Got a question for all about systems

Reply #28

LottoPro — Tue, 08 Oct 2002 03:51:40 GMT

No need to fret. As a software engineer, I can tell you that the best way to protect trade secrets is to keep them secret. Smart engineers know how to only expose the phasod of their systems and not their system's inner workings. With this in mind, only the unwise futily attempt to pilfer the technology of others. But, once a system is published and copyrighted, any violators of that copyright are now at the mercy of the DMCA passed by congress several years ago. And, the DMCA is a real kil... [ More ]

Reply #27

AmuzingP3s — Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:42:36 GMT

RETXX - I think you might have forgotten, but Massachusetts was the feature state when I first posted the system at Maybell's. After I had come up with several wins with the method, you asked me to give you an example. Remember the message below? hi could you do an example for Mass. for me to follow line by line. I would appreciate it greatly. thanks or if you like to my e-mail (e-mail address deleted for privacy reasons).To which, I responded by e-mailing to you an example for Massachusetts: S... [ More ]

Reply #26

retxx — Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:35:21 GMT

hi I was wondering where rose's gold system is posted. it must have been one I missed. Did anyone try it for Mass. and if so any results to report? thanks.

Reply #25

emilyg — Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:57:17 GMT

i'm almost positive he meant luckyhorse.

Reply #24

Lottowiz34 — Mon, 07 Oct 2002 12:35:55 GMT

Yeah Sandy,I think there referring to LuckyHorse he stole ideas from a Lottery System developed 11yrs ago that no one heard about or forgot

Reply #23

Sandy K — Mon, 09 Sep 2002 00:28:35 GMT

Don't know quite what to do Rose. I have the saying, if you don't know what to do, do nothing. The answer will come. And it always has so I trust in that saying. I do see the point Old Hank was making but ...........I thought maybe it was directed at me. Going back and looking at it.......it could be taken two ways. I need to think on this awhile. Thank you for the post. Your Gold System is a great system and it is posted for all to see. I just didn't see any damage in all of it.... [ More ]

Reply #22

AmuzingP3s — Mon, 09 Sep 2002 00:15:54 GMT

Hi, Sandy, I can't blame you for feeling the way you do. However, I believe that the messages above are not implying that YOU will be the one to take others' ideas to develop/create/change/sell a system. The way I interpret the messages is that someone could/might do it. There's always that possibility. Whether a lottery system is great, good, not so good, etc., there will always be someone out there willing to pay for it; sometimes even out of curiosity. Some people buy systems just to see w... [ More ]

Reply #21

Teufellj — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:36:47 GMT

Hello there Oldhank and members,How about a suggestion that should cover plagerism and save some other folks feelings, ideas, and etc.? I would entertain the notion that: We have the moderator of this website restructure the Password/Id startup at entrance to this particular forum and add somewhere at the onset, an area for soft legal documentation of a method, train of thought or anything else pertaining to the games we discuss; with the date, time and what it may be called should we desire t... [ More ]

Reply #20

Rick G — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 19:59:34 GMT

Well said RJ from OH. I've been on these boards for a couple years now and I can smell a skunk as good as the rest but I still manage to get skunked. (BTW, Luckyhorse is STILL trying to sell Charles Perrine's system as his own on Maybell's).I got burned on one useless software package recently (my first and last lottery software purchase) and my advice to system/software buyers is to check out any free demos for the full length of the demo and decide after that if it's worth the purchase price... [ More ]

Reply #19

RJOh — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:42:53 GMT

I came across a lottery board where Lucky Horse is still trying to sell that Charles Perrine system. He tried for a while to sell Ken Silver system, but I don't think he made much money selling either because he didn't have a marketing plan. As I see it, to sell any system you got to do more than post a for sale sign on a lottery board, you got to market it and that cost money. People like Steve Player and Gail Howard probably put more money in marketing and supporting their systems with their... [ More ]

Reply #18

Pick 3 Fairy — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 14:10:20 GMT

SandyK, my advise to you is to just let it go. I feel in my heart that OldHank was talking about LuckyHorse who was notorious in stealing other people's ideas and selling them. OldHank was just trying to warn people to be careful. I do not think OldHank was directing anything to you. How can you be certain if you open and message board that someone like LuckyHorse doesn't come in contribute a little and steal a lot. That is all OldHank was trying to say. You are wasting your good energy on... [ More ]

Reply #17

Sandy K — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 13:51:26 GMT

I only brought up the money thing so everyone would realize that I don't need to steal so I could sell a system. I grew up dirt poor and I know what it is like. We didn't even have meat at meals.....lots of potatoes, tomatoes, etc. that my mother grew in her garden. I got my college education thru hard work and scholarships. I worked two jobs in the summer-one in an ice cream factory where sometimes I thought I had frost bite on my fingers they got so cold. Try packing popsicles for 8 hours a... [ More ]

Reply #16

Todd — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 13:48:55 GMT

You just have to remember that things always come across a little stronger in writing, so don't be too sensitive when reading posts. The original post in this thread is definitely referring to Luckyhorse, not anyone actively posting on this forum today. I'm sure everyone who witnessed all those posts from Luckyhorse several months back won't soon forget the moments when he was exposed as selling other people's systems. (Yes, moments with an s -- he got caught multiple times... [ More ]

Reply #15

harry613 — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 11:31:08 GMT

Sandy K: I must put

Reply #14

visiondude — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 03:31:52 GMT

sandy k, you are going to give up that easy? do you realize that the true visionaries in life don't give a rip what people think. they forge ahead no matter what. i cannot tell you how many times that people have tried to derail me from the things that i knew i had to do. if i would have listened to just one of them i would have never reached my destination. my life has quite a few of those stories. it is why i call myself visiondude. i sometimes know what my destiny is before it happens,... [ More ]

Reply #13

OldHank — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 01:08:51 GMT

Yep, George and Pick3 Fairy.....you hit the nail on the head.

Reply #12

OldHank — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:50:06 GMT

Ms SandyK,Let's try to straighten this out. Quote: Originally posted by Sandy K on September 07 2002 You are talking about me I was referring to the new forum you have been talking about,and it's requirements, not YOU personally and I have the right to defend myself. You only needed to share a system in order to view the numbers picked.ONLY? so, if you don't offer a system, then the forum would be of no value to you, right? what if, someone only has 1 workout, and someone else has already pres... [ More ]

Reply #11

Sandy K — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:37:09 GMT

I only said that about the house stuff, etc. to make a point, I don't need the money. I would never take advantage of someone else's system. If anyone wants to make me mad, all they have to do is question my moral character. I take pride in it. I wanted to stress that money isn't an issue with me. I don't want to fight with anyone; I am not a fighter. It sure seemed like it was directed at me. I still think so. Somehow, you and I have gotten turned in opposite directions. I don't know how it... [ More ]

Reply #10

Pick 3 Fairy — Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:22:50 GMT

George, that is who I think OldHank was referring to (Luckyhorse)(I hope this doesn't bring him forth again) Anyway, that is who I think and thought OldHank was talking about. Sandy, I never said you having a forum or message board was a slap in Todd's face, I just said his forum wasn't cluttered and was a wonderful forum. Afterall, you were the first to use the word cluttered . I don't have a big new home, an top Exec (but I still love him anyway), I also don't have a new boat, but I do ha... [ More ]

Reply #9

Sedertree — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:50:57 GMT

Sandy,I can't spea

Reply #8

Sandy K — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:30:07 GMT

You are talking about me and I have the right to defend myself. You only needed to share a system in order to view the numbers picked. I thought we could all do it together. Some people see the glass as half empty and some half full; I prefer half full. I have my own system. I don't need any other. I have had 50 requests in the last month to put out a hot sheet in an email format for money. I turned it down. All I wanted to do with the message board was to help others learn how to pick th... [ More ]

Reply #7

harry613 — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 22:56:34 GMT

OldHank and others,ex

Reply #6

OldHank — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 20:26:10 GMT

To gilla, reward, and Pick3 Fairy: THANKS! At least there are a few paying attention.Don't get me wrong. I am all for helping each other, but ya gotta be careful and know when help changes into being used or snookered .

Reply #5

Pick 3 Fairy — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 19:38:31 GMT

I fully agree with you OldHank. Sharing your system can sometimes be bad. Someone else can put other peoples systems together and before you know it they are selling them. I remember who you are talking about.

Reply #4

OldHank — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 18:27:55 GMT

Thanks, George. Im not worried about the copywrite thing for myself, since I dont plan on introducing a system/program for others to see. I was mainly concerned about the future new forum requirements where everyone has to share their workouts. Whoa! Before Im jumped on: maybe I didnt read the message correctly. But, I thought thats what was said.If I read correctly, and IF it is so, everyone please be aware of the consequencies: you could lose your system to someone else.If I mis-read the re... [ More ]

Reply #3

Sedertree — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:54:22 GMT

Old Hank,When I first shared my system with the lottery community two years ago. I was very open about how it all worked and the theory behind it. Someone warned me that what you just mentioned could happen to me if I was not careful.I immediately deleted all references to How and Why my system worked. I had to do some damage control and then devised some new innovative filtering techniques and algorithms for my system.Here is a link to the THE DIGITAL MILLENNIUM COPYRIGHT ACT OF 1998http

Reply #2

Reward — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:28:19 GMT

Thanks gilla. That's kinda what I had in mind. Sharing is great, but how much should one divulge in order to not have someone else profit from your work

Reply #1

gilla — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 16:21:45 GMT

hmmm? bake the goose that lays golden eggs or collect the eggs? I'm still perfecting my goose. hehe, it is good to share but how far will you go ? Good question

Got a question for all about systems

OldHank — Sat, 07 Sep 2002 15:27:27 GMT

What is everyone's opinion of sharing your special system/workout on live internet? Once you open it up to the public then someone else can take it, maybe improve it, change the name, and sell it, as their own creation, while you are left hanging . It may be that one particular knowledge/information that someone else is waiting for.I don't want to mention any names, but seems like a lot of us remember that one person who was always trying to sell someone else's program.What is your opin... [ More ]