Are There Any Real Lottery Secrets?

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CASH Only — Wed, 08 Sep 2004 20:49:23 GMT

I won't tell.

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trance — Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:34:59 GMT

Yes,And I keep it in secret.

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CASH Only — Fri, 20 Aug 2004 00:04:28 GMT

RJ:I still believe Ohio Lotto will be changed again soon...

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RJOh — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 18:57:59 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by dragon on August 06, 2004In a 6/49 game, if all 49 numbers were to be used up by drawings evenly, you would run out of numbers after only eight games. This would mean that all winning numbers in the next game were hits within the last eight games. If you suggest therefore picking your numbers out of the winning games of the most recent drawings, you are simply suggesting the obvious. It is like suggesting always picking your numbers out of the 49 provided, which is wh... [ More ]

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Teufellj — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:47:26 GMT

Hello again BobP,I will agree with Four4me and with your definitive reasoning but method and secret amount to the same thing; if I know something about a thing that we are both working on to this degree, I would have a secret from you and the secret would be the method involved. The secret may or may not be new but if you aren't aware of what I am doing and I achieve a victory but don't care to get involved with others...it's mine! It would be the same for you or anyone else. Lost applications... [ More ]

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four4me — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:25:58 GMT

Some people might have a secret formula that works for them. But method is a far better word. The same method might work some days and a different method work other days.

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BobP — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:06:15 GMT

Perhaps the word secret is the problem. What if tonight you read a post and learned something useful about the game you didn't realize previously, would that qualify as a secret revealed? Or is it more like dog scientists working on the door knob problem? BobP

Reply #23

Teufellj — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 05:07:39 GMT

Hello BobP,for the many years that have been concentrated studying the Ohio pick3, I can say with out a doubt, that there are no secrets. The way that I see this particular game and probably the rest too, is that it is so simple most of us look like schmucks doing the generic matricies and making a big wind over nothing. There could be something to heavier math to decipher how (10)(10)(10) single digits will fall in the pick 3 game through a statistical regimen. I do believe that for total rando... [ More ]

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dragon — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 04:43:14 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on August 05, 2004I have routines that I wrote in my personal software that do that. I've checked Ohio649 and 50% of the combinations in the last 300 drawings had numbers that all six had hit at least once in the 9-22 previous drawings. It can check the winning numbers of any group of numbers or an part of either group. I haven't found any trends that would help in picking numbers. It also shows that if you go back 5 drawings on average 3 of the six winning n... [ More ]

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dynodyno — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 04:17:09 GMT

OOPs!! also 20-11=9, that was in the next set of winning numbers as well

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dynodyno — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 04:03:51 GMT

Hi Rjoh, maybe I can help you here. Just to clarify, like I said I noticed this anomaly occurring quite frequently. I said 7-10 times, but your program may decifer it as less. I am just using random observations, but it has been enough to pique my interest. But here is something for you to see: The last Ontario 49 drawing winning numbers was 12, 21,22, 28, 29, 37 and 43. Say prior to this draw you were trying my method out. Well again using that draw as 0 and just counting up a little, at dr... [ More ]

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RJOh — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:30:55 GMT

I have routines that I wrote in my personal software that do that. I've checked Ohio649 and 50% of the combinations in the last 300 drawings had numbers that all six had hit at least once in the 9-22 previous drawings. It can check the winning numbers of any group of numbers or an part of either group. I haven't found any trends that would help in picking numbers. It also shows that if you go back 5 drawings on average 3 of the six winning numbers have hit in those 5 drawings and 3 have not.... [ More ]

Reply #18

dynodyno — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 03:02:42 GMT

Hi Rjoh, this is for canada 649 and ontario 649, but I have a feeling this is occurring with other 649 or similar draws. It varies, like I said sometimes it is on average as high as 8 out of 10 draws, though sometimes less. Also another thing I've noticed is that sometimes you can count up from the last draw and find numbers. For example consider the previous draw as draw # 1, the one before it as draw # 2, the one before it as draw #3 etc. Now go back and look at the last previous draw. Let... [ More ]

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rabbitfoot — Fri, 06 Aug 2004 01:48:08 GMT

It's just plain simple LUCK! Buy a ticket and hope it wins.

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RJOh — Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:35:32 GMT

dynodyno,In which lottery and drawings did you see this anomaly 7 of 10 times?RJOh

Reply #15

dynodyno — Thu, 05 Aug 2004 17:00:19 GMT

Here is an anomaly I've noticed happens I say about 7 out of 10 draws. this might help when you are trying to select numbers to play. Often 1,2 or sometimes 3 numbers from a previous draw when either added or subtracted from the bonus number of that draw show up in the next draw. So let's say on the previous draw the winning numbers were 1, 2, 4, 9, 25, 37 and bonus was 10. The next draw the numbers are something like 3 12(2 from previous draw +previous bonus# which was 10), 6,8, 15(25 from pr... [ More ]

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Benjamin'04 — Thu, 05 Aug 2004 13:03:55 GMT

RJOh has a pretty good poin

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RJOh — Mon, 02 Aug 2004 23:53:52 GMT

If anyone knows of any lottery secrets, they will remain secrets because they are keeping them to themselves.RJOh

Reply #12

RJOh — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:17:09 GMT

I know that all lotteries are suppose to be random, but they do have unique random dvents once in a while and that's what the system players are looking to exploit with their strategy. Lotteries run tests all the time to insure that no such dvent is happening. I doubt if anyone ever discovered such a unique reoccurring dvent that they would share their knowledge before they had a chance to exploit it fully and once it was exposed it would be eliminated.For example some years back, Ohio had a r... [ More ]

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LottoFan — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 17:20:51 GMT

I think one secret that impresses me is the fact that they (the Lottery Companies) know which numbers are being picked and quick-picked for each and every draw. For me, the secret lies in what they (the Lottery Companies) do with this information. Do they just file it away and ignore it? Do they use it to influence the winning numbers? Hmmmmmm. If I were running the Lottery, knowing what number combinations were already taken would be a big temptation for me to ensure that my Lott... [ More ]

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ryanm — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 16:29:55 GMT

There are no real lottery secrets; it's too random.

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lottogenie — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 16:19:44 GMT

im with jking on this one

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hypersoniq — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:20:04 GMT

here is a good primer for Bayesian inference...http://astrosun.tn.cornell.edu/staff/loredo/bayes/maxent00.pdfit requires adobe acrobat reader (freely available)Microsoft has done some work with bayesian networks... I couldn't follow the whitepaper though... I hate trudging through texts that make me feel like a complete idiot... In complex math, that's most of 'em

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takeitez — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 11:57:54 GMT

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JAP69 — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 11:12:27 GMT

Quote: O

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paul762 — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 09:17:25 GMT

I think that the lottery companies know the numbers before they are drawn, an example of this was a few years back when the bbc sacked a presenter because she said she had seen the numbers for that week and obviously they wouldnt want that to get out. of course it was all hushed up and most people never took any notice. btw. that was for the uk 6/49.

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Sedertree — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 07:44:17 GMT

I have done a lot of research into Bayesian Inference. I firmly believe that this is where our efforts should be focused. It is the basis for my new system btw, but even it cannot guarantee the winning number every single drawing. Over the course of a few days, perhaps.It's funny that the algorithms seem to produce a random set of numbers to play even though they follow a strict set of rules, and no its not a random number generator either. It is more, much more than that. It is all the bit... [ More ]

Reply #3

BobP — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 07:05:45 GMT

Personally I'd like to think there are still some ways of working the numbers no one has come up with yet, a way to take the measure of a particular lottery and tailor predictions to suit its nature. BobP

Reply #2

JKING — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:31:30 GMT

Perhaps looking at it the same way over and over (it's all been done before) isn't the answer. Maybe, just maybe, if it were looked at a new way........ That's my goal.

Reply #1

dragon — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:11:22 GMT

No. Resounding No.There are no secrets. It's about as simple as it gets. We're all just making it real complicated here. But that is our fault. It's quite simple. Random picks of large permutations.

Are There Any Real Lottery Secrets?

BobP — Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:07:26 GMT

Are there lottery secrets yet to be discovered or just things you haven't read about yet?Do you worry you will accidently give away the secret of winning lotteries before winning yourself?Do you worry someone else will learn the secret and the lotteries will be closed down?BobP