Power Trails ... For all to try..

Reply #43

Rick G — Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:49:02 GMT

Retxx. like I mentioned in a previous post, this is a pencil and paper method...no need for spreadsheets cuz we're only talking about 7 - 18 draws max.Never used a spreadsheet to get the wins....when you're dealing with 100 draws, then we're talking about spreadsheets!I like your idea of concentrating on the first 3 digits.... whoever designed MA betting system ought to be forced to lose every cent they are forcing others to lose....front 3, back 3 middle 2...what a crock!Four4me, I just never g... [ More ]

Reply #42

retxx — Wed, 28 Jul 2004 02:11:36 GMT

letting everyone know I am working with 10 past draws which is showing some promise here in Mass. I am only looking at first 3 for now. The cluster around d e g h looks interesting. Hope someone can do a spreadsheet. It would really narrow down picks on how many past draws work the best in different states.

Reply #41

NoLuckYet — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:40:04 GMT

I've been using it for Mass pick4 for a little more than a week, and I found out that with Power Trails one of the first coldest 5 numbers will show definitely. I also foud out that It catches many 2 digits (our Lottery pays for 1st two, middle 2 and last 2 inside the same 4 numbers!!). these 2 digits are usually from the first 7 coldest and from draws 30th down to 11th. I'm still testig and logging my results. It is a very helpful program if used besides your own skills of picking winners. Tha... [ More ]

Reply #40

four4me — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:17:05 GMT

Rick both ideas work linear and triangular. I find with triangular you can drop the top digit in favor of a luke warm number to get a hit. I had a heck of a time trying to post just the triangular part so i'lll send the link again.color=#800080Lotto-Logix Power Trails

Reply #39

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:50:14 GMT

Rick G reminds me of LuckyCat, I miss her.

Reply #38

LANTERN — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:48:52 GMT

As I suspected months ago, I found out that there are certain geometric pattern(s) digit relathionships, but have seen only a few of the most basic ones and not enough of anything to make use of this yet, as I am busy with other ways.Yes, there are levels of relationship between the history numbers and digits, but most of them are not very obvious.I have exploited a few, but it's a hard thing to do, hard and time consuming, requires a lot of thinking and meditating, most of my ideas come thru re... [ More ]

Reply #37

Rick G — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:56:49 GMT

Four4me, well put....a P-T program testing all approaches would be a great approach....unfortunately my computer skills are limited to turning it on or off, so maybe Mike, Bob or Todd (when he gets time) can help us here.I'm not familiar with the triangle approach...I listed my numbers linearly (sp?) from A to J....so we have another way to look at this conundrum.Good post, thanks

Reply #36

four4me — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:37:36 GMT

Rick g wrote; four4me, you may find that 10 draws work best in your state, but you're doing your homework and that's what catches wins! As Bob P suggests, 7 - 18 draws are the ones to study. Yep that's about right only in the last several months just using 10 picks didn't catch a true straight PT pick 4 hit yet close but no cigar. So when MikeK suggested he might make a workable program my eyes lit up with $$$$ signs. If he makes the program and we are able to input anywhere from say 5 to twent... [ More ]

Reply #35

MikeK — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:37:11 GMT

Four4me,Let's see what BobP thinks about it, I did PM him about it.Good Luck

Reply #34

NoLuckYet — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:13:32 GMT

I will . Thanks

Reply #33

Rick G — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:55:41 GMT

four4me, you may find that 10 draws work best in your state, but you're doing your homework and that's what catches wins! As Bob P suggests, 7 - 18 draws are the ones to study.noluckyet....my opinion, but the fourth digit (which would be the first digit in our pick 4) has less to do with the first 3 numbers than you might think. I've tested P-T with both draws concurrently and they are basically unrelated. In fact the hottest pick 3 digit is often one of the coldest pick 4 digits and vice ver... [ More ]

Reply #32

four4me — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 03:20:44 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by MikeK on July 26, 2004Rick,I DO like the twelve draws the best. My thought is that 12 digits per position gives a distibution of numbers and with 36 for all you will very likely have an odvious difference in the occurrence of each number.Now the weekly approach of seven draws for just frequency should be enough as well. It might be interesting to put the original version up as a workout. Should be a nice addition to WheelWorld's Workouts. I guess I have to check with... [ More ]

Reply #31

MikeK — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 03:10:59 GMT

Rick,I DO like the twelve draws the best. My thought is that 12 digits per position gives a distibution of numbers and with 36 for all you will very likely have an odvious difference in the occurrence of each number.Now the weekly approach of seven draws for just frequency should be enough as well. It might be interesting to put the original version up as a workout. Should be a nice addition to WheelWorld's Workouts. I guess I have to check with BobP on that.Good Luck

Reply #30

NoLuckYet — Tue, 27 Jul 2004 00:01:57 GMT

Rick G, I have a question: That last degit plays a role in deciding what the first 3 will be. It could come out as part of the first 3 numbers. so, it is impossible to leave it out of the calculations (if we only gonna play the first 3). What u think about that? Thanks.

Reply #29

NoLuckYet — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:20:39 GMT

Thanks Rick.g

Reply #28

Rick G — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:01:36 GMT

Retxx, yes, I found the most recent 12 draws to work best in IL. I also notice that Mike K. uses the 12 draw approach in his systems too which are good for all states. Numbers come in cycles so maybe that's the approximate cycle?Bob P's original P-T system used the last 7 draws, but he encourages experimentation to see what is working for you in your home game. Good luck in MA....I hate their betting scheme.Note to Noluck yet....don't stop your P-T's 10 draws past. Your most recent entry shou... [ More ]

Reply #27

NoLuckYet — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 03:15:57 GMT

BobP, Looking at the numbers alone w/out a mystic method makes my heart race and makes me feel daisy!! Just kidding. I like your point. Thanks.

Reply #26

BobP — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:54:06 GMT

You have to get used to looking at the numbers rather then looking for a mystic method that drops wins in your lap. The Power Trails works bacause it provides a consistant matrix to work within, it's your job to find a way of loading it that wins often enough to be worth playing. Lucky added plays to the original eight, this costs more and wins more often. There is always a balance point you want to find within your budget.It helps to have a plan such as an amount of money you need to win, so... [ More ]

Reply #25

retxx — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:11:59 GMT

rick thanks for the tips. did you mean when you use 12 past draws for your own state that it worked best there? thanks

Reply #24

Rick G — Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:37:57 GMT

Noluckyet....that's the exact way to play P-T...study how it works in your state and games! I've been playing this game for years and if I'm breaking even, then great

Reply #23

NoLuckYet — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:36:16 GMT

...and GOOD LUCK to you, too

Reply #22

NoLuckYet — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:35:39 GMT

Great Tips,Thanks. The way I do Power Trails is as follows: I wirite the numbers hit frequency starting with the 30th Draw going down to the 10th, and starting with the hottest. I then write them down below the Abc's. Example: A B C D I F G H I JHit Frequency (Draw 30) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9Hit Frequency (Draw 29) 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9and so on until the 10th Draw. this just makes it easier for me to see the number, it doesn't effect t... [ More ]

Reply #21

Rick G — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 23:17:56 GMT

Noluckyet, We were posting at the same time and I edited my last message with some further tips RE: Power-Trails, so when you get a chance check it out.Thanks and GOOD LUCK

Reply #20

NoLuckYet — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:55:18 GMT

Thanks you guys (especially Rick G and Four4me)for the valuable advice.. I missed yesterday's replies by Four4me. There is so many forums on this site that I keep loosing the ones im more interested in...Sorry, Four4me for not reading it on time but thanks anyways.

Reply #19

Rick G — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:38:18 GMT

Retxx,There ain't no such animal. I did power trails on paper not computer and it took less than five minutes a draw to upkeep and maybe a few extra minutes to check for patterns using pen and paper.I have a suggestion to you MA players using Power-Trails:Consider each ball machine as a different game (which it is) and bet on only the first three digits of your draw.Ignore the rest....it's a gimmick...most states have a three and four ball simultaneous game so that's seven consecutive digits dr... [ More ]

Reply #18

four4me — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 15:47:47 GMT

Sorry retxx for not understanding what you were referring to. Power Trails doesn't do doubles or triples you have to decide whether on not to add a double to your selection. If they are due I usually find a promising number to add to my power trail play slip.

Reply #17

retxx — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:52:20 GMT

P.S. Would someone have an excel spreadsheet for powertrails where we can input the last winning draws and it would convert the analysis and spit out the playable numbers for the day. That would be great is someone could write one. i am sure there is a player here that knows excel well enough to do it. Thanks

Reply #16

retxx — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:48:06 GMT

four4me, let me correct you. In Mass. we payoff on the first 3 so you can consider that as playing a pic 3. Now about my 2nd question as to doubles. Am i right? thanks

Reply #15

four4me — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 03:42:22 GMT

they don't have a three digit game in Mass.

Reply #14

tntea — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 03:29:41 GMT

I use past ten draws with my PowerTrails..

Reply #13

retxx — Sun, 25 Jul 2004 02:33:07 GMT

hi first let me tell noluckyet that tonights number was 4 5 6 and it was the c f j in the power trail. Unfortunately I did not have it as i played it on paper for the first time. My question is am I correct in saying that you cannot play double numbers using power trails and here in Mass. we get a lot of double numbers. By the way I used the last 7 days input. I can post sun numbers here for all to watch. Here they are; 9 0 4 -9 5 2 -0 4 3 -0 1 6 -5 1 7 -5 2 8 . Good luck to all

Reply #12

four4me — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 13:25:40 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by NoLuckYet on July 23, 2004Four4me, I would like to thank you for introducing me to this program. You won't believe how much time I spent studying it and applying it to our Pick4 here in Mass.. But, this Folks here, are just too tough to beat! I'm ready to quit!! :(I did some back tracking on power trails for Mass and although there were no straight hits there were a few close calls when the numbers were reversed/putting the coldest numbers first in the triangle. Brian... [ More ]

Reply #11

four4me — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 05:26:45 GMT

no luck yet you didn't even need power trails for last nights numbers.3057 hit on 7/192998 hit on 7/200975 hit on 7/215401 hit on 7/229945 hit on 7/23/04 remember we said that doubles hit almost every three days. Just looking at your last 4 days history gives clues to what to play many times 2 numbers will carry over to the next draw.Now i ain't gonna say i would have play the 9945 but i definitely would have written it down for consideration i wouldn't expect the same double 9's to hit so soon... [ More ]

Reply #10

four4me — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 04:30:42 GMT

NoLuckYet ready to give up after only a week. Just what do you expect from your experience with lottery playing. There is no magic bullet the principal works with power trails. You have to be patent enough to sit on it and work it until it pays off. nobody is hitting the lottery every day playing only 5 picks and those that do play heavy also loose heavy. Your state pays on 2/3and 4 numbers. on the pick 4 game. I know in my heart that the power trails will capture at least 2/3 numbers many days.... [ More ]

Reply #9

NoLuckYet — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 03:39:09 GMT

Four4me, I would like to thank you for introducing me to this program. You won't believe how much time I spent studying it and applying it to our Pick4 here in Mass.. But, this Folks here, are just too tough to beat! I'm ready to quit

Reply #8

tntea — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 03:11:19 GMT

https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/83254 I think this is the one.. sorry

Reply #7

tntea — Sat, 24 Jul 2004 03:08:38 GMT

Down Play on Power Trails is that it offers no chance for Doubles. Doubles kill you. As for having so many numbers.. members are teaching me how to use the sum/root... and the odd/even to narrow my choices. visit one of Lucky's old post to get some idea of how to pick the triangles..https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/83354 (hope that works)It hit tonight in TN.. it was CEI.. unfortunately I played CEF... Missed by one number and could have pocketed $1290 bucks.. I am closer now... Not a sor... [ More ]

Reply #6

four4me — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:26:22 GMT

NOLUCKYET i sent you PMs about this method and tried to explain if you use it in the order that it is laid out that you might or not get a hit this week this month this year. Do some back tracking with it and modify it to suit your purposes. However if you use it exactly as it's laid out sooner or later it will hit the law of averages is in play here. If a pick 4 is worth 5000 bucks and you play 5 pick 4 numbers in the order laid out every day you will hit someday. Hopefully within 1000 days. As... [ More ]

Reply #5

four4me — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:17:48 GMT

I use this power trail method for every pick 3 and 4 game. I have found that you have to learn how to read it it dosen't always hit in the abdg acfj etc. etc. for pick 4 games but if you familiarize with it and be willing to flip/flop and or criss/cross and reverse the numbers until they work for you. You just might get a hit.

Reply #4

NoLuckYet — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:15:15 GMT

Hi. I have been using it for the pick 3 and 4 here in Mass. It can get you something, I noticed but, not a lot. Maybe I'm using it wrong or maybe because I'm using it for the Thoughest State in the Country, I don't know exactly, but it seems good. I need more tips on it. anything will help. Thanks a lot

Reply #3

Rick G — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 23:02:11 GMT

Tntea, If we could hit straight once a week, I have a betting plan that could let us retire...just need the wins first!Will trade betting plan for winning plan...lolCouldn't find my betting plan on the computer, so I'm going to try to recreate it from memory:If you can achieve a straight on average once every 13 draws, which is a week's mid. and eve. draws in most states, then you increase your bet by one unit after a win. So if you are betting .50 straight and get a hit, you increase your stra... [ More ]

Reply #2

tntea — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:47:16 GMT

You are welcome.I went back in forum and read some posts back in March.. I noticed where Lucky had post using basically the same method as Power Trail but he was using inner triangles to get numbers.. I am going to check and see how that falls in the next couple days. I would love to hit once a week using any method.. lol wouldn't we all

Reply #1

Rick G — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:32:02 GMT

Tntea, thanks for posting Bob's Power Trail system. I'm sure it will help the newbies' get a start on the game.I haven't tried it yet, but if you do your corresponding-numbers study with Power Trails you could come up with even more winners.Thanks for the post

Power Trails ... For all to try..

tntea — Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:14:45 GMT

POWER TRAILS FOR PICK-3 4By Robert Perkis / Lotto-LogixAs published in LottoWorld Magazine.If you enjoy the excitement of playing Pick-3 andPick-4 Lottery Games, you will want to add PowerTrails to your bag of tricks. Experienced Lotteryplayers always play several systems at the sametime, playing most on paper and one in actuality.Victory shifts from system to system and one needsto know which is strengthening and which is fadingaway.The popularity of Pick-3 4 is due to thecomparatively low