Lottery Numbers Aren't Meant To Be Random

Reply #33

Zillner — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 16:02:52 GMT

Hey I was trying to see how do you post all the numbers from multiple states

Reply #32

Tucker Black — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 15:22:21 GMT

Buy a book on math and probability theory and get back to us.

Reply #31

Ney1 — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 14:50:52 GMT

Reply #30

Stat$talker — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 06:31:31 GMT

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Reply #29

Tucker Black — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 05:15:01 GMT

Random variables have a probability distribution. What that distribution is depends on what is generating the random numbers.

NBA Basketball scores are random, but not uniformly random. It could be 85, but that score is less likely than 110.

Done properly, lottery numbers are uniformly distributed random numbers between a and b (e.g. 0 to 9, or 1 to 54). All outcomes have the same probability.

The lottery only needs to ensure the balls are sufficiently mixed up before drawing them. I... [ More ]

Reply #28

Ney1 — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 04:52:35 GMT

The fact lottery officials go through the pain of forcing lottery numbers to be random is admitting that its, in fact, predictable and patterned in sequences. Why can't you see that? I don't understand why you guys can't fathom that?

After reading your comment, I said to myself, Ima show this dude something that is considered to be random and explain to him that its actually not, but sequenced with patterns.

So, you know what? Im gonna write down my NBA team; the Houston Rocke... [ More ]

Reply #27

Coin Toss — Sun, 21 Dec 2025 03:41:08 GMT

Ney1

You sound more like a lottery player with a desperate hope that lottery mnumbers are not random and thus you can find a flaw somehow, capitalize on it and come up with a set of winniing numbers to play. Don't you think that those whorun lotteries mtake pains to make sure that the numberts are random?

Don't you think that those who run lotteries are very concerned about predictability

Reply #26

Ney1 — Sat, 20 Dec 2025 06:10:41 GMT

Wow...interesting.

That was a good read. I don't know if Texas Lottery pre-test 6 times because of that incident. Regardless though, pre-testing lottery numbers will never eliminate the predictability nature of lottery numbers.

Lottery numbers are not meant to be random. That just the cold hard fact of the matter. Put another way....if anything is borne of something such as a host, there will almost certainly be a predictable pattern or a uniform order of behavior.

Ta... [ More ]

Reply #25

grwurston — Sat, 20 Dec 2025 05:37:15 GMT

Here is what Pa does now. Different states do it slightly different.

PA https://youtu.be/ahJCtTMr7oo?si=hvlpNCTyGGLIj02X

NC https://youtu.be/sohkunXbA38?si=UeL1Wj2PunzbzQT1

Ohio https://youtu.be/1e1EOoKvje0?si=JlR7xWvpfKsHqC6k

Reply #24

grwurston — Sat, 20 Dec 2025 04:50:54 GMT

The reason they run test drawings on lottery balls before each drawing is to avoid a repeat of this.

https://thehustle.co/the-local-tv-star-who-rigged-the-lottery

https://youtube.com/shorts/z68rJtCMxJE?si=rcPCJYmgufJT8oMV

Reply #23

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:29:16 GMT

Sorry, I don't follow your logic, here. You said the pretest is precisely because the process is random. Huh... ?

So, it was predictable before testing which is suggestive of a sequential behavior that involved patterns as its natural existence.

So, the pre-tests is to sort of force the number events to go random on the next play. That's a logical derivation for the pre-tests, right?

If you agree, then how was it random before pre-test and then actually random after pr... [ More ]

Reply #22

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:10:04 GMT

One pre-test ensures the machine works. Five more is to assuage the fears of people who think they're cheating. They wouldn't even get to that point if a cheater puts in weighted balls, because they weigh the balls first.

Clearly you have your beliefs and refuse to listen to reason. I have laid out my arguments, which are based in reason and mathematics. If you choose to subscribe to some alternative math , go right ahead.

On the bright side, whatever system you use will have the same ch... [ More ]

Reply #21

KY Floyd — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 21:02:13 GMT

the fact they pre-test in this manner is proof the numbers aren't random.

I'd agree, except that we aren't both idiots. Those pre-tests are precisely because the process is random and they're checking to make sure that nothing suggest a problem that interferes with that expected randomness. That you don't understand why they do it doesn't change the reasons for doing it.

I'm sure I can see a pattern in your movement from bed to toilet in stunning accuracy due to the fact you are in a co... [ More ]

Reply #20

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 20:51:48 GMT

So, your new answer after your first flopped where you said its because they wanted to make sure the machine is working properly. Now, you have a revised answer: 'because people don't trust the lottery.'

[Pausing for a moment of laughter]

Oh boy.... !

Anyway, you might want to revised that answer for a 3rd attempt because the Texas Lottery only show a live drawing .....they never show the pre-test process. And have no intention of doing so.

So from here, you j... [ More ]

Reply #19

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 20:04:07 GMT

So...why you think lottery officials pre-test if the numbers suppose to be random to begin with? And I already debated and established that it has nothing to do with making sure the machine working properly.

I've given this some thought. They really don't need to run any pre-tests. If the machine has a mechanical malfunction, it won't show up as the thing produces the same set of winning numbers over and over (assuming they load all the balls, not just 5 of them, and then pick 5, that would... [ More ]

Reply #18

Coin Toss — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 19:57:39 GMT

Ney1. You are dreaming.

Reply #17

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 19:27:21 GMT

Number events: the play by play of numbers that form patterns and sequences.

Containment of space and time: the air space the balls floats in when being generated in the mechanical ball machine, and the time it stays afloat until it stops.

Of course you knew this.

Reply #16

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 19:19:38 GMT

This is unbelievable.

So...why you think lottery officials pre-test if the numbers suppose to be random to begin with? And I already debated and established that it has nothing to do with making sure the machine working properly.

So, what could be the reason, Tucker? You not a stupid man. And possess a good degree of intelligence, here.

Just admit you lost this debate, okay? I wasn't trying to challenge you, but more so standing up for what I know to be the truth: t... [ More ]

Reply #15

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 19:09:53 GMT

So, you admit there's the possibility of seeing patterns and sequences where numbers events repeat themselves because it's generated in a containment of space and time?

Sorry but that statement doesn't make any sense. What is a numbers event ? What does a containment of space and time mean? It comes across as gibberish. Just use plain old logic and math.

If it can work for 1 ball, it can work for 5 more balls.

No. With 1 ball, you know what the result will be. If you have 5 more, f... [ More ]

Reply #14

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:59:21 GMT

Okay, then please explain to me how running a ball machine six times destroys any pattern it might have had. I would like to know the physics behind that. After all, if it had a pattern going, why not just extrapolate your pattern 7 drawings out? There really is no reason to believe that a mechanical ball drawing machine isn't random, but you seem convinced otherwise. I would like to know what your reasoning is (something besides it just is or well obviously , something concrete, with physics).... [ More ]

Reply #13

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:58:15 GMT

So, you admit there's the possibility of seeing patterns and sequences where numbers events repeat themselves because it's generated in a containment of space and time?

If it can work for 1 ball, it can work for 5 more balls. The numbers on the balls means nothing...if anything, it helps to predict, more so!

I can't believe Im having this conversation like a Teacher talking to pupils.

Reply #12

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:51:01 GMT

Tucker, nowhere in the evidence you posted nor I posted did it say anything about these pre-tests being conducted to make sure the machine are working properly.

You inserting that crap. Its a figment of your imagination. You not dealing with factual statements from these websites saying its to test to ensure randomness and the numbers not being predictable.

It is not saying anywhere what you saying it is.

Reply #11

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:46:57 GMT

I agree. If you put just one ball in the hopper and run the machine, we can all predict with absolute certainty what number the winning number will be.

Of course, that's not how any of the Texas games operate. They don't have a game of pick 1 with a field size of 1. Texas Lotto is 6 of 54.

Reply #10

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:42:17 GMT

the fact they pre-test in this manner is proof the numbers aren't random

The method of choosing numbers by mechanical means is indeed random by natural existence. The reason why they test the machine is to make sure the thing works (machines do break down every now and then). That's what a mechanical ball drawing machine does -- pick balls at random that have numbers painted on them.

Note that it is possible for a correctly working machine to randomly select the same set of numbers six... [ More ]

Reply #9

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:41:13 GMT

If I lock you up in a small room with a bed and toilet, and monitor you for 24 hours, I'm sure I can see a pattern in your movement from bed to toilet in stunning accuracy due to the fact you are in a controlled spaced at a set amount of time.

Now, of course it would be much harder to do if you're in the free world as your movements will be quite random and much harder to predict. This is not a hard concept to grasp.

Reply #8

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:25:30 GMT

Lotto Texas uses a mechanical ball drawing machine to select winning numbers, not a computer-based Random Number Generator (RNG) for the actual draw itself.

All major Texas Lottery drawings are audited by independent accounting firms to ensure integrity and randomness .

The whole process before an official draw is to pretest each balls 6 times. And what they look for is for the balls not to repeat the same numbers 6 times in a row. If it doesn't, it passed the test and preppe... [ More ]

Reply #7

KY Floyd — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:24:09 GMT

Sorry to break it to you, but you're either delusional or stupid if you think your contained space imposes some kind of order that prevents the balls from popping out randomly.

Reply #6

lottorist — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 18:12:11 GMT

Ney1 is correct and you are wrong, a good sign you did not pay any attention while watching the video..! The order in which lotto numbers are drawn does NOT determine winning numbers at all, instead, the machine uses the previous position of each number to pick numbers thus explaining why lottery numbers appear random during each draw and partly why they repeat.

You are just arguing but you have nothing to show to prove any of your points at all.

Therefore, Ney1 is correct in everything

Reply #5

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 17:18:32 GMT

No, they do not test it to prevent predictability. There's no need to, because the drawings aren't predictable in the first place. None of those plastic or rubber balls with numbers painted on them care if they were chosen in the last drawing or not. They are physical objects with no memory or ability to know anything.

You need to re-read their website because you are inferring something that isn't there.

https://www.texaslottery.com/export/sites/lottery/Player_Protection/mythbusters.htm... [ More ]

Reply #4

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:43:09 GMT

Wrong! They test it to ensure randomness and prevent predictability. I'm stating exactly what I read from that website.

And the fact they test it for that matter points to the natural existence of lottery numbers as being anti-randomness in nature.

Your stubbornness and opinions aren't facts. Just a figment of some wild imagination.

Reply #3

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:32:04 GMT

You didn't prove anything in your video. The only thing you got correct is that there are 5! = 5*4*3*2*1 = 120 ways to select 5 different numbers. This is meaningless, because a winning ticket is one in which the player's set of 5 numbers matches the lottery's set of 5 numbers. The order in which they're drawn is irrelevant.

Reply #2

Tucker Black — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:29:59 GMT

And I learned its ran by a mechanical ball drawing machine....what LP members would call a RNG.

An RNG is a computer. It stands for Random Number Generator.

They test the machine 6 times to make sure the thing is working and that they don't get the same results every time. If they did, then there's probably something wrong with it.

If you believe this mechanical ball drawing machine produces numbers in a predictable sequence, rather than at random, why don't you use your system to p... [ More ]

Reply #1

lottorist — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:26:51 GMT

Ney1, you are absolutely correct.. please check my post on the Math section ( My take on math and ball lotteries) that proves you are right. Most people are just arguing for the sake of arguing and i will prove all wrong.

I will be posting two videos to show people how the game works and will notify you to check them out if like.

Lottery Numbers Aren't Meant To Be Random

Ney1 — Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:15:03 GMT

I'm seeing sermons on LP by certain posters preaching that lottery numbers are random. They believe these numbers are ran like a slot machine with the numbers being produced by a computer-based RNG.

And they believe we, as players, won't ever be able to predict the next numbers unless we know the seed value and the formula, ...... the harvesting, the gathering, the purging.....

So, I took the initiative to research the game I play: Lotto Texas. And I learned its ran by a mechanical... [ More ]