Definitively proving better odds on straight picks

Reply #21

Stat$talker — Sat, 28 Sep 2019 01:51:14 GMT

Ok cottoneyejoe...

Gotta make sure I don't screw up like I did my 1st attempt... accidentally got suspended.. So bare with me..Thanks

Reply #20

KY Floyd — Fri, 27 Sep 2019 17:19:43 GMT

I'll prove it can be done..and consistently

Cool. It's never been done before, so we're all waiting.

Reply #19

cottoneyedjoe — Fri, 27 Sep 2019 17:02:11 GMT

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Reply #18

Stat$talker — Fri, 27 Sep 2019 06:02:56 GMT

Aye,.. You don't have to prove what you're saying to ME... I believe you, ... and that it can be done , if you study the Stats of your Game... I do it all the time,..and as soon as l learn to post pics of my Lottery tickets results on this site, I'll prove it can be done..and consistently...!!

Lottery Officials don't want players to think that you can actually improve your odds waaay better than what they tell us... As I keep saying, the REAL odds are printed on the back of the play slip...... [ More ]

Reply #17

AllenB — Sun, 22 Sep 2019 00:32:45 GMT

Having a Don't List of 25% is of little help. By that I mean it helps a little but leaves a bunch of work to get a Win. Even a 25% Don't List on on Each Position leaves you with more culling for profit. This List would probably only be used to check your picks by other methods as a final filter. I have suggested that some of my Filtering was better at picking don'ts that dos; but never found any interest.

Ever Notice that when something does less than 70% you hear the number equal to that pe... [ More ]

Reply #16

JeetKuneDoLotto — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 23:16:07 GMT

Yes it has been proven.

TV has allowed it to be proven probablay over a thousand times.

You are not some sort of doctor are you? (Too much pepper makes you sneezeo.

I was at the store the other day and I was looking for the white pepper. When you live on the northface RIDGE sometimes exotics are missing.

I think perhaps a prediction boards of some type might be able to locate an ANAMOLY ....

I hope this helps your quesstion doood.

X

Reply #15

GoogilyMoogily — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 21:37:42 GMT

click on the predictions tab and post your predictions

Came here to say exactly that.

Reply #14

Lucky Loser — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 21:09:50 GMT

If a person had such a system the only reason he/she would have for proving it to others would be bragging rights. More often when people have something that works, they use it until it doesn't work without that need.

I couldn't agree with you more. When any gambler develops even a semi-consistent winning method for ANY for of winning money, they're not gonna just throw it out there for the whole world to see and capitalize on...and, subsequently, render the demise of the game itself. In this... [ More ]

Reply #13

Iggerine — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 04:23:16 GMT

Hello My name is Iggerine. I started running the numbers down the beginning of August 2019. I dont use a program. I have invested about $100 roughly speaking. I have won $600. I have missed a few because I am not very good at picking the winners. I do see them in my rundown after the drawings however. As I stated I am very new to this. I have hit the pick four straight about 4 times in the past 10 years just using my 2 pet numbers. So I am pretty sure that my system once I have mastered it will

Reply #12

cottoneyedjoe — Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:21:35 GMT

If you have a system or program that predicts results better than random and you want the world to see your results and admire you, click on the predictions tab and post your predictions. There is a leaderboard of sorts. As far as proof goes, and assuming you are telling the truth about your program, your public prediction stats will show that you consistently win more than $0.50 per $1 wagered, which is the baseline for random guessing in a typical lottery where the state takes a 50% cut.

Do... [ More ]

Reply #11

Stack47 — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 21:14:35 GMT

It depends on what you mean by odds improvement because as long as ten balls numbered from 1 to 0 are drawn from 3 or 4 machines, the odds against any one straight combo being drawn are always 999 to 1 and 9999 to 1. In either game the payoffs for one straight combo can be increased by simply betting more on it.

The KY pick-3 game pays $600 to $1 so getting a 25% to 30% reduction makes more sense for that game.

Reply #10

garyo1954 — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:28:03 GMT

When you consider how many people already use filters to reduce their plays you would be one among many for Pick 3/Pick 4.

Jackpot games are a different animal. Depending on how you break the game down there are many(?)/a number(?)/a bunch(?) of ways to reduce the play set (numbers in play).

Some of us do work with the 5 ball games, but not much is posted since the Pick 4/Pick 3 games are what most people are curious about.

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Reply #9

Lildarryl — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 19:03:05 GMT

im interested... thanks in advance

Reply #8

CrazyDewd — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 18:33:48 GMT

Yes, I'm only talking about a reduction in the pool of numbers one chooses from from 10000 to 7500 in a Pick 4, definitely not a prediction , at least not yet. Again, I've only been playing with lotteries as a programmer for a year and only in my spare time, although I've spent too much time already! It's an addiction!

I mean the ability to improve odds by 25% for most every draw, not just over time or an average over many official state draws. This is just with using reduction filters , as I... [ More ]

Reply #7

CrazyDewd — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 18:17:10 GMT

Hi! Wow, you've been on these forums for over 13 years. That's amazing. Nice to hear from someone so close, if you're in KY, as I'm in Ohio.

Yes, you have it right. On a Pick 3, a 25% improvement would only become a 1:750 as opposed to the 1:1000 one would get using 'quick-picks' or random picks.

I agree, I can't see anyone spending money on such an improvement. I thought maybe though, if one had a free website (as opposed to just a Windows app), where people could get 25% better provable... [ More ]

Reply #6

garyo1954 — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:54:20 GMT

Depends on what you mean by an actual 25-30% improvement.

Is this improvement real dollars or is it just a strategy based on the reduction of numbers?

Is this improvement for EVER SINGLE DRAW or based on playing at an optimum time?

If a person had such a system the only reason he/she would have for proving it to others would be bragging rights. More often when people have something that works, they use it until it doesn't work without that need.

Theoretically, you may be abl... [ More ]

Reply #5

KY Floyd — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:38:02 GMT

What does 25-30% improvement in odds mean? Changing the odds of wining pick 3 from 1 in 1000 to 1 in 700 to 750? I suppose that spending $700 to $750 to win $500 is better than spending $1000 to win $500, but I can't see why anyone would spend money for that sort of improvement .

Of course the bigger problem is that predicting the results of a random process isn't any easier than building a perpetual motion machine.

Reply #4

CrazyDewd — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:10:52 GMT

hearsetrax: Got to admire thar persistence

Thank you for that, I'm taking that as a positive comment. :)

You've both given me more incentive to work on this. THANK YOU. I just hope others chime in on this and give their opinion!

To be honest, I've been reading many other's programmer's posts who explain how their system works, but I have a hard time following them. But then, I am very new to the game .

Reply #3

CrazyDewd — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 17:08:05 GMT

THANK YOU! I wasn't sure what to expect after my first 'real' post, but I didn't expect only two, and one that was definitely not positive. I'm not offended though, after all I'm a noob. I've only been studying my state's lottery numbers for a year. You've both apparently have been over ten!

jackpotismine: Oh boy. Here comes someone trying to sell you something.

I *wish* I had something *good* to sell! But I assure you, I have nothing, yet anyway. :/ I'm just a programmer who has been sna... [ More ]

Reply #2

hearsetrax — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 10:46:07 GMT

Got to admire thar persistence

Reply #1

jackpotismine — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 04:03:23 GMT

Oh boy. Here comes someone trying to sell you something.

Definitively proving better odds on straight picks

CrazyDewd — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:48:58 GMT

Long time lurker, blah blah blah. :) Ok, say I was writing my own lottery software and I was to somehow prove I could almost always get everyone a 25-30% improvement in odds over pure random/auto-lotto on any straight Pick 4 lottery, for example. Would that be worth anything to anyone, or would consistently 25-30% better odds not be enough to make it interesting?

Has anyone actually been able to prove to others they're getting better odds than randomly picking numbers? And if so, can your imp... [ More ]