Computer or Natural(Ball based machines)?

Reply #27

CASH Only — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:48:45 GMT

Not counting PowerPlay, Mass is the only state I know of using wheels.

Reply #26

DoctorEw220 — Mon, 30 Aug 2004 00:16:48 GMT

i know they will be next. they already announced it, even thought their hostesses are recignized statewide, and everyone there is used to seeing the drawings live and non-computerized. even though the wheels they use for the numbers game seem a little flawed (you can figure out what hits by using the laws of physics.).

Reply #25

CASH Only — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:21:20 GMT

EW:You think Mass will be next

Reply #24

DoctorEw220 — Thu, 19 Aug 2004 02:40:13 GMT

with keno, it's a little more understandable because they would have t keep those drawings hours apart if they used ball machines.

Reply #23

CASH Only — Wed, 18 Aug 2004 20:25:14 GMT

Are you counting keno every few minutes

Reply #22

DoctorEw220 — Sun, 08 Aug 2004 03:51:19 GMT

i like the ball machines because it tells you that the drawing is authentic. also, if a drawing error occurs, you see it.

Reply #21

JimmySand9 — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 21:50:54 GMT

Ugh, I hate RNGs. I play because I like seeing the balls bounce around and hope they come up the right way. I'm a firm believer in the things computers can do. But there are two things I don't want them doing, flying passenger aircraft, and drawing lottery numbers.

Reply #20

DoctorEw220 — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 05:24:08 GMT

i can think of a few states (such as NY, MA, NJ and PA-nite) that will never go to a RNG. They would just lose all their player support.

Reply #19

lottoscorp — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:26:02 GMT

I guess yo

Reply #18

ryanm — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 05:35:38 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by hypersoniq on July 30, 2004the biggest pitfall would e the simple query of the played numbers database to exclude combos heavily played... Thus eliminating another occurrence like last Tuesday's Mega Millions drawing where there are thirty-four $175,000 winners when the lottery expects only four.

Reply #17

hypersoniq — Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:37:39 GMT

the biggest pitfall would e the simple query of the played numbers database to exclude combos heavily played...

Reply #16

JADELottery — Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:16:49 GMT

Another thing comes to mind. How do you audit a virtual dvent. With ball based machine, at least you could see what is going on... now, 'out of sight, out of mind' is the goal.

Reply #15

JADELottery — Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:26:05 GMT

Thank you for the respnoses. I also voted no. There seems something sinister and wrong about letting a lottery industry controlled machine that could be programmed to select numbers based on some program we have information on, i. e. the source code, that produces the numbers. Also, there could be other code loaded on a computer that we would not know about that could influence the outcome of those numbers. My analogy is, this would be just like having someone the lottery industry knows very wel... [ More ]

Reply #14

PrisonerSix — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:32:51 GMT

Unfortuanately, Louisiana has been using a computer for its lottery games for some time now. The Pick 3 and Pick 4 games are computer picked. Don't know about Cash Quest, Lotto, etc., but it wouldn't surprise me if they were.

Reply #13

caronel — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:50:30 GMT

Never!They can kiss their revenueGOOD BYE!!caronel

Reply #12

BobP — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 00:34:47 GMT

I voted no, I would stop trying to predict the numbers and just buy an occasional Quick Pick ticket if I was feeling lucky that day. BobpSee . . . Axis of Weaselshttp://www.lotto-logix.com/weasels.html

Reply #11

golotto — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:56:34 GMT

When I choose my own numbers and the drawing is done with a mechanical machine using numbered lotto balls...I feel that it's just me against the whims of Lady Luck and I'm totally satisfied with the numbers drawn...win or lose! I feel that the result is random and fair.But, when I choose my numbers to play and the actual drawing is done with a computer program...I feel like I'm playing against a totally different set of rules no matter what the lottery may claim. I don't like that game and can't... [ More ]

Reply #10

hypersoniq — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:55:24 GMT

In short, No!One of these days I plan on setting up a program just to see if I can duplicate the PA daily pick 3/4 guess at the time they pick it (1:35 P.M. EST) using a Visual Basic random seed extractor I had previously been developing... If I can get positive results over a full week of draws (similar seed resulting in the right number) then I will go ahead and play a computer picked game, but barring that, never...

Reply #9

DoctorEw220 — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 23:10:22 GMT

computers aren't completely perfetc when it comes to randomly drawing numbers.

Reply #8

Lucky — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 22:18:45 GMT

I voted no - the day Ohio starts using a computer to draw numbers is the day I stop playing in Ohio

Reply #7

LANTERN — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:45:15 GMT

My pick3 studies tell me, that they might not need the computers to manipulate the results, that they might have been doing this all along, it will just make it easier and better for them to do it with the computers, less trouble, you know.But again, they will do what ever they want, any time they want, no matter what.Who is going to stop them?MY self imposed job is to crack their games and I am doing my best and so far my best is very good.

Reply #6

FUJITA — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:36:30 GMT

The state lotteries on Pick 3 already hold a 50 percent house edge. This switching to computer generated numbers is sick. What are they reallly hiding!!!!!! They are bound and determined to totally control the game. Personally if they all go that way I hope nobody plays and they all pack up and go home. People like to see the balls turn, it adds to the suspense of winning and it seems honest. State lotteries who are going to computer numbers I hope this comes back to bite you in the hind end. Ho... [ More ]

Reply #5

lottoarchitect — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:24:19 GMT

I voted for no too. In both cases they can manipulate the result. Much easier on computer machines but the balls bouncing around is more entertaining and give you a feel that they cannot really control the outcome.

Reply #4

lottoscorp — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 19:14:57 GMT

I say yes.

Reply #3

bobby623 — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:28:52 GMT

I'm opposed to use of computers to pick winning numbers.Software can be manipulated, and probably would be in places where political demand for more profits is strong.One could expect those in control of the computer to vehemently deny that they are 'managing' winning numbers.Problem for the players is proving otherwise, which might not be possible without access to the software program. I'll take the bouncing balls.

Reply #2

Rick G — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:57:05 GMT

I voted no also. At least in the old numbers game it was based on the stock market's closing quote and that couldn't be be manipulated. Then the state got involved and now they want to not only generate our quick picks, but they want to select the numbers with that same system. Begs of dishonesty to me.This lowers the integrity of the game to instant tickets and when it comes to that, I'll stop playing.As we are seeing more and more today, our computers are very easily manipulated by third... [ More ]

Reply #1

NoLuckYet — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 17:51:52 GMT

pegleg, even when the Numbers are picked by balls, it is still manipulated..that is a fact. If it wasn't, there would be no Lottery

Computer or Natural(Ball based machines)?

JADELottery — Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:17:57 GMT

It's been a while since my last post here at the Lottery post, but this question caught my eye.