South Carolina State Rep. John Graham Altman said Friday that Fox News wants him to be a guest on "Your World with Neil Cavuto" on Monday to discuss his bill that would prohibit illegal aliens from collecting South Carolina lottery winnings.
The Charleston Republican filed his bill in February.
"It'll have a good chance if I can get on Fox. Everybody says it's a good idea," he said.
Cavuto's hour-long live show is billed as the No. 1 business news program on cable TV. It airs at 4 p.m. weekdays.
Altman said it is "downright absurd" that illegal aliens can collect state lottery winnings.
He said supporters of his legislation have contacted him from around the country.
Under his bill, lottery winners would have to show proof of legal U.S. residency.
He said constituents have complained to him that groups of illegal aliens who cash winning lottery tickets at convenience stores make it more difficult to pay for gas or snacks.
"I've seen it when I go in there to pay for gas," he said.
Altman said he noticed the problem recently at an area grocery store where there was a 20-deep line of illegal aliens cashing winning lottery tickets at the service counter.
"South Carolina is now part of the Mexican food chain," he said.
Altman was a guest on the Fox News primetime talk show"Hannity & Colmes" on Dec. 22, when he discussed his bill that would allow South Carolina to lock up illegal aliens.
Altman's legislation would create a felony trespass law, punishable by up to five years in prison, that authorizes the state to seize vehicles, property and assets of illegal aliens.
This is stupid to me. The lottery is designed to generate money for the state. On average, the illegals are losing money. If you dont like the illegals then why would you want to stop them? They are generating more money for the state. This could help offset some of the costs associated with them being here in the first place.
Sorry folks, but I live in NC, Mexico's most recent colony. Right or wrong, folks are just tired of it all and may or may not be making rational decisions. I have to support the guy. NC just proposed the same thing. We don't hate Mexicans, but good grief! There seems to be more of them than us down here. Just come legal, that's all.
I live in Texas, I know how you feel. The school next to my apartment is over 80% hispanic. I dont have a problem with hispanics (i wouldnt live where I do if i did). BUT, most of these children are illegal or their parents are. Most of the signs in my neighborhood are in spanish. I can see how people are fed up but I think the texas lottery would go out of business if it werent for mexicans (legal or not). I rarely see a person of another race buy a ticket.
hello, i agree with anniep2.i go to our local flea market,and it's flooded with them mexicans, selling anything you can think of.the one's that are buying, always has bought a goat or two.when you go in a grocery store,their buggies are full, they get someone in line to let them get in front, that makes me madder than heck.but what can i do,i can't fight all of them,so i have to be patience with them,they come to America to have a better life,so their children will have a better life to.just come legally.
who would want to live in mexico, i sure don't,the el presidente in mexico
don't care if the people leave.i wish there was some way to stop them all,but this is the land of opportunities,land of the free and home of the Brave...... GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!!!P.S. GAS PRICES STINK!!!
As I wrote when this issue was raised on another forum, I don't see how this can be enforced. To me it isn't an issue at all, because if someone is an illegal alien, he'll simply get somebody in his family to claim the prize. Very few people come here from other countries without having some family ties or friends he or she can stay with while establishing residence and looking for work. If suddenly all the illegals in Florida stopped buying tickets, I think there would be a very large drop in the jackpot amounts. (By the way, not all Latinos are from Mexico.) Living in Southwest Florida, it's been hard for me to look in the paper and see a job requirement that reads "must be bilingual." Immigrants from Italy or Russia never asked us to learn Italian or Russian. Now English is being taught as a "second" language. That's really my only gripe, since most of my Mexican neighbors are good family people who work hard and mind their own business.
this is really a crock............what is supposed to happen when legal guest to this country legally buy lottery tickets? are they supposed to forfeit their winnings because they aren't citizens.
That's the first thing I thought of also. The part where the legislator wants to ban all non-US citizens from claiming a prize is not good. He would be better to just say that illegal aliens can't claim prizes.
This is a very difficult subject. It is true that we need to find as many ways as possible to discourage illegal aliens, by making life difficult for them here. The easier it is for an illegal alien to live here, the more will want to come. It may sound un-humane to sympathetic people, but the fact is that they are lawbreakers, no matter what their reason for coming is.
On the other hand, the fact is that by buying lottery tickets, they are contributing directly to state programs, and are putting the money they earned illegally back into the system, rather than sending it back to Mexico. So for that reason, there is a very good case to be made that they should be allowed to play and win.
I think in the end it is a matter of principles. As a country, we need to decide if our morals or our desire for increased profits is the highest priority.
My vote is that our morals should take precidence, even if it means the lottery generates less revenue.
The problem I have with this is the same I have with the RICO laws and other confiscation laws. It starts off as "just illegal aliens" but if the state manages to deny a big jackpot winner just once a year year, that's a tremendous winfall for the state and the temptation will be to see what other category of person they can deny winnings to to keep profits high. Ex-felons, the state doesn't even allow them to vote, why should they be allowed to win the lottery? Et cetera. The RICO laws started out as a way of confiscating possessions from organized crime guys but soon the government was taking sailboats because they found a joint on it. If you get into the game of "Why should an illegal alien be allowed to win the lottery?" you are playing a dangerous game.
States are also shooting themselves in the foot with this. I'm sure illegal aliens, like many financially desperate real Americans, buy a disproportionate amount of lottery tickets because they feel trapped and need money. I'm sure many also work cash only jobs and pay little or nothing in taxes. The lottery is probably the only way for the state to capture some of this unpaid tax money from them. If it works out the way they want it to, illegals will stop spending and losing $10 a week on the lottery and now have 10 more dollars a week to send to mom in Brazil. He'll save $10, mom will get $10 more and the state will lose $10. Since very few players win big jackpots or even win back what they spend, the state is doing a service by discouraging players who can least afford it from playing. The main loser will be the state. Let's see if they stand on principle if sales decrease.
Do you mean buying a lottery ticket is the same as someone taking what they want after breaking into a store?
>If someone breaks into your store you don't say, "well, he got in, so he might as well take some stuff."
Unfortunately, the US has a rule that a baby born in the US to an illegal immigrant is a US citizen, and thus the baby's parents are also entitled to stay here and go on the dole and get free healthcare, welfare, schooling, etc. With a Republican president, Republican senate and Republican house, they could have passed a law changing this law if they wished just like they did the bankruptcy law. They haven't, so we must conclude the administration does not wish to change the law. So the present system must benefit somebody. I will not think the govt. is serious about the "illegal immigrant problem" unless they change it. Preventing illegal immigrants from winning the lottery is a drop in the bucket compared to this.
I heard S.C. may try to prevent illegal aliens from buying lottery tickets by requiring a I.D. check. Most stores don't card customers buying beer and cigarettes and they won't waste time carding customers for a lottery ticket? I've heard of legal citizens who sell drugs buying winning lottery tickets to laundry their drug money, so illegal aliens will be able to redeem their lottery tickets. I don't see such a law being of much value except for making a political statement.
I think it's unfair. It’s like going shopping, getting everything you want. Paid for it, then the store tells you "Thanks for shopping here but we just wanted your money the goods stay here." But on the other hand they brought it upon themselves by coming in illegally.
Also I reminder reading this story where a guy brought multi million dollar winning ticket using drug money and they only took like half of his winning instead of the whole thing. Both illegal acts but one keeps half while the other gets none.
I agree w/Tom. It's exactly like someone breaking into your store and you saying, "Well they got in, they might as well take something". This whole thing comes down to LEGAL vs ILLEGAL. Legal = get your win, Illegal = "oh well". And besides, good for them if anyone from another country wins IF THEY'RE LEGAL. But if they skirted the rules and then win what may have been my win, that makes me really mad. Just do it by the books! I'm an American, born, bred and loyal. I have to obey the law - they should too!
The law is the law. We wouldn't have illegal aliens if it were not for U.S. companies laughing all the way to the bank by employing this "next best thing to slave labor" workforce.
They say that illegals do jobs nobody wants... that's not true, they just do it for a salary that nobody wants... these companies aren't making the products cheaper, just fattening up their own pockets. Society works because of laws, illegal is illegal... I agree with the law.
furthermore, round 'em up and send 'em back. start punishing the companies who brought them here and start paying actual fair salaries for these "unwanted" jobs.
It's amazing to me that this is even an issue, If you are wanted for murder or have any kind of warrant out for you for illegal activity and you cashed in your lottery winning ticket you would be arrested on the spot and sent to jail; this should be the same for any person engaged in any illegal activity whether it be theft, murder, or entering in the U.S. illegally.
If you are wanted for murder or have any kind of warrant out for you for illegal activity and you cashed in your lottery winning ticket you would be arrested on the spot and sent to jail;
that is the one thing that KILLS me ... now I have never had a record nor been wanted, but why is it that we can buy a new car or buy a house or buy food to eat for that matter and noone is the wiser of your personal business BUT oh hell win the lotto and they need to know what color your damn underwear is!!!! I am sure that someone somewhere has a LEGAL explanation for it but its just seems to me that everything is so damn backwards when it comes to the "Lotto" .. but my thought on the topic is. I dont think if the person is not a legal resident of the usa then they should not be able to play. But as someone had said in another comment, they will still play and they will just find someone to claim it for them.
Thats where they get the term Illegal aliens. If your an "Illegal" alien - you are not suppose to be in the states - point blank..period... thats why you are an "Illegal" alien - why should you win big $$ from somewhere you are not legal to step foot in. What the hey - you might as well be any age to buy lotto tickets if thats the case..if it's good b/c they are losing $$ on losing tickets b/c they are putting $$ into the states - then why not have kids use their chore $$ to buy losing tickets - if that sounds bad for a child to lose $$ - then you must be racist for saying its good for aliens to lose their $$ b/c the $$ is going to the states either buyer......
Thats where they get the term Illegal aliens. If your an "Illegal" alien - you are not suppose to be in the states - point blank..period... thats why you are an "Illegal" alien - why should you win big $$ from somewhere you are not legal to step foot in. What the hey - you might as well be any age to buy lotto tickets if thats the case..if it's good b/c they are losing $$ on losing tickets b/c they are putting $$ into the states - then why not have kids use their chore $$ to buy losing tickets - if that sounds bad for a child to lose $$ - then you must be racist for saying its good for aliens to lose their $$ b/c the $$ is going to the states either buyer......
of course you dont want a youngin to be into gambling - but my point is...if it is "Illegal" to purchase a lotto ticket under the age of 18...how are "illegal"aliens purchasing them. I know you cant card every non american that walks in to a store to purchase lotto - but if he wins - he doesnt have to be paid........
The Charlotte Observer is running a series on this debate. I think it is one of the best read out there on the issue. I think if we all know how the government is playing us against each other for political reasons we will change our views or understand it a little better. We can stop hating Mexicans and see the big picture. The politicians and government made it so easy for them to be here. Billions and billions of dollars change hands. It grease the palms for businesses who want cheap labor. Employers do not have to report social security #s to the IRS if it is less than 11 and bogus SS# money goes into a "slush fund" That is just a couple of loop holes that was made for businesses.
The bogus social security section, I found most interesting. I had my mouth open in disbelief as I read. It is a picture and would not fit in my blog. But please people read the series.
We do want this issue to be a scapegoat for the next election. Yes they will arrest, deport but after the election, the problem will still be there and we would have been arguing about something that nothing was going to be done about it anyway.
Don't let the politicians pull your stings. Demand reform!
I hope this link works if not you can find it on The Charlotte Observer online edition, search immigration and click on full series and read what is most interesting to you.
Now there's an issue we can put some energy into. I remember waiting in 3 hours lines to get gas in the early 70's and cars being made with gas cap keys.
I wonder how he knew the 20-deep line cashing winning lottery tickets at the service counter was made up of illegal aliens.
If what he believed to be true is in fact true, then he would be able to tell winning SCRATCH tickets from losing ones ...without having scratched them and with 100% accuracy!
I have a positive idea on how we can protest the illegal alien issue on a grassroots level. The Hispanics are calling for a boycott of stores on May 1st and not going to work. I suggest that anyone against this demonstration go to the stores and BUY something on May 1st. At the checkout counter, tell the clerk that you are a customer who doesn't support the Hispanic action. The same day, go to your boss, shake his hand and thank him for the opportunity he has given you to work there. That should send a message, especially when the Hispanics are out marching.
Personally, I have no problem with illegal aliens buying tickets. Such a law would be unenforcable for winnings under $600.
This is stupid to me. The lottery is designed to generate money for the state. On average, the illegals are losing money. If you dont like the illegals then why would you want to stop them? They are generating more money for the state. This could help offset some of the costs associated with them being here in the first place.
I wonder how he knew the 20-deep line cashing winning lottery tickets at the service counter was made up of illegal aliens.
Sorry folks, but I live in NC, Mexico's most recent colony. Right or wrong, folks are just tired of it all and may or may not be making rational decisions. I have to support the guy. NC just proposed the same thing. We don't hate Mexicans, but good grief! There seems to be more of them than us down here. Just come legal, that's all.
I live in Texas, I know how you feel. The school next to my apartment is over 80% hispanic. I dont have a problem with hispanics (i wouldnt live where I do if i did). BUT, most of these children are illegal or their parents are. Most of the signs in my neighborhood are in spanish. I can see how people are fed up but I think the texas lottery would go out of business if it werent for mexicans (legal or not). I rarely see a person of another race buy a ticket.
hello, i agree with anniep2.i go to our local flea market,and it's flooded with them mexicans, selling anything you can think of.the one's that are buying, always has bought a goat or two.when you go in a grocery store,their buggies are full, they get someone in line to let them get in front, that makes me madder than heck.but what can i do,i can't fight all of them,so i have to be patience with them,they come to America to have a better life,so their children will have a better life to.just come legally.
who would want to live in mexico, i sure don't,the el presidente in mexico
don't care if the people leave.i wish there was some way to stop them all,but this is the land of opportunities,land of the free and home of the Brave...... GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!!!P.S. GAS PRICES STINK!!!
As I wrote when this issue was raised on another forum, I don't see how this can be enforced. To me it isn't an issue at all, because if someone is an illegal alien, he'll simply get somebody in his family to claim the prize. Very few people come here from other countries without having some family ties or friends he or she can stay with while establishing residence and looking for work. If suddenly all the illegals in Florida stopped buying tickets, I think there would be a very large drop in the jackpot amounts. (By the way, not all Latinos are from Mexico.) Living in Southwest Florida, it's been hard for me to look in the paper and see a job requirement that reads "must be bilingual." Immigrants from Italy or Russia never asked us to learn Italian or Russian. Now English is being taught as a "second" language. That's really my only gripe, since most of my Mexican neighbors are good family people who work hard and mind their own business.
this is really a crock............what is supposed to happen when legal guest to this country legally buy lottery tickets? are they supposed to forfeit their winnings because they aren't citizens.
DetroitJazzMan,
That's the first thing I thought of also. The part where the legislator wants to ban all non-US citizens from claiming a prize is not good. He would be better to just say that illegal aliens can't claim prizes.
This is a very difficult subject. It is true that we need to find as many ways as possible to discourage illegal aliens, by making life difficult for them here. The easier it is for an illegal alien to live here, the more will want to come. It may sound un-humane to sympathetic people, but the fact is that they are lawbreakers, no matter what their reason for coming is.
On the other hand, the fact is that by buying lottery tickets, they are contributing directly to state programs, and are putting the money they earned illegally back into the system, rather than sending it back to Mexico. So for that reason, there is a very good case to be made that they should be allowed to play and win.
I think in the end it is a matter of principles. As a country, we need to decide if our morals or our desire for increased profits is the highest priority.
My vote is that our morals should take precidence, even if it means the lottery generates less revenue.
The problem I have with this is the same I have with the RICO laws and other confiscation laws. It starts off as "just illegal aliens" but if the state manages to deny a big jackpot winner just once a year year, that's a tremendous winfall for the state and the temptation will be to see what other category of person they can deny winnings to to keep profits high. Ex-felons, the state doesn't even allow them to vote, why should they be allowed to win the lottery? Et cetera. The RICO laws started out as a way of confiscating possessions from organized crime guys but soon the government was taking sailboats because they found a joint on it. If you get into the game of "Why should an illegal alien be allowed to win the lottery?" you are playing a dangerous game.
States are also shooting themselves in the foot with this. I'm sure illegal aliens, like many financially desperate real Americans, buy a disproportionate amount of lottery tickets because they feel trapped and need money. I'm sure many also work cash only jobs and pay little or nothing in taxes. The lottery is probably the only way for the state to capture some of this unpaid tax money from them. If it works out the way they want it to, illegals will stop spending and losing $10 a week on the lottery and now have 10 more dollars a week to send to mom in Brazil. He'll save $10, mom will get $10 more and the state will lose $10. Since very few players win big jackpots or even win back what they spend, the state is doing a service by discouraging players who can least afford it from playing. The main loser will be the state. Let's see if they stand on principle if sales decrease.
They shouldn't be here in the first place.
If someone breaks into your store you don't say, "well, he got in, so he might as well take some stuff."
Do you mean buying a lottery ticket is the same as someone taking what they want after breaking into a store?
>If someone breaks into your store you don't say, "well, he got in, so he might as well take some stuff."
Unfortunately, the US has a rule that a baby born in the US to an illegal immigrant is a US citizen, and thus the baby's parents are also entitled to stay here and go on the dole and get free healthcare, welfare, schooling, etc. With a Republican president, Republican senate and Republican house, they could have passed a law changing this law if they wished just like they did the bankruptcy law. They haven't, so we must conclude the administration does not wish to change the law. So the present system must benefit somebody. I will not think the govt. is serious about the "illegal immigrant problem" unless they change it. Preventing illegal immigrants from winning the lottery is a drop in the bucket compared to this.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/ANCHORBABIES/AnchorBabiesAllanWall.html
I heard S.C. may try to prevent illegal aliens from buying lottery tickets by requiring a I.D. check. Most stores don't card customers buying beer and cigarettes and they won't waste time carding customers for a lottery ticket? I've heard of legal citizens who sell drugs buying winning lottery tickets to laundry their drug money, so illegal aliens will be able to redeem their lottery tickets. I don't see such a law being of much value except for making a political statement.
I would be the same as somebody breaking into your store and then buying things.
I think it's unfair. It’s like going shopping, getting everything you want. Paid for it, then the store tells you "Thanks for shopping here but we just wanted your money the goods stay here." But on the other hand they brought it upon themselves by coming in illegally.
Also I reminder reading this story where a guy brought multi million dollar winning ticket using drug money and they only took like half of his winning instead of the whole thing. Both illegal acts but one keeps half while the other gets none.I agree w/Tom. It's exactly like someone breaking into your store and you saying, "Well they got in, they might as well take something". This whole thing comes down to LEGAL vs ILLEGAL. Legal = get your win, Illegal = "oh well". And besides, good for them if anyone from another country wins IF THEY'RE LEGAL. But if they skirted the rules and then win what may have been my win, that makes me really mad. Just do it by the books! I'm an American, born, bred and loyal. I have to obey the law - they should too!
The law is the law. We wouldn't have illegal aliens if it were not for U.S. companies laughing all the way to the bank by employing this "next best thing to slave labor" workforce.
They say that illegals do jobs nobody wants... that's not true, they just do it for a salary that nobody wants... these companies aren't making the products cheaper, just fattening up their own pockets. Society works because of laws, illegal is illegal... I agree with the law.
furthermore, round 'em up and send 'em back. start punishing the companies who brought them here and start paying actual fair salaries for these "unwanted" jobs.
It's amazing to me that this is even an issue, If you are wanted for murder or have any kind of warrant out for you for illegal activity and you cashed in your lottery winning ticket you would be arrested on the spot and sent to jail; this should be the same for any person engaged in any illegal activity whether it be theft, murder, or entering in the U.S. illegally.
If you are wanted for murder or have any kind of warrant out for you for illegal activity and you cashed in your lottery winning ticket you would be arrested on the spot and sent to jail;
that is the one thing that KILLS me ... now I have never had a record nor been wanted, but why is it that we can buy a new car or buy a house or buy food to eat for that matter and noone is the wiser of your personal business BUT oh hell win the lotto and they need to know what color your damn underwear is!!!!
I am sure that someone somewhere has a LEGAL explanation for it but its just seems to me that everything is so damn backwards when it comes to the "Lotto" .. but my thought on the topic is. I dont think if the person is not a legal resident of the usa then they should not be able to play. But as someone had said in another comment, they will still play and they will just find someone to claim it for them. 
Thats where they get the term Illegal aliens. If your an "Illegal" alien - you are not suppose to be in the states - point blank..period... thats why you are an "Illegal" alien - why should you win big $$ from somewhere you are not legal to step foot in. What the hey - you might as well be any age to buy lotto tickets if thats the case..if it's good b/c they are losing $$ on losing tickets b/c they are putting $$ into the states - then why not have kids use their chore $$ to buy losing tickets - if that sounds bad for a child to lose $$ - then you must be racist for saying its good for aliens to lose their $$ b/c the $$ is going to the states either buyer......
Thats where they get the term Illegal aliens. If your an "Illegal" alien - you are not suppose to be in the states - point blank..period... thats why you are an "Illegal" alien - why should you win big $$ from somewhere you are not legal to step foot in. What the hey - you might as well be any age to buy lotto tickets if thats the case..if it's good b/c they are losing $$ on losing tickets b/c they are putting $$ into the states - then why not have kids use their chore $$ to buy losing tickets - if that sounds bad for a child to lose $$ - then you must be racist for saying its good for aliens to lose their $$ b/c the $$ is going to the states either buyer......
of course you dont want a youngin to be into gambling - but my point is...if it is "Illegal" to purchase a lotto ticket under the age of 18...how are "illegal"aliens purchasing them. I know you cant card every non american that walks in to a store to purchase lotto - but if he wins - he doesnt have to be paid........
The Charlotte Observer is running a series on this debate. I think it is one of the best read out there on the issue. I think if we all know how the government is playing us against each other for political reasons we will change our views or understand it a little better. We can stop hating Mexicans and see the big picture. The politicians and government made it so easy for them to be here. Billions and billions of dollars change hands. It grease the palms for businesses who want cheap labor. Employers do not have to report social security #s to the IRS if it is less than 11 and bogus SS# money goes into a "slush fund" That is just a couple of loop holes that was made for businesses.
http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/special_packages/immigration/
The bogus social security section, I found most interesting. I had my mouth open in disbelief as I read. It is a picture and would not fit in my blog. But please people read the series.
We do want this issue to be a scapegoat for the next election. Yes they will arrest, deport but after the election, the problem will still be there and we would have been arguing about something that nothing was going to be done about it anyway.
Don't let the politicians pull your stings. Demand reform!
I hope this link works if not you can find it on The Charlotte Observer online edition, search immigration and click on full series and read what is most interesting to you.
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I wonder how he knew the 20-deep line cashing winning lottery tickets at the service counter was made up of illegal aliens.
If what he believed to be true is in fact true, then he would be able to tell winning SCRATCH tickets from losing ones ...without having scratched them and with 100% accuracy!
I have a positive idea on how we can protest the illegal alien issue on a grassroots level. The Hispanics are calling for a boycott of stores on May 1st and not going to work. I suggest that anyone against this demonstration go to the stores and BUY something on May 1st. At the checkout counter, tell the clerk that you are a customer who doesn't support the Hispanic action. The same day, go to your boss, shake his hand and thank him for the opportunity he has given you to work there. That should send a message, especially when the Hispanics are out marching.
Orangeman
No prblemo witho Mexicano in Americano - just be here legaly. Can you imagine what they would do if you or I were ther illegally - think about it
May 1 has come and passed. Any more thoughts?