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Last night I played a 16 number wheel (3/4) for the NJ Cash 5. The wheel contained 4 of the five numbers. Although the guarantee win is only one ticket with 3 numbers, it produced MUCH more than that. I wound up hitting 5 tickets with three numbers and 1 ticket with 4 numbers! About $500!! I used one of Gail Howards balanced wheels from her Wheel 5 book. Now I also have LottoPro 2005. This software also has a wheel with the same numbers and guarantee. When I checked the LottoPro wheel, there was only 1 win with three numbers! Has anyone else done a similar type of comparison? Needless to say, I'll be sticking with her balanced wheels, and attempt to pick my own numbers.
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All wheels are capable of winning above their guarantee. You would have to drop both wheels (in their raw pointer number fomat) into a wheel tester like CoverMaster and see what percentages of cover they provide. The Lotto Pro wheel may be just as good if the numbers entered into it were in another order as they dropped down onto the individual lines. That's not to say all wheels are equal, that's why we seek out unique wheels that provide better coverage for the same cost or only a tiny amount more for a bigger return. BobP
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Last night in the MD MegaMillions challenge I used a 15 lines 15 numbers CoverMaster wheel with a guarantee of 3if5 and only had 3 correct numbers and still matched 3 for a $7 win. With any wheel sometimes you can beat the guarantee if you are lucky, its all depends on how the numbers are placed in the wheel.
* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Yes, where the numbers are in the wheel will determine where and and how many times they are played in the wheel. I like Gail's wheels because of the fact that you can place what YOU think are your strongest probability numbers in the wheel where the numbers appears more often. I don't think you can make Lotto Pro do that (automatically anyway).
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I agree that it all depends where you place the number in the wheel. You can go from 1 to 10 in numerical order or drop them in any order (example 1-6-8-2-9-22-36-29-18-25). It all depends how you set it up. Been there...done that!
Personally, I like to go in numerical order...I can keep better track of it that way.
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I check out the number distribution of a wheel and put what I think are hot numbers in the higher distribution. One good thing about Gail's wheels it shows you pairs, trips distribution also. Does anyone know of another program which shows this?
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I agree that it all depends where you place the number in the wheel. You can go from 1 to 10 in numerical order or drop them in any order (example 1-6-8-2-9-22-36-29-18-25). It all depends how you set it up. Been there...done that!
Personally, I like to go in numerical order...I can keep better track of it that way.
Hey st.germain good to have you back. Happy New year my friend.
I also agree with you about this. Set up your wheels and look closely at them. Take note of how the numbers appear in each line. Are they all even or odd. do you have 3 even two odd or two odd three even. Are you using hot numbers or cold. Do you use a combination of either. Having made calculated observations from the way the history of the last 10 draws have came out. Hot numbers tend to stay hot while cold numbers tend to stay cold. And lastly check each line you decide to play and see if all 5 of those numbers ever hit before. Chances are if they have they won't again. 4 of the digits might but rarely will all 5 of the same digits hit 2/3 or more times in any given time frame.
When trying to win a pick 5 games using wheels I found that choosing digits that were in front of or behind the last digits that just hit is a good idea. Especially if that's the way the numbers come out in your states game.