To Visiondude

Reply #47

visiondude — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:48:32 GMT

rdarmand, the c

Reply #46

rdarmand — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:25:09 GMT

I followed my own suggestion the other night and created a random number generating spreadsheet, setting it up for six players playing 8, 16, 24 32 three-digit combinations in the Missouri Pick-3 game. $1 was spent on each number. If all three digits were different, it bought a six-way box ($100 prize); if two of the digits were the same, it bought a three-way box ($200 prize); and if all the digits were the same it bought a straight ticket ($598 prize). Then, using the draws for the month of

Reply #45

Phyllis — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:41:46 GMT

Sandy K,

Reply #44

MichiganHopeful — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:38:05 GMT

You are in my Prayers Sandy

Reply #43

Sandy K — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 09:32:29 GMT

You are right. I am dismissing that notion. All I ask is prayers. Last time I was this sick, I had about 30 friends who went to their church's prayer groups and prayed for me in numbers and God must have decided to listen. Please no posts. I am not dead yet.......lol......and I have an ultrasound next week that will tell all. Hey, I might come out of this okay. I appreciate the thought VisionDude; you softie..you...lol....To Emily, my lottery friend, thank you. You sent me an email a few... [ More ]

Reply #42

visiondude — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:06:52 GMT

wishin, i think your idea is a great one. knowing sandy she would dismiss such a notion. she handles her situation with incredible acceptance and grace. i know her well enough to start one. however in a sense i already have here in this thread. i would prefer that someone else step up to the plate and start a new one. i don't want anyone to accuse me of grandstanding. let someone else get the credit. so who will it be a kind word here or there goes a long ways these days... get the party... [ More ]

Reply #41

wishin — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 04:44:39 GMT

Sandy K. you are in my thoughts and prayers. I, too, have been through the route of doctors, second opinions, and surgeries not to mention doing research on my own. I wish you the best. I only wish this thread hadn't gone so far. No, I'm not directing this to anyone in particular, it's just my overall impression/opinion of the situation. To me, the thread just plain deteriorated. A few people attempted to evoke calmness or even a truce with humor, but then someone would fuel the embers ag... [ More ]

Reply #40

visiondude — Thu, 19 Sep 2002 00:15:42 GMT

to all, i could have done this between sandy and i via private message. i choose not to. there is a time when the importance of life makes it's way to the surface. the thing's in life that really matters. if there comes another time where i will have to speak up again, i will. but now is the time to put things into perspective.what we all have to do here (lottery post wrestling - the LPWF instead of the wwe ) pails in comparison to what sandy is facing. i would ask all of you to put asid... [ More ]

Reply #39

Sandy K — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 23:26:50 GMT

First of all, let me say this: David if you use the above post to any way put down VD, I will be all over you like a blood sucker. VisionDude and I have had our battles. We agreed to disagree and respect each other's decisions. He is not always right and neither am I. But we are both honest and true to ourselves. I made a mistake with Old Hank and I apologized. I take the defensive too often and that is my weakness.I don't pity VisionDude, I envy him. I don't ask for pity for myself either. W... [ More ]

Reply #38

visiondude — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 20:08:22 GMT

i have no problem with people making money in exchange for their hard work, they deserve it !! i wouldn't even have a problem with someone who charges for lottery numbers except for one small item, they cannot give you what you pay for and what they promise ( at least on an on-going basis). they cannot do anything that you cannot do yourself (at least as far as i have seen up until this conversation).you charge money for something, you better be able to deliver the goods. sedertree has been... [ More ]

Reply #37

Littleoldlady — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 18:31:15 GMT

There sure are some long winded writers here..LOL. Everyman to his/her own opinion. Personally, I have nothing against people who want to make some money for their services. To me, it is the same as anything else....you get what you pay for... ... If I believe that a person has made a meritable impression upon me with their method of play, I will pay them for their services. I am not trying to win everyday, but just some of the days. The American dream is to own your own business, house and... [ More ]

Reply #36

OldHank — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 17:16:32 GMT

George, I agree. I thought it had been dropped. Then, I noticed that you brought it up again. That's the reason I posted the times/dates, otherwise I would never had done it.Just wanted to explain where I was coming fromBest of luck,OldHank

Reply #35

Sedertree — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:26:52 GMT

Old Hank and Sandy,I respect your opinions. So lets move on and forget this quibble.Let's concentrate on the task at hand....../George

Reply #34

Sandy K — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:14:22 GMT

I agree with you on th

Reply #33

OldHank — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 15:08:51 GMT

Sorry, George, I tend to disagree with you on the subject of Comp VD. If you'll look back,starting: Sept 16, 10:58p.m. Compulotto first posted to VD. (The thread was between you and VD).9/16 11:55p.m. VD responded to David and his post was civilized.9/17 2:06 a.m. David to VD , at this point David began to dig/gouge deeper.9/17 3:32 a.m. VD to David9/17 5:09 a.m. David to VD - here, he, David, really began to strike It's all there, in Black and White. So, when you sa... [ More ]

Reply #32

Sedertree — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 10:04:32 GMT

Friends,I was wr

Reply #31

visiondude — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:27:30 GMT

harry , i think the eye has run it's course. good idea. it was mean't as a joke . but now it seems creepy . i will do a pluck-ectomy and remove it. but i reserve the right to replace it. i will consult the king of avatars, thomas covenant.....................visiondude

Reply #30

harry613 — Wed, 18 Sep 2002 00:10:01 GMT

Viso

Reply #29

gilla — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:54:14 GMT

Rick G.I wasn't laughing at your post. It was the Gomer system.

Reply #28

visiondude — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 23:51:42 GMT

wow how does this stuff find me? let's square something away right from the start. compulotto came to me, i didn't hunt him down . and no it wasn't civil right from the start. he was carefull how he worded it but nonetheless he came after me. if you read my response i was cordial yet forthright. i held back to see what his intentions were. i answered his questions besides his obvious intentions. his last response let me know exactly what he was up to. because i am not afraid to stand up, i gave... [ More ]

Reply #27

Rick G — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:39:16 GMT

Harry613,I agree, talk is cheap. Why can't someone provide a reliable web site that tracks actual bets (straight and/or box and/or pairs) and losses on an ongoing basis to resolve these 'guru' issues? One week or one month of results doesn't mean squat. Profit is an ongoing thing. What's the bottom line at year's end? Did you make money??? If so, what was the percentage of profit?We need a standard.

Reply #26

rdarmand — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 20:47:36 GMT

I don't play the dailies, so I don't know how these systems work; but from what I've seen on this board they involve paying for about 20 different combinations per day.Someone who does understand how these systems work, and who wants to test the value of systems in general, might consider using a random number generator - you can do it in Excel or Lotus if you don't program - to select several sets of numbers daily for a month. Give each one the name of a fictional player, or system, and track... [ More ]

Reply #25

harry613 — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:21:47 GMT

Reply #24

Sandy K — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:25:02 GMT

David, David, David........

Reply #23

compulotto — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:31:21 GMT

Sandy Sandy...I did say you used your real name didn't I..Ok let me get the quote again Hum... Sandy Kthat is your name. So the closet hiding scenario does not apply to you. end quote. From the message earlier.I also have the guarantee for a full month not just one week, which is what I am putting on this board.I do have my friends and family send me email to that address. Go figure.. really would not have said that if it wasn't true..As to the wins in Michigan.lets see. listed (won't say wh... [ More ]

Reply #22

AmuzingP3s — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:00:16 GMT

George, I found it. If you go into the Compulotto site and click under Resources, there you are, with a link to your site. Sandy is right, your link is there.

Reply #21

AmuzingP3s — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:55:01 GMT

George, I checked the Compulotto site and saw a reference to your system. I can't remember if it was a link or what, but it kind of links (relays) your system to the Compulotto, or at least that's what I understood. Maybe I did not get a clear picture of it.

Reply #20

Sedertree — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:15:27 GMT

Sandy,I just checked his site and I don't see a link to mine. You may be thinking of Lotto-Logix run by Robert Perkis vice Compulotto run by David T. There are many lottery websites that carry my banner or text links.I'm just calling it how I see it unfolding. I don't agree that you or anyone else for that matter should be dragged into this. David and Visiondude should duke this out on their own without backup.We should all just back away and let them settle it on their own.David, Please lea... [ More ]

Reply #19

Sandy K — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:51:56 GMT

That is what I am waiting to see.............the Daily List.........yes, I know how many times the person from Michigan won..........the person is not subscribed to you anymore...does that tell you something............Put your Daily List out............forget the weekly and monthly...........let's see. I am should be from Missouri also.............show me! A Daily list with a guarantee of 2 straight picks if all numbers are played on the Daily List. Some states are tougher than others. Georg... [ More ]

Reply #18

OldHank — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:38:29 GMT

You really sound like you came here for a battle.Quote: This really is fun! I don't think I will oblige you.Good day,OldHank

Reply #17

compulotto — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:01:01 GMT

Hi OldHankDid I misquote vision dude anywhere? I know I have not read his posts but it should be obvious from his words that he spends a lot of time attacking. His words.Please tell me where I miss something. David T

Reply #16

compulotto — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:57:25 GMT

Hi SandyMaybe you missed the part about guarantee.Maybe you missed the part about being directed at visiondude.What makes you defensive?Hum... Sandy Kthat is your name. So the closet hiding scenario does not apply to you.Email, private, hum did I forget to put my email on my profile? Think NOT.Do I sign my real name? Hum.....Really folks.. The original post was responding to specific lines from visiondude. Nothing was / is made up or added. As to the content.. Well I was just talking about t... [ More ]

Reply #15

Sedertree — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:53:17 GMT

Friends,Sorry but I have to side with Compulotto on this one. Visiondude threw the first stone. They began by having a fair and civil debate on this thread:Message posted by compulotto on September 17 2002 at 2:06am - IP LoggedInteresting..You know, I thought from your comments that you were one of those folks that believes that god gives us everything and therefore tries to impose their will on everyone else. Wasn't there something in the book about helping yourself (somewhere).......Now with t... [ More ]

Reply #14

RJOh — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 11:27:40 GMT

Why the attack on Vision Dude? You have stated in your Vtrac Challenge you will post numbers for 3 states. Your challenge will stand on it own. The people don't only want a winner, they want to win more than they spend. Most states say that the pick3/4 games are their most profitable games, so it hard for me to believe someone has a system where the players come out ahead (win more than they spend including your $40/month fee).Good luck to you, hope your posts will back up your claims.RJOh... [ More ]

Reply #13

OldHank — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:20:08 GMT

Oh Man! I have to agree with SandyK on this one! She wrote some pretty good stuff.I, too, know someone who uses v-tracs and what SandyK wrote was very true. The very same has applied to their usage.David, you first wrote to visiondude. He was not the one who originated the conversation. Since you haven't gone back and read any of his messages, then you don't know WHO you are dealing with.It was tacky on your part to attack him like that. If you came here to push your v-tracs, then maybe... [ More ]

Reply #12

MichiganHopeful — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:17:38 GMT

WoW...well said Sandy

Reply #11

Sandy K — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 09:23:07 GMT

Mr. Compulotto,A friend of mine had your list emailed daily. Yes, you hit like you say......that is the truth but you hit on monthly or weekly lists the most.......and there are a LOT of numbers you list on those lists. So you say $40 investment. That is not true. There is a heck of alot of more invested with your monthly and weekly lists. Occasionally you would hit on your daily list but not $500 a month worth. Try deducting what a person has spent like Sedertree does, then calculate it.... [ More ]

Reply #10

compulotto — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:09:25 GMT

Hello..visiondude ..wh

Reply #9

visiondude — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 04:32:00 GMT

david, now that i know your agenda , you picked the wrong guy to mess with. you see, i do my homework!! did a search on compulotto and found out what you are really all about. good thing i waited to post something until you did. your little scam about coming to lottery post and build yourself credibilty is going to fail. you should have never said anything to me and you would have gone farther.first of all you don't believe in god , truth, liberty and the american way. that is the battle... [ More ]

Reply #8

rundown99 — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:15:02 GMT

Most of the lottery winners win using quick pick tickets anyway.

Reply #7

compulotto — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 03:06:00 GMT

Interesting..You know, I thought from your comments that you were one of those folks that believes that god gives us everything and therefore tries to impose their will on everyone else. Wasn't there something in the book about helping yourself (somewhere).......Now with that said I really don't believe that you should be playing that one ticket because God will give you what you need even if you never play and win the Big One.So save your money and keep writing. But, I suggest that in the dai... [ More ]

Reply #6

visiondude — Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:55:40 GMT

compulotto, first of all thank's for contacting me. you can ask me any question about anything and i don't get offended. it doesn't bother me even if people do attack me (although i will defend myself). even if the conversation is between me another, as far as i am concerned you can still ask me anything. this is afterall a public forum. you never have to apologize again.the sentence that you quoted does not accurately describe fully how i feel. they were my words but taken out of context... [ More ]

Reply #5

compulotto — Mon, 16 Sep 2002 23:58:21 GMT

Hey visiondudeI just began to visit this lottery forum and I know and am known by a lot of people on the net about lottery info.I usually do not get involved in conversations that have nothing to do with me but your thread with sedertree piqued my interest. So here is my comment.It is not based upon and attack, just an observation.It is very interesting that someone with your attitude will spend his / her time in a lottery forum when they don't believe in and as you admitted don't and won't pla... [ More ]

Reply #4

visiondude — Fri, 06 Sep 2002 23:46:43 GMT

sedertree, it seems as if we have reached a reasonable place in our tossed together relationship. we will try as they say to agree even though we disagree . we have spoken and now unless something dictates otherwise, the numbers will speak .pretty much everyone know's my position about what you claim. not all know how i feel personally about the lottery issue. i do believe in fate . my life has a design behind it and that part of it is not random . i buy (1) quick pick only for ever... [ More ]

Reply #3

Sedertree — Fri, 06 Sep 2002 22:20:05 GMT

V.D.On the contrary, I love to be challenged. I just love a good debate. Especially when people say systems suck and are worthless.I take it personal when people say systems sellers are crooks. Even if a vague reference is made. I produce and sell lottery software, so that means I am attacked in those posts. If my lottery system software didn't beat the house edge I wouldn't be here today.Playing quick-picks gives the lottery an even greater advantage. Random generators picking a random dv... [ More ]

Reply #2

visiondude — Fri, 06 Sep 2002 21:10:49 GMT

sedertree, on a technical basis with the straight that came up on the first day of the challenge you have won based on our agreement that if you come out ahead at the end of the month. however, on a proven theory basis you have not. one hit does not constitute a proven theory over the long haul. that was the intent all along. to prove or dis-prove over the course of an agreed upon time. if anyone gives you total credibilty over one hit then they are totally missing the point.this is the

Reply #1

Sedertree — Fri, 06 Sep 2002 18:12:09 GMT

Now if you are quite through. See above post.

To Visiondude

Sedertree — Fri, 06 Sep 2002 08:58:03 GMT

V.D.I will no longer answer your posts or private messages. I will post my numbers as agreed for a month. Whatever you do at this point is all on you. I agree to nothing more.You told me I couldn't prove my system and I did. Just like Todd said, a quick and decisive victory. I'm sorry that you could not accept that defeat. If the shoe was on the other foot I would have conceeded with grace. I don't filch my bets.No more strutting, no more egos, no more explanations etc. Just numbers........ [ More ]