Predictions - Are You Serious ?

Reply #54

prob987 — Tue, 04 May 2004 01:21:11 GMT

Jake,Thanks for motivating me to consider the problem of odds and wheeling. As we discussed, I have an intuitive sense that restricted wheeling lowers one odds with multiple tickets. Still, your response at first set me back a bit, because of your statement about the odds for the second ball being higher in a wheel.I have now a better, more formal demonstration of why restrictive wheeling reduces odds overall, consistent with my intuitive feeling. I'm pretty busy right now and don't have time... [ More ]

Reply #53

chevelle — Mon, 03 May 2004 19:03:58 GMT

are we here to make some money or are we here to run on with something that is reaching no where.i am a predictor and i will forever post and get numbers from others here.thats the beauty of it all.one love.cut out the long drawn out talk because while this going on it taking up the time you could scroll through and win some money.

Reply #52

tg636 — Mon, 03 May 2004 18:57:40 GMT

I am not someone who tries to figure out what the next number might be, but if you consider it in the fun and interesting category instead of the I know I'm going to get rich soon category, what's to make fun of? Obviously winning MegaMillions is insanely difficult to win through guessing or picking random numbers, and it's insanely difficult to win even if you are a total whiz at probability and whatever system might work - but if you think it's fun to try a system, go for it and see if it... [ More ]

Reply #51

WyldBluePearls — Mon, 03 May 2004 17:38:20 GMT

Can I ask you a questio

Reply #50

BIRD — Mon, 03 May 2004 14:24:37 GMT

dragon welcome, what is serious to you ?my experience with lotterypost and other forums is that its serious when you redeem that ticket and I must say I have redeemed quite a few .rich I am not from it, but I have done quite well.my point is we would like to believe that we are one step closer to a large sum of cash and we come from all walks of life now I dont use software but what ever works.

Reply #49

four4me — Mon, 03 May 2004 13:52:32 GMT

Dragon my two cents worth. I have had co workers question me about buying lottery tickets. Saying why do I spend so much time looking for number combinations and trying various methods to hit numbers. Many of these co workers don't play the lottery or even give it a second thought. However when I do hit say a pick 4 for $5000 big dog dollars or more they would come to me and ask how I managed to hit for that much. I tell them it only cost me a buck. There usually reply is oh! When I ask them if... [ More ]

Reply #48

Teufellj — Mon, 03 May 2004 11:54:01 GMT

Good Day to you, Dragon,I see that you have started to get a HOT welcome.I am a serious pick 3 player but I will not use any prepackaged program. I am serious enough that I've trained myself to ask, Who, What, When, Why and How. This person uses only...Three types of computer to get to my point of this discussion.A hybrid (calculator); an ME/Windows operated computer for placing and predictions files for storage and...My brain, the best computer for thoughts and analyzing before I use the oth... [ More ]

Reply #47

golotto — Mon, 03 May 2004 08:11:53 GMT

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Reply #46

st.germain — Mon, 03 May 2004 05:26:07 GMT

Well dragon ..i guess it is time to welcome you on board after your initiation i hope the members were not too rough on you....obviously you stumbled on to this site in hope of seeking a higher standard in your life..and so be it...but in order to win you still have to buy a ticket and then let us know how your doing......I gaurantee that everyone is waiting to see how you do with the rest of us....and of course good fortune to you. I personally do not think that you are a GOOSE . J... [ More ]

Reply #45

dragon — Mon, 03 May 2004 03:26:16 GMT

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Reply #44

weshar75 — Mon, 03 May 2004 02:32:15 GMT

Goose / LottoKing is a former member of lottery post. He was kicked out for his fowl tongue. no pun intended!-Dragon

Reply #43

Todd — Mon, 03 May 2004 02:32:09 GMT

dragon,goose

Reply #42

dragon — Mon, 03 May 2004 01:45:43 GMT

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Reply #41

dragon — Mon, 03 May 2004 01:33:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by dragon on May 02, 2004Quote: Originally posted by Winner2Be on May 02, 2004St. Germain-- Don't be a goose --that was exactly my thought on this, and it still makes me wonder...is this another goose?Todd--what do you think...is it another goose ?Just a thought to ponder...To all my lotto buddies--Happy Winnings today, and don't forget it's all about having fun!! I am embarrassed: What's a 'goose?' Nobody wants to tell the goose.

Reply #40

dragon — Mon, 03 May 2004 01:23:47 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on May 02, 2004Now I plan on working my way up to a CNC G-Code programmer at the machine shop... get close to that old salary... The worst thing about the economy-driven game of musical jobs is that I will forever be the low man seniority-wise.As for Neural Nets, I have tried some commercial demos on lottery data with no positive results, and have read a good book on pattern recognition... I have yet to develop one from scratch though... I would be intere... [ More ]

Reply #39

emilyg — Mon, 03 May 2004 01:16:44 GMT

did you check your pm dragon

Reply #38

dragon — Mon, 03 May 2004 01:14:32 GMT

Prob987 and Jake649Thanks for your thorough discussion on duplication of odds, etc. I have taken it offline and I'll be reviewing your numbers and assumptions. After I have a chance to do the math, I'll post my comments and thoughts.

Reply #37

dragon — Mon, 03 May 2004 01:11:58 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by emilyg on May 02, 2004what state you play dragon??California.

Reply #36

prob987 — Sun, 02 May 2004 23:27:32 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Jake649 on May 02, 2004Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on May 02, 2004At the moment just before the first white ball is drawn you will have in the non-repeating set, a probability of 10 in 53 of having one number in either ticket. In the second set, sharing one number, you will have a probability of only 9 in 53 of having one number in either ticket. This means that you have an 18.9% of remaining in the game in the first case, and a 17.0% chance of remaining in

Reply #35

BobP — Sun, 02 May 2004 22:29:07 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by fja on May 02, 2004Sorry Bob P You cant by 2 tickets and cut a six million to one odd in half, but you are right about everything else, If I hit a winning streak cause I buy my hand picked numbers at a certain store, then thats where I'll buy them until I that bit of luck goes dry.....Its just that way! I did some research on this a while back and found official Canadian lottery web sites agree with you and official U.S. lottery web sites selling two tickets for a d... [ More ]

Reply #34

emilyg — Sun, 02 May 2004 21:32:55 GMT

what state you play dragon

Reply #33

Jake649 — Sun, 02 May 2004 21:27:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by prob987 on May 02, 2004At the moment just before the first white ball is drawn you will have in the non-repeating set, a probability of 10 in 53 of having one number in either ticket. In the second set, sharing one number, you will have a probability of only 9 in 53 of having one number in either ticket. This means that you have an 18.9% of remaining in the game in the first case, and a 17.0% chance of remaining in the game in the second case. Clearly, before the f... [ More ]

Reply #32

mazie789 — Sun, 02 May 2004 17:38:54 GMT

Mr. dragon if i may add m

Reply #31

mazie789 — Sun, 02 May 2004 17:36:43 GMT

Mr. dragon if i may add m

Reply #30

hypersoniq — Sun, 02 May 2004 16:58:22 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by dragon on May 02, 2004I know exactly what you mean. Been there, done that. Where are you located geograpically (wondering about the economy and your skills)?Northeast PA... Experience came from 11 months of training after the NAFTA-Shaft-a and over 10 years serving as unpaid tech support for family, friends and co-workers . Before getting hired as a full-time machinist, I was the instructor for 17 months in the computer school that I went to...Then they too decided

Reply #29

Winner2Be — Sun, 02 May 2004 16:34:45 GMT

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dragon — Sun, 02 May 2004 16:24:23 GMT

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Reply #27

prob987 — Sun, 02 May 2004 16:19:56 GMT

When thinking about the probability reduction in buying two powerball tickets, consider the case of two sets of two tickets, one having ten different numbers and one having nine different numbers, meaning that both tickets share one number. (I am ignoring the powerball)At the moment just before the first white ball is drawn you will have in the non-repeating set, a probability of 10 in 53 of having one number in either ticket. In the second set, sharing one number, you will have a probability

Reply #26

dragon — Sun, 02 May 2004 16:19:14 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Winner2Be on May 02, 2004St. Germain-- Don't be a goose --that was exactly my thought on this, and it still makes me wonder...is this another goose?Todd--what do you think...is it another goose ?Just a thought to ponder...To all my lotto buddies--Happy Winnings today, and don't forget it's all about having fun!! I am embarrassed: What's a 'goose

Reply #25

hypersoniq — Sun, 02 May 2004 15:25:24 GMT

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Reply #24

Winner2Be — Sun, 02 May 2004 14:30:55 GMT

St. Germain-- Don't be a goose --that was exactly my thought on this, and it still makes me wonder...is this another goose?Todd--what do you think...is it another goose ?Just a thought to ponder...To all my lotto buddies--Happy Winnings today, and don't forget it's all about having fun

Reply #23

fja — Sun, 02 May 2004 14:19:43 GMT

Sorry Bob P You cant by 2 tickets and cut a six million to one odd in half, but you are right about everything else, If I hit a winning streak cause I buy my hand picked numbers at a certain store, then thats where I'll buy them until I that bit of luck goes dry.....Its just that way

Reply #22

st.germain — Sun, 02 May 2004 04:57:04 GMT

Dragon...I like to call MY method a study in mathematical probability...You may not know it but there are a lot of big money winners in this here post and most of them are being modest . So ..sit back and absorb the wisdom that comes forth(don't forget to buy a ticket). Good fortune to you (and don't be a goose).

Reply #21

Thomas Covenant — Sun, 02 May 2004 04:37:56 GMT

>>Maybe the forum needs an agnostic or atheist section?<<I doubt that would happen, as far as I know, there is only one atheist on this board.

Reply #20

waynr — Sun, 02 May 2004 04:10:44 GMT

dragon, probably better to just leave the bubbles alone. remember, you have one too.

Reply #19

Todd — Sun, 02 May 2004 03:38:24 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by dragon on May 01, 2004Maybe the forum needs an agnostic or atheist section?No thanks.

Reply #18

prob987 — Sun, 02 May 2004 02:32:47 GMT

I know that lottery numbers cannot be predicted. If they could be predicted all of the lotteries would go out of business rather quickly. That said, a predicted number is as likely to win as is any other number. If one likes to predict, there is no harm in it.Certainly there are some lottery winners who will tell everyone that they predicted their wins. Of course, there are also lots of people who won with quick-picks. Neither class of winners proves that one type of playing is b... [ More ]

Reply #17

Konformthismfs — Sun, 02 May 2004 01:31:32 GMT

Over 100,000 saved, posted

Reply #16

dragon — Sun, 02 May 2004 01:26:14 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Colin F on May 01, 2004DragonDid you know that Australia was the first Democracy to have at the same time an Atheist as its Governor General and an Agnostic as it Prime Minister.My prediction is that is impossible in the good ol' USA.You see you get all kinds of info and predictions on this forum. Warms the les of your heart (if you need it.)RegardsColinWell, Colin, here is a prediction I am willing to bet money on. There won't be a US president that's an atheist in a... [ More ]

Reply #15

Colin F — Sun, 02 May 2004 01:11:23 GMT

DragonDid you know that Australia was the first Democracy to have at the same time an Atheist as its Governor General and an Agnostic as it Prime Minister.My prediction is that is impossible in the good ol' USA.You see you get all kinds of info and predictions on this forum. Warms the les of your heart (if you need it.)RegardsColin

Reply #14

RJOh — Sun, 02 May 2004 01:06:20 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by dragon on May 01, 2004..... It's not surprising that this topic has been bashed around here time after time, and perhaps that gets boring to the regulars and long-time visitors. But trust me, when you first come in here, front and center, it's not obvious.......Use the search features if you want to know what has been posted in the past about a subject or by a member.RJOh

Reply #13

dragon — Sat, 01 May 2004 23:41:52 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on May 01, 2004Dragonwelcome to lottery post. You asked questions on your post that has been bashed around before time after time. There are many postings here on systems. As well as postings from the quick pick believers.Lottery draws are random. When I track the numbers I organize the randomness.Thanks for for clarification. It's not surprising that this topic has been bashed around here time after time, and perhaps that gets boring to the regulars and long... [ More ]

Reply #12

st.germain — Sat, 01 May 2004 23:23:24 GMT

Gentlespirit pretty much said how we all feel ...for many of us it is a hobby and I am sure that nobody is trying to ostracize you...we welcome your comments and welcome you to the lottery post....PLAY ON

Reply #11

JAP69 — Sat, 01 May 2004 23:15:29 GMT

Dragonwelcome to lottery post. You asked questions on your post that has been bashed around before time after time. There are many postings here on systems. As well as postings from the quick pick believers.Lottery draws are random. When I track the numbers I organize the randomness.

Reply #10

dragon — Sat, 01 May 2004 23:02:59 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by brdman12 on May 01, 2004the only thing you are wrong about dragon is everything....random numbers are not random...I guess I missed something. Random numbers are not random? So the lotteries that draw numbers around the world draw according to some plan? I would be curious to find out more about what's not random and random.

Reply #9

mazie789 — Sat, 01 May 2004 22:07:15 GMT

i agree

Reply #8

Todd — Sat, 01 May 2004 21:52:39 GMT

Gentlespirit,Well said

Reply #7

emilyg — Sat, 01 May 2004 20:48:31 GMT

very serious.

Reply #6

st.germain — Sat, 01 May 2004 19:51:38 GMT

hello dragon...YES..we are serious..and what are you besides being Curious

Reply #5

Pick-4_Master — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:56:28 GMT

I believe you don't understand the fundamentals of gambling,are totally misinformed of what players objectives are by using these tools and miss the point entirely of what gamblers do.First of all this subject has been beaten to death in here so it really makes me laugh when it pops up every blue moon.Let me educate you on this whole thing first of all everyone in here that uses systems,software and strategies are very intelligent and have had success using these mehtods even me.Yes the lottery... [ More ]

Reply #4

brdman12 — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:52:27 GMT

the only thing you are wrong about dragon is everything....random numbers are not random...

Reply #3

JAP69 — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:40:30 GMT

I use various methods of research to define the odds of probability for the future drawings.All the different methods used are for decision making.My pick 4 all states selections are based on the higher odds of probabilty from past results of those number combinations. There are 720 pick 4 combinations which I have reduced down to about 200 combinations.

Reply #2

Todd — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:32:58 GMT

dragon, why are you here

Reply #1

NBey6 — Sat, 01 May 2004 16:26:08 GMT

Everything is everything. Let's not forget that and that is why you have people working together to help anyone on this site make some $$$$$.I have been working since I was 15 years old and I am 36 now. No one but my parents have given me anything and I don't plan to work for someone the rest of my life, so we all have to do something, and this is it for me.Yes you can predict what is going to happen and yes you may or may not be get rich doing it. But the one thing that everyone on this site... [ More ]

Predictions - Are You Serious ?

dragon — Sat, 01 May 2004 15:46:54 GMT

I find this entire forum filled with seemingly thousands of posts from smart people trying to predict what the lottery outcomes will be. They often use software of various kinds.Are you all serious? You actually believe that a piece of software, by definition something that moves around numbers, can predict what's going to happen in some other drawing machine or other piece of software down the line, based on what happened in the past with that other piece of software?You can look at the stars... [ More ]