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do you think states that have computerized draws are rigged?

yes they are rigged

[ 17 ]

[ 53.1% ]

no they aren't rigged

[ 3 ]

[ 9.4% ]

certain ones might be rigged

[ 12 ]

[ 37.5% ]

Total valid votes

[ 32 ]

Discarded votes

[ 4 ]

LOTTOMIKE

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Sep 12, 2006, 7:58 am

do you think the states offering computerized draws are rigged?
JimmySand9

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Sep 12, 2006, 11:39 pm

You never know. That's the horrible thing about computerized drawings, there's no transparency. They probably are running legitimate games, but the possibility if them being crooked is always there.

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dvdiva

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Sep 13, 2006, 1:00 am

Unlike televised ball drawings which would need the help of several people, computer drawings only need one person. That is the big problem is that you never really know if it's honest or not. Considering the small savings I don't think any lottery should make the switch. It will only take one scandal before all computer dawn games come into question by the public at large.
LOTTOMIKE

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Sep 13, 2006, 8:02 am

i can honestly say i think indiana is rigged......
LOTTOMIKE

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Sep 13, 2006, 8:03 am

oregon has a pick 4 four times a day i like playing.i even hit it straight for a couple thousand earlier this year.it is computerized but i think its one of the few that are not rigged.....
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Sep 15, 2006, 8:07 pm

LOTTOMIKE, my vote is yes. Most RNG computerized draws make it manipulated and make more jackpot winners happen.
rdc137

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Sep 16, 2006, 6:11 pm

Last year there was a state assemblyman from Kent County (DE) that wanted to force the DE Lottery by law to go back to ball drawings. This was based on the fact that his/her believe that the reason for declining sales is because people believe the state lottery is rigged. He used the downfall of the Delaware Lotto game as a blatent example of where the believe comes from. Unfortunately, the bill was never voted on. One possible problem with it though is that it may have effectively killed any hope for a Keno game.
For those who are unaware, Lotto didn't have any jackpot winners for a very long time, allowing the "ALL CASH" jackpot to go from $100K to over $7 million. One person won it all in the last drawing.
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Sep 18, 2006, 3:00 pm

Probably not for most but without a national audit commission to spot check them ... it could sure happen !!!
LOTTOMIKE

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Sep 23, 2006, 6:53 am

Quote: Originally posted by GIDDYUP on Sep 18, 2006
Probably not for most but without a national audit commission to spot check them ... it could sure happen !!!

your idea certainly sounds good.a national audit commission would be great.no telling what goes on in a few select places behind the scenes.how i would love to be a fly on the wall inside the indiana lottery headquarters....
rdc137

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Sep 23, 2006, 11:16 am

Quote: Originally posted by LOTTOMIKE on Sep 23, 2006
your idea certainly sounds good.a national audit commission would be great.no telling what goes on in a few select places behind the scenes.how i would love to be a fly on the wall inside the indiana lottery headquarters....

I'm totally against such a proposal. Last thing we need is another federal agency. Best way to protest such things is with your dollar. Don't spend it and tell them why. If they don't listen, they're fools. Of course, demanding the Indiana government take action against the responsible parties would be best course, but let's face it, that's not gonna happen.
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Sep 24, 2006, 12:52 am

Quote: Originally posted by rdc137 on Sep 23, 2006
I'm totally against such a proposal. Last thing we need is another federal agency. Best way to protest such things is with your dollar. Don't spend it and tell them why. If they don't listen, they're fools. Of course, demanding the Indiana government take action against the responsible parties would be best course, but let's face it, that's not gonna happen.

True ...but look at the mess our lottery in North Carolina started with which now seems to reach all the way up to Jim Black,our Speaker of the house,and if the feds were involved I really think it would provide a certain number of safeguards that are not assured at the state level.
rdc137

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Sep 24, 2006, 1:02 am

Quote: Originally posted by GIDDYUP on Sep 24, 2006
True ...but look at the mess our lottery in North Carolina started with which now seems to reach all the way up to Jim Black,our Speaker of the house,and if the feds were involved I really think it would provide a certain number of safeguards that are not assured at the state level.

If the feds were the ones who "assured" us that games are legit, I doubt I'd buy another ticket.
The mess will merely be nationwide rather than select states.
GIDDYUP

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Sep 25, 2006, 3:16 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdc137 on Sep 24, 2006
If the feds were the ones who "assured" us that games are legit, I doubt I'd buy another ticket.
The mess will merely be nationwide rather than select states.

Well ...
How about a state commission made up of law enforcement officials who answer only to the Attorney General ?
rdc137

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Sep 25, 2006, 4:20 pm

Quote: Originally posted by GIDDYUP on Sep 25, 2006
Well ...
How about a state commission made up of law enforcement officials who answer only to the Attorney General ?

How about just switching back to ball machines and have the drawings in a public place, with right to inspect the machines and balls after the drawing?
GIDDYUP

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Sep 25, 2006, 5:34 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdc137 on Sep 25, 2006
How about just switching back to ball machines and have the drawings in a public place, with right to inspect the machines and balls after the drawing?

I think that is the answer!!!

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