Best Pick-5 and 6 Lottery Software

Reply #49

Andrew — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:06:46 GMT

Well, how the charts seem to work coincides with how WINHunter works. Numbers are weighted inside the Processors and given an overall final score based on the weight factor calculations. Each individual Processor outputs its score to the parent Filter, which totals all of the processors it drives. This filter then passes it's scores up to its parent group, which then totals all of the child Filters it contains. This Group then passes the final scores into a Selector Object, which then determ... [ More ]

Reply #48

BobP — Wed, 18 Feb 2004 05:56:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Andrew on February 17, 2004 BobP,You can weight each function individually inside WINHunter, thus giving that function an edge over the others.Perhaps you could explain this charting method to me, and I could implement it into WINHunter (unless it is copywrited, then I am not so sure...) Although, I don't see how you can copywrite a method i.e. - as in cooking a hamburger, etc.AndrewThe Gail Howard software uses seven charts for the prediction process, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,... [ More ]

Reply #47

Andrew — Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:56:52 GMT

BobP,You can weight each function individually inside WINHunter, thus giving that function an edge over the others.Perhaps you could explain this charting method to me, and I could implement it into WINHunter (unless it is copywrited, then I am not so sure...) Although, I don't see how you can copywrite a method i.e. - as in cooking a hamburger, etc. Hypersoniq,Actually, I used the last 10-20 draws to build a stack that captured a past 6 of 6 match (6/53, florida lottery) out of 11 predicted ba... [ More ]

Reply #46

lottoshlep — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:09:05 GMT

WIN

Reply #45

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:25:09 GMT

I like that idea Hypersoniq

Reply #44

hypersoniq — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:51:31 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on January 27, 2004 I think all averages are deceptive and lead to false conclusions for lottery software that base prediction on them rather than a straight up count of dvents that occured. BobP exactly. Averages imply that the numbers on the balls have some sort of mathematical significance, unfortunately they do not. Averaging the numbers on the top 3 finishers of a NASCAR race is not going to ever determine who wins the next one (unless purely by coincidence

Reply #43

WILLSELL — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:55:18 GMT

You have to be in it to win it. Put another way money comes to money.I am saying this because in my system my ability to win is predicated on what I am willing to spend. I like to play what I call the base numbers and I do hit often ..the problem is is it cost to hit. Example ... In NJ the box bet use to be 200.00 -300.00 consistently. So I would play 3 sets of base numbers generated from my system at a cost of 82.50. If I hit my profit was 100%Plus. But lately at least in the past year or 2 I h... [ More ]

Reply #42

lottoshlep — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 07:34:11 GMT

Having spent some time with Andrew's WINHunter (wish I had unlimited amounts of time), attempting crude programming like Bob (old QBasic comes to mind) and having cut my lotto teeth on Gail's prog I can see where both sides are coming from. Just wish I possessed a tenth of Andrew's programming skills and a tenth of Bob's lotto insights ... tell you right now that'd be one deadly combination!!But like most I'll remain the grunt in the trenches that can take any available lotto program and slowly... [ More ]

Reply #41

BobP — Sat, 14 Feb 2004 05:52:25 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Andrew on February 12, 2004 Quote: Originally posted by BobP on February 12, 2004 Like most mechanized things we use, lottery software should be as easy as flipping a switch to automatically get a good result like cooking in the microwave and at the same time be capable of much more for those who are inclined to cook from scratch. A good kitchen shouldn't leave you half baked. BobPHow do you propose we get there? I can tell you from experience, that in order for s... [ More ]

Reply #40

Andrew — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:04:48 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on February 12, 2004 Like most mechanized things we use, lottery software should be as easy as flipping a switch to automatically get a good result like cooking in the microwave and at the same time be capable of much more for those who are inclined to cook from scratch. A good kitchen shouldn't leave you half baked. BobPHow do you propose we get there? I can tell you from experience, that in order for software to be able to come up with a good solution (mayb... [ More ]

Reply #39

BobP — Thu, 12 Feb 2004 05:20:26 GMT

Andrew:When I use the Gail Howard software it preforms the same functions as a statistical lottery program's set of tools, and at the same time puts an * after the numbers it predicts are most probable based on that chart's stats.After the draw the program puts a + next to the numbers on the chart that won and leaves up the * too. You can use the + and - keys to move back and forth through the history of the chart to see how it's been doing pick wise. Now sometimes I want that prediction and... [ More ]

Reply #38

Andrew — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:14:41 GMT

NW panhandle

Reply #37

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:12:36 GMT

I'm in Miami where are you

Reply #36

Andrew — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 17:31:01 GMT

Pick-4_Master,BTW, I'm in Florida as well...*grin

Reply #35

Pick-4_Master — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:46:22 GMT

The possible reason for players not taking advantage of this software is due to it's complexity.I have the program myself and like it very much and plan on using it.At the moment I use other programs that I'm already familiar with.I have a program called LottoMatrix3 that is very sophisticated it was developed back in 1999I shared it with other players and only a few were able to use it effectively.It took me some time to master all it's features so since WinHunter is the most sophisticated pr... [ More ]

Reply #34

goose — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:25:35 GMT

Let fact speak.

Reply #33

Andrew — Wed, 11 Feb 2004 13:49:40 GMT

Quotes: Originally posted by BobP on February 10, 2004 IMHO the best lottery software design should offer prediction with a switch that allows it to be turned on and off, thus everyone can be happy.I think there are several software camps to date, and I think they were mentioned in another thread somewhere else (RGL?)... You have predictors, analyzers and wheelers. Some tend to combine a few features of both, but usually they are in one camp or the other. With that in mind, why would you wan... [ More ]

Reply #32

BobP — Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:46:57 GMT

IMHO the best lottery software design should offer prediction with a switch that allows it to be turned on and off, thus everyone can be happy.True lottery software worthy of the name would have a self correcting prediction routine that automatically plays the system in all its manifestations against the history, finds the most succesful path now due and present that result to the user. I'm not talking about the one that generates thousands of systems until ten hit and suggests you pick one of... [ More ]

Reply #31

Andrew — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:14:14 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on January 10, 2004 Software never make any decisions. If any decision are made, it is based on the logic that someone has programmed into the software, and if the user is not making any decision than he is allowing some programmer to make decisions for him good or bad and mostly bad. ...(snip)Maybe you haven't tried the AI portion of WINHunter.It seems users are split over whether or not they want the software to make a choice, or not. In WINHunter, you have... [ More ]

Reply #30

Andrew — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 16:02:47 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by MikeK on January 10, 2004 My question is: What really is Lottery Softwae ?If you own a software that evaluates your previous drawings and makes you decide what to play by offering all filters etc. then in my opinion it is not really a Lottery Software but a Lottery Tool.I think that the computer porgram should pick the numbers and do the selection for you. The only filter impact (human interface) should be on the number of selections and slight adjustments according

Reply #29

Andrew — Mon, 09 Feb 2004 15:52:06 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Greg on January 15, 2004 In my view, the trick is NOT whose software you are using. Rather, the trick is HOW you utilize the software's FEATURES, that is, the information or data the software presents. All lottery software basically has the same features with rare exception (although they might present the data in a slightly different way).A lottery player skilled at interpreting data, forecasting (not predicting) data, and using common strategies adeptly is going to... [ More ]

Reply #28

Pick-4_Master — Sun, 08 Feb 2004 12:52:55 GMT

No software will give you CONSISTANT hits if it's designed to select and wheel the numbers like Lotto-Cheatah.Lotto-Hat is strictly an ANALYSIS program Lotto-Pro 2004 can do both ANALYSIS and FORECAST numbers Lotto-Cheatah just does FORECAST\PREDICTION.I've had more hits from using ANALYSIS software in the Pick-3/4 games and a few with FORECASTING software like MaxHit-Pro and Lotto-Pro 2004.I use Analysis software to help me select my own numbers then apply filters to reduce my combinations.... [ More ]

Reply #27

Colin F — Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:12:05 GMT

Bobby623You're on the right track. Somehow you've got to program what you're doing - too much work the way your doing it now.The main thing is you're getting away from a fixation on those damm numbers and thinking more abstractly.By playing with numbers you won't get much more than 100% above Random Selections if that. To get 300 or 400% above that you have to take a leap in abstract thinking.I'm not so vain as to think I'm the only one to get there- others I believe get similar results or are w... [ More ]

Reply #26

bobby623 — Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:53:03 GMT

I've tried every number generator (Lotto Hat, Lotto Pro, Cheatah, etc) I could find on the internet that was within my budget. None of them has produced consistent results for me. I have a couple that have NEVER come close to picking the right numbers. A couple can't seem to get 20f5!!!As an alternative, I built my own method of selecting numbers. It begins with substitution of numbers for letters, A=1-9, B=10-19, etc) In a pick 5 of 37 game, there are 435,897 combinations. With substitution, th... [ More ]

Reply #25

numbersman — Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:53:14 GMT

Lotto Buster 2002

Reply #24

goose — Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:46:13 GMT

roger

Reply #23

BobP — Tue, 27 Jan 2004 05:19:18 GMT

I think all averages are deceptive and lead to false conclusions for lottery software that base prediction on them rather than a straight up count of dvents that occured. BobP

Reply #22

goose — Sat, 24 Jan 2004 02:38:35 GMT

None is much better than the others

Reply #21

hypersoniq — Tue, 20 Jan 2004 03:32:17 GMT

in any long range test with a large collection of past draws, the FORECAST tends to either align itself with the arithmetic mean (average) or the median of the same set of data.... not very reliable. (at least not the excel implementation

Reply #20

hypersoniq — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 19:02:10 GMT

My take on things...FORECASTING... Smoothing, Curve-fitting... finding an unknown Y with a list of known X values and a list of previous values of Y...The equation for FORECAST is a+bx, where:and:PREDICTING.... Precision, Weighted variables in the calculations... I have no formulae for this yet...

Reply #19

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:55:22 GMT

This should be interesting because I consider PREDICTING as being able to select the EXACT set of numbers that will be drawn like (5,12,19,21,34,46}and FORECASTING would be selecting a GROUP of numbers to wheel like (1,2,5,9,10,12,14,19,20,21,23,25,34,38,43,46)another perspective on this would be enlightening.

Reply #18

MikeK — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:53:51 GMT

Question, Greg...What is the difference between forecasting and predicting from your point of view

Reply #17

Greg — Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:45:32 GMT

In my view, the trick is NOT whose software you are using. Rather, the trick is HOW you utilize the software's FEATURES, that is, the information or data the software presents. All lottery software basically has the same features with rare exception (although they might present the data in a slightly different way).A lottery player skilled at interpreting data, forecasting (not predicting) data, and using common strategies adeptly is going to have a greater probability of landing some numbers t... [ More ]

Reply #16

hypersoniq — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 03:12:35 GMT

BobP, you basically described WinHunter... it's more complex than any other software out there, but it does allow bypassing (and writing your own filters) and you can't beat the licensing... it's free (Open Source Visual Basic... you won't find source code for any $$$ system)http://winhunter.lottotutor.com/I'm still busy trying to make my own stuff work, but one day I will have to go over this program and its source code, it really is qute amazing in it's open architecture.... [ More ]

Reply #15

duveV — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:22:09 GMT

So which one of them software is good for pick six

Reply #14

Pick-4_Master — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:13:21 GMT

It works for ME!!!!!!!!!!! and other members in this FORUM but just like Quick-Picks Software doesn't help everyone WIN.

Reply #13

BobP — Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:45:13 GMT

If we're talking about a serious lottery program (not one for fun) I want it to do everything. I expect it to make a valid attempt at predicting numbers based on knowledge the author has learned from the game and programmed in there to win themselves. Maybe it works and maybe it doesn't, but I expect it to try. Then I also expect a way to bypass the automatic system so I can work out my own path through the features.We're all here looking for ideas on how to win. Lottery software should offe... [ More ]

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:49:49 GMT

I continue to test software on a trial basis and if I find something that is better than I have, I will buy it. Like I have said many time the thing I liked about Lotto Pro was its files were in an ASCII format which made them easy to transport into my program and I bought it and continue to buy their file update service yearly. I can download an updated file for any lottery in the world almost ready to run in my own program with little typing and they also run in Lotto Pro.RJOh

Reply #11

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:08:32 GMT

I don't have any problems with the software I buy because I make sure it can do exactly what I want before I buy it.I don't like programs that do all the work for me because most of them do it all wrong except for 2 that I own Max-HitPro and Your Lucky Numbers 2001

Reply #10

RJOh — Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:24:35 GMT

Software never make any decisions. If any decision are made, it is based on the logic that someone has programmed into the software, and if the user is not making any decision than he is allowing some programmer to make decisions for him good or bad and mostly bad. I don't mind a program making decisions along as I know why it made the decision. For example I was testing a demo program for pick5 the other day and put the history of the drawings in it and it never picked a number between 1-5... [ More ]

Reply #9

lottosyncman — Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:28:16 GMT

true i agree!!!! if the end result is you having to make the final selection of numbers whats the point in using the software

Reply #8

MikeK — Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:58:38 GMT

My question is: What really is Lottery Softwae ?If you own a software that evaluates your previous drawings and makes you decide what to play by offering all filters etc. then in my opinion it is not really a Lottery Software but a Lottery Tool.I think that the computer porgram should pick the numbers and do the selection for you. The only filter impact (human interface) should be on the number of selections and slight adjustments according to the player's indivual needs, the numbers should be... [ More ]

Reply #7

RJOh — Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:54:55 GMT

Excalibur,My program started was originally written for Buckeye5/37 and Ohio6/44 and had an extra character for jackpot amounts. Over the years I changed the jackpot amount to a bonus ball and the file structure has stayed the same. It only works for pick5's and pick6's game with/without bonus balls. RJOh

Reply #6

EXCALIBUR — Sat, 10 Jan 2004 03:57:36 GMT

HiRJOh Can your program be used for pick 3 also

Reply #5

Pick-4_Master — Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:18:46 GMT

RJOH your personal program has similar features used in Lotto-Hat you can set Filtering parameters like Even-Odd,Sums,Consecutives,Line Width,Hot-Cold,Key Numbers etc... and it will generate Random lines based on your settings.Then it goes further by allowing the player to select Numbers and Filters in which it will generate Random Lines from.From my tests itperforms much better when it generates lines from numbers and filters instead of just filters.I've finally got it to generate 10 combo... [ More ]

Reply #4

RJOh — Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:55:03 GMT

I prefer my own home-grown program written some years back using GWBasic, a programming language popular with MS-DOS. I've revised it over the years and it run fine in a DOS or Command Window in Windows98 or XP. It's a basic lottery data program that analyzes pass drawings and uses a RNG to generate picks within the parameters(sums, gaps, ranges, positions and etc.) of pass hits. I have a copy of Lotto Pro and its files ,with a small modification, are compatible with my program, so I have a s... [ More ]

Reply #3

hypersoniq — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 19:29:57 GMT

Microsoft Office (Excel, Access...

Reply #2

Pick-4_Master — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:56:52 GMT

Lotto-Hat

Reply #1

Guru — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:44:13 GMT

I would only use my Lo

Best Pick-5 and 6 Lottery Software

BobP — Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:18:47 GMT

Ok people, you're trapped in Nowheresville with only one commercial lottery software on the laptop and you want to play the local games, what software would you want it to be