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Findlay, Ohio
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Jan 30, 2007, 11:21 pm

The digit 2 has not been drawn in Position-Two (in Ohio) for 87 consecutive games now! This is at least a new second place longest-out record for a digit in Position-Two. The largest POS-2 skip on record for Ohio is 94 games. This digit should hit very, very soon...unless of course it keeps going and takes over the #1 spot and bumps that 94 down into second. Who knows, we'll have to wait and see. Until it hits, here are the current records for all three of the Ohio Pick 3 Positions:

	POS-1	POS-2	POS-3
1st	104	94	86
2nd	88	81	79
3rd	84	80	77
4th	77	78	75
5th	74	78	73
6th	73	77	73
7th	73	76	72
8th	73	74	72
9th	73	73	69
10th	71	69	68
11th	70	69	66
12th	69	68	66
13th	68	66	64
14th	66	66	64
15th	66	66	63

The all time longest skip in Ohio is 104 games. This occurred in Position-One (it was the digit 8). Skips this large are extremely rare...in fact, the combined probabilites of all skips from 78 games through infinity is less than .03%.

Here is a chart that shows the probability (as a decimal value) for a digits skip to end. The first skip on the list is "1". This is when a digit hits exactly one game after its last hit, which is the very next game...or a back-to-back repeat. The number of times that each skip occurred in each position for all of Ohio's 10,809 games is also listed. You'll notice how the frequency decreases with the probabilities....

Skip	POS-1	POS-2	POS-3	Probability
1	1,078	1,095	1,104	0.1000000000
2	952	984	947	0.0900000000
3	856	893	827	0.0810000000
4	823	818	795	0.0729000000
5	723	726	705	0.0656100000
6	641	610	742	0.0590490000
7	613	608	558	0.0531441000
8	515	529	515	0.0478296900
9	458	425	468	0.0430467210
10	419	393	407	0.0387420489
11	380	362	382	0.0348678440
12	331	290	350	0.0313810596
13	291	286	306	0.0282429536
14	279	292	277	0.0254186583
15	254	244	250	0.0228767925
16	212	226	199	0.0205891132
17	201	196	195	0.0185302019
18	167	178	152	0.0166771817
19	174	163	159	0.0150094635
20	138	151	131	0.0135085172
21	126	127	126	0.0121576655
22	109	132	125	0.0109418989
23	105	138	110	0.0098477090
24	106	95	90	0.0088629381
25	80	88	93	0.0079766443
26	83	64	88	0.0071789799
27	53	70	70	0.0064610819
28	67	73	69	0.0058149737
29	66	54	51	0.0052334763
30	50	63	47	0.0047101287
31	37	39	42	0.0042391158
32	36	38	38	0.0038152042
33	34	30	33	0.0034336838
34	30	29	49	0.0030903154
35	33	18	32	0.0027812839
36	37	30	26	0.0025031555
37	22	22	20	0.0022528400
38	27	20	21	0.0020275560
39	26	18	28	0.0018248004
40	23	19	19	0.0016423203
41	10	16	15	0.0014780883
42	17	14	19	0.0013302795
43	7	15	15	0.0011972515
44	17	12	16	0.0010775264
45	10	17	7	0.0009697737
46	10	6	10	0.0008727964
47	10	7	8	0.0007855167
48	6	8	10	0.0007069650
49	3	5	4	0.0006362685
50	6	5	3	0.0005726417
51	6	2	8	0.0005153775
52	2	7	3	0.0004638398
53	5	9	5	0.0004174558
54	3	9	5	0.0003757102
55	4	2	3	0.0003381392
56	1	3	3	0.0003043253
57	2	2	2	0.0002738927
58	4	4	4	0.0002465035
59	0	4	0	0.0002218531
60	4	3	1	0.0001996678
61	4	1	4	0.0001797010
62	4	1	1	0.0001617309
63	0	2	3	0.0001455578
64	2	1	2	0.0001310021
65	2	2	0	0.0001179018
66	2	4	2	0.0001061117
67	0	0	0	0.0000955005
68	1	1	1	0.0000859504
69	1	2	1	0.0000773554
70	1	0	0	0.0000696199
71	1	0	0	0.0000626579
72	0	0	2	0.0000563921
73	4	1	2	0.0000507529
74	1	1	0	0.0000456776
75	0	0	1	0.0000411098
76	0	1	0	0.0000369988
77	1	1	1	0.0000332990
78	0	2	0	0.0000299691
79	0	0	1	0.0000269722
80	0	1	0	0.0000242749
81	0	1	0	0.0000218475
82	0	0	0	0.0000196627
83	0	0	0	0.0000176964
84	1	0	0	0.0000159268
85	0	0	0	0.0000143341
86	0	0	1	0.0000129007
87	0	0	0	0.0000116106
88	1	0	0	0.0000104496
89	0	0	0	0.0000094046
90	0	0	0	0.0000084641
91	0	0	0	0.0000076177
92	0	0	0	0.0000068560
93	0	0	0	0.0000061704
94	0	1	0	0.0000055533
95	0	0	0	0.0000049980
96	0	0	0	0.0000044982
97	0	0	0	0.0000040484
98	0	0	0	0.0000036435
99	0	0	0	0.0000032792
100	0	0	0	0.0000029513
101	0	0	0	0.0000026561
102	0	0	0	0.0000023905
103	0	0	0	0.0000021515
104	1	0	0	0.0000019363

Its funny how odds and probability work. You can look at the digit 0 in position-one for example, and know that it hasn't been drawn for three consecutive games now....and all the while asking yourself: what are the "odds" that the zero will be the P1 digit in the very next game? Common sense says the odds are 1 in 10, .10 or 10%. But because it hasn't been drawn for three games in a row now, the probability to see it land on the fourth (the very next game) is only .0729 or 7.29%. This may sound a little strange, but the only time when you can look at the last occurrence of a digit and know that both the probability and the odds are equally 1 in 10, .10 or 10%, is when looking at the very last digit drawn and guessing for a back-to-back repeat. The probabilities and the frequencies of the skips listed above clearly show that.

~Probability=Odds in Motion~

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Jan 30, 2007, 11:45 pm

Thoth,
You bring up a good point about probabilities. Most people can't understand this, but there are two kinds of probabilities, continuous and instantaneous. The common term of skip/hit refers to a continuous probability that operates over a number of intervals like time, draw or index. The other is the probability in a single drawing, or the instantaneous probability that operates in a single interval of time, draw or index. Continuous probabilities refer to the probability of an outcome relative to the previous occurrences; just like the number 2 being out for 87 draws in P2. Instantaneous probability is the probability of an outcome relative to the individual draw itself, just like every number has an equal probability of occurrence in a single drawing or 1 out of 10.

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Jan 30, 2007, 11:56 pm

Is there any way to mix the two kinds of probabilities? I know that the probability to see the digit 2 having made it out 87+ games is quite rare (this rarity is, of course, before the first of those 87 trials started)...and that even though it is out 87 games now, that the real probability is stil .65132 over the next ten draws and .10 for each of the individual draws.

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Jan 30, 2007, 11:59 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Thoth on Jan 30, 2007
Is there any way to mix the two kinds of probabilities? I know that the probability to see the digit 2 having made it out 87+ games is quite rare (this rarity is, of course, before the first of those 87 trials started)...and that even though it is out 87 games now, that the real probability is stil .65132 over the next ten draws and .10 for each of the individual draws.

Yes there is, it's call Quantum Lottery Theory and I've been working on it for a few years.

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Jan 31, 2007, 12:09 am

Sounds interesting! Is this of your own invention or is there any information available on the subject?

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Jan 31, 2007, 12:15 am

A little of both, however I have not come across anything specific that mentions Quantum Lottery Theory. As the name suggest, there are some similarities to Quantum Mechanics. I've posted some of the equations and other related material here at LP.

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Feb 1, 2007, 12:00 am

Quote: Originally posted by JADELottery on Jan 31, 2007
A little of both, however I have not come across anything specific that mentions Quantum Lottery Theory. As the name suggest, there are some similarities to Quantum Mechanics. I've posted some of the equations and other related material here at LP.

Well that digit 2 hit in position 2 today....so the new second place record stands at 88

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Stack47

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Feb 1, 2007, 12:20 am

Quote: Originally posted by Thoth on Feb 1, 2007
Well that digit 2 hit in position 2 today....so the new second place record stands at 88

After looking at your excellent data, I played a hunch on 023 because its never been drawn.
When 123 hit and the "230" appeared in the Pick-4, it reminded me why I only play the Ohio Pick-3 once every five years.
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Feb 1, 2007, 10:51 am

Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Feb 1, 2007
After looking at your excellent data, I played a hunch on 023 because its never been drawn.
When 123 hit and the "230" appeared in the Pick-4, it reminded me why I only play the Ohio Pick-3 once every five years.

Its funny you should mention 023. I also played that number yesterday...but then again, I play that number almost every single drawing lol. Actually, 023 has been drawn 3 times in Ohio: 11-26-81, 9-23-83, 1-7-84.
The last hit came 9,532 games ago! Thats similar to seeing a single digit out in a specific position for 95 draws. I think shes gonna hit before the year is out.

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Feb 1, 2007, 12:07 pm

Great info, Thoth

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