Pennsylvania Cash3ology Stats

Reply #22

hypersoniq — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:52:49 GMT

I think the main difference between Deltas in Sorted vs. Drawn order is the step of sorting wasn't added, so your data would be more accurate as a description of the dvent (Draw). There would be different combos to watch, perhaps new patterns would emerge... I know it does a number on the Powerball Stats...MODE for Draw Order = 34-14-6-40-26 PB 20MODE for Sorted Order = 6-17-27-42-52 PB 20

Reply #21

winsumloosesum — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:26:09 GMT

It would be nice to have the Drawn sequence for all Cash 5 drawings.I would settle for 2003 draws if someone had them.Hyper, someone posted what Delta numbers were on a different forum, I wonder what difference it would make looking at both types of drawings? Drawn sequence versus ascending order .I might have to travel to the middle of the state to get what I.m looking for!!wsls

Reply #20

hypersoniq — Wed, 10 Dec 2003 00:10:03 GMT

with almost 3,000 drawings of the cash 5.. that would be interesting to see how the stats change per column with the Drawn Order data....

Reply #19

winsumloosesum — Sun, 07 Dec 2003 03:17:18 GMT

Hi Old Hank,Thank you for the info.I have all those drawings. I need the drawn numbers. How they exactly came out of the machine. For example tonights Cash 5/39 numbers were 12 39 4 9 14. I need this listing.The list of drawings at PA web site are in ascending order. You will see on the PA website for tonights drawing 4 9 12 14 39.Thank you,wsls

Reply #18

OldHank — Sun, 07 Dec 2003 02:43:39 GMT

hope you don't mind my butting in. after reading about your situation with the cash5 numbers, I went to the PA website. you can access all of them in the SEARCH field. seems cash5's first drawn was on 4-23-92.sorry if I'm out of line, I haven't been around here in a long time.also, don't know if you wanted a list of the order in which they were drawn or just the numbers themselves.I have to praise Tx on their lottery site. anyone can download every games numbers from day one, into a CSV file... [ More ]

Reply #17

winsumloosesum — Sun, 07 Dec 2003 01:49:35 GMT

Hi Casho,Hope everything went alright with your deliveries.You'd have a heck of a time up north with all this snow. It's not even winter yet!!Sorry I got off the original topic.wsls

Reply #16

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:46:06 GMT

That is very interesting stuff from the IG.You wonder about the management of our PA Lottery.I believe I read about court cases about the unfair advertising practices with the PA Lottery recently.Advertising agencies went to court for this reason.You have to wonder.That $262K loss sure would have helped senior citizens. When you have money to throw around you probably get kickbacks.Looks like it's a real problem.

Reply #15

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:32:13 GMT

I did email them and they did answer my question. Not what I wanted to see though.That's why I called them. I actually went to a local State Represenative to see if he could get an answer.The next day I received a call from the PA Lottery Security Office and they were very interested in why I wanted the Drawn sequence of Cash5 past draws. It was a very interesting converstation.I told them I would come to Lottery Headquarters and save taxpayers money and look up the past draws myself. I'm... [ More ]

Reply #14

hypersoniq — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:28:55 GMT

http://www.auditorgen.state.pa.us/Department/Info/Investigations/LotteryRpt.htmlsome questionable acts by the PA lottery

Reply #13

hypersoniq — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:22:45 GMT

every terminal in PA is connected to the central office. I know they count how many tickets are sold because popular numbers can sell out (the state draws the line when it will be paying out more than it made... how else could they know how many winners there were statewide an hour after the draw?only employees of the PA lottery commission are forbidden to play, any retailer is allowed to play.If you click on the Frequently Asked Questions link on http://www.palottery.com and then Submit a

Reply #12

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:21:03 GMT

I was trying to obtain from PA Lottery a listing of drawn order of Cash 5 numbers.The gave me all the numbers from Nov 1st through the present.The rest of the numbers were locked away or in archives that would take thousands of dollars to retrieve.The only way I could possible obtain them is to send a leeter to PA Dept. of Revenue Right To Know Law http://www.revenue.state.pa.us/revenue/cwp/view.asp?A=180 Q=203332and request the listing.I'm still waiting for a reply from the state on this.Hub... [ More ]

Reply #11

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 22:05:32 GMT

Hyper,I wondered about that same thing myself. Are the terminals tied into the same computer??Lottery is in business to make money.Have you wondered why a triple has not been drawn in midday??I would like to be the one to investigate on how they operate.I know for a fact that employees are not allowed to play any of the Lottery games.

Reply #10

CASH34OLOGIST — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:48:31 GMT

Thanks, I will finish this

Reply #9

hypersoniq — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:37:52 GMT

WSLS, the daytime draws in PA are computer generated. Our state doesn't exactly have the best track record for honesty in the lottery (666), how easy would it be to set up the midday draw to pick the number with the least amount of bets on it?PS... Double-checked... all the numbers are correct CASH34OLOGIST

Reply #8

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:31:37 GMT

Hi Hypersonig,Maybe it is used as a reference only. To see if there may be a possible pattern developing.You and I both play in Pennsylvania. I am interested in how they draw theMidday numbers. All I see is an animated drawing. Do they actually use the same machines as the evening draws and some how show the animated delivery of the 3 numbers.I would like to know the reasoning for why they do the Midday drawing like this. Why dont they have the same type of drawing as the evening?? Is it a

Reply #7

CASH34OLOGIST — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:25:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on December 06, 2003 given the different mechanisms by which midday and evening are drawn, plus the fact that there are over 9,100 evening draws versus less than 300 midday draws... is there any real benefit to combining them? Yes

Reply #6

hypersoniq — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:19:26 GMT

given the different mechanisms by which midday and evening are drawn, plus the fact that there are over 9,100 evening draws versus less than 300 midday draws... is there any real benefit to combining them

Reply #5

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:12:18 GMT

All the entries are correct in all 3 charts.Let me try to understand the charts and Casho correct me if I'm wrong.We have 3 charts:1. Midday2. Evening3. Combined Midday EveningEach chart is broken down as follows:Position 1 (0 through 9)Position 2 (0 through 9)Position 3 (0 through 9)Each position is marked according to what digit was drawn and each digit has the a different color but is constant in all 3 positions.Next column has the drawn numbers (Midday - Evening - Combined) depending on... [ More ]

Reply #4

CASH34OLOGIST — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:30:16 GMT

May as well.

Reply #3

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:28:10 GMT

Thank you Casho,Is there a 2nd step once the drawings are verified??wsls

Reply #2

CASH34OLOGIST — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:21:22 GMT

Most definatley. Check'em out

Reply #1

winsumloosesum — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:20:23 GMT

Thank you Casho,Do you want me to verify all the entries are correct??wsls

Pennsylvania Cash3ology Stats

CASH34OLOGIST — Sat, 06 Dec 2003 20:17:32 GMT

MiddayEveningCombined