Oregon Lucky-Lines

Reply #37

blv99 — Sun, 10 Sep 2017 04:45:29 GMT

A lucky player won $54,000 last night at OR Lucky-Lines, after after a 44-day drought. Not sure if he/she played quick pick or used any workable system. Based on the limited input we have got from our LP discussions on this subject, there doesn't seem to be too many approaches we could use to try to increase our winning chance. Still hoping to see potentially promising ideas brought to the table some day.

Reply #36

blv99 — Thu, 24 Aug 2017 03:54:49 GMT

Thanks, JADE and Dr.San for helping us climbing the mountain and get a clearer picture of the valley. Now is probably the time for many of us to step in and try out practical strategies that can help us win more often. I would encourage you folks to talk about tentative procedures using real data and show us how those would/could help us in the long run. Let's see if we have ideas that are worth pursuing --maybe, or maybe not.

Reply #35

dr san — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:24:13 GMT

Okay, so we have strong odds in each sector and we have weak probabilities in each sector, maybe a chart can help at crosses

A graph of the frequencies in each row and each column

Reply #34

JADELottery — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 22:20:13 GMT

Sounds interesting.

Looks like you have a good idea on how that might work.

Reply #33

dr san — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:42:18 GMT

Okay, JADE the goal is to get the crossing of rows and columns loaded in a lottery and exclude empty crosses. Make the filters simple. Grab the strongest odds against the weakest odds.

Reply #32

JADELottery — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:09:16 GMT

Maybe, however, this setup is specific to this type of game.

Each column has exactly 4 numbers to work with.

In a traditional lottery, each column has many more numbers.

Also, there is a odd number of columns, this works best with an even number of columns for the pairing of numbers.

It might work, but you'd be missing a lot of potential winning combinations if each column were restricted to a given set.

Reply #31

dr san — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:20:14 GMT

Hello jade Is it possible to adapt to this matrix model?

01 02 03 04 05

06 07 08 09 10

11 12 13 14 15

16 17 18 19 20

21 22 23 24 25

The hit within the 25 numbers is 15 numbers

You may have to increase to 25 letters

Is to use the same crosses

Reply #30

JADELottery — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:15:12 GMT

Translating from HEX to a Combination is simple.

Let's say we have the following HEX values.

C 5 4 E

Each column is associated with a pair of numbers.

A B C D

H G F E

C 5 4 E

Lookup the HEX value in the table below for each pair.

Lookup Table

H A H

E B G

X C F

D E

0 0 0

1 0 1

2 0 2

3 0 3

4 1 0

5 1 1

6 1 2

7 1 3

8 2 0

9 2 1

A 2 2

B 2 3

C 3 0

D 3 1... [ More ]

Reply #29

weshar75 — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 05:53:21 GMT

Those 8 numbers that stack used as an example have come out before on lucky lines for a $100 and a $500 within a couple of months of each other when I played lucky lines in 2016 and earlier in 2017. I played those numbers for a bit after that and won some small prizes like $2 and $4 but when I am only buying one ticket that ain't bad. I like to play lucky lines when it has not been won for awhile and only one ticket usually a QP for $2 and just see what comes out for that nights drawing. Good lu... [ More ]

Reply #28

blv99 — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 04:46:11 GMT

JADELottery, I'm truly impressed by the amount of details you were able to generate and share with us. Could you please use actual winning numbers to show us how to practically apply the gist of your recommended procedure to pick the most likely winners. How do we translate from Hex to a paired set and make a playable number

Reply #27

JADELottery — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:46:30 GMT

Now the interesting part.

Translating from Hex to a paired set.

If we know the Hex value, we can find a Paired set and make a playable number based on which pair we need to find.

It's about as basic as a lookup on a table.

Below is a Hex to Pairs table.

If we want to find the DE pair for a Hex value of E.

We see that 3 2 are in that row.

Next we transform those numbers using the numbered columns combined with numbered rows.

This table shows where each number is locate... [ More ]

Reply #26

Stack47 — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:40:53 GMT

Those pairs came from the example ticket in the how to play window, but the four pairs strategy I used many times playing Keno. If you add a fifth pair, it's five tickets, but you could pair up the remaining 16 numbers on two more tickets.

Reply #25

JADELottery — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:12:28 GMT

We can now create a frequency chart of each pair and all pairs.

These graphs can show the pair data better.

and All Pairs.

Reply #24

JADELottery — Mon, 14 Aug 2017 00:07:22 GMT

We can apply the simple transform to some draws.

Below are few draws with the columns changed to 0 - 3.

Next to that are the Paired Hexadecimal and Decimal equivalent.

Reply #23

JADELottery — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 22:54:52 GMT

Now we can compact the numbers by column.

These need to be transformed in to numbers 0 - 3 in each column.

We'll add some extra numbers for the columns, like so:

Using those numbers in blue, we can subtract a value in each column to make them 0 - 3.

We subtract 1 + 4X from each number in that column, where X is the number of the column.

Doing all the simple math, the table looks like this:

With these we can pair each as AH, BG, CF and DE.

Taking all the possible... [ More ]

Reply #22

JADELottery — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 22:19:18 GMT

Ok, let's get started.

We're going to transform to Hex, then setup for the reverse process.

First we need to organize the numbers.

Below is a table showing the number coverage by column, A - H.

Reply #21

JADELottery — Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:21:18 GMT

We've been able to break this down to basically a Daily Pick 4 type game when pairing each of the digits in the A - H columns.

In the table below, we can see A pairs with H to make a win.

If we continue the pairing, the pairs would be AH, BG, CF and DE.

A single pair can make a total of 16 combinations.

The difference between a regular Daily Pick 4 and our Pick 4 reconstruction is the Pick 4 will use hexadecimal digits 0 - F, or 0 - 15 in decimal form.

We need to transform the num... [ More ]

Reply #20

blv99 — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 06:17:29 GMT

Stack47: Can you please give us the address of the Oregon website that tells you how to play , to make sure we go to the same website as you did? What criteria did you use to pick the 4 pairs of numbers

Reply #19

blv99 — Fri, 11 Aug 2017 03:55:51 GMT

Stack47's 2 predicted numbers (6 and 26) made on 8/9/17 would have won $2 tonight (8/10/17). Could be an approach worth using if we can win a little more. Also, looking forward to seeing a few more things from JADELottery, working around the paired system.

Reply #18

JADELottery — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 18:10:54 GMT

there might be a way to wheel this game using the paired system.

however, it might be a bit complicated.

we'll try a few things.

Reply #17

JADELottery — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 12:08:54 GMT

here's some other interesting stuff.

we downloaded all the Jackpot history from the LP and combined with the draw history.

below is a table with just the combinations that won the Jackpot and its Jackpot.

kind of gives an idea on which numbers have been winning Jackpots.

Index

Year

Month

Day

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

JACKPOT

1

2006

4

19

03

05

12

14

20

24

27

29

$18,000

2

2006... [ More ]

Reply #16

JADELottery — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:57:15 GMT

yep Stack, you're right about the pairing.

each pair would have 16 possible outcomes.

it would seem working the upper half of the table below would automagically cover 3 lines if there were 3 or more pairs guessed correctly.

Reply #15

Stack47 — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:13:28 GMT

I'd pair up eight numbers and put them on opposite boxes around the free space. Using the numbers from how to play on the Oregon website, pair 04 with 29, 06 with 26, 09 with 23, and 15 with 17.

04 06 09

15 FREE 17

23 26 29

The reason I mentioned the game reminds me of Keno is because there is a strategy using four pairs and create four, six and an eight spot. Could create four threes too: 04-06-09, 09-17-29, 04-15-23, and 23-26-29.

Reply #14

Stack47 — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:47:43 GMT

But looks more like 8/32 Keno game to me though this game must match five numbers to guarantee getting a one line match. The weird part is matching two numbers can produce a one line win and a four number match can produce a two line winner but if they are not on correct line, nothing.

Reply #13

Kosh — Thu, 10 Aug 2017 01:25:26 GMT

Someone should come up with some kind wheeling software that is particular to this kind of game. IMHO, this is the only way to have a hope of beating this peculiar kind of game.

Kosh

Reply #12

JADELottery — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:26:08 GMT

Yeah, this game is a weird one.

It's a like a Daily Pick 3 or 4, but instead of 0-9, it is on a fundamental level a 1-4 for 8 selections, or 8 of Pick 1 of 4 numbers.

The range of 4 numbers increment in each column.

We're going have to experiment a bit with this.

Reply #11

JADELottery — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 18:15:20 GMT

That's a traditional Pick 8 of 32 Numbers.

This Game has a different selection format.

We downloaded all the draw data from the LP and here's the actual distribution for the game itself.

Interesting selection pattern.

#

Column

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

01

1059

02

987

03

1041

04

1048

Reply #10

blv99 — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 17:23:41 GMT

Jadelottery, could you please expand further on what those numbers are, and how we could/should use them to our advantage?

Also, an additional request for Stack47. Could you please add some numerical examples on how your suggested procedure would work in this case? I know you are wisely shooting for a modest price target, but it's more encouraging to win small once a day than winning big once every 10 years.

Reply #9

JADELottery — Wed, 09 Aug 2017 01:18:01 GMT

Here's the total distribution of numbers by column.

#

Column

A

B

C

D

E

F

G

H

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

01

2629575

02

2035800

593775

03

1560780

950040

118755

04

1184040

1130220

294840

20475

05

888030

1184040

484380... [ More ]

Reply #8

blv99 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 19:11:34 GMT

Thank you, Jade, for your visually very educative explanation. Most of us should now be fully informed about the complexity of this game. My next question to Jade and other lotto experts out there, is how to approach this game, shooting for a minimum of 2 winning numbers out of 8 and buying a small number of tickets. How should we use statistics, wheeling system, and other procedures, e.g., mixtures of use of hot, cold, overdue numbers, most frequent combos, etc. to help us at all? Should we jus... [ More ]

Reply #7

JADELottery — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 14:30:39 GMT

The strategy to win seems to be very column specific in a traditional sense.

We see that focusing on the follow layout may help with targeting a specific column segment or lines.

Standard wheeling might get some of those, but it would likely take a more customized wheel to get the right hits.

Keep in mind, there are a total of 10,518,300 possible combinations in a Pick 8 of 32 Numbers.

Reply #6

JADELottery — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 14:24:36 GMT

To complete the possibilities, we can transfer over the hit 2 in to the hit 3, because a hit 3 will cover a hit 2 even if the hit 3 does not match.

Below is a table showing these crossovers.

Reply #5

JADELottery — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 14:03:53 GMT

Playing OR Lucky-Lines is about the same as a Pick 8 of 32 Numbers.

The possible ways of winning though is way different.

This game actually reduces the possible winning outcomes by eliminating other potential wins from a traditional lottery winning combination.

Below we see there can be a combination of 2 and 3 numbers to win, but there are very specific; not just any 2 or 3.

In the case where 2 positions win, only 4 are possible in this game.

However, there are a total of 28... [ More ]

Reply #4

JADELottery — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 13:00:45 GMT

Here's a visual look at the game.

The basic layout and ways of winning are shown below.

Wins a made using a combination of Vertical, Horizontal and Diagonal lines like Tic-Tac-Toe.

The middle space is a Free space like BINGO.

The payouts are:

Matching 7 or 8 lines wins the rolling Jackpot; which can be $10,000.00 and up.

We can layout the basic board like a traditional lottery, like this:

Here are the winning lines as they would be in a tradit... [ More ]

Reply #3

Stack47 — Tue, 08 Aug 2017 01:45:54 GMT

You need to match at least one line and a minimum two of your numbers and must be on a line with the free spot . IMO the secondary payoffs are not enough to use lots of combinations, but the 25% overall chances makes it well worth a couple $2 QPs.

Reply #2

blv99 — Mon, 07 Aug 2017 23:17:01 GMT

For those of you who are not familiar with Lucky-Lines. This is a fun game that pays a minimum of $10,000 if all 8 numbers were guessed right. If there are no winners, the price increases by $1,000 per day and had reached as much as $84,000 last January 2017. Minor prices start from $2 with the 2 numbers right, up to $500 with the 6 numbers right in correct positions. So, in some ways, the game pays off better than Pick-4 (with a limited price of $5,000). We need to correctly predict what number... [ More ]

Reply #1

JADELottery — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 14:06:47 GMT

That OR Lucky Lines is a pretty unique game.

Tic-Tac-Toe or a mini-BINGO type game.

Baseline it's Pick 8 of 32 Numbers.

The win matrix is a non-standard structure.

Oregon Lucky-Lines

blv99 — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 19:07:42 GMT

I have been trying to find a procedure to predict winning numbers of the OR Lucky-Lines game. Some of the procedures include Ward System's Neuralshell2 network. If some of the Lotto Forum members had more luck in that process and could offer some useful hints and/or clues, that would be much appreciated. Thanks.