Prove it!

Reply #100

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 18:19:40 GMT

P34Lotto and Versabet 3/4 are very good programs plus Lottery Director which is a Pick-5/6 program but has analysis and wheels for the daily games.Oh I almost forgot to mention LottoPro 2003 all upgrades are FREEthis program supports all lottery games as well.

Reply #99

Ol'dusty — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:52:12 GMT

Hi all, I'm new to this forum but have found this to be a useful topic. I use Lotto Buster 2000 and have been pretty happy with it. But when I originaly purchased it, I was suposed to get free upgrades for life. But now they no longer upgrade it on the net but by maileing out CDs. and I'm told it will cost e $20 to get Lotto Buster 2002 1/2 the cost to new buyers because it is a whole new software animal Anyway I feel like I'm getting screwed. Can anyone recomend a good replacement, and by the... [ More ]

Reply #98

Bryan — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:41:47 GMT

Thanks Pick-4 Master,I'll have to check out that P34Lotto, it may help improve my game.Thanks again,Bryan

Reply #97

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 17:26:23 GMT

Hey Bryan I have Versabet 3/4 and I agree it's one of the best programs out there.My favorite one to use though is P34Lotto it's almost equal to Versabet 3/4 and most of my hits were from using hit.I've also hit using MaxHit-Pro and LottoMatrix 3

Reply #96

Bryan — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:25:37 GMT

Howdy all,I try to help and post in various states whenever time allows and I was going back over some of the hits I've had this year. In a 30 day span in Pick 4 between June 30th and July 30th. I had 11 hits (straight and box) in the different states for which I posted. I would post a set (of 12 combos or less) for specific states, dates and even drawing (mid or eve) which would be good for 5 days of play. The odds are like 1:416.67 of even getting a box in Pick 4 and 1:10,000 for a straight... [ More ]

Reply #95

Bryan — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 15:02:22 GMT

Hey Pick-4 Master,The software is VersaBet 3/4. It is an excellent data tool and they have even more goodies in store for the next version. As BobP mentioned earlier they actually listen and build in the request of their customers. And there has been some great ideas installed in their software. If you have never used it you should give it a try. It is so chalked so full of tools, that in the 2 years that I've had it I still find tools in there that I didn't realize what they were for in the beg... [ More ]

Reply #94

Zeno — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 14:51:39 GMT

The main reason computers are banned from casinos is because of blackjack. As cards are being dealt, the basic strategy for the player is going to change because the composition of the remaining cards is changing. So, you walk in with a computer, enter the cards that are being removed, the computer quickly plays a couple million hands and quickly determines what you should do with your hand. Also, the computer could determine if you have an advantage on the next bet. I think for pretty muc... [ More ]

Reply #93

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 07:03:35 GMT

I saw a Documentary on Casino Gambling where they showed all the techniques players used to cheat or try to increase there chances for a win.The number one method that was BANNED was any type of Computerised device next was Card Counting.

Reply #92

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 06:56:59 GMT

BRYAN What program are you referring to that cost $100? also which one are you using for the Pick-3? So true about playing the BIGGER games one hit and your pretty much set unless you want to continue going for the smaller prizes with 4-5 hits in Pick-6 and 4 hits in Pick-5.

Reply #91

Bryan — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 05:52:09 GMT

It is so true, there is no

Reply #90

BobP — Thu, 01 Jan 2004 04:10:56 GMT

The thing with Pick-5 and Pick-6 lotto is your method only has to win once and you're done. You don't have to prove you can beat probability again and again or that you can repeat the win in the lab. You work over the data with or without your software tools and in the end either win or lose each draw until you win and that's it you're finished.People with good lottery software, they're on their way there to the finish line once they work out how to use it. There is a reason why computers sti... [ More ]

Reply #89

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:18:10 GMT

Last night's numbers were (547) I had (507)no quick-pick would come close for me 2 days in a row.

Reply #88

johnph77 — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:17:21 GMT

Pick-4 Master -There are 271 instances of any single selected number that occur in a 3-number draw. Odds of that number appearing 7 consecutive times are 1::9315.69.THere are 3439 instances of any single selected number that occur in a 4-number draw. Odds of that number appearing 7 consecutive times are 1::1757.82Hope that answers your earlier question. gl

Reply #87

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:16:27 GMT

Tonight's FL Pick-3 (466) one of my combo's (460

Reply #86

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 21:03:57 GMT

Players that are trying to Get Rich Quick are usually your quick-pick and lucky numbers players.Players like us would enjoy the money but if wewere just doing this to get RICH we wouldn't be wasting time on the Pick-3/4 games or spending all this time developing strategies and software because it takes a lot of time to to this but it doesn't take any time to use quick-picks.

Reply #85

Clipper — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 20:04:15 GMT

Generally I can come up with 2 digits for each game and I've lost track of the times I've had the digits.....just the wrong order. I know....you say play Any Order but that's not my goal! Im a Straight Shooter <G>I too dont want to get rich quick ....would be perfectly happy with a consistent $1000 a week. Wont make me rich but would be comfortable <G> Also I've worked so long (10 yrs) and hard on getting a programmer to create my software that nobody could afford it because they... [ More ]

Reply #84

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 19:58:16 GMT

In this case it's not a DREAM it's REALITY we don't want to CONVERT Mr. Zeno away from his BELIEFS just like we won't let his BELIEFS deter us from what we know to be true from our own experience.When we HIT the numbers LUCK isn't involved because we all know LADY LUCK doesn't come around that often.So if your able to get more hits than usual or the average player than your obviously bending the odds in your favor.My mother strictly plays QUICK-PICKS and has only hit once this... [ More ]

Reply #83

Thomas Covenant — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:22:40 GMT

There are two schools of thought to this, Zeno, on one side you have centuries of mathematicians saying its not possible to predict a random dvent, on the other side you have people who are trying to sell lottery systems. People want to believe in lottery systems. People say they use systems for fun, or to practice math, this isn't true. They use systems in the hope of becoming rich. So if you start trying to convince people that it is hopeless, you are taking away their dreams. You will also ge... [ More ]

Reply #82

Clipper — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 18:04:41 GMT

Sheesh.....then I would be in the middle of a NIGHTMARE

Reply #81

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:59:10 GMT

CLIPPER when you start hitting the numbers with your System/Software you better not CASH your tickets because it was just a DREAM

Reply #80

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 17:53:31 GMT

Clipper remember in the Middle Ages when they believed the Earth was flat? even though Christopher Columbus thought otherwise? I think ZENO is stuck in that time period.It was finally proven that the Earth was round but no matter what you say to ZENO he'll still believe the Lottery games can only be won through LUCK and not INTELLIGENCE , HARD-WORK and DETERMINATION .Thank goodness we don't think like he does otherwise we would never hit any numbers.

Reply #79

Clipper — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 16:45:16 GMT

Zeno = Today's Texas Daily was 739. With 2 settings in my software the field of 220 possibles was reduced to 10! I had already decided on 769 for Sum Total EVEN and it went ODD.Of course....I must be dreaming and really didnt see this happen

Reply #78

Clipper — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:42:55 GMT

Well Zeno......If it cant be done and what I've developed is BS....then I guess it was just my imagination last night when I used my software and system to reduce the 3 digits to play in Texas down to ONE COMBINATION! Based on the system I have, I told others before the fact that the Sum Total would be 15 or less and would be a TEEN and it would Sum Total ODD and that's what I went looking for. Number 182 played and that is a SUM TOTAL 11 and a TEEN! Elimination for Determination ...... [ More ]

Reply #77

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:39:56 GMT

What are the odds of a RANDOM number repeating 7 times in the Pick-3/4? the number 9 hit 7 times in a row starting on 12/20-12/27.

Reply #76

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:14:20 GMT

If no one can devise a winning strategy based on past results in order to hit the numbers, then I guess Johnny5 and other members that WON money doing this it didn't really happen it was there mind playing tricks on them.Hey Johnny 5 you better give that $5,000 you won back to the Lottery because you shouldn't have won using Software it's NOT POSSIBLE your messing things up for the SKEPTICS in here.

Reply #75

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:33:28 GMT

We aren't playing Casino games there setup different than lottery games in fact the Casino games you just mentioned are way more difficult to beat then the Pick-3/4 games.The majority of the casino games require LUCK to win only a small percentage can be played using skill that can result in a win from time to time.

Reply #74

Zeno — Wed, 31 Dec 2003 14:27:13 GMT

The reason why mathematicians reject what you say about predicting pick-3 is because what you are saying is basically a bunch of BS. Why do casinos allow players to record what happens at baccarat?Why do casinos post the past results of the roulette wheel?The casinos don't care and aren't the least bit worried.Nobody can devise a winning strategy based upon past results if the numbers being produced are random.When you guys make your millions beating the heck out of pick-3, write to a publisher... [ More ]

Reply #73

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:39:25 GMT

I guess this is the case here

Reply #72

Clipper — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:56:05 GMT

You know....I've come across a lot of Doubting Thomas' through the years when talking to them about how I predict Pick 3 and it seems the worse of the bunch has been formally educated mathematicians <G>Have you ever known somebody so highly educated that they educated themselves out of the realm of possibilities

Reply #71

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:43:25 GMT

Also I was speaking Hypothetically because of your comment about Random Numbers and how we think there not Random,well TRUE RANDOMNESS wouldn't produce any Biases that we could manipulate to our advantage.A lot of times I can spot a trend or pattern and know whether a particular number is going to repeat or if it's due to hit.I would say that there are 2 kinds of Randomness Natural and Mechanical .Mechanical being the Draw machines and Slot Machines and Natural which is produced without th... [ More ]

Reply #70

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:35:30 GMT

Well your ignorance of trying to be MR.SPOCK when it comes to gambling is probably why you have to rely on Quick-Picks If what I'm observing doesn't help then explain how me and Johnny 5 and other members in here hit the numbers using software,systems or strategies.Just because the MASSES say something cannot be done doesn't mean no one is able to use there INTELLIGENCE to pull it off.If the Wright Brothers had listened to the SKEPTICS such as yourself we probably wouldn't be flying... [ More ]

Reply #69

Zeno — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 21:21:14 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 30, 2003 If the lottery numbers didn't contain biases then the numbers would have an EQUAL number of hits in the entire draw history.I have a year worth of numbers drawn in one of my programs and the number 1 hit 55 times,2 45 times,1064 times and 21 33 times.How come they all didn't hit the same number of times? even though the numbers are randomly drawn? it's because random numbers have biases after being drawn for an extended length of t... [ More ]

Reply #68

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:15:39 GMT

I believe if you were to include them it would make things more difficult

Reply #67

Clipper — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:45:28 GMT

Pick-4 Master = I agree.....we dont see them but Lottery Commissions do make the draws available for people who seem to feel they have to have that information in order to make proper selections. Never seen a Lottery Commission yet that plays down the fact such drawings are relative or not ....they just dont say anything lol

Reply #66

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:31:55 GMT

I've never considerd the pre-test drawins because I'm only concerned with the numbers that are officially drawn.So since the pre-test draws are DUMMY DRAWS there's really no need to worry about them we never see them anyway.

Reply #65

Clipper — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:39:36 GMT

Im sure they do the test as a matter of record for proof their machines are in working order, etc, however whatever happens has no bearing on the outcome with the system I have. There are some lottery systems that pre-test might be beneficial but with mine it's not going to make a difference one way or the other.Cant escape the fact though that many people tend to believe they need the pre-test info in order to properly track numbers.

Reply #64

Johnny5 — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:33:41 GMT

Clipper. I do it not to worry about it.. but to draw at the LUCK PART OF THE GAME. I worked with TEST MACHINES before. Both in Aironotics and in Wheather testing. I have a pritty good notion of what gose on when it comes to that. The only reason they run tests are for PERFORMANCE PURPOSES. By law they have to have proper working machines.. so the little warm up dose do us good.

Reply #63

Clipper — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:28:09 GMT

Since I only play the Pick 3 (dont have time to track P6 yet much less P4 or P5), I dont even care what the Test Balls are because with the system I have it isnt going to make a bit of difference.Im looking for something specific to happen to my charts and it's going to happen no matter how many times they run those machines before the official draw. I think they just run those test draws to confuse people and make it seem harder then it is to determine what is going to play.Rather like one... [ More ]

Reply #62

Johnny5 — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:18:39 GMT

I have analysed Fantasy 5 mostly. I calculated that 3.6% is the draw ratio for almost all 36 numbers. Now thats on number counts but only a fraction of a percent for those in particular amounts of draws.That alone should tell alot of people that Analysing numbers in sequences recored through time is important. And Software can kill the time drag of Analitical Work.

Reply #61

Johnny5 — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:12:25 GMT

Thats funny you said that Soniq. I too draw at the BLANK sort of speak. I take the last 25 Draws of any given game Lotto (6), Fantasy (5), Pick (4).. and then I get the total highest 10 and the total lowest 8 and run a wheel on them to see what pops up.. I do it all the time just to make up for the DRAW WE DON'T GET TO SEE.. the TEST DRAWS.

Reply #60

hypersoniq — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:04:55 GMT

I wonder how many times numbers that we were sure were coming out but didn't came out in the first practice draw before the live drawing?I wonder if it would be worth looking into projecting maybe 10 draws ahead just to study for awhile... it might just help fill in those statistical gaps that tend to throw us off the trail of an apparent trend...just food for thought...

Reply #59

Pick-4_Master — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:51:16 GMT

Zeno is obviously a player that uses LUCK therefore he only believes in Quick-Picks yes the Lottery is full of random numbers but those random numbers form patterns and trends due to biases from the numbers being drawn over and over and over again.Repition of numbers will create these variables why? take FL 5/36 for example 5 numbers are drawn is this game so therefore you have 31 numbers that are not going to drawn.So what you do is analyse all 36 and select a group of numbers based on ther... [ More ]

Reply #58

Clipper — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 13:30:42 GMT

BobP = I use a chart I call Level of Play . I wanted software that would generate combinations based upon the information in that chart, therefore, I needed a number generator that would give combinations in a controlled environment. Then I eliminate combinations based upon other criteria that I have been able to develop to reduce the number of combinations (220) down to a smaller pool.Zeno = Yes there are 1000 EXACT combinations of 10 digits 0-9. There are also 220 base combinations.

Reply #57

Johnny5 — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 12:18:26 GMT

Well Zeno, your probability is going to actually be higher than that because of the UNKNOWN FACTORS.Take the Lotto for example. I have carefully examined the numbers and their occurances. The Lottery Department in Florida has kept a 3.xxx% ratio on almost ALL NUMBERS. What dose that tell me. Well it tells me that my point of randomness is very high indeed. While in other games it contains a better and UNEVEN ratio..giving the player a better chance at winning.So what would make me believe t... [ More ]

Reply #56

Johnny5 — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:48:40 GMT

I use to shake this little box I had that lined up Play-4s for me and use that..but again I must say.If you don't examine what you are getting then you are getting the result of what you ASKED FOR!..Some people just buy stuff because they read this or that..granted there are theives out there that falsley advertise their items. But, lets take everything in consideration. If you don't search deeper than the what is on their add, you won't know what is really in the back ground.If you ever wen... [ More ]

Reply #55

Zeno — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 06:26:50 GMT

Let's say that you make 20 different pick-3 selections, there are 1000 different combinations possible and you've selected 20 of them, so the probability of winning is (20/1000) or 0.02. Now then, if you take the ratio of the number of times that you've won to the number of times you've played, it will always approach 0.02. It makes no difference whether the numbers are quick-picks or generated by a software program. Those of you that believe that lottery programs somehow help in picking th... [ More ]

Reply #54

BobP — Tue, 30 Dec 2003 04:38:59 GMT

If you have good ideas you can explain, some of the lottery software authors like for VersaBet and Lottery Director will add features customers think will add value to the product. So what are we talking Clipper, weighted random? BobP

Reply #53

Clipper — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:36:34 GMT

Pick-4-Master = Unfortunately there wasnt anything out there that I could remotely use with my system lol Everything I found dealt with hot, cold, due, dead and generated nothing in the manner I needed it. I was wanting software with a generator but not a random generator.

Reply #52

Clipper — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:21:27 GMT

You're most welcome. Hope you were able to gain some insight and direction for the Pick 3. I've spent many years analysing the possibilities and categorizing them in a way that can help reduce the possible combination down. In the end, the results is with a little work and educating yourself, what plays will come from an educated guess .It is said there is no such thing as a sure thing for the only sure thing in life is Death and Taxes. With some education you will pay less and l... [ More ]

Reply #51

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:21:23 GMT

That's like me when I first started I could never find any software that could do what I had in mind after I learned how to develop my own strategies.So what I did was find the software that came the closest and used that along with my strategies on paper.The software made it easier to track certain variables plus I was able to use certain features and charts in a way that wasn't in the help file.So now in a way I have my own software by manipulating the BEST programs in my possesion to do wha... [ More ]

Reply #50

hypersoniq — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:16:43 GMT

Clipper, your post with information on the exact 1,000 combos in the pick 3 prediction thread was a great read, thanks

Reply #49

Clipper — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:03:55 GMT

hypersonig = When I first started playing Pick 3 and was dventually able to go online, I looked and looked for software to use. Tried a few of the freebies and 1 or 2 of the for sale and I soon realized there was nothing on the market to track the numbers for results the way I was working.It was at that point that I decided I needed my own software. Took me 8 long years before I could ever find somebody willing and able to work with me from start to finish . I did find 1 programmer a... [ More ]

Reply #48

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:01:45 GMT

Okay I can understand where your coming from but if you know which is the right software to use then you won't be wasting your money.And your right a lot of the Advertising is misleading but if you know the difference then again you save your self from wasting your money.I use to fall for it myself believe me I have purchased software and systems that were a total waste because I was going by what was advertised.But you know what? I learned from my mistakesand now every program or system I pur... [ More ]

Reply #47

hypersoniq — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:47:42 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 29, 2003 But you see Hypersoniq that's where your way off my point is that if you don't know what to look for then that person shouldn't be using these tools. I agree with that... but you'll not find that in their advertising. I know software can help, I know QP's are just that, QP's. I know (thanks to some of your previous posts) the difference between prediction and trapping. It's not that I coudln't figure out how to use the demos, it's... [ More ]

Reply #46

Clipper — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:43:59 GMT

Pick-4 Master = I definitely agree with you that the individual has to thoroughly understand how to use any software they try or it will indeed be useless to them. I've even found it hard to explain to some people just how my system works. It works for me because I designed it and understand it. My youngest Son has told me many times Mom, NASA couldnt even understand your system ! I tell him.....I dont want to fly to the Moon ....just win Pick 3!Think when one uses others software... [ More ]

Reply #45

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:23:09 GMT

You see HYPER ? this is what I'm talking about how can software be USELESS if there are players benefitting from it's use.So far 3 other players besides me have responded positively but there are plenty more in the whole Lottery Playing community that are doing the same thing we are.I'm not trying to convert you or anythig I'm just presenting the facts to prove your statement was out of context.You should have said Lottery Software is USELESS for YOU not everyone else.It doesn't matter... [ More ]

Reply #44

Johnny5 — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:11:26 GMT

I agree with Pick-4.. I think you are a smart player too and that you need to work on what will work for you the best yet.I use to be a watcher only player.. and get numbers like that. Some times I would ask others to give me some numbers off the top of their heads and use those. But when I learned that I could use computers and other tools to help me narrow it down.. heck.. I was hooked.. I examined QP compared to filtering, selecting and other schemes and came up with the fact that QP is mo... [ More ]

Reply #43

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:06:26 GMT

But you see Hypersoniq that's where your way off my point is that if you don't know what to look for then that person shouldn't be using these tools.They should LEARN how to use them so they KNOW what to look for all instructions are pretty much crystal clear but if the player only has a certain level of experience or none at all he won't get the results he wants.I know this from my own experience when I first started using software in 1997 I didn't know what the hell to do even after read... [ More ]

Reply #42

Johnny5 — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:02:02 GMT

Sonyq don't get sad doggie.. If you want the program ... ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK.Ask and you shall receive, Knock and the door will be open, Seek and you shall find.Don't be shy.. and don't be angry because you are still trying to figure it out.. there is NO figure thats THEE figure. Look. If your unhappy with the software for sale .. DON'T BUY IT!! but don't blame it eather.Those guys here in Ocala used one they bought and look .. it gave them a good result.. the Father won twice and the so... [ More ]

Reply #41

Clipper — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:56:04 GMT

Well ZENO = I have one for you. I have my own Lottery Analysis Software for Pick 3 that's written by a college student j in JAVA just for me using my ideas. Havent had the software quite a year now and is still an ongoing production as I fine tune it. It has a controlled number generator that I control what I see.I can tell you right now before I set any filters, etc.....the 3 digits that play WILL ABSOLUTELY be in my projection screen! Of course.....there are 220 of them lol Now.... [ More ]

Reply #40

hypersoniq — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:54:01 GMT

I see the misunderstanding... I'm not saying ALL software is useless... I'm just referring to for sale lottery software... heck I use MS Office all the time for it, same with Visual Basic... I wouldn't have the patience for pencil and paper...

Reply #39

RJOh — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:50:22 GMT

I use software (GWBasic) to develop routines that help me optimize my choices. I don't play the same combinations more than once, I use a good mix of the numbers without picking a combination that has already won and etc and I can track previous drawings which is helpful in making those choices. All the routines include things I wished I had done earlier when I played the lottery. I keep adding routines that I think will improve my chances for a win. I assume when other players use software,... [ More ]

Reply #38

hypersoniq — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:41:09 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 29, 2003 Aren't you the guy who was trying to manipulate a Randomn Number Generator by altering the seed number? don't you use your own stuff you program? your no differnt then the other developers except you don't sell what you create. Right there is the kicker, I'm not selling anything... We DO all have the same goal.I still tweak the RNG seed system (only for PA Midday), but it has yet to impress me with backtesting so I don't waste an... [ More ]

Reply #37

Johnny5 — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:37:12 GMT

Im sorry for you QP players..but if you don't work on narrowing down your odds you might as well give me your money. I read some of the stuff you guys wrote. I must agree with Pick-4 Master. Keep it up Pick-4 Master.. software works man.. just spend as much time as you have to to narrow it down and clank the crap out of them.. it works just be persistant before you burn them up. Watch those numbers daily and don't take your eyes out of those repeated ones they tell you signs and wonders.. Ma... [ More ]

Reply #36

Johnny5 — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 19:29:53 GMT

I did not just read it all

Reply #35

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:35:11 GMT

Well the problem I have with people that make comments like you guys is that just because the software doesn't do what you want or expect somehow it's useless for EVERYONE instead of just for YOU GUYS .I don't lose money on someone elses programming if it's helping me accomplish my goal,and besides if I don't hit it's my fault not the programmer he's not playing my selections I am he didn't make my decisions I did.So in a way your putting blame on something else the programmer,all lottery softw... [ More ]

Reply #34

hypersoniq — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 17:24:44 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 29, 2003 The only SUCKERS are the one's that blame losing on something else instead of themselves. I don't blame losing on anything... it's a game and that's the risk you take laying down your $$$... at least I didn't also lose $$$ on someone else's programming.This is my main beef with current analysis software, you said yourself you had to learn how to use it to your advantage... come on, even windows Notepad has a help file... that shoul... [ More ]

Reply #33

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 16:05:56 GMT

The only SUCKERS are the one's that blame losing on something else instead of themselves. I can't hit the numbers so it must be the software or system I'm using that's making me lose .I guess everyone in this forum that purchases software and systems are suckers or maybe it's just the ones that don't win anything.If that's the case then I use to be a sucker until I learned how to use the stuff the right way.Now I'm a Intelligent Player that buys software that provides the tools I need to help... [ More ]

Reply #32

hypersoniq — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:38:08 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Pick-4_Master on December 29, 2003 How is this possible if it doesn't help players win? There's a sucker born every minute. -D. Hannum (incorrectly attributed to P.T. Barnum

Reply #31

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:33:38 GMT

The reason for this is he doesn't know how to use it like I do,another friend of mine had LottoMatrix3 which I have hit the numbers with also.He wanted me to show him how to use it and after 2 wks he was able to hit the Pick-3 in his state.He had the program for a long time but never knew how to use it properly but after I showed him some tips on using it he was able to get some good results.

Reply #30

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:30:19 GMT

One more thing I would like to mention Lottery Software has been around for over 10 yrs so if it were totally useless all the developers would have stopped making it because no one would buy it.Some well known programs like LottoPro2003 , Lottery Director and Gail Howards software are still used and sold today.How is this possible if it doesn't help players win? obviously it does or they would have gone out of business a long time ago.Not everyone will get the same results using the same progr... [ More ]

Reply #29

reddog — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:12:20 GMT

Amen

Reply #28

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:05:53 GMT

Not really I was just joking I've been using Lottery Software for several years and doing quite well.I'm not going to let a skeptic keep me from winning money.What I meant by software being as good as quick-picks was that if people can win money using quick-picks then they can win using software and systems as well.Quick-Picks are totally based on luck software and systems are not they are based on the players intelligence and decision making.If they make the wrong choice they lose if they make... [ More ]

Reply #27

Zeno — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 13:41:18 GMT

It seems that you've finall

Reply #26

BobP — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 03:20:58 GMT

I think it pays to take a good hard look at the software and wheels you use to make sure it's helping, not hurting your chances. If you've been using a software for years and it never seems to get the winning numbers together in a group you can afford to wheel, it isn't working. If it does get the winning numbers together often enough to keep you happy only the wheels never seem to win more then a 3# prize(s) make sure it isn't a split wheel where half the numbers never share a line with the o... [ More ]

Reply #25

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 02:00:21 GMT

Well if that's true then quick-picks,software,pulling numbers out of a hat,dreaming numbers,and your special psychic techniques are all useless.Hell I guess I'll stop playing all together since you say nothing works.I guess I'll tell my friends that win money using software to throw it away because it doesn't help increase your chances and I'll get rid of all my software as well.

Reply #24

Todd — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 01:03:11 GMT

I hope RJOh wins the lotter

Reply #23

Zeno — Mon, 29 Dec 2003 00:56:51 GMT

It seems that you agree with me then. Lotto analysis software is useless because your results will be no better than what you would expect from random chance.

Reply #22

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 23:51:05 GMT

I think I figured you out ZENO your ZENO the Psychic that's why you think the way you do.Anyway the point I was trying to make was that Lottery Software is useful for players that know how to use it.Your statistics don't mean anything because I know plenty of players that have won money (even jackpots)using Lottery Software it's just as good as buying Quick-Picks but I guess Quick-Picks are useless too.Whatever helps a person win is all that matters because there's NO one method,system... [ More ]

Reply #21

RJOh — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 21:18:46 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Zeno on December 28, 2003 a man and his son won the Lottery TWICE .... using Lottery Software ...you can also improve your chances of winning by owning a red car.............. sees my point. I hope you're right. I use software that I wrote and drive a red pick-up(close).RJOh

Reply #20

Zeno — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 20:59:08 GMT

One member has a post in here where a man and his son won the Lottery TWICE in his hoemtown of Ocala,FL using Lottery Software so explain how that happened if Lottery Software is so USELESS . Did you know that you can also improve your chances of winning by owning a red car? Yes, in fact 5% of the people who win the lottery own a red car. Just one statistic I forgot to mention, 5% of all tickets purchased are purchased by red car owners. I hope everyone sees my point.There is about a 1 in... [ More ]

Reply #19

hypersoniq — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:35:39 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Zeno on December 27, 2003 such software is basically worthlessNot if you are the one selling it. There must be alot of money in cashing in on false hope...Current Prediction software either does NOT work with any repeatable consistency or generates too many picks to play than anyone other than a syndicate or Jack Whittaker could afford...Current Analysis software is set up so that if you lose, it's basically YOUR fault because you didn't interpret it right ...Lotte... [ More ]

Reply #18

goose — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:01:56 GMT

stop puffing up your lucky 11$,RJOH.have you figured out how much money you have been losing since you played lotto numbers

Reply #17

goose — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:00:24 GMT

software requires the Player to make the final decisions from the information provided on what numbers to selectnow you belive what I said long time ago pick4master

Reply #16

RJOh — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:56:40 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Zeno on December 27, 2003 You guys are silly. I'm not going to post my numbers because then I'll win and I'll have to split it 1000 ways. Ya right. Dream on.... If you thought it was silly to post numbers, why did you request someone to post numbers especially for you on your first post? I posted a list of 40 lines for Wednesday Powerball and had two small winners in it. I didn't play Saturday, but I noticed it had two small winners in it again, the overall od... [ More ]

Reply #15

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:34:29 GMT

There isn't any need for this challenge if you feel lottery software doesn't work then no one needs to prove it to you.Lottery Software only works for players that really know how to use it.I use to think Software wouldn't work either but after losing so much buying quick-picks I decided I would learn how to use it.Now I do a whole lot better when I play the games I select my own numbers by developing strategies and using software.BEST of Luck to you Mr.Lottery Wizard

Reply #14

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 06:24:14 GMT

Your the one that's silly ZENO it's quite obvious you didn't do much research before making these silly comments.You don't seem to know the difference between Prediction software and Analysis software so I'm gonna explain it too you.First of all Predcition software will generate combinations based on criteria set from the options menu.It can't just give you 1 combo of six numbers and guarantee any hits,it could possibly give you some hits with anywhere from 20-100 combo's.This software will... [ More ]

Reply #13

Zeno — Sun, 28 Dec 2003 01:22:20 GMT

You guys are silly. I'm not going to post my numbers because then I'll win and I'll have to split it 1000 ways. Ya right. Dream on....If lotto analysis software actually worked, it should be able to come up with a set of 6 numbers that are most likely to be drawn. Therefore, anybody who has such software should be able to easily pass the test that was set forth at the beginning of the post. I'm not asking anybody to win the whole thing, just win any prize 8 or more times in 104 drawings.... [ More ]

Reply #12

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:39:26 GMT

Combination 15 came closest boxed.

Reply #11

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 23:38:17 GMT

12/27/03 FL Pick-4 Numbers (3127

Reply #10

Johnny5 — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 17:17:21 GMT

Well I don't do the PowerBall thing anymore but here are some Pick-4 Numbers you might want to try on the next Pick-4 draw for the Florida Pick-4:Possible next draw numbers for : 12/27/2003834982238815034902230815134912231815132313151249121518491823832383158249821588498823032303150249021508490823And I must agree with Pick-4 Master . Programs used for lotto are only analitical programs not predicting programs. I guess you would have to get God's favor to predict anything really, but for righ... [ More ]

Reply #9

hypersoniq — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:44:56 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Zeno on December 27, 2003 Thank you very much for proving that nobody can predict lottery numbers!As I've already posted, I didn't think anybody would seriously take up the challenge.What did you expect when dealing with a jackpot game? You should try this in the pick 3 or pick 4 threads, there can be multiple winners without diminishing the prize and for that reason it is a much more open and sharing subset of the LP community...

Reply #8

goose — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 07:47:35 GMT

As I've already posted, I didn't think anybody would seriously take up the challenge.I Think you are wrong indeed this time.That guy is me who is going to make a miracle.I am just controling everything right now till one time I give a best shot.goose isn't a real goose.

Reply #7

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 05:03:56 GMT

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that I don't buy Prediction Software only Analysis Software and it has helped me win money in the Pick-3,4 and 5 plus I have read messages of players that have won Pick-5 jackpots using Lottery Software.

Reply #6

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:58:47 GMT

Your absolutely right ZENO no person or program can predict the EXACT 6 Lottery Numbers but it's quite obvious your biased as to the possibility of using other methods that are not considered predicting.First of all only people that claim to be PSYCHICS would say such nonsense,those of us that aren't psychic use Analysis Software to help select numbers to wheel.By wheeling a group of numbers say 18-24 and applying filters you can dramatically increase your chances of hitting 3 to 6 numbe... [ More ]

Reply #5

BobP — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:52:48 GMT

Here's 11 jackpots for you.

Reply #4

interceptor — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:49:04 GMT

451 p3 this coming thurs, the first thursday of january 2004

Reply #3

Zeno — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 04:28:30 GMT

Thank you very much for proving that nobody can predict lottery numbers!As I've already posted, I didn't think anybody would seriously take up the challenge.

Reply #2

gilla — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:28:09 GMT

If I was going to go thru the time to look up numbers on a big jackpot, I would post them after draw break... would hate to have to split it up to 50 ways, lol

Reply #1

RJOh — Sat, 27 Dec 2003 03:23:04 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Zeno on December 26, 2003 my challenge is as follows:1) post one set of five numbers and one Megaball number at least one hour before each MM drawing.2) If you can win 8 or more times out of 104 drawings then it's highly likely that your lottery prediction system works.Do we have any takers?Dream on fellow,Anybody that can do that will not be wasting their time trying to prove anything to you or anybody else, they will be too busy making money playing the lottery. R... [ More ]