Are Lotteries Rigged

Reply #169

CASH Only — Sat, 03 Jul 2004 18:03:52 GMT

jim:I'm #3 in number of posts.

Reply #168

jim695 — Thu, 01 Jul 2004 07:08:12 GMT

Uh-huh, and posting should be limited to those members who actually have something to say, and aren't just shooting for the record number of posts.

Reply #167

CASH Only — Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:51:13 GMT

Lotteries should be rigged so that those who prefer annuity cannot win.

Reply #166

jim695 — Wed, 30 Jun 2004 03:03:43 GMT

To Pick-4_Master:Thanks for your encouragement. Way back when I first began making noise about this situation in Indiana, you were the only person on this forum who took my concerns seriously, and I am grateful for your loyalty and support. I know that many times you were criticized for speaking in my defense and saying, What if he's right, and this really is happening? It took guts to stick to what turned out to be a very unpopular viewpoint, and I sincerely thank you for that. I hope that my... [ More ]

Reply #165

CASH Only — Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:40:30 GMT

Wow! 165 votes

Reply #164

unseen — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:30:56 GMT

Thanks for that info Pick4. I'm going to play through them and try . Someone on this forum posted that they pay at 900 to 1 and that they are legit. We will see. As soon PrepaidATm verifies my info (which is taking a week) I can go ahead and start playing other states.

Reply #163

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:06:08 GMT

Hey unseen I have a friend in CA that played the Daily 3 with CaribSports Casino and did very well.In Aprof 2003 he won a total of $1500 in 2-3 wks of play using Excel software he bought from Mike who advertises on this Forum,so they seem to be legit and okay to play.

Reply #162

Bryan — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 23:24:54 GMT

Hi Pick-4 Master,I

Reply #161

unseen — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:42:43 GMT

Jim thanks for you feedback..I read your statements and you pointed out some interesting facts. I am not being naive to anything however, it was just my own rationalizing (and notice I did say that I don't know about the daily pick3/4 games) that if the odds are already very very low for in regards to the 5 and 6 digit games then why a need to rig them? I play the hoosier lottery and ky lottery at times and my friends have made an argument to me about the possibility of them being rigged but I m... [ More ]

Reply #160

Dr.dre — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:38:04 GMT

Yes it is Rigged ! And that is for sure . They are out for, to make money, and they are not going to lose. No matter what they tell you.

Reply #159

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:11:43 GMT

Jim695 I applaud your willingness to uncover the unprofessional and ridiculous behaviour of your State's Lottery.Players that feel what is happening in your state just isn't possible are obviously very NAIVE about life and people in positions of Power.Your lottery game is totally being manipulated and the players are being screwed the information you have brought forward concerned me so much that I contacted my State's Lottery Office and asked if they still use Lottery Draw Machines and tel... [ More ]

Reply #158

jim695 — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 19:27:01 GMT

Of course they would lose more if they got caught. But show me one criminal, just one, who thought to himself while committing his crime, Gee, I'm sure I'll be caught doing this; wonder how long I'll be in jail? I Guess I'll have to wait and see. No one thinks they'll be caught committing a crime. That's why they do it; they believe they're more clever than the general population and, if the general population thinks the way you do, then I would have to say they are probably correct.Your argum... [ More ]

Reply #157

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:24:55 GMT

Oh by the way if it is the same guys they are using a SYSTEM it's Lottery Software

Reply #156

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:20:56 GMT

Hey Bryan what state was the Father and Son team from? because the 2 individuals I mentioned hitting the Lottery twice were a Father and Son team from Ocala so if the team you mentioned hit a third time it sounds like the same ones.

Reply #155

unseen — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:04:09 GMT

no need to rig a system that already has incredible odds against you. there are hundreds of millions of combinations...would they really need to fix a game so no one hits? No they wouldnt. There's too much risk if they get caught like shutting down the state lottery which would cost them billions. Im not talking about the daily games but rather 5/6 digit games. Believe what you want but I think its nonsense and the state would lose more if they got caught.

Reply #154

four4me — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:58:19 GMT

King apparently 215 million dollars went to the education fund.here is the link to your home state website all the information is there for lottery related questions color=#800080 SC Education Lottery. They make a lot of money because a lot of people spend money trying to win money from playing the lottery games. They list on the site how many people hit the games. On June 26, 37 people hit the number 2012 straight.

Reply #153

king — Mon, 28 Jun 2004 10:22:32 GMT

It makes you wonder if the system is rigged What I want to know is where do all the profits go from us playing they are making a killing from us

Reply #152

Bryan — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 17:33:53 GMT

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Reply #151

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:06:23 GMT

PURE LUCK is only required for people that have no other means to help them win,there are some players that have used Intelligent means of playing and WON not everyone can do this,I personally know of 2 individuals that won a lottery twice in there hometown using Lottery Software.Also in 1996 a player in VA won 3 million using a SYSTEM he developed but would not share how it worked.Like I said only a VERY SMALL number of players are able to hit the Lottery Games using Intelligent Number Sel... [ More ]

Reply #150

LottoFan — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 14:08:18 GMT

I feel like it's their Lotto Games, it's their rules. They make it too hard to win, and I play some other lotto game.

Reply #149

four4me — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:53:16 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Tx_Mega_Player on June 27, 2004Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on June 26, 2004......it could also mean making the game harder or almost impossible to win so you would basically need PURE LUCK to hit....Making a lottery harder to win isn't rigging the game but is instead just decreasing the odds of winning. If a game's odds go from 20 million to 1 to 30 million to 1 , the game isn't rigged because you will know in advance that the odds are now 30 millio... [ More ]

Reply #148

Tx_Mega_Player — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 08:25:57 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on June 26, 2004 ......it could also mean making the game harder or almost impossible to win so you would basically need PURE LUCK to hit....Making a lottery harder to win isn't rigging the game but is instead just decreasing the odds of winning. If a game's odds go from 20 million to 1 to 30 million to 1 , the game isn't rigged because you will know in advance that the odds are now 30 million to 1, and you have the right to decide not to play. In... [ More ]

Reply #147

Colin F — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 07:13:08 GMT

I don't believe Government controlled Lotto's are rigged.The most important point for say a 6/49 Lotto is the equal opportunity of each number to be picked which determines the published odds. If a Computer picked the same number in this Lotto it is rejected and another choice is made. Distortions to do with the Computer Timer which I would be more concerned with really don't come into it because of the big time gaps between Draws.However, I can't say the same about your Pick3/4 which I tend to... [ More ]

Reply #146

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 27 Jun 2004 00:48:00 GMT

Rigging Lotteries doesn't necessarily mean PHYSICAL manipulation of the Ping-Pong Balls or Draw Machines it could also mean making the game harder or almost impossible to win so you would basically need PURE LUCK to hit.Some State Lotteries do this by adding more numbers to there games switching from Draw Machines to Computer Generated numbers and other methods that are within there legal right but doesn't benefit the player.

Reply #145

orangeman — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:19:49 GMT

Rigging the lottery could only benefit one party . . . the state. The more times the lotto turns over the higher the jackpot. The higher the jackpot, the more player interest and sales. The state rigs the lottery by making it harder to win. Texas has gone from a straight six ball 6-50 game to a bonus ball 5/44/44 since its inception in 1992 to make it harder to win. Individuals who try to rig the game in their favor face odds almost as impossible as just buying one ticket and hoping for

Reply #144

Tx_Mega_Player — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 21:21:34 GMT

I always find it funny when people think that lotteries are rigged. The very concept of any lottery is to produce many losers and very few winners, so there is no need to rig anything. Setting the odds of winning at 135,000,000 to 1 (in the case of megamillions) is all the rigging that's necessary.

Reply #143

DoctorEw220 — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 18:48:49 GMT

they have booths in PA that only sell lottery tickets. i'm assuming they are owned by either the building owners or the lottery.

Reply #142

RJOh — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:44:46 GMT

With approximately 1000 residents per retailer and getting about 5 per play, those retailers got to sell more than just lottery tickets to make a living. Doesn't look like anyone controlling the number of points of sales.RJOh

Reply #141

four4me — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:41:11 GMT

Lantern wrote: four4me's only function on the Lottery Post Forum is to say and tell everybody the the lottery games are not rigged, he does not do anything else or have any other function at all, he is here just to make sure that nobody thinks that the lotteries are rigged that is all that he ever does on this forum, he keeps an eye and an ear for anybody who thinks that the lotteries might be rigged and when he finds them or he or she, then he tells them that no that the lotteries are not rigge... [ More ]

Reply #140

LANTERN — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:41:16 GMT

four4me's only function on the Lottery Post Forum is to say and tell everybody the the lottery games are not rigged, he does not do anything else or have any other function at all, he is here just to make sure that nobody thinks that the lotteries are rigged that is all that he ever does on this forum, he keeps an eye and an ear for anybody who thinks that the lotteries might be rigged and when he finds them or he or she, then he tells them that no that the lotteries are not rigged in any way an... [ More ]

Reply #139

psykomo — Sat, 26 Jun 2004 05:05:04 GMT

This is good question? Good subject! It appears to have been on the table of this board for a while, so why not express yourself and not get fancy with...fonts...etc...KISS. First of all, I have a vote of MABY? Maby, it is rigged. At least we can answer,anyway we choose. The big bubble gum of the 2000 era has come, maby gone, but not forgotten. DONOT want to name any of those, BIG accounting firms that certified the books or inspected the balls the board members who left with millions. I assume

Reply #138

jim695 — Sun, 30 May 2004 20:38:36 GMT

UPDATE ON THE HOOSIER LOTTERY'S COMPUTERIZED ELECTRONIC RANDOM NUMBER GENERATOR:By now, most of you have read my posts concerning Indiana's Hoosier Lottery games. LosingJeff and I met in Indianapolis at Hoosier Lottery headquarters on 27MAY. We spoke with their Prize Claim Coordinator and their CPA/ CISA.The low payouts here were explained away as being due to too many poor people living in Indiana; other states with lesser populations enjoy a more affluent citizenry. In addition, states such as... [ More ]

Reply #137

desparado — Sun, 23 May 2004 13:10:09 GMT

You will never say its rigged being a winner

Reply #136

CASH Only — Sat, 22 May 2004 14:17:44 GMT

your wrong:Are you from Maryland

Reply #135

your wrong — Sat, 22 May 2004 00:12:15 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by megamillionaire on December 10, 2003I keep seeing topics in which some poster insists lotteries are rigged. My feelings on the subject are; if they are, why is there such a wide divergence of winners. If they were fixed there would be a particular group winning all the time. Now some genius is going to say; well they let one person win then split the money. Not easy to do when the winner is under the scrutiny of the press and the government, looking for their taxes. W... [ More ]

Reply #134

four4me — Wed, 05 May 2004 06:10:22 GMT

All right once and for all in order to rig the game the balls would have to come out of the machine in some sort of pattern that is to say all the rigged balls would have to appear when they were drawn over and over again or it wouldn't be rigged. Now let's supposed that happened. After the official drawing and the independent auditors draw the balls for the records to see if it was tampered with the balls would come out with the same numbers over and over again. Whomever attempts to cash the ti... [ More ]

Reply #133

garyo1954 — Wed, 05 May 2004 05:13:23 GMT

Okay, so I am one of those who voted maybe.......As much as want to trust government to be fair, equitable, honest, act with integrity, ta da, ta da, ta da.....it's not realistic. Safeguards are not infallible. Windows has safeguards. Prisons have safeguards and guards. Even your net connection has safeguards. Sometimes there are failures.Put the human factor in anything and there will be doubt. Now I do believe that the drawings are done fairly even if I do get this tinge that once in a great w... [ More ]

Reply #132

weshar75 — Wed, 05 May 2004 04:47:25 GMT

I voted awhile ago but I think I said no to the question of rigging, a fix, in on the take. When I purchase a lottery ticket from my ticket retailer my worries are not on if the game is rigged. But if I have defeated the high numerical odds of winning that drawing night. I love beating the high odds in the lottery or in any other game of chance were the outcome most likely is that I will lose, My only concern is not how the games are run or presented but like any other form of government w... [ More ]

Reply #131

keystonechas — Wed, 05 May 2004 02:50:22 GMT

Somemore interesting info from the same Pa Lottery link:Question #28 How often do the balls get changed for each game?On average the balls sets are changed for the Daily Number and Big 4 games every other month, and the ball sets for the Cash5 and Super 6 game are changed every 3 months.There are nine sets of Daily numbers and Big 4 sets and five sets of Cash 5 and Super 6 ball sets, and as I stated in my last post the witness gets to randomly select which ball sets will be used for that night's... [ More ]

Reply #130

keystonechas — Tue, 04 May 2004 21:34:36 GMT

In the state of Pennsylvania you can be a witness for the evening live televised drawings if your 55 or older. The age requirement is due to the fact Pa lottery profits benefits programs for older Pennsylvanians.The senior citizen witness gets to randomly select which ball sets will be used for that night's drawing.The above information is from the Pa Lottery web site under, Frequently Asked Questions Find Answers Chas

Reply #129

four4me — Tue, 04 May 2004 20:54:46 GMT

Correct wiseone2 I read your post completely and only commented on what I though was a valid point. (magnetics) Regardless of what balls were charged or not it would be an infraction of the governing sanctioned machines they use and ball sets. No where do they mention that these type machines are used. There are probably a hundred different ways the lottery could be rigged my point is that the lotteries that are in place in the USA are not rigged and they go through auditing sequences after each... [ More ]

Reply #128

wiseone2 — Tue, 04 May 2004 20:10:51 GMT

Just a point about magnetically charged balls. In my example, I wasn't saying that only a few balls in a set could be magnetically charged. In order for this to work with the security, auditing firms, etc., in place....every ball in the sets would have to be capable of receiving a magnetic charge, but during a drawing only the desired numbers are charged. Also I would like to point out that what four4me quoted from my post is only a small portion. My post was intended to be read in its entir... [ More ]

Reply #127

four4me — Tue, 04 May 2004 18:44:28 GMT

Garyo1954 wrote: If I read all this correctly, I get two immediate reactions. One is live set doesn't mean actual drawing. Two closed set means the possibility of several retakes until the outcome is equitable to the state.According to one lottery poster who worked for a station that draws lottery games. What you see on TV is supposed to be a live feed. Not one of the pre taped drawings. Or the verifying taped drawings they do after the official drawing to check to see if in fact the game was ta... [ More ]

Reply #126

garyo1954 — Tue, 04 May 2004 16:15:09 GMT

Well now..... If I read all this correctly, I get two immediate reactions. One is live set doesn't mean actual drawing. Two closed set means the possibility of several retakes until the outcome is equitable to the state. I would agree that certain conditions might be placed on numbers that are red-flagged, overloaded, or might break the state. I would agree that those people we place trust in need to be deserving of that trust. Certainly there are some who are not. It is hard to imag... [ More ]

Reply #125

four4me — Tue, 04 May 2004 15:39:22 GMT

Wiseone2 wrote: Through technology. Computers today can do just about anything you can imagine. The drawing balls in a drum can be magnetically charged as to pull them down to a metal shoot before releasing the charge and allowing the ball to fall free for example. I have thought about this also and think it is very possible to do this the balls could have silk screened magnetic ink/paint. If I was going to rig a lottery drawing I might have experimented with this idea. I'm sure that we aren't... [ More ]

Reply #124

wiseone2 — Tue, 04 May 2004 11:41:26 GMT

Didn't know this thread existed and I see it has been around for a while now. As far as whether or not lotteries are rigged , I voted Maybe. Then I read every post since this thread began. I don't think the word rigged would truly describe what I or anyone else might believe that didn't outrightly vote NO. A better word would be controlled . In a sense, we know the lotteries are controlled. Changing ballsets and machines are a method of control. Shutting down terminals one to two hours... [ More ]

Reply #123

keystonechas — Tue, 04 May 2004 11:26:16 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by DoctorEw220 on May 03, 2004it would explain the delays that happen sometimes when the computer is accepting requests , but the lottery says that the computer system is only state-wide.What the heck does when the computer is accepting requests mean?After reading your last few posts on this thread I must also ask, where do you come up with this outrageous stuff?You sound like a goose and think like a goose.Todd: Did The Bird fly in under your rador screen?Chas

Reply #122

hypersoniq — Tue, 04 May 2004 08:38:29 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on May 03, 2004I don't believe that (or I wouldn't play)...Slanderous? not! ( in print it's Libel from the Spiderman movie

Reply #121

DoctorEw220 — Tue, 04 May 2004 03:56:23 GMT

actually, that information has changed since that question was asked. they really should update it.

Reply #120

four4me — Tue, 04 May 2004 03:48:22 GMT

This is from the frequently asked questions page of the main powerball website. Before you go and theorize whether or not the lottery is rigged please try an inform yourself as to how why what and if. For the hundredth time the lotteries are not rigged. ... color=#800080Welcome to Powerball and go to frequently asked questions. Mega millions also explains how the balls are selected and the drawing performed on their website.this part on their website explains about the DRAWING EQUIPMENT; DRAW M... [ More ]

Reply #119

DoctorEw220 — Tue, 04 May 2004 02:10:30 GMT

it would explain the delays that happen sometimes when the computer is accepting requests , but the lottery says that the computer system is only state-wide.

Reply #118

hypersoniq — Tue, 04 May 2004 01:24:50 GMT

Paint would not change the powerball... it's not an air machine... they mix the balls with paddles... then a column raises one of them up and it rolls down the tube...SmartPlay Halogen is the machine.... it has variable timing for when and how many numbers it draws... Have you ever seen high speed optics at work in a manufacturing environment? robotic vision? it would literally be NOTHING to add a camera to the bin and trigger the cycle to pick certain numbers...The one possible theory I have se... [ More ]

Reply #117

DoctorEw220 — Tue, 04 May 2004 01:02:58 GMT

although it would be very hard, as well as risky, to fix a multi-state game, it can be done. here's how. forst, you would need to be an employee of the MUSL or the Georgia Lottery (they draw the mega millions numbers). if they use ping pong balls, then next, you inject lead-based paint into the balls to weight them down. then you seal up the small hole created by the needle. the weighted-down balls will sink to the bottom, and will dventually be drawn. if they use rubber balls, then you ju... [ More ]

Reply #116

golotto — Sun, 02 May 2004 07:39:21 GMT

i truly believe that the st

Reply #115

Konformthismfs — Sun, 02 May 2004 02:00:03 GMT

For the last five years i swore up and down the California lottery was rigged. Then 3 months ago a kid down the street from me won $15 Million!!! on a $3 Quick Pick! I've known the guy for 10 years and believe me, he's gangbanger, been in and out of jail all his life, never worked, and is a stone alcoholic and druggie. If it was rigged, they wouldn't have chose him. The kid comes pullin up in a brand new truck, music bumpin loud, with a beer between his legs and still wearing the Lotto winner... [ More ]

Reply #114

WILLSELL — Sat, 01 May 2004 22:59:26 GMT

Lotteries are not rigged. What is suspect is the payouts and distribution of the funds to the programs that the lottery is suppose to support.

Reply #113

CASH Only — Fri, 30 Apr 2004 20:02:31 GMT

124 votes...

Reply #112

Irvin — Sun, 11 Apr 2004 05:46:06 GMT

Are lotteries rigged?NO

Reply #111

LottoEngines — Sun, 11 Apr 2004 03:03:52 GMT

No matter how well conceived, lotteries by design are imperfect and to some, suspicious by nature. However, in the reality of today's gaming environment and the grave consequences that could result from rigging (whether intentional or not), it is extremely unlikely that any current U.S. sponsored state lottery is fraudulent. The risks are just too great, and the punishment is extremely severe. A felony at a minimum, and the abolishment of the that specific lotto at a maximum. In the worl... [ More ]

Reply #110

four4me — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 21:21:21 GMT

DrEw I don't know where you get all this information or make the claim that the lottery isn't random this topic has been discussed in detail on many threads. Use search engine to read some posts. If it's got ping pong balls it's a random drawing. RNG's is a different matter. Can and probably is fixed in such a way as to pay a percentage of the take, by reading all the bet numbers and paying out accordingly.The lottery can be rigged but it is federally mandated that is governed by government offi... [ More ]

Reply #109

DoctorEw220 — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:33:02 GMT

also, it's very easy to rig the powerball drawing. rigging the powerball drawing would explain the rollovers and the huge jackpots. same goes for mega millions, except it would be much easier to fix a powerball drawing. just put add weight in the balls that you want to win. they will sink to the bottom of the machine quicker, and get lifted up faster. i wouldn't be surprised if some lotteries admit that they fixed a few drawings in the near future.

Reply #108

DoctorEw220 — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:18:38 GMT

correction. a triple has never hit on the PA mid-day drawings.

Reply #107

DoctorEw220 — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 20:18:06 GMT

i think that RNGs are fixed. you ever wonder why a triple has never hit in PA. this also brings me back to my argument as to why the power play wheel, as well as the wheels used in the Massachusetts numbers game are not always random. the placement will affect the outcome of the drawing. also, lotteries select the placement of the ball placement in the drawing machine, and that will also affect the outcome of the drawings. there is no such thing as a completely random drawing. there will a... [ More ]

Reply #106

CASH Only — Thu, 01 Apr 2004 19:41:40 GMT

Best place IMO to cash a $500 winner is a supermarket.

Reply #105

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:12:23 GMT

That's why a player should keep his mouth shut if asked by a store clerk or someone from a Lottery District Office where you cash larger winning tickets just say I guess I'm just lucky or just don't play at the same store all the time go to different ones in your area.A clerk would definitely ask questions about how your winning so much.

Reply #104

waynr — Fri, 05 Mar 2004 02:13:00 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on February 14, 2004 If a Lottery discovered that someone was able to get an edge over the game financially they would do something about it.They want the Public to think the game can't be won by any method except for quick-picks and pure luck. First, if someone had an edge that consistently made money and they were stupid enough to run and tell the whole world it would be their own fault. If you go to the same location to buy bulk amounts of tickets wha... [ More ]

Reply #103

four4me — Sun, 15 Feb 2004 06:37:13 GMT

Lottery commissions are not as paranoid. Yea they get panic stricken when thousands of people hit. That's why they have a cut off timers on numbers that are played every day. I remember when you had to buy a number 3 or 4 days in advance because it was so hot 1221 was one of them.Wow i posted this number earlier (1221)as an example of a cut of number and the number that came out saturday night was 1291 whew!!!! now i'm getting paranoid.

Reply #102

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 15 Feb 2004 04:43:41 GMT

I think you should EXPOSE the CORRUPTION that's going on right here,so NY players can save there hard earned cash from the CROOKS

Reply #101

giotonia — Sun, 15 Feb 2004 03:50:58 GMT

I know of one game that is rigged. At first I didnt believe it but it work. It's NY game. I dont know if I should call it out. But if people knew what the state does you would be shock. I dont play the game anymore. I like to play the Mega Million. I dont think that's rigged but who knows. I just started playing the most I won was 7 dollars.

Reply #100

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:20:22 GMT

They do care what goes on in the game and how players win their in the business of making money just like Casino's.Why do you think Casino's track players that are Card Counters and are allowed to refuse there play.If a Lottery discovered that someone was able to get an edge over the game financially they would do something about it.They want the Public to think the game can't be won by any method except for quick-picks and pure luck.

Reply #99

four4me — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:30:19 GMT

willsell wrote: When our State lottery system goes digital I will stop playing because the cards will really be stacked against me.I agree and so would I and many others.Lottery commissions are not as paranoid. Yea they get panic stricken when thousands of people hit. That's why they have a cut off timers on numbers that are played every day. I remember when you had to buy a number 3 or 4 days in advance because it was so hot 1221 was one of them. They only let so many players play a hot number... [ More ]

Reply #98

WILLSELL — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:29:45 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by golotto on February 14, 2004 Lottery commisions are not as paranoid as some make it sound. There attitude is the same as the casino. They don't really care about the winners as long as the win was legit. They make their money on the odds.I would be concerened if they begin using technology to pick the numbers because that randomness can definitely be controlled.When casinos have slot tourneys they setup the machines to be very lose, which means the players will hit mo... [ More ]

Reply #97

golotto — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 04:49:55 GMT

it might take 1000 attempts before settling on one; but i still believe that a person can gain an edge on their own lottery performance through some type of system. it might be a simple system that just gives you a statistical edge. it might be as basic as a method of rotating specific and carefull chosen number sets. whatever you call it; i still believe that a 'system' or 'method of playing' can optimize lottery results. i accept the fact that official draws are as random as the lottery can ma... [ More ]

Reply #96

four4me — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 04:49:06 GMT

Goose if you post numbers for a state any state and they keep hitting every day or every other day and someone asks how do you do it and they post their system on here the next day that states lottery people will change something and your system will go right down the drain. There are smart people on here. Aren't you smart you have confessed that you are the best at predicting and so far na da zilch not even close. You don't have to be smart to pick numbers a 4yr old can pick numbers.... [ More ]

Reply #95

goose — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 04:19:41 GMT

I think we dont need to worry about ths monitoring thing at all.Noone can invent a system that could help us win.we are not that smart

Reply #94

four4me — Fri, 13 Feb 2004 02:50:09 GMT

pick-4 master wrote: The best thing to do in here is send PRIVATE MESSAGES regarding any info about Lottery systems or strategiesthat can give you an edge.I agree

Reply #93

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:23:54 GMT

The best thing to do in here is send PRIVATE MESSAGES regarding any info about Lottery systems or strategiesthat can give you an edge.

Reply #92

four4me — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:58:20 GMT

Yes, and I'm pretty sure they are monitoring this site as well. I have seen all sorts of tips and tricks posted here and so do they. if anyone comes up with a system or idea to get more money from there states lottery they will change that game to. I think it's not a good idea to give them any insight. If you figure out a way to win and want to share it with lotto post members be forewarned that the lottery isn't going to be very happy with hundreds of people collecting revenue that they are try... [ More ]

Reply #91

Johnny5 — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:42:26 GMT

I can't beleive that I found this post.Are Lottos rigged.. I would say.. YES and NO.Let me tell you guys something.. I had the Mega money to a point one time that I was winning 2 and 3 thousand every week.. did it for a while..and I started talking online with these people.. and little did I know that there was one person from the FL Lottery.. well to make a long story short.. they stop the MEGA for one whole year .. then started it again.. and this time added more ball sets.. So I would say.. N... [ More ]

Reply #90

johnph77 — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 07:30:41 GMT

One thing stands out here with all the reports of official corruption - none of these inquiries have had anything to do with the conduct of the games themselves. Rather, the investigations are more concerned with the questionable expenditures of funds by high officials of the various commissions.

Reply #89

four4me — Wed, 04 Feb 2004 01:44:27 GMT

willsell wrote: Hmmm sounds like politicians at work again.Now your talking we vote for what we believe is the best candidate who brings his people on board and then they put the shaft to us for how many years they can. Only for us to elect another pile of people to shaft us further. And it goes on and on until the people stand up and speak out it will keep happening that way. For each states lottery that has a website there should be a section on it that tells people how the state benefits from... [ More ]

Reply #88

WILLSELL — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 23:33:54 GMT

Perhaps it is a paradox that the officials and politicians got involved to assure the public that lotteries were in fact honest. The part that goes unnoticed is how much of the intake is skimmed off for the various groups after admin costs.In NJ a big chunk goes towards institutions of high learning. Guess what the joke is ?The prisons are considered institutions of learning so a big chunk goes to the prisons and the crumbs, goes to other educational groups. Hmmm sounds like politicians at work... [ More ]

Reply #87

LaurainMass — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:28:46 GMT

Would be interesting to find out wouldn't it?Someone commited suicide somewhere?Wow wee!Laurajean

Reply #86

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 20:58:59 GMT

The inconsistancy with some of the State games mentioned sounds like somebody is screwing the players over.However for the most part the majority of the games in the US are pretty CLEAN except for some states that are clearly taking advantage of there players whether it's increasing the number field to DECREASE any chances of winning,shrinking the payout amounts or manipulating the numbers somehow.I'm glad I live in the State of Florida which has one of the BEST run Lottery games in the US. jim6... [ More ]

Reply #85

four4me — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 20:31:04 GMT

Jim695 wrote: Corruption and fraud are on the rise in state lotteries.No doubt that this occurs however many of the games are run by gaming officials that are constantly monitoring the games. Stealing from the coffers is one thing rigging the game is another. I'm not saying that it can't happen. It would take some clever trick to fool the gaming officials. Especially with guards watching video taping every move the lottery personnel make. The preparation the personnel take before the balls are d... [ More ]

Reply #84

KyngeRycharde — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:49:53 GMT

I don't know if the following info may help to determine whether your local state Pick 3 or Pick 4 are rigged or not, but....Go back over the last year's draws and count up how many times each digit appears. In the Pick 3, there is a 95% chance that the final total will be between 93 and 126 (average 109.5) for each digit. In the Pick 4, there is a 95% chance that the final total will be between 127 and 165 (average 146) for each digit.In short, if the final total is above or below those two bou... [ More ]

Reply #83

jim695 — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:05:10 GMT

Wow. It's hard to believe this topic is still open. It's even more difficult to believe that there are die-hard players out there who refuse to accept the obvious: Corruption and fraud are on the rise in state lotteries.In just the past ninety days, the Colorado Lottery was shut down due to accounting irregularities. Coincidently, their lottery commissioner resigned, and a new one was installed before operations began again. Then, only yesterday, I read that the Minnesota Lottery commissioner... [ More ]

Reply #82

Amin611 — Tue, 03 Feb 2004 17:36:41 GMT

HI i have just recently started purchasing mega millions lottery tickets through this website does anyone have any reason to believe that the mega millions is rigged so to speak!! Also i would like to mention i have read all of the forums and my opinion on them are maybe we just lead ourselves to believe its rigged because we are the losers!! If we were the winners we would have nothing negative to say!! But that just my opinion so dont take offense to it!! Brandi

Reply #81

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 19:49:22 GMT

US Lotteries are the MOST Secure in the WORLD none are rigged the only thing that is unfair are the payouts for second and third prize wins.

Reply #80

Lotto Czar — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:35:29 GMT

Yep Tricky Nick Perry, who conspired to rig the Pa. Daily Number Game back on April 24, 1980 (or thereabouts) dventually got caught. The #4 balls were not weighted down either, so if 4-6-4 or whatever would have came up, maybe no one would have known; at least not for a longer while.Eventually Nick lost his job as Station (channel 4 in Pittsburgh) announcer; (ironically he was the host of the local version of Bowling for dollars which followed the drawing at 7PM. He was introduced as the man

Reply #79

four4me — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:35:19 GMT

Sumday wrote: Wow, if it were rigged and someone exposed the truth, what would people do?People wouldn't be able to do much but have you ever heard. I fought the law and the law won. The people involved would be brought up on charges and new people put in place. The lottery will survive no moneys will be forwarded to the players unfortunately.

Reply #78

sumday — Thu, 22 Jan 2004 08:46:32 GMT

Wow, if it were rigged and someone exposed the truth, what would people do

Reply #77

6of6 — Wed, 21 Jan 2004 02:01:44 GMT

I don't believe the lottery is rigged, I play golf with a guy who won a florida lotto jackpot. the people who run the lottery got the best odds of all they get money every time we play, even though its a very small amount.

Reply #76

CASH Only — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 18:49:41 GMT

monkey:It would be nice if Missouri (and/or Kansas/Nebraska) joined Hot Lotto .

Reply #75

LottoMonkey — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 14:19:47 GMT

That would be correct CASH Onlybtw... for people close to missouri the lottery site is giving away tickets to a monster truck show in kc, no purchase necessary.

Reply #74

CASH Only — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:26:22 GMT

LottoMonkey:Looking at your avatar, you must be from Missouri.

Reply #73

interceptor — Fri, 09 Jan 2004 04:29:09 GMT

if you can go digital with lottery this could open doors for anyone to do lottery that has a computer, since any computer you buy can generate numbers. cool!!!!!!!!!! hey i have a lotto machine here yall!!!!!!!!!!!now, if ise can gets 1,000,000 people to send me a dollar for a ticket....................................................................

Reply #72

Lotto Czar — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:30:47 GMT

No discussion of this topic would be complete without mentioning the infamous trip 6 fix in Pa. I think it was in 1980. The film Lucky numbers was loosey based on the incident with some details changed. Ever since then, states bend over backwards to insure this sort of thing doesn't happen.As for RNG's, look up the story of how Michael Pearson won big bucks on Press Your luck Game show in the 80's. That board was not as random as it appeared, and he was able to figure it out. What happened... [ More ]

Reply #71

four4me — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:41:40 GMT

lottoMonkey wrote: With some states looking at moving to electronic drawsdo you think there will be more or less of a chancefor tampering/fixing?Oh yeaa real easy to tamper with an electronic box. With balls you can actually see the balls being drawn there are witnesses and security people present at all games, lottery officials are present also.With electronic games an EPROM chip is calculating all the bets and responding to the amount of numbers being picked. Depending on who or what program i... [ More ]

Reply #70

LottoMonkey — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 14:32:20 GMT

With some states looking at moving to electronic drawsdo you think there will be more or less of a chancefor tampering/fixing