Which statistics are important?

Reply #48

WILLSELL — Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:29:23 GMT

All numbers have mathmatica

Reply #47

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:55:01 GMT

So it DOES WORK

Reply #46

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:49:36 GMT

I've never hit the numbers using LUCK only using STATISTICAL ANALYSIS.

Reply #45

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:47:35 GMT

I have to agree on that because when you don't have LUCK or don't believe in it what do you do? not play noplay the odds\statistics all of the numbers don't come up at the same time only 4,5 or 6 of them.And only 1 sum,odd-even and low-high will come with the numbers so based on there statistical average you can play a group that is due to HIT.

Reply #44

WIN D — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 13:21:41 GMT

Why are Statistics important? That was the topic. There are 2 games going on at the same time that are important. Playing and Betting. You are not going to win most of the time, so you better make hay while the sun shines. My bets are several times over average today on the Midday game. Why? Statistics. I have no luck. That's why Statistics are important to me. It's all I have. Odd roots will outnumber even roots for the next several days on the Ga. Midday. I will be playing in that half of the... [ More ]

Reply #43

RJOh — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 12:39:33 GMT

Mr Steel,The drunk was captain of the PT-108Jack Kennedy was captain of the PT-109 and went on to become President of the U.S.A.RJOh

Reply #42

MrSteel01 — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:31:54 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 22, 2003 >Your own reference material backs this up 1 in 67,108.864 . Thats why its a good bet that an Odd or a HIGH number will flip back after this 50/50 single dvent action goes 7, 8, or 9 times is a row. The odds never change but the probability keeps going up. Get it? <We've been through this before. So give me a real world application. How would you use this system to win at pick 3? Simple system 3 digit!make a copy of all 3 digit fo... [ More ]

Reply #41

MrSteel01 — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 10:18:44 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on September 22, 2003 Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003I have read that a lot of people missed some numbers of a lottery draw by 1, or at most a few numbers off. What does that really represent? Are you close? ............................................Those words reminded me of a cartoon I once read when President Kennedy was in office. It showed a drunk at a bar telling the sad story of how he missed out on being the president... [ More ]

Reply #40

Thomas Covenant — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 09:04:35 GMT

>Your own reference material backs this up 1 in 67,108.864 . Thats why its a good bet that an Odd or a HIGH number will flip back after this 50/50 single dvent action goes 7, 8, or 9 times is a row. The odds never change but the probability keeps going up. Get it? <We've been through this before. So give me a real world application. How would you use this system to win at pick 3

Reply #39

RJOh — Mon, 22 Sep 2003 01:58:27 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003 I have read that a lot of people missed some numbers of a lottery draw by 1, or at most a few numbers off. What does that really represent? Are you close? ............................................ Those words reminded me of a cartoon I once read when President Kennedy was in office. It showed a drunk at a bar telling the sad story of how he missed out on being the president of the U.S.A. by one number. It seems he had been t... [ More ]

Reply #38

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 23:29:27 GMT

TOO MUCH PROOF in my opinion but if that's how you play the game good luck on your journey to that winning ticket.Just prove it too yourself and if it doesn't work then you just proved that it DOESN'T WORK FOR YOU but don't include everyone else in your analogy of what works and what's possible or not.Someone out there has better ideas then you or me and is not willing to accept NO IT CAN'T BE DONE or IT'S NOT POSSIBLE as an answer to everything.

Reply #37

Prometheus1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:46:13 GMT

Roughly speaking, those odds are slightly longer than throwing heads on 26 successive tosses of a fair coin. (That unlikely dvent has odds of 1 in 67,108,864.) Given that most people would be reluctant to bet on getting 5 heads in a row, let alone 26, this comparison makes it clear that the psychology of lotteries has a logic all of its own. Devlins Angle) Thomas, I read one of the articles you suggested in your post. Most of the material deals with single dvent odds and probability. The key... [ More ]

Reply #36

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 22:26:22 GMT

I'm skeptical about everything, Pick4Master. That is my personality. That is my thought process. But being skeptical does not mean closed minded. I just need a high level of proof.

Reply #35

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:55:53 GMT

Besides Emily your a GAMBLER not a LOTTERY NUMBER PREDICTOR so you play the numbers for your enjoyment and benefit.Plus your not being paid to provide numbers for other players I use to want others to give me winning numbers until I realised I could do it myself also if your numbers don't hit your all of a sudden a fraud or people are complaining about the numbers you give.I don't give numbers because it interferes with my concentration not only am I trying to make intelligent decisions but I've... [ More ]

Reply #34

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:50:10 GMT

I know the balls don't have memory I have read countless things about this,how do you know adding filters to numbersin a wheel don't work? have you tried it personally? it hasnothing to do with whether the balls have memory or not WE ARE GAMBLING Thomas I don't mean to be insulting but for someone that obviously has intelligence you don't sound very smart you sound like those people from the Middle Ages who said the world was flat and this or that cannot be done or true because we believe othe... [ More ]

Reply #33

emilyg — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 21:36:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003Emilyg, but do you share exactly which numbers you bet, on a daily basis, so we could add up profit and loss? Probably not. I know you don't have to prove anything to anybody. But why wouldn't you? What stops you from allowing people to see exactly how much you make? or lose.thomas i don't post what numbers i play - because i would feel very bad if other people played them and did not win. i can afford $20.00 a day - if i don't win... [ More ]

Reply #32

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:57:19 GMT

So basically you wheel numbers and then filter using the odd, even, hot, cold etc standard. Wheeling has been around for as long as there has been lotteries. Hot, cold, even, odd really doesn't work, the balls have no memory.Click hereclick hereclick hereclick hereclick hereclick here

Reply #31

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 20:25:30 GMT

I've EXPLAINED many times how you can try and TRAP the winning numbers instead of trying to PREDICT them.I've done it,not enough to make a living off of but enough to keep me from buying quick-picks.There's really nothing to prove because it may not work for everyone but it has worked for me so just because you can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done.It's a strategy if it didn't WORK AT ALL I wouldn't waste my time using it so if I'm using it then obviously there is a reason for that.And to be... [ More ]

Reply #30

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 19:05:37 GMT

I do remember apologizing for that remark. Normally I don't insult anyone personally. And if I have, I again apologizie to anyone who may have taken anything I said personally. What do you mean exactly by I cheat on my answers? I know of no way to predict the lottery, or trap numbers, or use the natural cosmic forces associated with number vibrations cross referenced with the price of rice in china on cloudy thursdays. People make statements, I say prove it. No one has proven it. The lottery i... [ More ]

Reply #29

Prometheus1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:51:10 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003 Hypersoniq, You have to realize that Prometheus likes to use eloquent speech and big words to say nothing at all. He also likes to be slightly insulting. Since you seem to be able to carry on a discussion I'll direct my comments to you. Thomas, please. I can pull done several vulgar quotes and insults that you have made on this forum and, within this week too. Your insults and insinuations have not won you many friends here. To u... [ More ]

Reply #28

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:25:58 GMT

Emilyg, but do you share exactly which numbers you bet, on a daily basis, so we could add up profit and loss? Probably not. I know you don't have to prove anything to anybody. But why wouldn't you? What stops you from allowing people to see exactly how much you make? or lose.

Reply #27

emilyg — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:12:26 GMT

tc - i shared my evening pairs for ga.

Reply #26

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:51:38 GMT

If there are players out there who are making a living playing pick 3/4 they are certainly not posting on this forum. There are people here who claim they do, but they haven't exactly shared their knowledge or their picks.

Reply #25

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:32:41 GMT

Let me correct my statement about not making a living from the Pick-3/4 games if there are players out there doing so then I have to say that it's POSSIBLE if you have discoverd a strategy to do so. I'm currently working on mine

Reply #24

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 17:28:55 GMT

I currently live in Miami,FL not far from Homestead maybe like 10-20 min or so.Iwas stationed at Andrews Air Force base from '88-90 anyway in response to your comment You may see patterns but these patterns are not predictable that's not entirely correct yes if you are trying to predict a single PATTERN or VARIABLE yes that cannot be done (I've tried)like 1 odd-3 even numbers or the Sum of 15 or a Single Repeat Number Pattern the key is to select MORE as a small GROUP like I've mentioned for... [ More ]

Reply #23

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:40:38 GMT

Hyper, If the lottery is stochastic I don't think the results can be determined by using the usual odd, even, hot, cold formula. The few people willing to post their predictions have failed. All the formulas have be done and redone with no repeatable results. You may see patterns, but these patterns are not predictable.

Reply #22

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:05:56 GMT

Pick 4 master, I was stationed in Homestead Fl, from 1988 until 1992.

Reply #21

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 16:04:15 GMT

Hypersoniq, You have to realize that Prometheus likes to use eloquent speech and big words to say nothing at all. He also likes to be slightly insulting. Since you seem to be able to carry on a discussion I'll direct my comments to you.

Reply #20

hypersoniq — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:47:34 GMT

I must have missed the part where TC said anything about cheating....

Reply #19

Prometheus1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 15:26:39 GMT

It didn't work then and it doesn't work now quote...Thomas Covanant. . That's the highlight?Thomas, the basic mapping of key concepts is pregant with math relevant associations. OK you didn't get the answer to the math problem back in the 80's so now your answer is to cheat? Now Thomas....that's not interes... [ More ]

Reply #18

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:38:18 GMT

Now when you say 80's exactly what part of the 80's the early or late? because Florida didn't enact it's Lottery until 1988.

Reply #17

hypersoniq — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:25:41 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Thomas Covenant on September 21, 2003 The little balls in the drum don't know they are suppose to follow a mathemathical process. they do however follow a stochastic process, it's up to us to identify it and project it onto the next draw...as for the trapping statistics, if it works for you, by all means have at it... I just think that a solution cannot be found until the problem is properly identified.

Reply #16

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:16:21 GMT

Thomas Your absolutely RIGHT for those people trying to PREDICT the EXACT 3,4,5 or 6 numbers this is true but those people who have a different approach of playing a GROUP of numbers based on the variables associated with them through out a draw history it doesn't.They are trying to TRAP the exact winning numbers in there GROUP using strategies,software and skill.The sums,odds,evens,due and overdue are used for combination reduction or indicators of which numbers to place in your group of... [ More ]

Reply #15

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:51:40 GMT

>Not that your wrong, mind you. We would just have a little more confidence if it came from someone that had spent some time and effort, and actually worked at this.<Who said I never worked at this? I went through all this with the flordia lottery back in the 80's. I even used a 8086 computer programing in Basic. The wheeling system I bought was a paper wheel. Computers are faster now and the wheeling systems are programs, but the theories are the same. Odd, even, hot, cold, sums, etc. Everythin... [ More ]

Reply #14

Prometheus1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 12:13:24 GMT

quote Thomas Covenant>This made me think about what's going on here. You guys are searching odds, evens, hot, cold, etc becauses it's easier than figuring out the real causes of which number comes up in a lottery draw. But like the man in the parking lot, you will never find your keys because you are looking in the wrong place.< OK Thomas,your on. How can you make that statement? Hoping that this will be interesting and not just another diatribe of cannot nuh-u... [ More ]

Reply #13

hypersoniq — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 09:57:32 GMT

I think I can explain this

Reply #12

MrSteel01 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:51:02 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on September 19, 2003 actually, they may as well be letters...the numbers only serve to identify which balls were drawn. this concept is one I missed at first. when we are counting, 10 is more than one, when it comes to lottery results, 10 has no more or less value than 1, it's just another ball.if a 5, 10 and 15 come out together frequently... it has NOTHING to do with the fact that all are divisible by 5, it just happens that those 3 balls come up togethe... [ More ]

Reply #11

MrSteel01 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 03:39:31 GMT

You all are finally thinking in one direction!Drawings/data/reapeating sets/groups/odds-even/sums!Hope you see the light! And right numbers!How about football? Play/pay a guy from college $40 Mill to win but does'nt score till 3/4 quarter. Almost all the time but you keep him in their because you paid him $ 40 Mill you want to get your moneys worth. But don't most teams have 2 quarterbacks? So why don't they play BOTH? Or start the rookie first! I thought the IDEA WAS to WIN! Not to worry h... [ More ]

Reply #10

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 02:41:43 GMT

I have read that a lot of people missed some numbers of a lottery draw by 1, or at most a few numbers off. What does that really represent? Are you close? The numbers represent which ball comes up. Let's say you picked 12 as the first ball in the powerball lottery. That means an entirely different ball came up. You missed the ball completely. Was the 12 ball almost in the shute but the 11 knocked it out of the way? Hard to tell. Is the 12 ball really closer than the 34 ball? Closer to what? Mayb... [ More ]

Reply #9

Prometheus1 — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:28:01 GMT

Thomas,---- the information physicist! This should be interesting. Pray, please continue.

Reply #8

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:24:15 GMT

The RIGHT place is in the DRAW HISTORY and your BRAIN!!!I just use the Odd,Even,Sums etc... as filters only when I need to trim my combo's down a bit.

Reply #7

Thomas Covenant — Sat, 20 Sep 2003 23:56:26 GMT

All this reminds me of a story.....I was on one of my nightly walks a few weeks ago when I came across a man searching on his hands and knees in the Winn Dixie parking lot. I walked over to him and asked Whatcha looking for ? He replied I'm looking for my car keys . So I helped look for a little while with no results. I asked him, Where exactly did you lose them ? He replied In the field across the road . Then why in the H*** are you looking here ? I asked. He replied Because the lights b... [ More ]

Reply #6

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 20 Sep 2003 13:37:46 GMT

Very Interesting MrSteel01

Reply #5

hypersoniq — Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:21:52 GMT

actually, they may as well be letters...the numbers only serve to identify which balls were drawn. this concept is one I missed at first. when we are counting, 10 is more than one, when it comes to lottery results, 10 has no more or less value than 1, it's just another ball.if a 5, 10 and 15 come out together frequently... it has NOTHING to do with the fact that all are divisible by 5, it just happens that those 3 balls come up together.sort order is for our benefit, an aid to perception... reme... [ More ]

Reply #4

MrSteel01 — Sat, 20 Sep 2003 00:02:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on September 19, 2003 Based on observation, I have noticed that, like the real odds, the numbers drawn have no special mathematical properties to be exploited... keeping statistics seems to be a popular approach, here's my spin...1. Arithmetic Mean (Average)... of no real value because the numbers serve only to indicate the ball drawn. a 10 has no more significance than a 14.YES it does! Any number/numbers have value if it did not we be drawing letters ins... [ More ]

Reply #3

hypersoniq — Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:57:16 GMT

It's not about day one numbers... I have 99 powerball drawings, over 500 stupid 6 (from day one) and almost 2800 cash 5 drawings (from day one... in 1992).Mr.Steel01, you were right about the number 1 in the cash5 being the most frequently drawn.the 39 is also among the most frequently drawn, and they do appear together alot. keeping sums (which I do) is ok, but sums are too generic... they can give you an average, or a most occurring sum.. but the sums appear as randomly as the numbers do.I kee... [ More ]

Reply #2

MrSteel01 — Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:38:28 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on September 19, 2003 Once again I thank you for you opinion but I been thru all that logic b/4! Simple thing every thing counts sooner or later! When it comes to numbers/digits/binarys they all have a meaning! What they have is determend by the user! With all the games that are played 3/4/5/6 everyone is different but somewhat same! A common denominator NUMBERS/DIGITS whatever you want to call them!In the 3 digit 1,000 combinations or 220 boxes=10 trip... [ More ]

Reply #1

dvdiva — Fri, 19 Sep 2003 23:10:46 GMT

how much you win or loose might be important.other than that i try not to play more than 3 numbers that have come up recently in a pick 5 game. other than that i dont think there is too much you can do. when i was playing the daily pick 3 game i had luck with just playing one set of numbers that came up every year and won a lot but then lost it all later.

Which statistics are important?

hypersoniq — Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:29:35 GMT

Based on observation, I have noticed that, like the real odds, the numbers drawn have no special mathematical properties to be exploited... keeping statistics seems to be a popular approach, here's my spin...1. Arithmetic Mean (Average)... of no real value because the numbers serve only to indicate the ball drawn. a 10 has no more significance than a 14.2. Median (number in the middle of a set of numbers)... of no real value (as above)3. Mode (most frequently occurring number in a series of num... [ More ]