that a specific number will repeat...

Here are the chances for each number in each slot for 20/100

N1 N2 N3

Reply #14

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 02:05:23 GMT

I'll do you 56 better, retxx go look at https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/312219 Search for the Apex- The 61 possible numbers for each slot are ranked in descending order for each slot..

Reply #13

Datapile — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 01:55:41 GMT

You mean like the chance that a number will occur in any given slot?

N1 N2 N3 N4 N5 N6 N7

1 0.2

2 0.164705882 0.035294118

3 0.134759358 0.059893048 0.005347594

4 0.109491979 0.075802139 0.014037433 0.000668449

5 0.088299983 0.084767983 0.024452303 0.002415042 6.46886E-05

6 0.070639986 0.088299983 0.035319993 0.005433845 0.00030188 4.31258E-06

7 0.056024817 0.087691017 0.045672405 0.009743446 0.000843183 2.49832E-05 1.48709E-07

8 0.044019499 0.0840... [ More ]

Reply #12

retxx — Thu, 01 Jun 2017 00:47:02 GMT

i datapile,can you put this in a open office spreadsheet where I can input as many keno numbers from yesterday using your formulas output theory to come up with lets say the top 5 best #'s of the 20/80 game?thanks just a thought.

Reply #11

lottoswe — Wed, 31 May 2017 18:59:10 GMT

Hi,

can you do stats for lotto 7/35?

lottoswe

Reply #10

dr san — Wed, 31 May 2017 12:55:12 GMT

Hello, we can divide into 4 groups

Pp

Ip

Pi

Ii

Where (p) is the digit

Where (i) is odd digit

Example

Pp = 26 ..... initial digit is even and final digit is even

Ip = 36 ..... initial digit is odd and final is even

Pi = 49 ..... initial digit is even and final digit is odd

Ii = initial digit is odd and final is odd

So now we have 4 odd / odd conditions before we had two conditions or it was even or odd

In your lottery you have 20 numbers = pp 20 numbers ii 2... [ More ]

Reply #9

dr san — Wed, 31 May 2017 12:01:23 GMT

Hello, with reference to repetition in the same positions?

Example positions from 01 to 20

How likely is it to repeat the same number in the last draw in the same positions?

1st 2nd ......................................... 19th 2nd 2nd

Reply #8

dr san — Wed, 31 May 2017 11:24:03 GMT

Hello datapile very good job congratulations, thank you, man

Reply #7

Datapile — Wed, 31 May 2017 02:34:11 GMT

The process would look something like this:

Take the previous drawing, put it in a 20 cell array, The 431k repeat can be a pre-generated table with each record being 20 binary fields. When you combine each record of the 431k against the array, the output could be expressed as an 80 bit binary sequence:

Table Draw Output

0 N 0 in the Nth place of 80 bit sequence

1 N 1 in the Nth place of the sequence

all other places in the sequence could be blank, indicating that they are unknow... [ More ]

Reply #6

Datapile — Wed, 31 May 2017 01:59:56 GMT

Based on Rule 2 above, I can say that 99.4% of the time, between 1-9 of the number from the previous draw will be drawn again.

This results in 431,909 possible partial combinations, based solely on the previous drawing.

Taken From a Pool of 20 Chance Combinations Total

0 0.1% 1

1 1.2% 20 431,909

2 5.0% 190

3 12.5% 1,140

4 20.5% 4,845

5 23.3% 15,504

6 19.0% 38,760

7 11.3% 77,520

8 5.0% 125,970

9 1.6% 167,960

10 0.4% 184,756

11 0.1... [ More ]

Reply #5

Datapile — Wed, 31 May 2017 00:38:55 GMT

Rule 3: Look at it however you want, but you should be able to translate it easily back and forth.

Some people use binary, some look at decimal numbers. Personally, I'm partial to hexadecimal.

(As I begin to wade into middle age, I find I prefer the simple things in life more, and more. Trying to track 20 numbers out of a pool of 80 can get confusing fast... So I choose to take the easy way out- I'm not looking for 20 numbers from 1 - 80, I'm looking for 20 hex digits from 0-F.)

If we... [ More ]

Reply #4

Datapile — Wed, 31 May 2017 00:19:52 GMT

Here you go dr san For a master pool of 100 numbers...

If you are familiar with Excel, I will be happy to give you the formulas to generate percentage tables.

Taken From A Pool of 20 Chance

0 0.7%

1 4.3%

2 12.6%

3 21.6%

4 24.4%

5 19.2%

6 10.9%

7 4.6%

8 1.4%

9 0.3%

10 0.1%

11 0.0%

12 0.0%

13 0.0%

14 0.0%

15 0.0%

16 0.0%

17 0.0%

18 0.0%

19 0.0%

20 0.0%

Odds\Evens Chance

Reply #3

dr san — Wed, 31 May 2017 00:13:11 GMT

and lottery 100/20? please

Reply #2

Datapile — Wed, 31 May 2017 00:05:20 GMT

Rule 2: Out of a pool of 20, 1-9 numbers will be drawn. This holds true for numbers in common with the last (or up to 200 other) drawings, or pools of consecutive numbers (1-20,21-40,41-60,61-80). It can be used in roughly the last 200 drawings, as it has a .6% failure rate- once every 250 pools.

Taken From A Pool of 20 Chance

0 0.1%

1 1.2% 99.4%

2 5.0%

3 12.5%

4 20.5%

5 23.3%

6 19.0%

7 11.3%

8 5.0%

9 1.6%

10 0.4%

11 0.1%

12 0.... [ More ]

Reply #1

Datapile — Tue, 30 May 2017 23:55:55 GMT

Lets start easy:

Rule 1: There will be between 5-15 Odd and Even numbers.

Odd\Even Chance

0 0.00%

1 0.00%

2 0.00%

3 0.02%

4 0.16%

5 0.75% 99.62%

6 2.52%

7 6.35%

8 12.15%

9 17.88%

10 20.32%

11 17.88%

12 12.15%

13 6.35%

14 2.52%

15 0.75%

16 0.16%

17 0.02%

18 0.00%

19 0.00%

20 0.00

Keno Rules

Datapile — Tue, 30 May 2017 23:43:30 GMT

Sudoku has over 27,000 times more possibilities than Keno. 5 Years ago a simple Blackberry could solve an ultra-hard Sudoku puzzle in less than 10 seconds.

The only difference between a game of chance and a puzzle is that the puzzle has more defined rules.

So, lets go down the rabbit hole, and make some rules...

We're talking about a pool of 80 numbers, and 20 are drawn from it- That isn't the game, its the framework from in which we will work.

I don't need absolute certainties every... [ More ]