A Sudbury city employee has launched a civil lawsuit claiming he deserves his share of a $13.6 million Canada Lotto 6/49 jackpot won by five co-workers last summer.
In court papers filed at the Sudbury courthouse, Raymond Chamberland, claims he deserved to share in the Lotto 6/49 prize claimed by five fellow employees from the city's waste management department when they claimed the huge lottery jackpot last July 9.
The five employees made national headlines when they claimed $2.7 million each. The five men named in the lawsuit are Ted Hreljac, Jeff McLaughlin, Marc Chartier, Richard St. Martin and Kevin Provincial.
When contacted by Northern Life Monday, Chamberland referred all inquiries to his lawyer Richard Guy.
In a statement of claim filed by Guy at the Sudbury courthouse, Chamberland says he's fully entitled to share in the lottery jackpot as he had joined a pool with the five winners and they had played Lotto 6/49 on a regular basis over several months.
The statement of claim states on the day before the winning numbers were drawn, Chamberland asked Provincial to "spot him" money needed to acquire tickets as part of the regular pool for July 9 draw and Provincial agreed to do just that.
No statement of defense has been filed by any of the five defendants. Four of the five are being represented by Sudbury lawyer Michael O'Hara, who refused to comment on the matter.
"I have no comment and I do not ever comment on any matter that is currently before the courts," said O'Hara. "I've informed all of my clients to not talk about the case as it remains before courts...once the matter is completed and a judicial decision has been made, then the people I represent would be free to talk about it at that time."
A statement of claim does not prove or disprove anything in a civil action, but simply outlines allegations by the claimant against defendants, which have not yet been proven in a court of law.
Chamberland's statement of claim says he had a phone conversation with some of the winners on the day they were traveling to Toronto to claim their prize and Provincial confirmed Chamberland was one of the winners.
Lawyers will return to court April 5 to speak to a motion presented by lawyers for the defendants who are asking the civil action be dismissed.
Guy said he is confident the lawsuit will proceed because Chamberland has a very strong case.
"I can't go into details, but it's our position my client is entitled to his share of the winnings," said Guy. "Defense counsel has presented a motion to strike the statement of claim, but I don't think they will be successful."
The vast majority of civil actions are either dismissed or settled out of court, but Guy said every case must be judged on its own merits.
"I think we could get this case before a judge within two years," he said. "Of course, there's always a chance of a settlement in any civil proceeding...only time will tell what happens."
Disputes over winning lottery prizes are becoming more and more commonplace in Canada.
Two years ago, a London couple made headlines when a woman sued her estranged husband after he waited a year to claim a $30 million prize in a 2003 national lottery.
Just a few weeks ago in Montreal, a 10-year-old girl found a coffee cup in a garbage bin. The cup offered a prize for a new SUV in a popular Tim Hortons promotion. Two other people say they have a claim to the prize.
It's unbelievable that the courts allow these claims... try to get a ticket from a retailer without cash in hand. Anyone can falsely claim they asked someone "To Spot" them the money.
In my office pool, if you don't pay up you are not in it, if your name doesn't appear on the copies I distrubute... again you are not in the pool.. I hate lazy people that want a free ride. Pay in advance if you are going to be out... don't buy that six pack of beer or cigarettes... save your money for the pool.
I hope they counter sue him for stupidity, and wasting their time.
Sickening I don't understand how the court system would allow for some money hungry just individual to try and come back with some story like that. I feel that if an individual do not put money up front for the lottery pool he should get nothing. It seems to me that people will not put the money up when asked to do so and then when you win here they come with both hands out. I feel the same as Iwannawin2 I just hate lazy people that want a free ride. If you don't pay you don't play simple as that. Judge please don't waste your time!
If by a slim chance that someone offered to throw in for him, see if the amount of tickets is divideable by 5 or 6...if they only bought enough for 5 then he's out of luck.
It's unbelievable that the courts allow these claims... try to get a ticket from a retailer without cash in hand. Anyone can falsely claim they asked someone "To Spot" them the money.
In my office pool, if you don't pay up you are not in it, if your name doesn't appear on the copies I distrubute... again you are not in the pool.. I hate lazy people that want a free ride. Pay in advance if you are going to be out... don't buy that six pack of beer or cigarettes... save your money for the pool.
I hope they counter sue him for stupidity, and wasting their time.
Is it unbelieveable that the courts would allow you to sue if you were hit by a drunk driver and there are no unbiased witnesses? Whether a claim has merit or not can only be determined by hearing whatever evidence there might be. Claiming that he had to have another pool member advance the money for his tickets suggests that he's telling the truth, or it suggests that he's clever enough to create that suggestion, because if he's lying he could have simply said that he chipped in his share. Whether or not a pool member agreed to advance the money is also a separate issue that only needs to be considered if it's determined that he really was a member of the pool.
The rules for a pool may say that if you don't pay up you're not in it, but even if it's in writing it may be meaningless if someone in the pool says they'll advance the money to somebody. FTM, any written agreement could be invalidated, either in whole or in part, by a court and should probably be considered unreliable unless it has been reviewed by an attorney.
As for checking to see how many tickets were bought, proving that the number is divisable by 6 but not by 5 would certainly be helpful to the claimant, but the opposite wouldn't necessarily help the defendants. Proving they bought 25 doesn't prove that they didn't also buy 5 more, and there's always the possibility that the person who agreed to advance the money figured they were unlikely to win and he was unlikely to be caught if he didn't buy the tickets but collected the money the following week.
I'm certainly skeptical that 5 people would all conspire to exclude somebody who was a legitimate member of the pool, but it's easy to believe that asking for an advance resulted in a legitimate disagreement. Maybe th eperson who agreed to advance the money forgot to chip in the extra when giving their money to the person who bought the tickets. If that's the case, is the pool liable, or is any dispute strictly between the borrower and the lender? That's a good example of why it's important for pools to have a well written agreement on the rules, and it's also one of the reasons that we have courts.
LOLOLOLOL......now, now, why am I NOT SURPRISED BY THIS ........LOLOLOLOLOLOL
oh and (btw) " fja" I too have been wondering about the CALI Lawsuit, and it's conclusion...what did happen?? what was decided either by the Judge or the Group themselves????
The rules for a pool may say that if you don't pay up you're not in it, but even if it's in writing it may be meaningless if someone in the pool says they'll advance the money to somebody. FTM, any written agreement could be invalidated, either in whole or in part, by a court and should probably be considered unreliable unless it has been reviewed by an attorney.
This point is very well made, and may I 'piggy-back ' to it...In addition to getting the 'pool agreement' reviewed by an Attorney, get it also Notarized by a licensed Notary Republic...seal and all.....
I'm certainly skeptical that 5 people would all conspire to exclude somebody who was a legitimate member of the pool, but it's easy to believe that asking for an advance resulted in a legitimate disagreement. Maybe th eperson who agreed to advance the money forgot to chip in the extra when giving their money to the person who bought the tickets. If that's the case, is the pool liable, or is any dispute strictly between the borrower and the lender? That's a good example of why it's important for pools to have a well written agreement on the rules, and it's also one of the reasons that we have courts. You point out another side to this that's very possible and plausible. However, as you know we the LP members have debated this issue in the CALI Kaiser case, and others, with respect to Office Pool arrangements/agreements. It's a hard judgment to make. However, keeping in mind the high cost of the legal fees, and court costs involved, is it worth it to fight the matter??? Or, simply settle the issue outside the Courts, avoiding all the legal ramifications??? Again, I suggest that all Office Pools with 'so-called iron-clad rules' get the Document Notarized and signed by a Licensed Notary Public.
That Notary Seal is respected in all Courts and Jurisdictions making any document it touches Binding and Legal. No matter who sues.
"Just a few weeks ago in Montreal, a 10-year-old girl found a coffee cup in a garbage bin. The cup offered a prize for a new SUV in a popular Tim Hortons promotion. Two other people say they have a claim to the prize."
I don't know if Canada has laws like "must be over 18 to participate" but the darn car belongs to this little girl! Even if her parents take it, they should pay her the retail value and invest it in a savings account in her name.Now suddenly trash has legal ownership? Grrrrr!
Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed. --Albert Einstein
Please review the duties of what a Notary is and isnt allowed to do. I think you'll be surprised at the fact that they are NOT allowed to give legal advise on its contents. They are to witness the signature and the authenticy of the person(s) presenting it for seal. They are not allowed to prepare legal documents but may witness the signature once prepared. They are not allowed to seal anything which bears witness against their notary oath and responsibilities as administered by their state of registry. The seal does not make it a binding document , it authenticates/ validates the existance of said document. The *verbage* of the document can still be argued in court. Take any last will and testament and see how it can still be argued in court despite a lawyers signature, two witness's,and the deceased.
As to stating that a "simple" docuement doesnt hold up in court is different. So long as the basic provisions are adhered too , it CAN be upheld. An IOU(promissory note) is a an example.
The Canadian laws may well be different so the issues as we know them may be mute.
If indeed the guy can prove that his one associate (who may or may not be a member of the winning Pool)did spot him for the lottery, he may well have a case. Again, evidence is the key in this suit. Its not a frivoulous lawsuit if he does have certain canadian laws in his favor.
That is why I do not play "work pools." But people need to realize that pools are a "pay per play" basis usually, you can't take short cuts. If you did not put your money into the draw, you are not in that draw. It is that simple. I don't care if you put in the draw 20 years, if your money is not in for the winning draw, you are out. It is that simple. If you did not play for 20 years, and just happen to play during the winning draw, congratulations on being a millionaire.
Casual groups can easily lead to problems. With the groups I join or organize, I insist on being very specific about who is in and who is out. I have just recently decided to always include everyone's name in the email announcing the purchase of tickets.
For a lot of the regular players, I do not base their membership in the group on whether they have paid or not. I just consider it as money oweing. That is simply my preference and it allows me to have more people in each group for each draw.
No Money, No Claim to any prize! That is the best reason as to why I do not "Ever" put money in a lottery pool of any kind! My money will never be tied up for 2 or 3 years, because of some other fool hearted selfish turkey just because they thought they deserve some of the winnings for some reason or another! You paid your money or you didn't, and if you didn't, TO BAD, there is no sharing the wealth with a non payer!
I've said this here before on several occasions: Never EVER play in a lottery pool unless EACH member of the pool has been given a photocopy of all the tickets bought BEFORE the drawing AND there is a list of all pool members playing that particular drawing.
I put money in for a member who did not give me his/her money ahead of time on occasion and not once did I get stiffed; if I did I would never do the same for him/her again and I would have documented that failure in the event we won down the road and said member tried to "sue".
As for this case, I do not know the specifics but as the person who selected and bought the numbers for the pool I used to run, I covered my butt before, during and after.
Thats so lame, that guy has no case he's mad because he gets no money, and 13.6 million is not alot of money 5 ways. and the guy in california has no case, just greedy people trying to get some money for nothing.
The usual tiresome co-worker squabbles. It will be nice if they say to him "You didn't pay that drawing, you admit you didn't pay, you're out, you get nothing, think about that the next time you blow your last dollar." But I guess it will depend on how many tickets the group got for that drawing with one person allegedly not included vs. what they usually get with him included. If they bought fewer for that drawing because he hadn't paid so they counted him out, then his request was either not made or rejected. I would think think it would be okay to say "No" to his request and that would be an adequate defense.
Please review the duties of what a Notary is and isnt allowed to do. I think you'll be surprised at the fact that they are NOT allowed to give legal advise on its contents. They are to witness the signature and the authenticy of the person(s) presenting it for seal. They are not allowed to prepare legal documents but may witness the signature once prepared. They are not allowed to seal anything which bears witness against their notary oath and responsibilities as administered by their state of registry. The seal does not make it a binding document , it authenticates/ validates the existance of said document. The *verbage* of the document can still be argued in court. Take any last will and testament and see how it can still be argued in court despite a lawyers signature, two witness's,and the deceased.
As to stating that a "simple" docuement doesnt hold up in court is different. So long as the basic provisions are adhered too , it CAN be upheld. An IOU(promissory note) is a an example.
The Canadian laws may well be different so the issues as we know them may be mute.
If indeed the guy can prove that his one associate (who may or may not be a member of the winning Pool)did spot him for the lottery, he may well have a case. Again, evidence is the key in this suit. Its not a frivoulous lawsuit if he does have certain canadian laws in his favor.
3/23/2006
Fst...I never said that Notary Publics could offer Legal Advice.
2nd..I never said they could prepare any Legal Documents.
3rd....I never said they could put their seal to Documents that would violate their Notary Oath or it's responsibilities.
4th....Contracts which have been Notarized, are binding and valid, and can be argued over in Court. They are respected in any Court of Law, but that's not to say cannot be challenged. Everything can be challenged, but the Notary Seal, because it Authenticates and Validates the Document w/the signatures on it, is respected in Court as a genuine understanding and agreement between athe parties that signed it.
4th...I said if the 'Office Pool' writes up an agreement among themselves, which includes the signatures of all the Parties of the Pool and has it Notarized, it is technically a 'binding contract' among it's members, which is respected in Court. This certainly is the case in the District and Maryland. However, anyone can argue against it in Court, as you can argue against any Contract. The Courts will still respect the Contract/Agreement.
Libra- Thanks for sharing your thoughts! My post was to educate . Part of my career position required that I take a course in contractual law so its not as cut and dry as it appears in your above post. I'll respect this difference of some facts and wish the gentleman from canada a fair and just hearing on his case :)
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
HAPPY FRIDAY........EVERYONE..3/24
I shared all this info because I have been a Notary Public in a previous employment position. I took the Notary Test and passed at 100%.
I realize, from your responses, that you are not quite understanding the 'context' of what I am saying, but it's alright. While all the information, I was sharing, is in point of fact accurate, the bottom line is gambling within an 'Office Pool' is in and of itself a 'gamble'. Sometimes it gets so complicated, one begins to wonder if it's worth it. I don't mind the 'pools' but prefer small, intimate groups of no more than 5 or 6 max.
<< If you did not put your money into the draw, you are not in that draw. It is that simple. I don't care if you put in the draw 20 years, if your money is not in for the winning draw, you are out. It is that simple. >>
If there's a dispute nothing is ever simple. If they were a regular player why weren't they in the winning draw? Was it because they were out sick or didn't have any cash that day, or was it because when they got out of a meeting at 3:00 the ticket buyer had already left early because they had a dentist appointment? If you're in a pool you should assume that if a regular member misses a drawing that results in a substantial win they will sue, and the pool member will have to defend the suit. The best way to do that is to make sure collections happen well ahead of time so that members won't be left out unless they want to be left out. If something goes wrong anyway the best defense will be a good offense in the form of a thorough agreement that anticipates any problems that are at all likely, and you should expect an assumption that a regular member is a participant until they agree to stop participating, or until they recieve advance notice that they are being dropped against their will. IMHO the best plan would use the same numbers each time reduce the possibiliy of disputes over ownership of a winning ticket. There would also be some sense to assigning each set of numbers to a pool member, so that a member failing to participate results in "their" numbers not being played. Even though each member would own a share of each ticket, the assignment could allow the pool to demonstrate that the pool didn't intend to buy that person's tickets for the draw. Of course the agreement should still include causes for non-participation. I don't think it's possible to guarantee that there won't be a dispute over a winner, but I'm sure the risk can be reduced dramatically from what many pools expose themselves to.
<< Contracts which have been Notarized, are binding and valid, and can be argued over in Court. They are respected in any Court of Law, but that's not to say cannot be challenged. Everything can be challenged, but the Notary Seal, because it Authenticates and Validates the Document w/the signatures on it >>
While a notary may be a lawyer, notaries are often secretaries or bank tellers, and their primary function is to act as an official and unbiased witness. Unless the jurisdiction allows non-lawyers to practice law a notary who isn't a lawyer has no authority to pass judgment on the validity of any legal document. As such they can hardly offer a valid opinion on whether or not an instrument is valid or binding on all parties. Even if they're a lawyer and there are no deficiencies with the instrument itself, notarizing the signature of one party does nothing to authenticate other parties. For the most part, the validity that a notarized document has is that a signature reading "John Doe" was really signed by John Doe. That should preclude an argument that John Doe isn't bound by the agreement because John Doe didn't sign it, but there are a variety of other reasons that the agreement may be invalid or not binding on all parties.
As for challenging the notary's seal, there is nothing magical about notaries or their seals that protect the seal from theft and forgery, or notaries from mistakes, bad judgement or deliberate fraud. The seal and signature of a notary can be challenged just as can other evidence or testimony.
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
HAPPY FRIDAY........EVERYONE..3/24
I shared all this info because I have been a Notary Public in a previous employment position. I took the Notary Test and passed at 100%.
I realize, from your responses, that you are not quite understanding the 'context' of what I am saying, but it's alright. While all the information, I was sharing, is in point of fact accurate, the bottom line is gambling within an 'Office Pool' is in and of itself a 'gamble'. Sometimes it gets so complicated, one begins to wonder if it's worth it. I don't mind the 'pools' but prefer small, intimate groups of no more than 5 or 6 max.
I believe you, Libra. And I understand the "context" of what you are saying. Thing is, I was not directly responding to you. If I were to directly respond to any comment, I would surely quote that comment.
I was commenting on particular issues brought up in this thread. More particularly, notary public and the court.
I comment not for the heck of it. I comment for basic, general information and accuracy. That is why I only touch matters I am very familiar with. I don't give full dissertation of a topic either. That's for another place and time and for a fee.
Now go out there and enjoy the sun. It's a beautiful day today. Have a good one and remember, we're in it to win that big one! Good Luck, my friend.
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
HAPPY FRIDAY........EVERYONE..3/24
I shared all this info because I have been a Notary Public in a previous employment position. I took the Notary Test and passed at 100%.
I realize, from your responses, that you are not quite understanding the 'context' of what I am saying, but it's alright. While all the information, I was sharing, is in point of fact accurate, the bottom line is gambling within an 'Office Pool' is in and of itself a 'gamble'. Sometimes it gets so complicated, one begins to wonder if it's worth it. I don't mind the 'pools' but prefer small, intimate groups of no more than 5 or 6 max.
I believe you, Libra. And I understand the "context" of what you are saying. Thing is, I was not directly responding to you. If I were to directly respond to any comment, I would surely quote that comment.
I was commenting on particular issues brought up in this thread. More particularly, notary public and the court.
I comment not for the heck of it. I comment for basic, general information and accuracy. That is why I only touch matters I am very familiar with. I don't give full dissertation of a topic either. That's for another place and time and for a fee.
Now go out there and enjoy the sun. It's a beautiful day today. Have a good one and remember, we're in it to win that big one! Good Luck, my friend.
HAPPY SATURDAY...."CSFB"....3/25/2006
THANK YOU.....
Now go out there and enjoy the sun. It's a beautiful day today. Have a good one and remember, we're in it to win that big one! Good Luck, my friend
that is a very very sweet thing to say, it put a on my face and I shall do as you request. And, may I reciprocate, the same to you, my friend.
lololololo.....no one, who still had use of reason or common sense would ever offer me a Secretarial Position....and unless I can take the 'money drawer' home at the end of the day, I wouldn't apply for a position as a Bank Teller.........
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HAPPY SUNDAY......3/26/2006
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HAPPY SUNDAY......3/26/2006
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
I like the Pizza Hut lunch buffets, but there are no Pizza Huts in Putnam County. There is a Pizza Hut in Brookfield/Danbury CT, but it doesn't have buffet. I recommend the one in Ridgefield, CT.
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HAPPY SUNDAY......3/26/2006
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
I like the Pizza Hut lunch buffets, but there are no Pizza Huts in Putnam County. There is a Pizza Hut in Brookfield/Danbury CT, but it doesn't have buffet. I recommend the one in Ridgefield, CT.
HAPPY SUNDAY...."CASH N'CARRY"
Our pizza Hut does have a Salad Buffet attached to it, but unfortunately it's not an "all you can eat".....the salad simply comes w/the Pizza as part aof the Lunch or dinner if you like it.
And the PB keeps rising in the east, along w/the sun.......
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HAPPY SUNDAY......3/26/2006
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
I like the Pizza Hut lunch buffets, but there are no Pizza Huts in Putnam County. There is a Pizza Hut in Brookfield/Danbury CT, but it doesn't have buffet. I recommend the one in Ridgefield, CT.
HAPPY SUNDAY...."CASH N'CARRY"
Our pizza Hut does have a Salad Buffet attached to it, but unfortunately it's not an "all you can eat".....the salad simply comes w/the Pizza as part aof the Lunch or dinner if you like it.
And the PB keeps rising in the east, along w/the sun.......
The Pizza Hut in Danbury/Brookfield is the same. I would have to think there is a Pizza Hut near you in MD or DC with lunch buffet, since you live in a highly populated area.
BTW I plan to drive through MD and DC in mid-October. Are you a single woman? I'm 42. Send me a PM if you want.
If you participate in work pools you better be prepared to pay the price, better yet be prepared to NOT GET PAID. Unless you have valid confirmation every week of the numbers you played, and someone you truly trust. Usually everyone who plays in work pools already have some greedy motives in mind, otherwise they would not be trying to get more plays for a fraction of the price.
Well we see just how hefty of a price that greed can accumulate sooner or later. Most of the people who play are not concerned with the group winning,they are thinking about their cut, and hopefully getting even more than that. Millions probably makes you do strange things, and loyalties that were upheld for years can be dropped in a heartbeat if it means getting out of "the dump" you are stuck working in.
"Spotting" is simply a cop out for a cheap skate who does not want to cough up the money because he is 99% sure it will be lost anyway, so why not pay it later? The fact remains that his money was not put in the pot, so he does not collect for this draw. Assuming all information described so far is all factual.
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
when you come thru MD, bring a hudge wad of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.........lolololol
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
when you come thru MD, bring a hudge wad of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.........lolololol
I make NY minimum wage ($6.75) at my job. I would have to hit the lottery
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
when you come thru MD, bring a hudge wad of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.........lolololol
I make NY minimum wage ($6.75) at my job. I would have to hit the lottery
HAPPY SUNDAY.........CASH N'CARRY....4/2/2006
I would need to hit the Lottery just to live in NY......period.....how do you do it on $6.75 ??? Surely you are just joking......loloolololoollll
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
when you come thru MD, bring a hudge wad of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.........lolololol
I make NY minimum wage ($6.75) at my job. I would have to hit the lottery
HAPPY SUNDAY.........CASH N'CARRY....4/2/2006
I would need to hit the Lottery just to live in NY......period.....how do you do it on $6.75 ??? Surely you are just joking......loloolololoollll
Stay in Maryland/DC. The nation's capital may be computerized 'cept for Powerball, but you can almost walk to play it.
I have a lot of family in Manhattan, one of my Relatives used to be a Director for Lincoln Center....I was always amazed at how high living expenses are......
I haven't heard anything about the california group in awhile I wonder if they settled quietly?
It's unbelievable that the courts allow these claims... try to get a ticket from a retailer without cash in hand. Anyone can falsely claim they asked someone "To Spot" them the money.
In my office pool, if you don't pay up you are not in it, if your name doesn't appear on the copies I distrubute... again you are not in the pool.. I hate lazy people that want a free ride. Pay in advance if you are going to be out... don't buy that six pack of beer or cigarettes... save your money for the pool.
I hope they counter sue him for stupidity, and wasting their time.
Sickening I don't understand how the court system would allow for some money hungry just individual to try and come back with some story like that.
I feel that if an individual do not put money up front for the lottery pool he should get nothing.
It seems to me that people will not put the money up when asked to do so and then when you win here they come with both hands out.
I feel the same as Iwannawin2 I just hate lazy people that want a free ride.
If you don't pay you don't play simple as that.
Judge please don't waste your time!
If by a slim chance that someone offered to throw in for him, see if the amount of tickets is divideable by 5 or 6...if they only bought enough for 5 then he's out of luck.
It's unbelievable that the courts allow these claims... try to get a ticket from a retailer without cash in hand. Anyone can falsely claim they asked someone "To Spot" them the money.
In my office pool, if you don't pay up you are not in it, if your name doesn't appear on the copies I distrubute... again you are not in the pool.. I hate lazy people that want a free ride. Pay in advance if you are going to be out... don't buy that six pack of beer or cigarettes... save your money for the pool.
I hope they counter sue him for stupidity, and wasting their time.
Is it unbelieveable that the courts would allow you to sue if you were hit by a drunk driver and there are no unbiased witnesses? Whether a claim has merit or not can only be determined by hearing whatever evidence there might be. Claiming that he had to have another pool member advance the money for his tickets suggests that he's telling the truth, or it suggests that he's clever enough to create that suggestion, because if he's lying he could have simply said that he chipped in his share. Whether or not a pool member agreed to advance the money is also a separate issue that only needs to be considered if it's determined that he really was a member of the pool.
The rules for a pool may say that if you don't pay up you're not in it, but even if it's in writing it may be meaningless if someone in the pool says they'll advance the money to somebody. FTM, any written agreement could be invalidated, either in whole or in part, by a court and should probably be considered unreliable unless it has been reviewed by an attorney.
As for checking to see how many tickets were bought, proving that the number is divisable by 6 but not by 5 would certainly be helpful to the claimant, but the opposite wouldn't necessarily help the defendants. Proving they bought 25 doesn't prove that they didn't also buy 5 more, and there's always the possibility that the person who agreed to advance the money figured they were unlikely to win and he was unlikely to be caught if he didn't buy the tickets but collected the money the following week.
I'm certainly skeptical that 5 people would all conspire to exclude somebody who was a legitimate member of the pool, but it's easy to believe that asking for an advance resulted in a legitimate disagreement. Maybe th eperson who agreed to advance the money forgot to chip in the extra when giving their money to the person who bought the tickets. If that's the case, is the pool liable, or is any dispute strictly between the borrower and the lender? That's a good example of why it's important for pools to have a well written agreement on the rules, and it's also one of the reasons that we have courts.
HAPPY GREED DAY...EVERYONE...
LOLOLOLOL......now, now, why am I NOT SURPRISED BY THIS ........LOLOLOLOLOLOL
oh and (btw) " fja" I too have been wondering about the CALI Lawsuit, and it's conclusion...what did happen?? what was decided either by the Judge or the Group themselves????
HAPPY GREED DAY..."KY"......
The rules for a pool may say that if you don't pay up you're not in it, but even if it's in writing it may be meaningless if someone in the pool says they'll advance the money to somebody. FTM, any written agreement could be invalidated, either in whole or in part, by a court and should probably be considered unreliable unless it has been reviewed by an attorney.
This point is very well made, and may I 'piggy-back ' to it...In addition to getting the 'pool agreement' reviewed by an Attorney, get it also Notarized by a licensed Notary Republic...seal and all.....
I'm certainly skeptical that 5 people would all conspire to exclude somebody who was a legitimate member of the pool, but it's easy to believe that asking for an advance resulted in a legitimate disagreement. Maybe th eperson who agreed to advance the money forgot to chip in the extra when giving their money to the person who bought the tickets. If that's the case, is the pool liable, or is any dispute strictly between the borrower and the lender? That's a good example of why it's important for pools to have a well written agreement on the rules, and it's also one of the reasons that we have courts.
You point out another side to this that's very possible and plausible. However, as you know we the LP members have debated this issue in the CALI Kaiser case, and others, with respect to Office Pool arrangements/agreements. It's a hard judgment to make. However, keeping in mind the high cost of the legal fees, and court costs involved, is it worth it to fight the matter??? Or, simply settle the issue outside the Courts, avoiding all the legal ramifications??? Again, I suggest that all Office Pools with 'so-called iron-clad rules' get the Document Notarized and signed by a Licensed Notary Public.
That Notary Seal is respected in all Courts and Jurisdictions making any document it touches Binding and Legal. No matter who sues.
"Just a few weeks ago in Montreal, a 10-year-old girl found a coffee cup in a garbage bin. The cup offered a prize for a new SUV in a popular Tim Hortons promotion. Two other people say they have a claim to the prize."
I don't know if Canada has laws like "must be over 18 to participate" but the darn car belongs to this little girl! Even if her parents take it, they should pay her the retail value and invest it in a savings account in her name. Now suddenly trash has legal ownership? Grrrrr!
Three great forces rule the world: stupidity, fear and greed. --Albert Einstein
Please review the duties of what a Notary is and isnt allowed to do. I think you'll be surprised at the fact that they are NOT allowed to give legal advise on its contents. They are to witness the signature and the authenticy of the person(s) presenting it for seal. They are not allowed to prepare legal documents but may witness the signature once prepared. They are not allowed to seal anything which bears witness against their notary oath and responsibilities as administered by their state of registry. The seal does not make it a binding document , it authenticates/ validates the existance of said document. The *verbage* of the document can still be argued in court. Take any last will and testament and see how it can still be argued in court despite a lawyers signature, two witness's,and the deceased.
As to stating that a "simple" docuement doesnt hold up in court is different. So long as the basic provisions are adhered too , it CAN be upheld. An IOU(promissory note) is a an example.
The Canadian laws may well be different so the issues as we know them may be mute.
If indeed the guy can prove that his one associate (who may or may not be a member of the winning Pool)did spot him for the lottery, he may well have a case. Again, evidence is the key in this suit. Its not a frivoulous lawsuit if he does have certain canadian laws in his favor.
That is why I do not play "work pools." But people need to realize that pools are a "pay per play" basis usually, you can't take short cuts. If you did not put your money into the draw, you are not in that draw. It is that simple. I don't care if you put in the draw 20 years, if your money is not in for the winning draw, you are out. It is that simple. If you did not play for 20 years, and just happen to play during the winning draw, congratulations on being a millionaire.
Casual groups can easily lead to problems. With the groups I join or organize, I insist on being very specific about who is in and who is out. I have just recently decided to always include everyone's name in the email announcing the purchase of tickets.
For a lot of the regular players, I do not base their membership in the group on whether they have paid or not. I just consider it as money oweing. That is simply my preference and it allows me to have more people in each group for each draw.
No Money, No Claim to any prize! That is the best reason as to why I do not "Ever" put money in a lottery pool of any kind! My money will never be tied up for 2 or 3 years, because of some other fool hearted selfish turkey just because they thought they deserve some of the winnings for some reason or another! You paid your money or you didn't, and if you didn't, TO BAD, there is no sharing the wealth with a non payer!
I've said this here before on several occasions: Never EVER play in a lottery pool unless EACH member of the pool has been given a photocopy of all the tickets bought BEFORE the drawing AND there is a list of all pool members playing that particular drawing.
I put money in for a member who did not give me his/her money ahead of time on occasion and not once did I get stiffed; if I did I would never do the same for him/her again and I would have documented that failure in the event we won down the road and said member tried to "sue".
As for this case, I do not know the specifics but as the person who selected and bought the numbers for the pool I used to run, I covered my butt before, during and after.
Thats so lame, that guy has no case he's mad because he gets no money, and 13.6 million is not alot of money 5 ways. and the guy in california has no case, just greedy people trying to get some money for nothing.
The usual tiresome co-worker squabbles. It will be nice if they say to him "You didn't pay that drawing, you admit you didn't pay, you're out, you get nothing, think about that the next time you blow your last dollar." But I guess it will depend on how many tickets the group got for that drawing with one person allegedly not included vs. what they usually get with him included. If they bought fewer for that drawing because he hadn't paid so they counted him out, then his request was either not made or rejected. I would think think it would be okay to say "No" to his request and that would be an adequate defense.
Please review the duties of what a Notary is and isnt allowed to do. I think you'll be surprised at the fact that they are NOT allowed to give legal advise on its contents. They are to witness the signature and the authenticy of the person(s) presenting it for seal. They are not allowed to prepare legal documents but may witness the signature once prepared. They are not allowed to seal anything which bears witness against their notary oath and responsibilities as administered by their state of registry. The seal does not make it a binding document , it authenticates/ validates the existance of said document. The *verbage* of the document can still be argued in court. Take any last will and testament and see how it can still be argued in court despite a lawyers signature, two witness's,and the deceased.
As to stating that a "simple" docuement doesnt hold up in court is different. So long as the basic provisions are adhered too , it CAN be upheld. An IOU(promissory note) is a an example.
The Canadian laws may well be different so the issues as we know them may be mute.
If indeed the guy can prove that his one associate (who may or may not be a member of the winning Pool)did spot him for the lottery, he may well have a case. Again, evidence is the key in this suit. Its not a frivoulous lawsuit if he does have certain canadian laws in his favor.
Fst...I never said that Notary Publics could offer Legal Advice.
2nd..I never said they could prepare any Legal Documents.
3rd....I never said they could put their seal to Documents that would violate their Notary Oath or it's responsibilities.
4th....Contracts which have been Notarized, are binding and valid, and can be argued over in Court. They are respected in any Court of Law, but that's not to say cannot be challenged. Everything can be challenged, but the Notary Seal, because it Authenticates and Validates the Document w/the signatures on it, is respected in Court as a genuine understanding and agreement between athe parties that signed it.
4th...I said if the 'Office Pool' writes up an agreement among themselves, which includes the signatures of all the Parties of the Pool and has it Notarized, it is technically a 'binding contract' among it's members, which is respected in Court. This certainly is the case in the District and Maryland. However, anyone can argue against it in Court, as you can argue against any Contract. The Courts will still respect the Contract/Agreement.
Libra- Thanks for sharing your thoughts! My post was to educate . Part of my career position required that I take a course in contractual law so its not as cut and dry as it appears in your above post. I'll respect this difference of some facts and wish the gentleman from canada a fair and just hearing on his case :)
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
HAPPY FRIDAY........EVERYONE..3/24
I shared all this info because I have been a Notary Public in a previous employment position. I took the Notary Test and passed at 100%.
I realize, from your responses, that you are not quite understanding the 'context' of what I am saying, but it's alright. While all the information, I was sharing, is in point of fact accurate, the bottom line is gambling within an 'Office Pool' is in and of itself a 'gamble'. Sometimes it gets so complicated, one begins to wonder if it's worth it. I don't mind the 'pools' but prefer small, intimate groups of no more than 5 or 6 max.
sirbrad wrote:
<< If you did not put your money into the draw, you are not in that draw. It is that simple. I don't care if you put in the draw 20 years, if your money is not in for the winning draw, you are out. It is that simple. >>
If there's a dispute nothing is ever simple. If they were a regular player why weren't they in the winning draw? Was it because they were out sick or didn't have any cash that day, or was it because when they got out of a meeting at 3:00 the ticket buyer had already left early because they had a dentist appointment? If you're in a pool you should assume that if a regular member misses a drawing that results in a substantial win they will sue, and the pool member will have to defend the suit. The best way to do that is to make sure collections happen well ahead of time so that members won't be left out unless they want to be left out. If something goes wrong anyway the best defense will be a good offense in the form of a thorough agreement that anticipates any problems that are at all likely, and you should expect an assumption that a regular member is a participant until they agree to stop participating, or until they recieve advance notice that they are being dropped against their will. IMHO the best plan would use the same numbers each time reduce the possibiliy of disputes over ownership of a winning ticket. There would also be some sense to assigning each set of numbers to a pool member, so that a member failing to participate results in "their" numbers not being played. Even though each member would own a share of each ticket, the assignment could allow the pool to demonstrate that the pool didn't intend to buy that person's tickets for the draw. Of course the agreement should still include causes for non-participation. I don't think it's possible to guarantee that there won't be a dispute over a winner, but I'm sure the risk can be reduced dramatically from what many pools expose themselves to.
libra926 wrote:
<< Contracts which have been Notarized, are binding and valid, and can be argued over in Court. They are respected in any Court of Law, but that's not to say cannot be challenged. Everything can be challenged, but the Notary Seal, because it Authenticates and Validates the Document w/the signatures on it >>
While a notary may be a lawyer, notaries are often secretaries or bank tellers, and their primary function is to act as an official and unbiased witness. Unless the jurisdiction allows non-lawyers to practice law a notary who isn't a lawyer has no authority to pass judgment on the validity of any legal document. As such they can hardly offer a valid opinion on whether or not an instrument is valid or binding on all parties. Even if they're a lawyer and there are no deficiencies with the instrument itself, notarizing the signature of one party does nothing to authenticate other parties. For the most part, the validity that a notarized document has is that a signature reading "John Doe" was really signed by John Doe. That should preclude an argument that John Doe isn't bound by the agreement because John Doe didn't sign it, but there are a variety of other reasons that the agreement may be invalid or not binding on all parties.
As for challenging the notary's seal, there is nothing magical about notaries or their seals that protect the seal from theft and forgery, or notaries from mistakes, bad judgement or deliberate fraud. The seal and signature of a notary can be challenged just as can other evidence or testimony.
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
HAPPY FRIDAY........EVERYONE..3/24
I shared all this info because I have been a Notary Public in a previous employment position. I took the Notary Test and passed at 100%.
I realize, from your responses, that you are not quite understanding the 'context' of what I am saying, but it's alright. While all the information, I was sharing, is in point of fact accurate, the bottom line is gambling within an 'Office Pool' is in and of itself a 'gamble'. Sometimes it gets so complicated, one begins to wonder if it's worth it. I don't mind the 'pools' but prefer small, intimate groups of no more than 5 or 6 max.
I believe you, Libra. And I understand the "context" of what you are saying. Thing is, I was not directly responding to you. If I were to directly respond to any comment, I would surely quote that comment.
I was commenting on particular issues brought up in this thread. More particularly, notary public and the court.
I comment not for the heck of it. I comment for basic, general information and accuracy. That is why I only touch matters I am very familiar with. I don't give full dissertation of a topic either. That's for another place and time and for a fee.
Now go out there and enjoy the sun. It's a beautiful day today. Have a good one and remember, we're in it to win that big one! Good Luck, my friend.
You are correct, GameGrl. The role of a notary public is only to verify that the signature/s on a document is/are those of the signatory/ies. Notarizing a document does not make it any more legal and binding than it was before it was notarized. An invalid document does not become valid just because it is notarized. A document does not have to be notarized in order to be valid or binding.
The determination of the validity of any document does not rest upon whether the document is notarized or not.
Simply put, the notary public acts as a public witness to the document he notarizes, and as such public witness, he has a written record of the signatures on the document.
As to whether a document is legal and binding, if there is any question on that issue, it is the court that decides AFTER due hearing. This is what due process is all about.
HAPPY FRIDAY........EVERYONE..3/24
I shared all this info because I have been a Notary Public in a previous employment position. I took the Notary Test and passed at 100%.
I realize, from your responses, that you are not quite understanding the 'context' of what I am saying, but it's alright. While all the information, I was sharing, is in point of fact accurate, the bottom line is gambling within an 'Office Pool' is in and of itself a 'gamble'. Sometimes it gets so complicated, one begins to wonder if it's worth it. I don't mind the 'pools' but prefer small, intimate groups of no more than 5 or 6 max.
I believe you, Libra. And I understand the "context" of what you are saying. Thing is, I was not directly responding to you. If I were to directly respond to any comment, I would surely quote that comment.
I was commenting on particular issues brought up in this thread. More particularly, notary public and the court.
I comment not for the heck of it. I comment for basic, general information and accuracy. That is why I only touch matters I am very familiar with. I don't give full dissertation of a topic either. That's for another place and time and for a fee.
Now go out there and enjoy the sun. It's a beautiful day today. Have a good one and remember, we're in it to win that big one! Good Luck, my friend.
HAPPY SATURDAY...."CSFB"....3/25/2006
THANK YOU.....
Now go out there and enjoy the sun. It's a beautiful day today. Have a good one and remember, we're in it to win that big one! Good Luck, my friend
that is a very very sweet thing to say, it put a
on my face and I shall do as you request. And, may I reciprocate, the same to you, my friend.
HAPPY SATURDAY "KY"...3/25/2006
lololololo.....no one, who still had use of reason or common sense would ever offer me a Secretarial Position....and unless I can take the 'money drawer' home at the end of the day, I wouldn't apply for a position as a Bank Teller.........
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
I like the Pizza Hut lunch buffets, but there are no Pizza Huts in Putnam County. There is a Pizza Hut in Brookfield/Danbury CT, but it doesn't have buffet. I recommend the one in Ridgefield, CT.
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
I like the Pizza Hut lunch buffets, but there are no Pizza Huts in Putnam County. There is a Pizza Hut in Brookfield/Danbury CT, but it doesn't have buffet. I recommend the one in Ridgefield, CT.
HAPPY SUNDAY...."CASH N'CARRY"
Our pizza Hut does have a Salad Buffet attached to it, but unfortunately it's not an "all you can eat".....the salad simply comes w/the Pizza as part aof the Lunch or dinner if you like it.
And the PB keeps rising in the east, along w/the sun.......
Thank you Libra. Just came from lunch, and the next thing I did upon arrival is go to LotteryPost. How's that for a LotteryPost junkie?
Had chinese for lunch and my forturne cookie said: "you can't aim a duck to death." Well, I think all LP members know that. Even Dick Cheney. (Just joking)
Lucky numbers are: 34 25 11 27 48 30
HI "CSFB"......hope you had a great lunch...sounded pretty good, was it one of the "all you can eat "buffets?????......I like those the best.....Bamboo Restaurant, in Montgomery County is one of the best....they even have Maryland Blue Crabs on the Buffet and my friends laugh and tease me because it appears that I am one of the only customers who really knows what Maryland Hard Shell Crabs are and can appreciate them.....I usually devour 8-10 at a sitting easily.......
BTW.....your numbers from the Chinese Fortune cookie look similar to the Powerball Numbers from Saturday......did you see the numbers???....20,34,37,39,45, &PB 32......they missed 11..
I like the Pizza Hut lunch buffets, but there are no Pizza Huts in Putnam County. There is a Pizza Hut in Brookfield/Danbury CT, but it doesn't have buffet. I recommend the one in Ridgefield, CT.
HAPPY SUNDAY...."CASH N'CARRY"
Our pizza Hut does have a Salad Buffet attached to it, but unfortunately it's not an "all you can eat".....the salad simply comes w/the Pizza as part aof the Lunch or dinner if you like it.
And the PB keeps rising in the east, along w/the sun.......
The Pizza Hut in Danbury/Brookfield is the same. I would have to think there is a Pizza Hut near you in MD or DC with lunch buffet, since you live in a highly populated area.
BTW I plan to drive through MD and DC in mid-October. Are you a single woman? I'm 42. Send me a PM if you want.
If you participate in work pools you better be prepared to pay the price, better yet be prepared to NOT GET PAID. Unless you have valid confirmation every week of the numbers you played, and someone you truly trust. Usually everyone who plays in work pools already have some greedy motives in mind, otherwise they would not be trying to get more plays for a fraction of the price.
Well we see just how hefty of a price that greed can accumulate sooner or later. Most of the people who play are not concerned with the group winning,they are thinking about their cut, and hopefully getting even more than that. Millions probably makes you do strange things, and loyalties that were upheld for years can be dropped in a heartbeat if it means getting out of "the dump" you are stuck working in.
"Spotting" is simply a cop out for a cheap skate who does not want to cough up the money because he is 99% sure it will be lost anyway, so why not pay it later? The fact remains that his money was not put in the pot, so he does not collect for this draw. Assuming all information described so far is all factual.
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
these lawsuits are getting more and more common and ridiculous too.
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
I make NY minimum wage ($6.75) at my job. I would have to hit the lottery
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
I make NY minimum wage ($6.75) at my job. I would have to hit the lottery
HAPPY SUNDAY.........CASH N'CARRY....4/2/2006
I would need to hit the Lottery just to live in NY......period.....how do you do it on $6.75 ??? Surely you are just joking......loloolololoollll
Blue Crabs! Love it! Hope we'll meet one day and devour as many as we can. Take care Libra. BTW, those numbers were indeed close.
3/27/2006
well now, what do you know, I appear to have hit a nerve......
Libra:
I'll let you know when I'm coming through your area. It'll be October 14 or 16.
Happy Saturday......Cash n'Carry....4/1/2006
4,7,19,50,52....(15)
Now, look at those numbers......I would never have guessed them....and at $$$$117.00000000 obviously, no one else did either........lolololololollll....
I make NY minimum wage ($6.75) at my job. I would have to hit the lottery
HAPPY SUNDAY.........CASH N'CARRY....4/2/2006
I would need to hit the Lottery just to live in NY......period.....how do you do it on $6.75 ??? Surely you are just joking......loloolololoollll
Stay in Maryland/DC. The nation's capital may be computerized 'cept for Powerball, but you can almost walk to play it.
HI Cash n'Carry........4/7/2006
I have a lot of family in Manhattan, one of my Relatives used to be a Director for Lincoln Center....I was always amazed at how high living expenses are......