Steve Player systems - Anyone use them?

Reply #89

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:21:47 GMT

DAXIE your information is totally INCORRECT there are plenty of people that have WON using other methods that had nothing to do with GOD or LUCK you must be related to VISIONDUDE or something.

Reply #88

orangeman — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:05:13 GMT

Someone once wrote that Steve Player is the name of a corporation and not an individual. There is no person named Steve Player according to the report. I find that Prime Line 3 and Multiple Stage Wheeling are the best. His Lucky Seven System is good if you know that one digit will come up and that the drawing won't come up doubles. The Pyramid Numbers System is also outstanding in helping you find a key number. I have done long term tracking with Pyramid and find it accurate about 50% of th... [ More ]

Reply #87

emilyg — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:02:17 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Daxie on January 15, 2004<TABLE id=HB_Mail_Container height= 100% cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width= 100% UNSELECTABLE= on ><TBODY><TR height= 100% width= 100% UNSELECTABLE= on ><TD id=HB_Focus_Element vAlign=top width= 100% background= height=250 UNSELECTABLE= off >PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON ANY SYSTEMS. STATISTICS HAVE PROVEN THAT ALL LOTTO WINNERS AROUND THE WORLD BASE THEIR WINNINGS ON PURE LUCK AND GOD W... [ More ]

Reply #86

Daxie — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:40:08 GMT

PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON ANY SYSTEMS. STATISTICS HAVE PROVEN THAT ALL LOTTO WINNERS AROUND THE WORLD BASE THEIR WINNINGS ON PURE LUCK AND GOD WILL.

Reply #85

Thomas Covenant — Tue, 06 Jan 2004 23:35:37 GMT

This is a post I made about Steve Player 6 months ago.Steve Player post

Reply #84

saber — Tue, 06 Jan 2004 19:50:52 GMT

Hi Coolpick4,I have the wynntek 3 and 4 system from steve player.Could you give me any insight and how you use the system to predict number, I same to come close all the time but not able to guess all the numbers for either system. Would like know how you do it.sablepaige@hotmail.comThanks

Reply #83

underdog — Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:00:36 GMT

let me do you a favour by not sending you the catalog because if i do you will lose twice 1] the cost of the system 2] the losing tickets the high priced system will genereate do yourself a favour and odnt bother!!!!! put it this way $79.95 for a 30 page idea is not worth it!!!!! especially because it doesnt work

Reply #82

jim695 — Sun, 04 Jan 2004 04:57:01 GMT

Joy2:If you send an email using his customer service link, they'll mail you the new catalog in about two weeks. I just received one today. Don't bother clicking the Order Catalog link on his website, though. What comes up is the HTML code for his order page. I told them about it a month or so ago, but it still isn't working. I looked, but I can't find a phone number for them, so here's the link: www.steveplayer.com. Hope this helps, and good luck to you.

Reply #81

Joy2 — Sun, 04 Jan 2004 03:03:53 GMT

I forgot....my email is ja467055@yahoo.com If it is still a MV file...I still wont be able to view it. Can you change it to a Adobe Acrobat or regular text file? I don't know how complicated this is so if its a major deal just forget it! Thanks again

Reply #80

Joy2 — Sun, 04 Jan 2004 02:59:09 GMT

Would Somebody be kind enough to email me a copy of the 80 page catalog he has for download on his site Steveplayers.com ??? I already downloaded the file and can't view it! I tried everything,Java is enabled, I tried 3 different computers, 2 different browsers....nothing works! I even downloaded the software he suggests on his site and I still can't view the darn file! It is a .MV file extension....can somebody change the file extension to something simple like an Adobe Acrobat PDF or r... [ More ]

Reply #79

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 04 Jan 2004 00:07:18 GMT

Lottery systems and software won't help you win if you don't know how to use them,if you do then you can win.But I guess you don't need these tools because your a PSYCHIC.Sharing knowledge is just as good as sharing numbers I prefer to share knowledge let the other members share there numbers I have nothing to prove to anyone but myself.

Reply #78

goose — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:42:58 GMT

And no lottery system could make a winner.

Reply #77

goose — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:38:31 GMT

if your method is good enough,you will stop posting methods.you may share some numbers till then

Reply #76

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 17:30:21 GMT

I'vebeen asked to post numbers before some were request others were challenges.My reason for not doing so is basically because I play the numbers for myself no one else, when I win or lose it's me that did it and I don't want others making comments or doubting my skills just because my numbers don't hit for them. There my numbers I selected them for me others should select there own numbers if they can't then there are plenty of members that do post here.It's hard enough concentrating on your ow... [ More ]

Reply #75

Sandy K — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:11:01 GMT

Jim,Not a knitter, thank you..............I do quite well with my own graphs and charts.........I don't need to be suckered into buying expensive software from rip off artists like Steve Player. I am afraid that knitting isn't my style and neither is passive so I have worked my ass off to come up with my own way of picking numbers. Check the pick3 predictions for Michigan........at least I post them...............where are yours and pick4master's Florida posts? Hmmmmm......not there........... [ More ]

Reply #74

peach picker — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:05:33 GMT

LMAO ......Jim, you are a GEM! What a wonderful post..... Thanks greatly. Reading this has made my night, believe me. I could relate to much of what you said (and said so well ), plus got a tremendous chuckle. Hope we hear from you again soon, regarding any topic.

Reply #73

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 05:02:43 GMT

By the way jim do you have both versions of the Money-Map? I totally overhauled the way his Prime-Line 3/4 systems are used but I haven't had a chance to mess with the Money-Map yet,I also plan on getting the Over-Lap System.

Reply #72

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 04:48:43 GMT

I had to learn the hard way when I first started using systems and software I got to the point where I was gonna throw everything I had in the trash.Then one day I decided I really need to educate myself on all this Lottery number stuff.Now I'm happy to say I have learned a great deal on what to expect and what not to expect from these tools.

Reply #71

jim695 — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:58:06 GMT

To Pick-4 Master:Once again, you are correct. Steve Player's systems are not tutorials on how to win the lottery. Rather, they are another way someone (Player) has developed to analyze past results in order to predict future winners. Many people can't win with a Steve Player system because they expect it to work right out of the box. If this were possible, the working class in this country would disappear. In his higher-end systems, such as the MoneyMap or CashOverlap, he emphasizes that the pla... [ More ]

Reply #70

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:53:46 GMT

I have the Prime-Line 3 and 4 plus the Multiple Stage Wheeling can you briefly describe how you use them together

Reply #69

orangeman — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 03:50:01 GMT

The Prime Line 3 is the best of the lot. You can combine it with Multiple Stage Wheeling for best results. Those are the best he has. The others are not very useful and not worth the money. I won all of his systems in a contest about a year ago and have been studying them.Orangeman

Reply #68

emilyg — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 02:25:15 GMT

who is bob p

Reply #67

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 03 Jan 2004 02:11:13 GMT

Like I was saying since I've been doing this for so long I can read his Newsletters and get a lot out of what little he may say. The Pick-3 Recession Buster is one of my favorites I found a GREAT way to use it by adding and changing some things.Is TTT the Tic-Tac-Toe method

Reply #66

Sandy K — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:38:15 GMT

Pick4Master,I used to get his newsletter but I haven't bought any of his systems in a long time.....years actually. When I did receive them and he was promoting a new system, he never really described any kind of methodology in it.....just how much money he won. So I really don't see how you could get an idea on what system to buy based on this. I personally have the Winmaster, the Modular System and the Recession Buster.................the Recession Buster really stinks and I have put a lot o... [ More ]

Reply #65

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:25:11 GMT

It's been quite obvious to me that with all the TOOLS available out there for us number players not everyone will get anything from them like me and other members have.So my advice is to develop your own method,buy quick-picks or get numbers from other players I don't discredit anything a player decides to use even Quick-Picks which I DESPISE but that's because they never did anything for me but that doesn't mean they won't work for someone else.Same with systems and software a lot of play... [ More ]

Reply #64

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 23:11:39 GMT

Okay let me clarify what I mean by this,first of all I don't actually USE his systems to play I only use Software.What I do is get ideas and strategies for selecting my numbers to wheel.He has some really good ideas in a lot of the systems he creates but the problem is that the way he sets them up are really difficult to use the way he instructs or are too complicated to work out.What I do is take the parts that are good and leave out the unnecessary steps or concepts.So I can't say I WON mone... [ More ]

Reply #63

hypersoniq — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:39:43 GMT

Player ... should be warning enough.I would never sell a system... but if I did... I would market it as such...1. Post some specific picks to PROVE it worked, not broad horoscope-style 100 numbers for 40 states while explaining that they are the result of a new system. And not for lotteries that the potential customers cannot play. and a manageable field, say $10 or less...2. Do it again... to rope in the doubting thomases 3. offer the system for sale to people who PLAYED the picks and made... [ More ]

Reply #62

Sandy K — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:18:45 GMT

Pick4Master,I have one problem with what you are saying. You state that you have to know which system to buy. Now, how would you know that before you bought the system? I am curious on your answer. His advertising really doesn't say much except how much is possible to win.I know I asked Hosni a while back about the money map system...........and he told me it was difficult to set up and he would get back to me. He never did. So all you big shooters in the Steve Player arena never tell anyt... [ More ]

Reply #61

FUJITA — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 21:07:00 GMT

Golgo13 may I ask which Steve Player system you are testing

Reply #60

bobby623 — Fri, 02 Jan 2004 14:43:53 GMT

I'm a newby at this site. I'm avid Texas C5/37 player.I can't believe people would spend hundreds of dollars for number generator systems that don't work!The number generator, in my opinion, is the human brain! All one needs is some graph paper, pencils and the time to log drawing results. I use alpha-numeric substitution, which reduces a very large picture to a snapshot.Can't say I've won a jackpot, just 4/5 in three drawings in past year.I pick my own numbers based on alphabetical sequences. M... [ More ]

Reply #59

Golgo13 — Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:15:11 GMT

Well I've been crunching some past numbers (pick 3) with one of my Steve Players system and have found myself $194 ahead of the game. Just on paper of course...now thats playing 8 numbers @ .50 each straight.The hit occured on the 14th day. I've started tracking again immediately following from the number that hit to see how long before another hit occurs. Will post when hit occurs.

Reply #58

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 19 Dec 2003 03:09:06 GMT

Well I've corresponded with many players that have won money using his systems anywhere from $500-$5,000 as far as promising RICHES no system or software can do that by itself.So I don't buy his systems based on his HYPE Advertising if you know how to use a Lottery system or Lottery program you can WIN a lot of money.With Steve you just have to know which systems are good and which ones aren't.

Reply #57

emilyg — Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:34:32 GMT

correction - not salomaa - go to www.saliu.com to read fallacy of steve player systems.

Reply #56

underdog — Fri, 19 Dec 2003 01:32:04 GMT

pick4 master his systems promise riches !!!! and they just dont deliver complete false advertising!!!! caveat emptor

Reply #55

FUJITA — Fri, 19 Dec 2003 00:06:33 GMT

Do not waste your time nor money unless you only want ideas at a mega premium price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been there done that with his pick 3 systems.

Reply #54

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:57:02 GMT

I don't see how there scams I have many of his systems and get a lot out of them.

Reply #53

underdog — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:48:02 GMT

scam!!! scam!!!! scam!!!! steve player systems are overpriced fluff!!!! wishful thinking at best

Reply #52

emilyg — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 23:34:10 GMT

go to salomaa - interesting article on fallacy of steve player programs,

Reply #51

Webmaster L — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 18:58:33 GMT

I have purchased many, many, of his systems including the BIG BUCKS ones, however I don't recommend them for the average player who only wants a quick fix or pick These methods that he demonstrates are paper and pencil systems which means that they are not computerized which makes tracking more difficult for those of us who are not disciplined with the tracking of numbers and the various games.With that having been said. I do recommend his systems for the systems player. Don't let the high pr... [ More ]

Reply #50

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:30:16 GMT

I don't have those 2 systems but I have others and plan on getting the 2 you mentioned.It really sucks when they go to 2 drawings a day like that I'm glad FL hasn't and hope that they won't because it just makes things more difficult for us system players.

Reply #49

Golgo13 — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 11:31:26 GMT

Hello everyone, just thought I should throw my hat into the conversation and add that i purchased 3 systems also.1. Omega 3, which deals with tracking pairs that were out the longest. You would end up with 3 daily numbers to play.2. Pick 3 Modular Plus, which is a little difficult to explain but would leave you with 8 daily numbers to play.3. Lucky 7 system, find the one digit that was due to be drawn and find and play the list of numbers that was under that digit. Total of 18 numbers to play bo... [ More ]

Reply #48

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 01:38:27 GMT

Yes I would agree he probably makes more selling his systems then he does using them but either way he's making A LOT of money.All the systems I purchased I was satisfied with so I don't worry about whether you can return them or not unless there defective as far as printing or missing something.

Reply #47

jim695 — Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:03:58 GMT

Absolutely. I agree with both of you, but I'm not certain it's worth the ransom he demands for these innovations. What bothers me most is that, after you've sent your money, he sends a registration form, which states that you can't return the system once you've received it. I don't know how it is in the rest of the country but, in Indiana, a person has three business days to change his mind about any purchase over $100.00. I've made copies of everything, including the PAM (CashOverlap System... [ More ]

Reply #46

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:47:48 GMT

They also give me GREAT ideas to implement in my own strategies.

Reply #45

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 17 Dec 2003 23:42:41 GMT

That's basically what I discoverd from his systems there best used as a TOOL or GUIDE along with your current strategy.Using them exactly how he describes did not work for me unless I made changes.After 4 yrs of studying systems I was able to determine from his Catalogs or Newsletters which systems would help and which were useless.I easily determined that his ISIS system would be a waste of time by his discription of it.My lottery buddies wanted to chip in and get it but I was totally against... [ More ]

Reply #44

Jakk — Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:55:32 GMT

Here's my experience with his systems.The first time I ordered his system was when I got his ad in the mail and it was for the Isis system. It sounded interesting but for $495. His ad sounded pretty good, price is high so I figured it must be of high quality. I was somewhat disappointed. His Isis system didn't give me a system to pick numbers, it was basically just a discription of how to use the dollars from your winnings (how you actually win you have to figure out, not a part of this system... [ More ]

Reply #43

jim695 — Tue, 09 Dec 2003 09:34:33 GMT

I ordered his Pick-4 MoneyMap System last year ($495.00). After losing almost $10k playing the Hoosier Lottery's Daily4 game, I found out that they no longer use ping-pong balls, but switched to an electronic random number generator sometime in 2000, and they won't say when they changed it over. They didn't bother to publicize the switch, so people think they're still using the PPB method because the program is animated to look like ping-pong balls. They use this machine for all of their online... [ More ]

Reply #42

Rebeckah — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:33:44 GMT

I had a pick-6 #chart. Don't remember the name of it. It was basically just a listing of static #s that you play the next # in the series type of thing.... I tracked it for about a month and it never got more than 2 #s right out of about 20 ? numbers. You can do better by playing the #s that hit most frequently with each other into a 20 line wheel. The other thing I got was something for a pick-3 that was advertised as for *lotto* i thought it was for a pick-6. Again, that problem with definin... [ More ]

Reply #41

BobP — Fri, 05 Dec 2003 03:51:28 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 04, 2003 You know he can't reveal his Little Secrets behind what really goes on with his systems and how he wins so much money.This doubling system your referring to does it have anything to do with his new Ovewrlap system? It isn't hard to figure out from what he gives us in the ad. The reason you're putting $36. on 16 numbers is as he says . . . You will play one of your 16 numbers six times. You will play three of your 16 numbers four... [ More ]

Reply #40

Fantasy5 — Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:07:34 GMT

Yes Florida Fantasy 5 is 5/36. When it was 5/26 the prizes were smaller, 20-25k, but there were winners almost every game. Florida Lotto is 6/53, but that's better than 6/69. That's the first time I've known of so many numbers in a lottery game.

Reply #39

hypersoniq — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:40:36 GMT

FL Fantasy 5 is 5/36 now, right?... here in PA, Cash 5 is 5/39... And Stupid 6 is 6/69!talk about a house advantage

Reply #38

Fantasy5 — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:36:34 GMT

I bought 2 of Steve Player's systems. The pick 5 Prime-Line System and recently The pick-5 PlayMax Lottery System . No winnings with either system.Florida Fantasy 5 is the game I play most. It was more fun, with better odds when it was 5/26.

Reply #37

Grammy3 — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 23:16:05 GMT

I have the Pyramid system. It does not work for me in Pa. I can give you a few lines of it 012 013 014 015 016 017 018 019 023 37 52 27 96 83 68 52 83 47 4 9 8 4 7 2 9 2 6 Now if the number that comes in is 150 you go to 015 And you would play 564 094 964 196 Or you would just play 564 094 the next night. It is one of the easy systems. That was one from 1987. The one I have now that cost me 365.00 he sen... [ More ]

Reply #36

Guru — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 22:12:31 GMT

How to win

Reply #35

Guru — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:59:03 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 04, 2003 The instructions that accompany his systems tell you how to use it in order to win what he does personally to win so much is a different story. I think the answer to that is fairly simple. Steve was lucky in the beginning and won a big sum of money. The more money you have, the more combinations you can play. The more combinations you play (with a system that makes at least a bit of sense offcourse) the better your odds of winning bi... [ More ]

Reply #34

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 21:28:04 GMT

Posting numbers won't help anyone learn how to use them if anybody wants to know how I use them tell me which system you have and if I have it I'll explain to them what I do.I don't post numbers like other members do because I'm not a Predictor I'm a Gambler and I don't study every states game just Florida.I prefer to leave the predicting to members like Pick-3 Fairy and Lotto-King .

Reply #33

Lottery_Analyst — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 20:11:02 GMT

Cool Pick-4 Master,Since they are good to you and you will be a life long customer, why don't you post some numbers or predictions so we can see how you use them. Maybe if others can see one or two people that can win with his systems, other may believe. Thanks, LA

Reply #32

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:24:47 GMT

The instructions that accompany his systems tell you how to use it in order to win what he does personally to win so much is a different story.And as for what good are they to anybody there good to me because I get a lot out of them and will be a life long customer.

Reply #31

RJOh — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:40:15 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 04, 2003 You know he can't reveal his Little Secrets behind what really goes on with his systems and how he wins so much money.This doubling system your referring to does it have anything to do with his new Ovewrlap system? If he's not revealing how to win with his systems, what good are they to anybody but him

Reply #30

retxx — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:53:24 GMT

I would love to see someone with his pic 3/4 post some #'s for Mass. and then make a believer out of me. Seems all talk and no proof. Will someone step up to the plate and hit a home run with it? Hope so. Thanks for listening.

Reply #29

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 06:54:39 GMT

You know he can't reveal his Little Secrets behind what really goes on with his systems and how he wins so much money.This doubling system your referring to does it have anything to do with his new Ovewrlap system

Reply #28

BobP — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 03:55:36 GMT

It's not hard to win at Pick-3, it's hard to show a profit over time. Steve's doubling systems have to land on that perfect moment where the wins cluster close enough to play a progression with the state's money. This means a lot of false starts and broken progressions to be suffered in the hope of getting to the one big win that turns Pick-3 into a jackpot prize.I wish he would clearly point out the doubling system isn't a prediction system. He should package his best prediction system with... [ More ]

Reply #27

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:37:48 GMT

That's not really gonna prove anything because Steve WINS using them and I know a lot of players that have won using them. emilyq just informed me that her nephew has had luck using a few of them.I'm quite sure there are probably more players that haven't won anything compared to those that have.A member from this post had his Power-Blox and Payday 5 system she won $5,000 using the PayDay 5 and won $1,000 using the PowerBlox.Also if you were to give one of his systems to 50 members from this... [ More ]

Reply #26

Lottery_Analyst — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 00:46:02 GMT

Hi Everyone,The census appears to be that Steve Player's systems work great with pick 3 and pick 4 games but not too much luck with Pick 5 and Lotto 6 games. I had an idea. I was thinking it would be interesting if we could test one or a few of Steve's systems. Maybe any Lottery Post member that has one of his systems could use it and post numbers on here for any Lotto drawing. They could do it for a few drawings and they would not need to buy the tickets, so it would not cost anything but th... [ More ]

Reply #25

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:25:09 GMT

Which Pick-6 system did you get

Reply #24

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:23:55 GMT

I have The Pick-5 Double Cap and The Pay-Day 5 System which are really good systems in fact he won a Pick-5 jackpot here in FL using the Pay-Day 5 System.Of course I'll have to make changes which I've already done to the Pay-Day 5 which is one of his best in my opinion.His Pick-3/4 systems are better than his Pick-5/6 if you notice all his winnings are from the daily games he doesn't use the Pick-5/6 systems to play.Out of the 16 Pick-5 systems in his Catalog only 7 are worth getting and out... [ More ]

Reply #23

Rebeckah — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:01:22 GMT

Pick-4 Master have you seen/used any of his systems for pick-6? It seems that he's helpful for pick-3/4, but I wonder about pick-5/6 games? The pick 6 system I bought was no better than a RNG chart. He was supposed to write a book on pick-6 systems last summer, but I haven't heard anything about it yet. I also keep in mind that whatever he's selling is for ANY EVERY lottery, so that static # chart was not specific to my game...My advice to anybody that wants to buy a system is to learn how to... [ More ]

Reply #22

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 04:40:12 GMT

I agree but what can you expect from a paper/pencil system when you have Lottery Software that can't do what his systems are suppose to do.A lot of the players here are better off spending money on quick-picks then software and systems.Software requires more input then systems and does take time to master and systems are developed to pretty much do the work for you and provide combinations to play by doing supposed simple workouts.From my experience it's not the case so you have to approach thes... [ More ]

Reply #21

emilyg — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:21:19 GMT

when i buy an expensive steve player system (and i have too many times) - i want it to work. don't have time to modify it. it should work as is. just my opinion.

Reply #20

underdog — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:06:41 GMT

heres the secret to alot of these scam systems sell them to enough people get them playing the game and law of averages takes over there will be some winners!!!! i truly believe lottosync maybe different than this as they dont offer a free trial!!! a free trial would offer them the opportunity for thousands to try this and guess what???? there would be many winners

Reply #19

underdog — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:02:45 GMT

never one a dime from one of his systems and i have the alpha system,the cheat sheet system and the powertrap system not to mention his first the lotto win wheel SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!! OVERPRICED B.S.

Reply #18

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:49:53 GMT

Well after thoroughly reading the Newsletter I believe it's a good system to get a lot of ideas from and it might even be good enough to use the way it's instructedbut I'd have too see it to be sure.But I know it will help me with my current number selection strategies.

Reply #17

BobP — Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:42:27 GMT

What do your instincts tell you about the Cash Overlap system

Reply #16

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:48:20 GMT

Well in your case I guess quick-picks would be the only thing left to use.When I started buying his systems back in 1998 I couldn't get them to produce any wins butafter learning how to use and develop systems myself by 2001 I was able to distinquish between his systems that are worth buying and leaving the useless ones alone.Most systems developed aren't really good for actually producing combinations that will hit some out there can but not on a regular basis.I discovered that they were really... [ More ]

Reply #15

BobP — Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:24:34 GMT

I don't doubt he won the $75,000.00 check displayed for his latest system, past wins have checked out. The question is whether he got to keep it or reinvested it in the next doubling of the wager and lost it. His systems I've seen were older and cheaper. Those all the effort went into the sales promotion. The system was all numbers with no theory discussion or valadation of my choice to purchase it. One system I won't name was to pick only odd or only even numbers and wheel those until a win... [ More ]

Reply #14

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 02 Dec 2003 01:31:08 GMT

Well one thing I know for sure is that his winnings are for real just go to the New Hampshire Lottery website all of them are posted.I know he spends a lot on his picks in order to get those BIG returns,personally I believe he wins more than he spends but others may disagree.Either way I still buy his stuff I could care less about the specifics concerning his WINS his systems help me out a GREAT DEAL.

Reply #13

BobP — Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:41:38 GMT

You might have noticed Steve doesn't hang out here. A wise move on his part because he doesn't have to answer any questions. Man I'd like to ask that guy some questions and get honest answers.I'd really like to know if any actual research goes into Pick-3 systems' picks or if the predictions were randomly generated to be the picks. Where you enter your numbers from the draw and do something and go to the chart, is what's on the chart really the result of major research or just random picks?I... [ More ]

Reply #12

Lottery_Analyst — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 14:29:45 GMT

Hi Everyone,Thanks for your responses. I guess the common thought here is that his systems are overpriced.RJoh brought up an excellent point. If his systems are so great and win so much and so often, why does he need to keep creating and developing new systems? I always said jokingly with my family and friends, one day I will win a major jackpot, and then I will write a book on how I did it, and I bet you I will make more money from the book than I did from the jackpot win. I think that is wh... [ More ]

Reply #11

lottoking — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:12:10 GMT

thank you timmer.at the right time I will post powerball prediction.and just one time for real could makes someone rich enough/lets just go for it/you know i have been looking for the right time.lottoking

Reply #10

Timmer692002 — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 11:31:41 GMT

Lottoking:Sorry don't have an e-mail, but try: http://steveplayers.comTim

Reply #9

lottoking — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:59:28 GMT

Steve Playerwho is he?can I find him anywhereI need to challenge him

Reply #8

RJOh — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 03:25:55 GMT

If Steve Player's systems are so good, why does he keep coming out with new and improved ones? For those prices, he should offer a free upgrade. Sounds like he spend more time coming up with new and expensive systems to sell than he spends playing lotteries. If anyone was making money using one of his older system why would they spend $300-$500 for a new system to play the same old lottery. If the lottery doesn't change, why would a player need a new system to do what the old system was doin... [ More ]

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Pick 3 Fairy — Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:21:13 GMT

I have bought some of his systems. Too expensive for the few hits. I got the Cash Overlap flyer in the mail today. Very impressive but just too expensive and no guarantee of money back. Maybe he did win that much or maybe he is just good making it look that way. Maybe we need to check with the state lottery and see if they really paid him that much. Lots of maybes. I challenge him to play in Texas. We have 4 to 5 pre test draws and they rotate between 17 ball sets and 3 or 4 machines.

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Pick-4_Master — Sat, 29 Nov 2003 21:27:11 GMT

I buy his systems in order to get ideas for creating my own strategies.He has a lot of good systems but you have to modify them in order to get better than average results.He is able to HIT BIG using his own systems because he created them I tried using them the way he instructs and had no luck so I started making changes so they would be easier to use.There best used for selecting numbers then using software to generate your combinations.I have dozens of his GOOD systems even some of the EXPE... [ More ]

Reply #5

Lottery_Analyst — Sat, 29 Nov 2003 00:18:17 GMT

Rebeckah and Grammy3,Thanks very much for your replies. Is there anyone that has had a good experience with his software?Thanks, LA

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Grammy3 — Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:46:56 GMT

I bought the one for this year that cost 365.00 and I should of keep my money. I have only hit twice boxed. Just got a new one from him for 495.00 and he says you will hit in the first 21 days. You have to play 36.00 a day. Not for me it went in the trash

Reply #3

Rebeckah — Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:15:57 GMT

not worth it for pick 5-6. Might be good for pick3-4, but I think you can learn many of the same tricks reading lots of forums websearching. He's big into incremental betting as I understand it.

Reply #2

Lottery_Analyst — Fri, 28 Nov 2003 23:12:47 GMT

Emily,Thanks very much. I agree 100%. Anyone else

Reply #1

emilyg — Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:10:02 GMT

have used them - a few boxes once in a big while. in myopinion - not worth the big bucks.

Steve Player systems - Anyone use them?

Lottery_Analyst — Fri, 28 Nov 2003 18:44:16 GMT

Hi Everyone,I receive Steve Player's monthly newsletters where he is always trying to sell really expensive packages and systems. They never seem to come with a money back guarantee. I am just curious if anyone uses his systems on here and has won anything? Thanks, Lottery Analyst