Lottosync test report

Reply #74

Raziel — Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:44:36 GMT

I'm just quite happy Guru (Marco) has been kind enough to share (sell) his program to us here at Lottery Post. I just hope he sticks with the release date of December before christmas as promised. If only the 1.8 engine is ready i'll be happy and download wheeling and other updates later as I use my own wheels.Here's to the early christmas release!Raziel

Reply #73

ocguy — Mon, 29 Nov 2004 19:11:49 GMT

Guru, I must admit I have had some luck using your program. For instance I used another software to choose my numbers and simultaneously i used lottosync numbers on seperate wheel. The results from lottosync produced far better results then the other system .Is your system using Chaos theory as small basis to your idea for lottosync? As it seems this new science would be in strong correlation to what your trying to do with Lottosync.ocguy

Reply #72

Vinicius — Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:17:56 GMT

Sry, but i dont think there is such a tool capable to predict 3 out of 6 in a 42 number game 40% of the time. In fact, i dont think you can do that 10% of the time.No one will ever beat the lottery odds withou being also luck.Luck is by all means, a must have, to win prizes.Dont take me wrong here, im in Brazil, playing a 6/60 lottery, (MegaSena) thats 1:52.000.000 chance to hit a jackpot.if lotto sync 1.8 can come up with something that would get me 6 winning numbers out of 30 predicted num... [ More ]

Reply #71

lottosyncman — Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:26:06 GMT

come on guru !!!!!! we are screaming here for the lottosync prediction engine pleeeease

Reply #70

spock — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 20:02:39 GMT

I agree.Most people on this forum i am sure can filter and wheel numbers..Picking the numbers is the name of the game.Just give us that we can do the rest.

Reply #69

LANTERN — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 08:13:39 GMT

MarcoYou don't have time to finish LottoSync 1.8 no time soon, so then please just let us have the part that predicts the numbers as soon as you can, maybe on december some time, protect that part and let us have it, we will be more than happy with that, very much later you can finish the rest of the program.Thank you.

Reply #68

Guru — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:47:13 GMT

Just want to let you know I haven't run away !For the moment I hardly have the time to even read some posts here, so I'll not be replying much the coming days. Have to work the entire weekend in my company also. sorry from a hard working guru

Reply #67

BobP — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 07:07:23 GMT

I tested the earlier versions enough to know I wasn't going to be putting any money on what it was predicting. At no time did it ever have more then three of the six winning numbers among the ten and a 3if3of6in10wheel wasn't going to return a profit even if the software had three correct every time.Now the new version is supposedly clicking off three number wins within a field of six numbers, which means a profit is possible even if it does this one time in three attempts. For lottery players... [ More ]

Reply #66

WILLSELL — Fri, 26 Nov 2004 05:45:09 GMT

Yes. The band keeps on playing and I still keep hearing the same old tunes. But knowone has said that they made money from earlier releases.HMMMMM

Reply #65

BobP — Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:13:49 GMT

Guru has to keep addressing the issue almost daily or people will say he's run off. Long as the band keeps playing we'll stay with the ship. BobP

Reply #64

LANTERN — Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:41:27 GMT

Maybe the filters and wheels should be for a future version and we could just get the prediction engine part of the program some time on december after of course you protect it first, it's O.K. if the bonus ball and the pick 3 don't work O.K. yet, maybe they will work better on some other future version, but it would be very nice to have soon the new 1.8 main prediction engine, even if nothing else.I will not use LottoSync untill I get a version that is good for cash4 and cash5 kind of lotto gam... [ More ]

Reply #63

jimbo61 — Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:39:04 GMT

I am new to this forum, and I saw this thread about Lottosync..Is this adaptable to Powerball, or any other 6 ball lottery

Reply #62

paul762 — Sun, 21 Nov 2004 14:10:50 GMT

Im passed caring about when its going to be released, but what I can say is that if it doesnt do any better than the other 3 versions , lets just say I wont be hanging around for 1.9, thats one thing that is guaranteed

Reply #61

Irvin — Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:56:02 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by WILLSELL on November 20, 2004 If you want quality results better to not pressure the Guru.I have seen some of my work the next day after burning the candle ...whew!BTWI have asked this question before ....has anyone made a nice chunk of change using earlier releases?Come on let's hear it.I have put my earlier version on hold but will be checking out the new version when it becomes available.

Reply #60

Irvin — Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:52:32 GMT

Take all the time you need Guru. Whats the point of releasing something early if your not 100% sure of.

Reply #59

WILLSELL — Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:46:30 GMT

If you want quality results better to not pressure the Guru.I have seen some of my work the next day after burning the candle ...whew!BTWI have asked this question before ....has anyone made a nice chunk of change using earlier releases?Come on let's hear it.

Reply #58

paul762 — Sat, 20 Nov 2004 10:10:42 GMT

lets hope were all still singing after its release

Reply #57

lottoshlep — Fri, 19 Nov 2004 16:59:05 GMT

D'oh ... the more time Guru has to spend answering the 'when' question the less time he has to work on the prog So let's all chill and sing along :On the first day of Xmas Guru gave to me ... the neeew Loootto Syyynch!! .....

Reply #56

lottosyncman — Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:09:17 GMT

no problem guru!its just too bad we couldnt get a sample of what you've got so far even if it doesnt work to its full capability i'am sure if there was some sortof zip file available it would keep us busy and occupied until you have finished the full version

Reply #55

vick — Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:48:17 GMT

yes we can understand, now get back to work

Reply #54

Guru — Fri, 19 Nov 2004 08:31:16 GMT

Vick and others:Yes, I'm aware that the release date is always being pushed further.It's something I can't do anything about. I don't earn my living from lottosync. It's a side project. I have to give my 3d company top priority otherwise there is no food on the shelf !The last months have been very very busy in my 3d company. I'm already working long hours to finish those jobs. Sometimes, when I come home I start working on lottosync at night, but I can't do that always because it's killing my h... [ More ]

Reply #53

paul762 — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 18:50:32 GMT

guru, its time for you to show what lottosync can or cant do, the ticket you posted impressed me , however you do apparently run a 3d animation company. sink or swim time

Reply #52

vick — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:19:32 GMT

the dates seem to be getting pushed further and further, 1st early nov, then mid nov, then 1st part of dec now 2nd part toward xmas..........................i think a basic upgrade from 1.7 to 1.8 including the improved engine and then later we can download the extra fluff like wheels and filters, which personally i don't use, ie filters and i use my own wheels, which i'm sure other people to but then again some others need those wheels etc etc

Reply #51

ocguy — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 15:55:32 GMT

Guru, I say hold off till you finish the program. Better to be finished then unfinished. Even in the sligtest.Ocguy

Reply #50

Guru — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 12:21:35 GMT

Lantern:Don't worry, it will allow you to copy lottosync to another machine.

Reply #49

LANTERN — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 09:10:33 GMT

The program's code of course should be very well protected, you said the the program is convoluted or twined and or scrambled so nobody can make follow it and or make any sense of it, and it should always be like that, but that is appart from unlock codes, even freeware programs should have very well protected code, to prdvent reverse enginering and or whatever else they might try to do to copy the code.

Reply #48

LANTERN — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:57:26 GMT

Protect it by all means, but please not in such a way that when your computer crashes and or you reformat the hard drive or get a new drive and or computer that you have to get a new unlock code, don't make it so everybody has different unlock codes and that every installation requires different unlock codes and or that they need to be registered online, I HATE SUCH PROGRAMS AND THAT KIND OF PROTECTION, a person should always be able to use the same unlock code for his program no matter how many... [ More ]

Reply #47

vick — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:41:47 GMT

so the engines ready, when can we get our hands on it Guru?protection? did 1.7 have any i'm not sure?ps. keep up the good work

Reply #46

Guru — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:36:05 GMT

The engine is as good as ready, except for situations with numbers repeating in the same draw like pick3 games.draws like 008 or 545 still pose some problems.Also the prediction for bonus numbers in big games still has a few problems. My tests indicate that the results for bonus numbers are somewhat biassed towards the less extreme values. I'm working on it.I believe it'll not take too much time to have these flaws solved. But...After that I'll still have to begin at the protection part of the p... [ More ]

Reply #45

Raziel — Thu, 18 Nov 2004 00:08:03 GMT

If the engine is ready I'll take that now and download the other stuff when it is done.Raziel

Reply #44

vick — Wed, 17 Nov 2004 17:42:32 GMT

i agree, the engine is most important and it seems to be ready or almost. The wheels and filter can be added on later . Remeber we need the most accurate prediction ie engine. Is the engine ready Guru

Reply #43

LANTERN — Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:47:04 GMT

Talking about wheeling and filters Guru. Have you seen a lottery program called Skorloto?It seems to have a lot of very very good filters, but is missing so-called QUANTUM filters, the problem is that it seems to be ONLY for 6/49 lotto games, if it was for ALL pick 4, pick 5 and pick 6 jackpot lottery games it would be very very good, it also has a super-nice graphical interface, no messing around, every thing is there for you to see and use, very nice program, too bad that it's limited to... [ More ]

Reply #42

paul762 — Wed, 17 Nov 2004 12:14:46 GMT

guru, there cant be that many bugs in it, as its been winning for you, hasnt it? anyway just number prediction engine will be fine as its the numbers that win, not the wheels.

Reply #41

Guru — Wed, 17 Nov 2004 08:02:40 GMT

I'm trying to get it finished before Christmas.It's going to be difficult, because we have a lot of 3d work at the moment and I still need to sleep a bit now and then, but I'll do my best.If I can't finish it completely in time, maybe I'll release it anyway, but without the wheeling and filter section included. Afterwards all owners of lottosync can download the entirely finished software when it's ready.(As long as the engine is completely bugfree, I'm able to release it... [ More ]

Reply #40

vanm — Tue, 16 Nov 2004 20:01:28 GMT

Guru, Hi, I am awaiting the release of ver 1.8. Is the release date still in Dec? I am holding off buying ver 1.7 and awaiting ver 1.8. TIA mike

Reply #39

LANTERN — Tue, 09 Nov 2004 15:58:08 GMT

Guru, Hi!$ We $ Want $ our $$$$ LottoSync $$$$.$$ Thank you much $$.

Reply #38

BobP — Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:18:45 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on November 03, 2004BobPIf your wheel works that way, then at least three of the numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 have to be in every other combination and the last combination 5 6 8 14 16 17 only contain two. Is that any extra line?RJOhRemember we're guaranteeing a 4# prize with the condition 3 of the winning numbers fall among the pointer group 01-06 and 3 winning numbers fall among group 07-20. It only requires 2 + 2 to make 4. If the condition isn't met by 01-04 and 07... [ More ]

Reply #37

RJOh — Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:57:31 GMT

BobPIf your wheel works that way, then at least three of the numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 have to be in every other combination and the last combination 5 6 8 14 16 17 only contain two. Is that any extra line?RJOh

Reply #36

BobP — Wed, 03 Nov 2004 05:03:49 GMT

Based on the concept Lotto Sync will be able to put three winning numbers among six and six winning numbers among 20, the following wheel guarantees a 4# prize when three winning numbers fall among the first six and three winning numbers fall among the remaining 7-20. Of course since the first line is 01-02-03-04-05-06 when four or more winning numbers fall among the first six, that will be the size of the prize. 1 2 3 4 5 6 1 2 3 4 5 7 1 2 3 4 5 13 1 2 3 4 5 17 1 2 3 4 6

Reply #35

RJOh — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:44:35 GMT

In OhioSuperLottoPlus a 649+game, a 4 of 6 pays $100, so if your hit% for 4 of 6 was 1%,you could play for free, anything better you would have a money maker. In states that pay $3 or more for 3 of 6, that 40% should be a money maker.RJOh

Reply #34

paul762 — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:57:53 GMT

guru, what is your % for 4 from 6 if 3 from 6 is 40

Reply #33

Guru — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 01:16:16 GMT

I am only buying one ticket

Reply #32

RJOh — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:53:03 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by lottosyncman on November 01, 2004i think guru s percentages are based on the program only picking 6 numbers now if the program could choose anywhere from 9to 12 potential numbers i think you would see the odds increase drasticallyIf that was true then he would only be buying one ticket per drawing if he's playing a 6/49 game.RJOh

Reply #31

lottosyncman — Tue, 02 Nov 2004 00:37:19 GMT

i think guru s percentages are based on the program only picking 6 numbers now if the program could choose anywhere from 9to 12 potential numbers i think you would see the odds increase drastically

Reply #30

RJOh — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:22:33 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on October 29, 2004The W.V. 6/25 game is 25 numbers with all the winning numbers among the 25 when you wheel them all, you might notice Lucky and I hit a 4# prize there almost every time with 25 to 50 lines. I'd move to W.V. if the prize was bigger. BobPW.Va. Cash25 game has odds of 1:177K and pays $25KOhioRollingCash5 game has odds of 1:575K and tonight will pay $362KIf no one wins tonight, that will increase.There are games that have decent odds for the payo... [ More ]

Reply #29

paul762 — Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:22:11 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on October 28, 2004Paul:Life not being like that has nothing to do with this !!If you just guess 6 numbers for a ticket, you can only say there is a 1 in 37 possibility that you match 3.A 1 in 37 chance is not gonna work here. You'll end up in the poor house very soon this way.On the other hand, when you hit 3 out of 6 almost 40% of the time with a single line. (as I do now for the Belgian lotto)At that point I think you can say there really is a good chance for... [ More ]

Reply #28

enterceptorr — Sat, 30 Oct 2004 01:30:46 GMT

thats ok guru

Reply #27

Guru — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 17:51:27 GMT

enterceptorr:just kidding.

Reply #26

Fenix — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:59:35 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by enterceptorr on October 29, 2004 what hes doing is finding a bracelet and stopping the running bracelet long enough to take a peek. i do this in my head but it hurts to do on paper. ive been doing this for a while now with p3 and p5 hes right the more numbers the worse it getssettle for 3 and 4 numbers of 5 each day and you dont have to workCan you explain this method a bit more

Reply #25

enterceptorr — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:50:22 GMT

guru,do you have anything to contribute except snide remarks?if you dont understand what we are talking about, then ask and one of us will explain. this forum is for us all to discuss lottery this is not retort.com

Reply #24

Guru — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:38:13 GMT

Enterceptorr:Are you also doing crack or cocaine ? Or maybe just alcohol ? You sound rather blurred.

Reply #23

enterceptorr — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:43:08 GMT

this is dangerous info. i predict fed agents coming to visit you soon. i have used this method and its true. i won 3 plays of 5 on one ticket not much money but it was 80 percent more than what it cost fot the ticket, im sorry 180 percent more. how do i obtain this version which is out now?i am tired of doing this by hand on paper. its irritating.what hes doing is finding a bracelet and stopping the running bracelet long enough to take a peek. i do this in my head but it hurts to do on paper.

Reply #22

Fenix — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:42:50 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by BobP on October 29, 2004 I agree 3 of 6 on a regular basis is nice and would make a great first line for any wheel generated by the program. I could look into group wheels where three of the winning numbers come from the first six and the remaining three winning numbers are found among the remaining 14 predicted.The only problem playing a larger field of numbers is when you don't have the winning numbers among them despite having played the larger field. When you do... [ More ]

Reply #21

BobP — Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:30:44 GMT

I agree 3 of 6 on a regular basis is nice and would make a great first line for any wheel generated by the program. I could look into group wheels where three of the winning numbers come from the first six and the remaining three winning numbers are found among the remaining 14 predicted.The only problem playing a larger field of numbers is when you don't have the winning numbers among them despite having played the larger field. When you do have all the winning numbers the right wheel can ofte... [ More ]

Reply #20

LANTERN — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 23:08:20 GMT

FenixI am neither making nor selling any programs at all.Of course, I am always trying to develop new pick 3 filters and filter systems and or methods, but I am not a computer programmer and I am not selling anything.I am just trying to give people some ideas.There already are some programs I think that might be able to do such a thing, but they might not be too good, it seems that maybe Guru's approach to prediction, very slow as it is, is also very much more accurate than those others.Predicti... [ More ]

Reply #19

Fenix — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:28:50 GMT

Suppose that program will have something like 1 or 2 trials when is released, so that players might check if it works for the local lottery game...

Reply #18

LANTERN — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:10:16 GMT

Now I have been thinking and or trying to think, numbers are just symbols of a decimal counting system, it just as well could had been a hexadecimal, octadecimal, binary, nanodecimal, quad, tetradecimal and or whatever counting system, the bottom line is that numbers are just symbols, but specific ones, if LottoSync and or other similar computer program was made as a symbolic object prediction program it then would be able to predict anything and not just decimal numbers in a given range and str... [ More ]

Reply #17

vick — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:32:36 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on October 28, 2004And here we go again. Another prediction matching 3 numbers from 6 predicted.LOTTOSYNC 1.8 PREDICTION FOR BELGIAN LOTTO(27 OKTOBER 2004)DRAW 02 13 21 28 38 40 BONUS 25 PRED 02 11 17 21 32 38 RANK ERROR = 21HITS = 3QUICK PICK TEST COMPARISON:QPICK 05 07 10 18 31 33 RANK ERROR = 44 HITS = 0QPICK 13 16 18 19 22 23 RANK ERROR = 59 HITS = 1QPICK 06 16 23 33 35 36 RANK ERROR = 21 HITS = 0... [ More ]

Reply #16

Guru — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:21:19 GMT

Ocguy:Yes, I'm fully aware that these pages aren't any good to serve as proof.I'm working hard to finish this Lottosync version for december this year.When LS 1.8 is released I will open a page on my website with scans of the actual tickets. + I will post the predictions here prior to the draw.But for now you'll have to take my word for it.

Reply #15

ocguy — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:45:36 GMT

As an owner of Lottosync I was impressed by the uniqueness of the software. But i have to say. When results are provided in plain text then how do we know its real? I mean if Lottosync's price was 25 bucks , ok , i could see sliding past with just text results but how about, and this as been said many times before, real tickets. Just make a new page on the server lottosync.com is on and place lotto syncs numbers (screen shot) with a copy of the actual ticket(s) scanned and placed right next to t... [ More ]

Reply #14

Guru — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:07:21 GMT

Paul:Life not being like that has nothing to do with this !!If you just guess 6 numbers for a ticket, you can only say there is a 1 in 37 possibility that you match 3.A 1 in 37 chance is not gonna work here. You'll end up in the poor house very soon this way.On the other hand, when you hit 3 out of 6 almost 40% of the time with a single line. (as I do now for the Belgian lotto)At that point I think you can say there really is a good chance for this to work.

Reply #13

paul762 — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 11:15:51 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on October 28, 2004It's even possible to win nice cash just by matching 3 numbers with Lottosync 1.8If you know there is a very good chance of hitting 3 from 6, just play that one line a hundred times.In Belgium matching 3 numbers pays 2.5 Euro while a single ticket costs 0.5 Euro.If I played this single predicted line a hundred times, I would have made 250 Euro out of 50 Euro !!!! With the 200 Euro net. win I could play 4 times more in the same way without risk.... [ More ]

Reply #12

Guru — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:13:33 GMT

Patience Paul:I want this whole thing running smoothly.

Reply #11

Guru — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:08:53 GMT

One thing at a time Lantern.More will come.For now, remember that it is better to have a prediction of 6 numbers matching 3 or 4 frequently than having a prediction of 20 numbers matching 5.Programs that need to predict 20 numbers to match just a few numbers indicate that they purely rely on luck !!!!The chance to hit a correct line from 20 numbers is very small. Even with very good filtering (unless you plan to play many many lines).This is why I'll try to prove how often Lottosync can match 3... [ More ]

Reply #10

paul762 — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:07:51 GMT

guru, if V1.8 is predicting like this now, why do we have to wait until december? are you trying to make the prediction engine even better? if not then why the wait? Ive got wheeling systems etc. coming out of my ears! I just need to pick the numbers

Reply #9

LANTERN — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:47:03 GMT

That is well and good, but now I would like to see how you do predicting 10 to 14 numbers or more and then wheel-filtering them.

Reply #8

Guru — Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:24:51 GMT

And here we go again. Another prediction matching 3 numbers from 6 predicted.LOTTOSYNC 1.8 PREDICTION FOR BELGIAN LOTTO(27 OKTOBER 2004)DRAW 02 13 21 28 38 40 BONUS 25 PRED 02 11 17 21 32 38 RANK ERROR = 21HITS = 3QUICK PICK TEST COMPARISON:QPICK 05 07 10 18 31 33 RANK ERROR = 44 HITS = 0QPICK 13 16 18 19 22 23 RANK ERROR = 59 HITS = 1QPICK 06 16 23 33 35 36 RANK ERROR = 21 HITS = 0QPICK 02 10 20 25 36 37 RANK ERROR = 1... [ More ]

Reply #7

Raziel — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:59:04 GMT

Absolutely cannot wait to get my hands on it. Raziel

Reply #6

hosni — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:42:30 GMT

Quote: Originally posted by Guru on October 21, 2004release is still planned for the first half of decemberA real nice Christmas present indeed. John in sunny and warm Escondido, California

Reply #5

paul762 — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:29:57 GMT

roll on 2005

Reply #4

Guru — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:48:44 GMT

vick:release is still planned for the first half of december

Reply #3

LANTERN — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:49:32 GMT

3 with 6 is great.It's very hard to wait for it, when it's so good.I also want to try the filtered wheels.Vick, Don't your fingers just itch for the LottoSync program?Do you feel it also

Reply #2

vick — Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:33:18 GMT

looks good Guru, what is the @ time frame for the 1.8 release? still early Dec? or

Reply #1

Guru — Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:00:32 GMT

LOTTOSYNC 1.8 PREDICTION FOR BELGIAN LOTTO(20 OKTOBER 2004)DRAW 03 16 17 18 27 38 BONUS 06 PRED 01 11 16 27 28 38 RANK ERROR = 18 HITS = 3QUICK PICK TEST COMPARISON:QPICK 05 07 10 18 31 33 RANK ERROR = 26 HITS = 1QPICK 13 16 18 19 22 23 RANK ERROR = 32 HITS = 2QPICK 06 16 23 33 35 36 RANK ERROR = 34 HITS = 1+BONUSQPICK 02 10 20 25 36 37 RANK ERROR = 27 HITS = 0QPICK 02 04 09 2... [ More ]

Lottosync test report

Guru — Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:59:11 GMT

Hi,Lottosync matched 3 numbers again with 6 predicted.Below is the lottosync prediction report for this draw like I'm going to post in the future prior to the draw as proof of the system's capabilities. (posts prior to draw will start when 1.8 is released)the first line is the draw, the second line is the prediction and the five lines after that are just random quick picks for performance comparison with the prediction engine. All five quick picks are generated on the fly without any manipulatio... [ More ]