Testing a Lottery program

Reply #15

RJOh — Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:39:33 GMT

Find a different game to playRJOh

Reply #19

RJOh — Sat, 20 Jul 2002 14:35:16 GMT

Actually your odds of hitting when you play pick 3 if you consider all combinations boxed when possible as winners is 1:220. There are 720 numbers than can be boxed six ways, 270 double numbers which can be boxed 3 ways and 10 triple numbers which can't be boxed. That the reason these pick 3 predictor can post a list of 20 or so numbers and claim a hit somewhere in the world. RJOh

Reply #14

smd173 — Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:09:09 GMT

Sorry but I don't really care about Georgia. I don't live any where near it. If you want help with Georgia, go to playpick3.com and put in the Georgia numbers.

Reply #13

chickenman — Sat, 20 Jul 2002 01:46:29 GMT

please help me the Georiga cash three is killin me

Reply #12

smd173 — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 22:53:27 GMT

Todd,I haven't bad mouthed PP3 yet. All I am doing is trying to see whether it is worth the money. This is why you offered the 14-day trial, isn't it?As far as the rest of your argument goes, I don't really see how you can say what you did. The program doesn't know if I actually buy a ticket or not. And you've told me previously that the more data you enter the better the number will be. So what is the difference if I enter the data from 1977 to present and play for the next two weeks or if I en... [ More ]

Reply #18

RJOh — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 18:02:12 GMT

I was including all numbers including doubles and triples. 022 and 333 for example don't have six different ways to hit.RJOh

Reply #17

Tkradio — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:49:09 GMT

I beleive a box is 1 to 167 odds

Reply #9

visiondude — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:48:42 GMT

if someone can prove that lottery balls have memory and therefore history (they don't). and they can also prove that lottery balls have the capability of communicating with each other (they can't), then you might be able to make a case for a system . otherwise it is purely RANDOM. try as you might, no one will ever come up with a way to beat the odds. the odds will always be the same even if you spend an entire lifetime trying to figure out the mathematical equations. i don't mind people ha... [ More ]

Reply #11

Tkradio — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:48:24 GMT

I don't object I look forward to what you come up with? It should be very interesting....

Reply #10

Thomas Covenant — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:42:13 GMT

they aren't true based on the fact that in order to get a good report those numbers that are predicted must have been played officially - they weren't therefore the test will provide you with bad data - Granted regardless the test How would the program know? And if you believe in your program why do you object to a test

Reply #8

RJOh — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:33:50 GMT

How does the software know if you play the predicted numbers of not. You make it sounds as if you can't test the program unless you actually play the numbers. Does the program make adjustments for losing numbers predicted and numbers of plays?RJOh

Reply #7

Tkradio — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:36:19 GMT

..In order for the outcome to be seen those numbers have to be played. You cannot go back in time, run a report, and then say look! Nothing! This test would be great if the numbers from the PP3 were actually played for real then you would have a better basis of relying on the history. Your test means nothing and proves nothing! The plan is to predict a number off the winning numbers and then playing that number Meaning, that the State gets a tag that; that PP3 number was played Thats the clue Pl... [ More ]

Reply #16

RJOh — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:43:42 GMT

Actually when you consider a pick-3 a hit if it hit in one its 6 (in most cases) box combinations, the odds are closer to 1 in 300 of coming up with a winner.RJOh

Reply #6

Bradly_60 — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:33:56 GMT

Just remember the house always wins

Reply #5

Thomas Covenant — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:24:41 GMT

Yes I know the payout for pick 3 is fixed. But how long would these games last if 50,000 people picked the winning numbers everytime in every state? The states aren't going to lose money. They would stop the games.

Reply #4

smd173 — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:19:27 GMT

You keep mentioning how if you created a program that predicted the draws you wouldn't share it with anyone. But in Pick3 and Pick4 games the prize payouts are fixed, not pari-mutel. So it doesn't matter if there are 4 winners or 40,000 the payout is the same and you are playing against the state. Now if someone was selling a pick5 or pick6 program that is obviously different.When I get some time this weekend I am going to enter all of the numbers listed on the PA lottery website for the history... [ More ]

Reply #3

visiondude — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:58:08 GMT

that's why the so called predictors in here gravitate toward the pick 3. because of the short odds they are bound to hit if they throw out enough numbers. that is how they make their money. a supposed hit here or there gives them credibility. that's when people start lining up to buy their systems . haven't seen anyone take my challenge yet? if you really have a system , quit fooling around with the little combinations. let's see what you really have - predict the big one ! it continues to... [ More ]

Reply #2

Thomas Covenant — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 13:45:28 GMT

I don't have to test any. There are no mathematical grounds for using a lottery program. For each draw any combination is just as likely to come up as any other. You cannot predict future draws using past results because the balls don't have a memory. Those programs are a ripoff. If I could write a program that could predict the draws do you think I would share it with everybody? The Pick 3 programs seem to be the most accurate. That is because there are only 1000 combinations.

Reply #1

RJOh — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 12:10:29 GMT

Which programs are you testing? It would be interesting to know the programs and the results. Last month Lottocheata posted a list of numbers to play in the powerball and I posted a comparison list of numbers as a test. Even thought Lottocheata had clamied to have predicted many winners in the past, that night the program didn't do so good, but the results were out there for everyone to review. Most lottery program are database programs which allows the player to look a past winners and pick or... [ More ]

Testing a Lottery program

Thomas Covenant — Fri, 19 Jul 2002 03:50:56 GMT

Delete the last 6 months of your data from your database. Let it make a prediction then add the correct number to the database. Record how much you would have won and how much you would have spent. I bet you would have lost far more than you would have won.