Jackpot or noth'in!

Reply #14

RJOh — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 03:52:13 GMT

Thanks, I see now.

Reply #13

adobea78 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 03:41:27 GMT

Referring to his selected time frame:

6915 drawings!?! That's almost 19 years! Sounds like a full-time job to me, but I examined the cards and noticed you can play 14 days in advance, so one trip every two weeks to play might not be too bad. Then again, $4465 for 19 years of work doesn't sound too great.

But, at least it's possible

Reply #12

RJOh — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 03:21:38 GMT

Where did that 19-20 years to cover all 575,757 combinations come from? RC5 is a daily game with a single drawing each day. 575,757/365 = 1,758 yrs.

Reply #11

adobea78 — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 03:07:24 GMT

Interesting, but probability does not equate betting. Probability pretty much depends on momentary data. Every draw of cash 5/39 has initial data of 575,757(actually is 39!/5, then 38!/4 ..., draw without replacement). Your assumption that each combo should be out within 19 years is plausible in theory(normal distribution curve)--You may have each of these combos hitting before 19 years or after 20 years !. A player looks for anomalies of the curve before waging. Initial data is critical before

Reply #10

Pinback — Mon, 17 Jul 2017 01:43:49 GMT

Yes, because I wrote the program to answer a single question. I don't know enough about lottery theory to even understand why the thing you just said is important or useful, so I never would have thought to code that as well. And considering the program took two solid days of computer time to run the first time, I'm unlikely to visit it again anytime soon. And I'm going to stop talking about it now to avoid any new ideas popping into my head that I'll have to devote another two days of computer... [ More ]

Reply #9

RJOh — Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:40:21 GMT

Is there a reason you didn't look at the winning combinations to see if there were any unique characteristics or patterns that might be repeatable? Like 466 of them had sums of 106 and 102 and etc.

Reply #8

Pinback — Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:59:27 GMT

Ugh... another typo! I'm getting old! Yep, the database started on 10/04/2004. Thanks for the correction...

Reply #7

RJOh — Sun, 16 Jul 2017 18:12:52 GMT

So I took every possible play from 01-02-03-04-05 through 35-36-37-38-39 and compared each of them to ALL of the existing Rolling Cash 5 drawings (4517 drawings from 10/4/2001 through 7/2/2017).

4517/365 = 12.4 Since RC5 is drawn daily, that makes it more likely your file started 10/04/04 same as mine, besides on 10/04/2001 Buckeye5 drew 01 07 11 28 31.

Reply #6

Pinback — Sun, 09 Jul 2017 09:30:11 GMT

Yep, just a typo. And it's two different numbers by the way... 6-0-1 for the evening draw and 6-1-0 for the mid-day. I did type that correctly!

Here are the actual results (databases from Lotto Pro software):

Evening draw (1/28/1997 - 7/2/2017):

My Numbers: 6 0 1

TOTAL DRAWINGS: 6915

TOTAL STRAIGHT HITS: 17 - $8500

TOTAL WON/LOSS: $1585

Mid-day draw (8/16/1999 - 7/2/2017):

My Numbers: 6 1 0

TOTAL DRAWINGS: 6120

TOTAL STRAIGHT HITS: 18 - $9000

TOTAL WON/LOSS: $288... [ More ]

Reply #5

Pinback — Sun, 09 Jul 2017 09:12:29 GMT

The database I use starts on 1/28/1997 for the evening draw and 8/16/1999 for the mid-day draw. I did make a mistake somewhere though, because I have 6915 drawings for the evening and only 6120 drawings for the mid-day. I might have just typed it wrong. I'll have to go check that out later today...

Reply #4

Stack47 — Sun, 09 Jul 2017 07:36:09 GMT

The Ohio Lottery started the then 6 days a week pick-3 evening drawing in 1979; almost 38 years ago. The straight combination 601 was first drawn on July 31, 1980 and was drawn a total of 25 times in the Evening Drawing and another 6 times in the Midday.

How could you be up anything in the Midday drawing when 601 hit six times in 6915 drawings

Reply #3

KY Floyd — Sat, 08 Jul 2017 21:56:32 GMT

it turns out that you CAN turn a profit playing Pick 3 in Ohio.

What you really mean us that you could have turned a profit, but hindsight is always 20/20. If we knew ahead of time what would happen if we played any particular set of numbers every day for the next 4517 combinations we'd turn a very nice profit.

Any chance you calculated the minimum and maximum cumulative loss for the Rolling Cash 5 to see how it compares to the game's probability? The odds of winning the 2nd, 3rd or 4th p... [ More ]

Reply #2

Pinback — Sat, 08 Jul 2017 20:15:46 GMT

Interestingly enough, it turns out that you CAN turn a profit playing Pick 3 in Ohio. But I'm not sure if it would be worth the work!

If you had started playing Pick 3 in Ohio from the beginning, $1 dollar a day on 6-0-1 straight, you'd be up $1585 after 6915 drawings. In the mid-day Pick 3 game, if you played $1 a day on 6-1-0 straight (interesting coincidence), you'd be up $2880 after 6915 drawings.

6915 drawings!?! That's almost 19 years! Sounds like a full-time job to me, but I examine... [ More ]

Reply #1

Todd — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 02:41:06 GMT

Interesting, that's a good idea/test, thanks for sharing

Jackpot or noth'in!

Pinback — Thu, 06 Jul 2017 00:58:27 GMT

I've been playing the Ohio Rolling Cash 5 game for years, and I recently started wondering if there was any single play (series of five numbers) that could be played every day (so just $1 a day being spent) that would, in the long run, win more than it loses (NOT including hitting the jackpot, which obviously would put me in the win column for good). Could I spend just $1 a day playing the same numbers each day and win more than I lose over the long run? Most people would just assume not, but be... [ More ]