So if you find a winning formula, it's considered fraud?

Reply #47

grwurston — Thu, 23 Oct 2025 10:04:18 GMT

I play one or two of the 6 orders on a normal basis. You don't really need more than that.

Good Luck to you, and Win big

Reply #46

Stack47 — Thu, 23 Oct 2025 04:06:15 GMT

Nothing wrong with pick 3 and pick 4 spot plays. Had my best hit in both games waiting for the right conditions. Most states show on their annual reports they average paying out pretty close to 50% of those games' revenue.

Reply #45

grwurston — Wed, 22 Oct 2025 03:08:05 GMT

I don't have to worry about playing all 10 digits in one position, or guessing which digit(s) is hot, warm, cold, due, in what position or any of that. I don't use number positional tracking to play straight so in my method none of that matters one bit. There are 6 ways to play straight. Most of the time I play one, once in a while two.

Reply #44

Stack47 — Wed, 22 Oct 2025 01:39:56 GMT

Pick one digit to repeat. If it does and the next draw is a single, guaranteed win.

Except when one or both of the other two digits repeat with your one key digit and you lose $21. And the last time I looked there are 120 ways to make a straight by keying your one repeat digit with the remaining seven digits in 6-way combos.

You have a 1 in 3 chance of a guaranteed win.

Really? There are 21 ways to win and 99 ways to miss and a 16.6% probability of getting a straight win guarantee... [ More ]

Reply #43

grwurston — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:05:17 GMT

Pick one digit to repeat. If it does and the next draw is a single, guaranteed win.

Seems pretty easy to understand. If you have a good straight method that's $21 to win $500. Profit $479.

You have a 1 in 3 chance of a guaranteed win. If you have something better let's hear it.

Reply #42

Stat$talker — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 22:17:16 GMT

Two $5 MM tickets paid with a $20 gets $10 change

Aaand just HOW would You KNOW that?

We assume based on Yo feel osophy , that YOU were lucky to've gotten the $10. change..unless of course you're saayein, ONLY You can uze Math to determine the correct outcome...

That'z whut Playaz on LP are doin wit their systemz... uzin Math to determine the Pick 3 Game'z outcome...It makez cent$ to US

Just becauze YOU cain't Comprende that, duzzn't make you right... Again,...

You cain't... [ More ]

Reply #41

Stack47 — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 19:57:15 GMT

I said Pick ONE digit to repeat.

Cool, you still have a 66% chance of picking the wrong digit. With a system like that nobody will ever accuse you of committing fraud.

Reply #40

grwurston — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 19:14:54 GMT

No, it doesn't. I said Pick ONE digit to repeat. If does and the next draw is a single... You have 7 digits that were not in previous the draw which equals 21 pairs. Add the digit you picked to the pairs. 21 combos to win.

How you choose to wager it is up to you.

Reply #39

Stack47 — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:32:44 GMT

If you play $1 box it cost $36 to potentially win $47 ($83 - $36) in most states. But the guaranteed win never mentioned the obvious, there are three digits to pick from or a 33% chance of guessing the correct digit. So to get the guaranteed win you need to spend $108 or a guaranteed loss of $72.

Just another one of those weird threads that makes very little sense.

Reply #38

grwurston — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 05:52:06 GMT

Whatever your bet was.

Reply #37

Tucker Black — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 04:15:53 GMT

You make ZERO sense. Two $5 MM tickets paid with a $20 gets $10 change.

What about it

Reply #36

Tucker Black — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 04:14:26 GMT

I'm not understanding this. If the last drawing was 123, and I pick 2, and the next drawing is 245, what do I win

Reply #35

grwurston — Tue, 21 Oct 2025 02:15:31 GMT

It's not luck. Look at the last pick 3 single. Pick one digit to repeat. If it does and the next draw is a single, guaranteed win. Every time.

Reply #34

Stat$talker — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:24:33 GMT

and were lucky

Soo, whut you're saayin izz... If a Playa buy two $5. MM tocketz,.. givez the cashier a $20. Bill, they're lucky if they're handed $10. change?...cauze lawd forbid them using Math t o determine whut numba their change oughta be...

Tucker Black? , you're cauzin We serious Playaz on heaa to raize the Spock brow at you...

YO ILLOGIC IZZ FACINATING

-Stat$talker

Reply #33

MG2150 — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 18:08:26 GMT

The formula is already known

Therefore, even its use is not considered fraud.

Reply #32

Il2c — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 16:07:39 GMT

No I don't. I'm just discussing the parameters of the games I'm playing.

Since you don't have anything good to add, stfu.

Reply #31

Brock Lee — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:33:59 GMT

this guy just wants to hear the answer yes, it's fraud and will keep throwing up hypothetical after hypothetical until he gets the answer he wants. i have come up with a list of conditions that should satisfy his craving for fraud.

not wearing a helmet while riding your bike to the convenience store to buy lottery tickets telling the cashier have a nice day when you don't really mean it the cashier tells you to have a nice day but doesn't really mean it using a fork and knife to scrape a scr... [ More ]

Reply #30

Tucker Black — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 13:42:46 GMT

No. It means either they have bought few tickets and were lucky, or they've bought lots of tickets and chose not to upload pics of losing tickets. Either one is understandable.

A consistent winning streak of frequent plays over 15 years is statistically impossible.

Reply #29

hypersoniq — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 11:22:06 GMT

A system has a value if it keeps you in a budget. After trying all manner of things over the last 20+ years I agree there is no magic formula.

I also play the PA pick 3, the one that had the 666 fix ... so the fairly is sometimes in question, but the results are random enough.

The one combo I play is nothing more than a best guess, and when it hits, is purely coincidental. No disillusionment here. No trapping or wheels either... I could just as easily play a QP and have the same chance o... [ More ]

Reply #28

grwurston — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:33:54 GMT

Without cheating, pick 3 is not beatable.

Are you implying that all the members that have been posting their winning tickets on the Post Your Winning Tickets Here forum for the last 15 years are all a bunch of cheaters

Reply #27

Stat$talker — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:10:38 GMT

and proud of shutting down every pick 3 game in the country?

Well, eVeRy Pick 3 game in the Country I'd hope iz not corrupt...I xspoze corruption ... Whether It'z Flat Eartherz in Black out or State Lottery LLCz..

There is no magical winning formula for predicting random numbers that are drawn fairly.

not true

Moses didn't part every body of Water on the Planet, only the water pozed az an obstacle...

-Stat$talker

Reply #26

Artist77 — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 10:10:05 GMT

Again, totally different issue. A child cannot buy lottery tickets but an adult can play any numbers regardless of origin. It does not matter where they came from (legally obtained numbers). You are going down the rabbit hole with non relevant hypotheticals.

Repeat after me. I can play any numbers at any time. No one told you in this thread that you could not play numbers with any legal system.

You can play as an adult any numbers created by you or provided to you.

Reply #25

Tucker Black — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 09:50:07 GMT

An individual who can beat a game like pick 3, statistically beyond just being lucky, is engaging in fraud. That's not a system (since all systems are worthless), that's a crime. That someone is putting weighted balls in the machine or uploading a program for the RNG to choose numbers of their choosing (Eddie Tipton).

Without cheating, pick 3 is not beatable. The rolling jackpot games are beatable if the jackpot gets large enough and one has the resources to buy all the combinations.

If... [ More ]

Reply #24

Il2c — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 03:28:23 GMT

Apparently you don't understand hypotheticals LOL.

But u mean to tell me if a 6 or 7 year old can somehow manage to predict lottery numbers, at no point are you going to play them?

Is that a Florida thing or what? FOH. Knowing this, you deserve to lose every time u play.

Lol if you prayed to God, if you believe in God, and asked God for a car, house, truck or whatever and your son just happens to turn on the tv and say, Oh this game again! and gives you the exact set of numbers , ar... [ More ]

Reply #23

Il2c — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 02:46:14 GMT

Lol. Brock, you're not in a position to judge anyone or anything.

Reply #22

Brock Lee — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 02:27:44 GMT

a 7-year-old who works out a system to play pick 3 has been exposed to waaaaaaay too much gambling. use your winnings to buy a parenting book.

Reply #21

Il2c — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:57:50 GMT

just a bunch of misinformed haters. we the people.

Reply #20

hypersoniq — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:55:36 GMT

Remember, a winning jackpot system only needs to work once. If you had something workable and profitable for the pick 3, you would draw from the system s-l-o-w-l-y and do things like switch up retailers where you cash them in... aim for weekly rather than daily hits. Every lottery agency legally rips off millions of people several times a day... but an individual who could beat the system would be seen as a threat... and we know what government agencies do to threats...

Reply #19

Il2c — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:48:51 GMT

Nobody ever said they had a winning formula. All I said was IF Hypotheticals.

Reply #18

grwurston — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:20:08 GMT

You don't need to shut down every game in the country. Just the one you play regularly. But don't do it so often and so big that they start to figure out somethings up.

Reply #17

Il2c — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:11:43 GMT

Nah that's not the point.

I'm looking at it from two different scales.

One has more money to play higher games, and the small fish playing pick 3 gets to go?

If my 7yr old son magically finds a pattern, and because he can't play because he's underage and tells me numbers to purchase. I'm functioning as a courier right? And I go out and buy 72 tickets in a month. All winning.

Okay. Fair enough

Reply #16

Tucker Black — Mon, 20 Oct 2025 01:04:12 GMT

If you have a winning formula for pick 3, why aren't you independently wealthy and proud of shutting down every pick 3 game in the country

Reply #15

Stat$talker — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 21:30:48 GMT

There is no winning formula for pick 3,

Don't believe dem Flat Eartherz , They just cain't think outside da box .

Let them tell it, There'z no formula that defeatz Gravity, So don't worry bout goin to da Moon ..

Novice folkz alwayz label thangz that they don't understand, Impossible cauze they're in da dark

A complete BLACK out

-Stat$talker

Reply #14

Tucker Black — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 20:28:39 GMT

There is no winning formula for pick 3, so you're fine.

Fraud would be fixing the game so your numbers get chosen on purpose.

Reply #13

Artist77 — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 19:10:06 GMT

Someone giving you alleged future winning numbers is meaningless since in reality, no one will ever know what numbers will win unless there is Eddie Tipton type fraud.

If you play numbers someone gives you and you buy the ticket with no promises, the $ is yours. No one can claim a set of numbers belonged to them alone.

And as Brock Lee said, no fraud.

Reply #12

Brock Lee — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 18:29:42 GMT

none of the ever changing and ever multiplying components of your story amount to fraud. just a really convoluted tale of somebody taking way to many steps to purchase a lottery ticket. it only takes about one minute and two braincells to buy a quick pick.

Reply #11

Il2c — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:56:01 GMT

Hmm, u right.

I guess they couldn't see that well,

Jennifer gave me these winning number combinations, now I can finally pay off xxx travel xxx and do xxx versus, I bought the tickets!?! .

There's multiple components, not just 1.

Reply #10

Artist77 — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:49:21 GMT

Two different topics.

Sharing a winning formula vs someone purchasing tickets for you.

Reply #9

Il2c — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:45:50 GMT

Yeah I'm aware, but look at it this way:

If someone were to find a winning formula, meaning just not a 1-time. Thing. Why be selfish?

If they're willing to share it with you from the jump?

Most people are irrational

Reply #8

Artist77 — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:39:50 GMT

People change quickly when millions of dollars are involved. Do you know how many disputes end up in court between family members??? People say well I never expected my sister to sue me ...she was my best friend...or for my cousin to be so greedy.

Reply #7

Il2c — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:35:04 GMT

Mathematically, he knows what he's entitled to. i'm just saying.

Thank God, I have and come from a good family.

Reply #6

Artist77 — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:28:34 GMT

NO. But you need to disclose that to the lottery if asked. It could raise issues as to whether your cousin is entitled to half or more of the winnings if he paid for the tickets and various other possible promises or agreements between you two, etc.

Reply #5

Il2c — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:24:51 GMT

If I get my cousin to buy 5 tickets, it's illegal

Reply #4

Brock Lee — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:11:26 GMT

you're not interpreting the article correctly.

Reply #3

Artist77 — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:10:45 GMT

That was the issue concerning couriers-3rd parties purchasing tons of tickets. If there is no law banning bulk purchases or the use of couriers, then it is ok.

You asked about filtering numbers to create possible winners. Completely different issue.

Reply #2

Il2c — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:07:07 GMT

Maybe I'm not interpreting this article correctly:

https://www.lotterypost.com/news/356437

Reply #1

Artist77 — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 17:01:50 GMT

No. There is no deception or criminal activity involved.

Why would anyone think that was fraud

So if you find a winning formula, it's considered fraud?

Il2c — Sun, 19 Oct 2025 16:59:11 GMT

Whether it be:

1. Playing a set of combos from a select group of numbers that you calculate.

2. A formula for buying x amount of tickets.

It's considered fraud now?

What is considered Bulk ?

I have an idea, but I'm curious what do you guys think?

For anyone who doesn't understand, i'll simplify it further:

If I were to track pick 2, pick 3 numbers, pick 4, pick 5 numbers to win, and filter out the results with my combos . It's considered fraud.... [ More ]