Lottery programs

Reply #149

RJOh — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 00:41:08 GMT

I agree with you all.MikeK,The results are more or less common probability results, but if there are certain results you don't want to repeat like combinations of 4's and 5's, you need to check the previous data, besides a sampling of the data will give you these results a lot faster than going through all the probability calculations. I've never seen any combinations of 4's or greater repeat back to back.Apagogeas,I agree, if after you figure something using paper and pencil and you want to kno... [ More ]

Reply #148

BobP — Sat, 03 Apr 2004 00:10:28 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on April 02, 2004Pick4Fortunately I know a programming language, so when I think I need to know more on a regular basis, I write a routine into a program that will give me the answers. I use Lotto Pro which have data files in an ASCII format which allows my programs to read them. For example with one of my programs I can compare a file of MegaMillions with itself and get the following information: matched one 51-87 times/ave. 68 - 80%(62-72)matched two 3-12 tim... [ More ]

Reply #147

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:38:46 GMT

From my own experience with Lottery Software I have found programs like Gail Howard,Lottery Director,LottoHat,LottoPro just too name a few to be more than sufficient in providing enough information for me to use for selecting numbers.Anything more is a Bonus as far as I'm concerned but not necessary because I choose programs based on what they have and what I can do with it whether it's a small or large amount of features.That's why I said it's necessary to develop skills that will enable you to... [ More ]

Reply #146

lottoarchitect — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:40:06 GMT

I agree with you MikeK, these results are not a big deal to eliminate tickets. They represent the most common values to come so they are not of any important use. If you apply these to a wheel with 10000 tickets, you'll end with about 9000-10000 tickets too, so what?RJOh, you also say that a serious lotto player will use pencil and paper to reach any conclusions he wants. Why can't he just write a program to do so? It is much easier to code it than having to do the same thing on paper all over a... [ More ]

Reply #145

MikeK — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 22:27:48 GMT

RJOh,My question is: Would we need data bases to come up with these numbers?Are these results not more or less common probability results?Good Luck

Reply #144

RJOh — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:22:20 GMT

Pick4Fortunately I know a programming language, so when I think I need to know more on a regular basis, I write a routine into a program that will give me the answers. I use Lotto Pro which have data files in an ASCII format which allows my programs to read them. For example with one of my programs I can compare a file of MegaMillions with itself and get the following information: matched one 51-87 times/ave. 68 - 80%(62-72)matched two 3-12 times/ave. 12 - 80%(10-14)matched three 0-4 times/ave... [ More ]

Reply #143

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 20:09:38 GMT

What a Professional Player needs is already available in a handfull of existing programs it's just that the majority of players don't know how or have the time to learn how to use them.If Players want it easy they should use Quick-Picks if they want to work for there number hits then they will have to use there Intelligence and the Tools that are available.Not all of them are useful but the ones that are can help you out a great deal you just have to know which ones are good and which ones aren... [ More ]

Reply #142

RJOh — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:51:21 GMT

A good data management program will cost more than $100, but most lottery programs don't do a good job of managing or analyzing lottery data, so they are not worth a $100. Every lottery program I've ever tested did little more than show the history of the data. If you wanted to know more than the sums, ranges, gaps, combinations that had hit and etc., you had to get out paper and pencil and go to work. If anyone knows what a serious player really needs to know to make good choices in picking... [ More ]

Reply #141

BobP — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 16:10:06 GMT

I think VersaBet was the most expensive lottery software I've seen at $189. for the package, more if the parts were purchased individually and Joe has added additional things to buy. If you added them all up that would be the highest price I know of that's still being sold. Lotwin is rented not sold, so that can add up over the years.Gail Howard, Lotto Boss, EOL, hover around a hundred with add-ons. Been too long since I've looked at prices, but I'd top lottery software at about $99. for implu... [ More ]

Reply #140

lottoarchitect — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 09:05:15 GMT

BobP,I've seen many of these programs you say. Trust me on this, the only program I could say can possibly beat some odds is the freeware WinHunter program and I congratulate the programmer for his design. I think he is Andrew. Anyway, there are other programs as well not mentioned in the list (sold in Greece - no available websites) so I have a broaden opinion of features of lotto programs. My research starts back in 1995-6. Strangely enough, all these years no-one tried what I have in my mind.... [ More ]

Reply #139

BobP — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:30:14 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LottoDoc on April 01, 2004BobP, we updated the website to include a detailed explanation of what the software offers.Read the expanded overview. I get the feeling you are selling a collection of wheels with a software to load them. If that's the case most potential buyers would expect to see an index or menu and a screenshot, some idea what kind of computers it runs on, opperating system, etc.One problem for example is the mention a 12 number wheel requires 22 combi... [ More ]

Reply #138

BobP — Fri, 02 Apr 2004 04:00:31 GMT

How long has it been since you researched existing lottery software? I don't think any have been entirely frequency based since 1992. I agree they don't predict worth a damn, but I've seen almost everything imaginable applied to the problem, individually and in combination.Work your way through the list http://www.lotto-logix.com/lottosoft.htmlif nothing else it's a data mine for ideas that work and those that don't.Since none of the softwares are consistantly lucky, I switch around a lot hoping... [ More ]

Reply #137

lottoarchitect — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:56:31 GMT

BobP, let's get to the poin

Reply #136

LottoDoc — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 05:34:32 GMT

BobP, we updated the website to include a detailed explanation of what the software offers.

Reply #135

BobP — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 04:41:56 GMT

Fair enough, I don't think I'd like a magical predictor that didn't work.Now let me ask you a question. Pretend you're a regular lottery player who has tried a few lottery systems and software and is now looking to get a real edge on the game. Which classified ad/banner would you buy from?Lottery Software A: Offers a large collection of charts, wheels and filters for a complete lottery tool kit to study the game and reach your own conclusions.ORLottery Software B: Includes four powerful mathem... [ More ]

Reply #134

lottoarchitect — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 18:05:36 GMT

BobP, lets talk about predictive features.I'll ask you a simple question: suppose you have a predictive program in a sense that you click a button and the program produces tickets to play. You cannot do anaything during this process. All you do is press the button and get tickets. You don't know anything about the processes involved. In this case, would you trust these results? Would you play these tickets generated? Let me guess... NO. Do you know why? Because you'll feel put aside by the progr... [ More ]

Reply #133

BobP — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 17:01:35 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by apagogeas on March 31, 2004Hi BobP, if you have read the following text in the same webpage, you could probably understand how this accuracy is achieved. The main idea is to test how effective is to apply a particular method. This can lead to conclusions if it worths using a method or not. Surely, you cannot always be sure if a 'reliable' method will work well for the next draw to come but at least you know what results to expect by using the method. The program has a... [ More ]

Reply #132

lottoarchitect — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:54:34 GMT

Hi BobP, if you have read the following text in the same webpage, you could probably understand how this accuracy is achieved. The main idea is to test how effective is to apply a particular method. This can lead to conclusions if it worths using a method or not. Surely, you cannot always be sure if a 'reliable' method will work well for the next draw to come but at least you know what results to expect by using the method. The program has automated processes to handle most of these issues and... [ More ]

Reply #131

BobP — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:30:32 GMT

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Reply #130

BobP — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:17:23 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LottoDoc on March 29, 2004I chose to share it with others, and I am sharing my knowledge at www.lottodoc.comWhy not help others become better Lotto players.Perhaps you could provide the direct link to the sharing knowledge section of your web site. I looked and only found the selling part, which wasn't very clear exactly what the $14.95 buys, kinda vague with no menu, demo, screenshots, samples or anything I could find to tempt me.

Reply #129

lottoarchitect — Wed, 31 Mar 2004 00:03:17 GMT

Quote: O

Reply #128

LottoDoc — Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:55:49 GMT

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Reply #127

lottosyncman — Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:52:08 GMT

could you be dr. vaygai out of chase b.c. if its you you are very popular in the lotto world and the amounts i have seen you win in the luck magazine really go beyond just chance if it isnt you then hey there fellow CANUCK! GO CANUCKS GO

Reply #126

LottoDoc — Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:21:11 GMT

I chose to share it with others, and I am sharing my knowledge at www.lottodoc.comWhy not help others become better Lotto players.

Reply #125

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:16:06 GMT

Yes I have corresponded with him briefly on it and will definitely be purchasing a copy when it's ready.

Reply #124

spock — Sat, 27 Mar 2004 18:20:25 GMT

Pick-4 master.Have you had a look at lotto architect it looks very promising . I like the way the creator has asked people on this forum for input.Cannot wait for it to be completed.

Reply #123

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 27 Mar 2004 16:05:52 GMT

I based my decision on reading all the information regarding there software's capabilities,features and functions and how they can help me with my number analysis.I also looked at the screen shots to see how easy it was to access there analysis charts and how they worked.Lottery software is a TOOL and with all tools you have to make sure its the right one for the job.There's a lot of software on the internet not all good but the ones that are will be well worth the price provided you know how to... [ More ]

Reply #122

spock — Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:30:50 GMT

Hi pick-4 master.I have read your comments on the lotto for some time i always find them interesting ,I was surprised you found dandelion software excellent can you explain why and which programs?What is that prediction pyramid program about and did one of the other programs take weather conditions into account?? when picking numbers.

Reply #121

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 12:23:24 GMT

Dandelion Software has some EXCELLENT Lottery ProgramsI plan on buying several of them.

Reply #120

goose — Mon, 08 Mar 2004 11:59:22 GMT

jadelotteryhttp://www.pgysoft.com/english/index.aspI worked in this lottery company a year ago and now their perdiction is quite like yours--pyramid..see if yuo can learn something from it..but for me,its like a rubbish..all out of dategoose

Reply #119

goose — Mon, 01 Mar 2004 15:08:09 GMT

now chill you guys

Reply #118

Millennium — Mon, 01 Mar 2004 15:03:18 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Johnny5 on February 27, 2004If you cannot see this. Then you are as bad as a quick-pick.In my case, I don't want to see it. You have posted Pick 6 results. I limit my interest to Pick 3 only. You have to take into account that some people -- or at least me -- are just not interested in every kind of lottery.

Reply #117

goose — Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:17:01 GMT

There's an aweful lot of 41's in there....

Reply #116

Andrew — Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:13:15 GMT

There's an aweful lot of 41's in there....

Reply #115

goose — Sat, 28 Feb 2004 03:13:02 GMT

hi johnnythese numbers are very randomly arranged.and theres nothing wrong with a trained eye or a normal eye.If you have any better proof that those numbers are not that random,please tell us.goose

Reply #114

Johnny5 — Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:54:36 GMT

Oh thats nice of you goose. share the result.. as in lets rub it in.. lets tell the whole forum how you are still talking to us because you won big time..Goose.. I don't know you, but that was a fake statement if I ever heard one.If you are unwilling to share systems.. then I presume the norme. You won't share the other either.!!But in any case .. here sharing... I have posted this in as many places as I could.. to show about systems...cuz thats what Im about.. sharing.. so that all can have abu... [ More ]

Reply #113

goose — Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:54:59 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Paid 2 Lotto on February 20, 2004 I would share it....If I won some $250 mil. Jackpot..I wouldn't needed any more money...what for?I don't have to become the richest man of the world.I DONT AGREE...I can share the result but never the system or any secret!And I dont need to have much much money either.goose

Reply #112

Millennium — Tue, 24 Feb 2004 13:49:53 GMT

Has this thread died then

Reply #111

Andrew — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:52:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on February 18, 2004On another note lets keep personal abuse out of the arena; attack the ideas or the logic .Colin F

Reply #110

Paid 2 Lotto — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 08:46:27 GMT

I would share it....If I won some $250 mil. Jackpot..I wouldn't needed any more money...what for?I don't have to become the richest man of the world.

Reply #109

hypersoniq — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 07:26:43 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Andrew on February 18, 2004 WINHunter already boasts several user conceived Processors, which no other software has available.I like the Announcers processor, nice one...If you find that neural net code, could you post it or send me a copy?hypersoniq@comcast.netThanks.PS. I remember reading at LT's forum about at least one user porting WH to VB.NET, how is that going? Also, how did the distributed tests go

Reply #108

Colin F — Fri, 20 Feb 2004 05:28:15 GMT

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, 188Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Hamlet, Prince of Denmark William ShakespeareI'm sure others would like to comment especially on your SQL remarks.Colin F

Reply #107

Andrew — Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:39:07 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on February 18, 2004 The data you need to give would require you to construct a Conputer Model. This Model would allow you to set the number of draws to run, the number of games to play, whether the Draw Source is from a Lotto History or randomly generated, whether the games to play are from a filtered set or randomly generated and then it would need to calculate the wins. The number of Draws to run I would suggest as say 1234 and the number of runs say at lea... [ More ]

Reply #106

Millennium — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:54:26 GMT

Andrew: I really think you should read The Predictors. You'd get a real kick of it. It's right up your alley.Does your software involve neural nets at all? Have you ever programmed them?Now that PalmOS is moving to version 6 (aka Cobalt, ARM-native), I hope someone will create an elementary neural net programming system for it.VB.net? No C

Reply #105

Colin F — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:52:32 GMT

AndrewThe data you need to give would require you to construct a Conputer Model. This Model would allow you to set the number of draws to run, the number of games to play, whether the Draw Source is from a Lotto History or randomly generated, whether the games to play are from a filtered set or randomly generated and then it would need to calculate the wins. The number of Draws to run I would suggest as say 1234 and the number of runs say at least 5.To construct this Model will take you a while.... [ More ]

Reply #104

Andrew — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:36:25 GMT

I didnt get the code for the neural net software, jsut the exe's. Besides, that was over 8 years ago! My PC was a 486 at the time even... I don't even begin to pretend to know how he arranged his nodes in the neural net, but I do understand the concepts.A neural net (when developed and trained properly) can take a set of data, and make some logical sense out of it, and can begin to predict outcomes based upon input data. The nodes in the net train themselves based upon past historical data... [ More ]

Reply #103

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:30:18 GMT

Yes,how long ago was it when you recieved that code? I have a friend in CA who's in the Lottery business and knows a lot of developers\programmers.My friend was a Beta-Tester for many programs some are still on the market most are not.

Reply #102

Andrew — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:26:02 GMT

Neural Net

Reply #101

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:25:21 GMT

How about putting the Code in WinHunter

Reply #100

Andrew — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:22:41 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Millennium on February 18, 2004 This is an interesting thread that I hope will continue.To the WinHunter author: Have you ever thought about producing a version that can run on a PDA (PalmOS or Pocket PC)?(It's particularly ironic to see Lottoscorp reply to LaurainMass -- especially after being outed in another thread as the *same person*!)Oh, I have to add:Several years ago -- I don't know how many -- I saw *two* reports on TV news about some guy in Massachusetts w... [ More ]

Reply #99

Andrew — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:16:25 GMT

Colin,One more thing...https://www.lotterypost.com/threads.asp?ForumID=1 TopicID=81684 PagePosition=1 ThreadPage=1Excalibur is requesting the initial version of WINHunter. Perhaps you should look at it, then go back to the new version and give some feedback. Also, goto the origional homepage here http://winhunter.freeservers.com/ and look at the what's new page http://winhunter.freeservers.com/whats_new.html. Alot of the project goals have been met, somehow or another. And with the help of... [ More ]

Reply #98

Millennium — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:09:21 GMT

This is an interesting thread that I hope will continue.To the WinHunter author: Have you ever thought about producing a version that can run on a PDA (PalmOS or Pocket PC)?(It's particularly ironic to see Lottoscorp reply to LaurainMass -- especially after being outed in another thread as the *same person*!)Oh, I have to add:Several years ago -- I don't know how many -- I saw *two* reports on TV news about some guy in Massachusetts who broke the algorithm to the lottery and was sharing the... [ More ]

Reply #97

Andrew — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:37:25 GMT

Colin F,http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s= postid=44085#post24973It all depends on what you configure WINHunter to do, and what game you are playing.

Reply #96

Webmaster L — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:16:47 GMT

RJOH--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------No one who have constantly cashed in winning lottery tickets have ever come forward to explain their system, not even professional gamblers who buy winning lottery tickets in a tax evasion scheme. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I have never met you but our thinking is on the same pageLike Rick Ricardo us... [ More ]

Reply #95

goose — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 14:46:12 GMT

There are too many methods and systems.Now what we need most is some really good predictions

Reply #94

Andrew — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:14:33 GMT

Colin F,I once again, invite you to take part in the prediction trials being discussed in the RGL newsgroup. They too, discuss scientific methods to prove prediction concepts.

Reply #93

Andrew — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 13:10:50 GMT

Colin F,http://www.lotto649.ws/forumdisplay.php?s= forumid=37 daysprune=1000 sortorder=desc sortfield=lastpost perpage=25 pagenumber=4Review the trail posts from this search.I will compile the results and list them here for you, based on what was posted (with random numbers).The Canadian lottery results can be found here... http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s= threadid=1659 But according to their results, their stacks didn't perform much better than random chance. I quote one of the trial... [ More ]

Reply #92

Colin F — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 00:55:03 GMT

AndrewObfuscate as much as you like - you won't convince me of anything other than your shirking the issue.My methods are refined using Random Numbers, tested against Random Numbers then tested against Lotto Histories. Within the band of 300% to 400% better than Random Selections they are the same. My method of testing would satisfy what is referred to as the Scientific Method.Subject your program to the same tests and let us know the results. I suspect the reason no one has done so in this foru... [ More ]

Reply #91

Andrew — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 14:27:48 GMT

Colin F,Dang, I had a reply all worked up and somehow it never posted...Anyway. What I had said, was that a test was run last year during the month of March. Several users posted predictions from the software, along with Random numbers generated by Random.ORG. I myself only participated in the trial for the first week.The results brought out two distinct issues.Random numbers out performed the user designed stacks in that test example.That the user designed stacks was only a small set of poss... [ More ]

Reply #90

goose — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:41:17 GMT

you cant invent any system that really works unless you do some real predictions.Prediction before the draw is never easy as you thought would be.Actually there would be many troubles for you if you claim you have cracked the lottery and even sell it.Smart people wouldnt choose to do that.He might share the results with people but never selling that .

Reply #89

hypersoniq — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:30:02 GMT

I have winhunter... you need to also download the source and read through it from within Visual Studio to really appreciate the treasure trove of information contained there. If you want a prettier UI, it is open source, you could add your own.The only thing I noticed is that I had to modify the Powerball data file because in the first line it counted the second machine as 1/53 rather than the 1/42 it is, that was easily fixed with notepad. Also, I eliminated all data prior to the current matrix... [ More ]

Reply #88

Colin F — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:52:47 GMT

AndrewCertainly, just after I see your $1,000,000,000,000 deposit into my Bank Account.Alternatively, you could use your undoubted programming skills to test your program by using Random Selections and Random Draws as outlined in previous Posts of mine and let us know the result.I commend you on your response- no abuse- just a taunt. I think if we keep this civilised there could be a positive result.Kind regardsColin F

Reply #87

Andrew — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:21:22 GMT

Colin,Would you be so kind as to email a copy of your spreadsheet/DB/code to me?winhunterai@users.sourceforge.netAlso, you may want to read this thread, it describes in better detail exactly why WINHunter was written the way it was written.http://www.lotto649.ws/showthread.php?s= threadid=2147

Reply #86

Andrew — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:11:29 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on February 11, 2004 I've had a bit of a look at your WinHunter Program. To be honest I got bored.Sorry mate.It basically came across as an exercise in Class Creation. It has no real user interface. Now I'm sure you would get lots of marks for it in a Computer Science Course but as a practical bit of programming it's a dud.Again, Im sorry you feel that way. I thought a plugin architecture would best enable other users to develop their own classes . Besides,... [ More ]

Reply #85

Colin F — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 23:45:30 GMT

AndrewI've had a bit of a look at your WinHunter Program. To be honest I got bored.It basically came across as an exercise in Class Creation. It has no real user interface. Now I'm sure you would get lots of marks for it in a Computer Science Course but as a practical bit of programming it's a dud.Do something constructive in Access or Excell and I will contribute. There are lots of little functions I have that I don't mind helping out others with.Now before you get on your high horse check out... [ More ]

Reply #84

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:07:08 GMT

I'm not a Christian I'm Catholic

Reply #83

goose — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:00:03 GMT

this is the difference between a christian and a non-christian

Reply #82

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:44:44 GMT

Amen Brother

Reply #81

Johnny5 — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:05:21 GMT

For what I C. Everyone is in a world of who can do it and who can not. Well I will tell you all .. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE... I will take on your stupid challanges.. or anything of the like.. You know why.. because all it will prove is just how random the lotto really is.Look.. I don't care what any of you have for sale or not. The fact is that if it is or not for sale.. Lotto Programs will by proven fact.. help Lotto Players get closer to winning than if they don't use some type of probable cal... [ More ]

Reply #80

Andrew — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:04:01 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by LaurainMass on January 21, 2004 I beg to differ Pick-4-Master,that system would have to hit everyday and flip like the lottery flips.In fact that system would have to be the end-all-to-be-all system.In fact,that is the kind of system I would want to share and sell lol.People should always make a point to thrive for perfection.Star Trek was purely someones fantasy and now we have cell phones,Tazers and wrist televisions and Space Shuttles and even better,Laptop Compute... [ More ]

Reply #79

goose — Fri, 23 Jan 2004 13:39:14 GMT

a working lotto system dont need more than 10 draws to make a 4+1 winner

Reply #78

hypersoniq — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:06:52 GMT

the only way a system can possibly be considered successful is if you get more $$$ than you spend... this can be over time, but not a LONG time.PA cash 3straight for $1 = $500boxed for $1 = $80A 10 ticket system would cost $20 per day, on a 30 day cycle, this would cost $600to be a working system, this would need to produce 1 straight and 2 box hits in that time frame, or 8 box hits.on a weekly basis, 7 days = $140, you would need 1 straight or 2 boxed hits.if you play mid and evening, then doub... [ More ]

Reply #77

reddog — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:02:22 GMT

In Virginia, a combo costs

Reply #76

lottoscorp — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 00:40:03 GMT

Well Ms La

Reply #75

LaurainMass — Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:36:19 GMT

I beg to differ Pick-4-Master,that system would have to hit everyday and flip like the lottery flips.In fact that system would have to be the end-all-to-be-all system.In fact,that is the kind of system I would want to share and sell lol.People should always make a point to thrive for perfection.Star Trek was purely someones fantasy and now we have cell phones,Tazers and wrist televisions and Space Shuttles and even better,Laptop Computers.Laurajean

Reply #74

LaurainMass — Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:25:16 GMT

Hey All,If I invented a Lotto System that works.I would share it and sell it.Because that would be some system lol.Laurajean

Reply #73

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:33:39 GMT

That's so true a lottery system doesn't have to hit all the time if it one day each week or twice a month that's better than quick-picks.

Reply #72

BobP — Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:52:34 GMT

Where do we get the idea a lottery system would have to win every time to be useful to lottery players?Somewhere between wins every time and doesn't work what-so-ever is a lot of room for a system that is helpful to lottery players.Can you point me toward any tests that prove a lottery system doesn't improve your chances even slightly over probability? The lottery is vast. Isn't it possible a good system could tilt the scales a little bit our way for a couple of hundred years and still fall wit... [ More ]

Reply #71

sumday — Wed, 21 Jan 2004 03:12:44 GMT

Reply #70

rundown99 — Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:54:22 GMT

This must be the longest running thread since the Cash VS Annuity debate from early 2003.

Reply #69

BobP — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:07:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by bobby623 on January 05, 2004 If the same person showed up at the lottery office to claim a jackpot more than once, lottery security would be out in force. I don't think anyone has won more than once in any given lotto. I read where a man won two jackpots using the same numbers in two different state lotteries. But, when you come right down to it, there will never be a number generator that will win consistently. In Texas, the lottery uses 3 different machines, 4 ball... [ More ]

Reply #68

bobby623 — Tue, 06 Jan 2004 14:43:45 GMT

Was thinking 'moot' but typed 'mute

Reply #67

bobby623 — Tue, 06 Jan 2004 02:47:37 GMT

If the same person showed up at the lottery office to claim a jackpot more than once, lottery security would be out in force. I don't think anyone has won more than once in any given lotto. I read where a man won two jackpots using the same numbers in two different state lotteries. But, when you come right down to it, there will never be a number generator that will win consistently. In Texas, the lottery uses 3 different machines, 4 ball sets and runs minimum of 4 pretests prior to actual draw... [ More ]

Reply #66

johnph77 — Mon, 05 Jan 2004 23:25:46 GMT

Cash Only -The heading in my previous reply/post is a misnomer, but the possibilities and odds are correct for a 5/56 + 1/49 game. Your query reminded me that (for some time) I've needed to update the spreadsheet I use for these calculations with the proper headings and add the column for the hits. It's done now. Thanks and gl.

Reply #65

CASH Only — Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:33:49 GMT

John:I suggested a new MM version on another forum (5/56+1/49) Figure the odds on that one.

Reply #64

johnph77 — Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:36:38 GMT

yepgl

Reply #63

CASH Only — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 19:20:42 GMT

john:gl-good luck

Reply #62

johnph77 — Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:29:09 GMT

RJOh -ty for the kind words. Rummage around the site and you'll find the same info for state and casino Keno games.gljohn

Reply #61

RJOh — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:31:35 GMT

Johnph,You are correct. I'm sorry, my calculations were for MM (5/52 + 1/52) and I didn't think of taking that result to the 10th power rather than multiplying it by 10. Checked out your webpage, you know your math.RJOh

Reply #60

johnph77 — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:41:53 GMT

Hmmmmm. I've calculated the odds as 1::120,526,770. Am I getting something wrong? Formula is ((53*52*51*50*49)/(1*2*3*4*5))*42 = 120526770. One-tenth of that number is 12052677 and the quoted number in my post is that number to the 10th power. Hitting it 10 times in a row would require you to beat the odds each time for 10 consecutive games. Once you've beaten the odds in the first game you face identical odds for the second and each following game.

Reply #59

RJOh — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:23:36 GMT

The odds of winning once with 10 tickets is 1:13,514,592. Wouldn't the chances of doing it 10 times in a row be ten times that? Or do other factors effect the odds?RJOh

Reply #58

johnph77 — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:56:02 GMT

Yes, you CAN win the Powerball jackpot 10 times in a row with just 10 picks each time. The odds of doing so are about:1::65,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000Good Luck

Reply #57

RJOh — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 05:38:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by lottoking on November 24, 2003 Pick4 is just a piece of cake to me! Lottoking,Your 20,000 combinations didn't win MegaMillions, but you will be able to cover all possible combinations for Pick4 with 10,000 combinations. You might win but you will be $5,000 in the hole. The idea is to win more than you spend. RJOh

Reply #56

CASH Only — Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:56:31 GMT

I suppose Lottery New$ stopped working after 2000.

Reply #55

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:34:04 GMT

No I'm not yelling at you but why do you keep on asking me to Challenge you? I told you I don't PREDICT numbers because I'm not a PSYCHIC and I have nothing to be afraid of your only HUMAN not GOD.Maybe you don't understand me clearly so I think we should end this discussion because your starting to sound CHILDISH I'm an Adult not a Kid only children challenge each other to see who's better at something like Fighting,Basketball,Racing,Arm Wrestling or Video games.We are gambling the only thing I... [ More ]

Reply #54

lottoking — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:02:40 GMT

LOL,pick4 master,Are you yelling out loud to me?take it easy.You denied my challenge because you are scared of a real prediction.You have to know that a real prediction is just like taking an exam.The final score is totally relied on your real partipating instead of exercises as usual.Why are you so scared to face a real prediction?You just need more practise!about winning within ten times on powerball ten tickets a time,whp knows?Maybe that day will come soon.But even if I predicted thr right n... [ More ]

Reply #53

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:37:39 GMT

Can you WIN Powerball that many times? if so then you shouldn't even be here in the FORUM you should be on some exotic island sipping Pina-Colada's.Too be honest with you I don't believe anyone could do that not even you and as for why I rely on Software it's because it makes things easier and faster for me when selecting my numbers.It shows me exactly what's going on with the numbers and there variables.Your absolutely right no Software is smarter or more powerful than Human Intelligence that's... [ More ]

Reply #52

lottoking — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:02:11 GMT

so I am wondering if you could accept my invition to predict for pick4?we will predict together and see who wins?No software is more powerful than a human's brian

Reply #51

lottoking — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:57:53 GMT

You get traped in lotto now.pick4 master.Lets not talk about whose methods is the smartest and big investment.A simple question for you:CAN YOU POSSIBLY WIN POWERBALL TEN TIMES WITH 10 DRAWS A TIME?NO,YOU CAN NOT.Why do you reply on software?AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHINGPick4 is just a piece of cake to me!I can win without anysoftware analystlottoking

Reply #50

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:43:45 GMT

Yes the Pick-4 is different than the Pick-5\6 games but the same method applies just choose twice as many numbers to wheel in order to TRAP the winning combination.And your correct that you would have to play A LOT of numbers in order to win everytime more than 1 draw that's called HANDICAPPING in Gambling of any kind you need to bend the odds in your favor as much as possible.But you can reduce the amount of combinations to a reasonable playing level by using FILTERS this is the Smartest... [ More ]