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KY Floyd

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Apr 13, 2007, 2:23 pm

Quote: Originally posted by guesser on Apr 11, 2007
If a person just played birthdays, you are limiting yourself to an awful lot of numbers - from 1 to 31, and ignoring 32-55.

So? Regardless of how many numbers you use to make your combinations, if you only play 10 combinations you're limiting yourself to only 10 of the millions of possible combinations. There's only one winning combination, and it will never require more than 6 numbers no matter how many numbers are in the matrix.
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Apr 13, 2007, 5:22 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Greg on Apr 12, 2007
Actually Guru, you can read documentation on what or most of what I stated in William Atwood's book, The Lottery Solution.
1- Again, not the number of tickets but the number of combinations to be sold is controlled and has nothing to do with how many people are playing (although that most likely influences more combinations being released for a future drawing).
2- You can buy a ticket in NY and I can buy a ticket in CA and we can have the same combination.
3- The number of quickpicks sold and the number of combinations released (computer-generated) are two different things.
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First off, I didn't say anything about tickets, I said combinations. I don't care if it's in someone's book either. Of course you can buy a ticket in one state and one in another and have the same combination, that's why there's more than one winner sometimes. The number of combinations to be sold is not predetermined. The numbers of combinations sold is the number of combinations sold.

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Apr 14, 2007, 8:04 pm

You state "the number of combinations to be sold is controlled". This implies a pool of numbers is offered for sale, while another pool of numbers is held back. Does this mean that all of the lottery machines in the Mega Millions states are linked to a central computer and obtain a supply of numbers for each drawing?
Possibly a central computer could be linked OR each state's computer was programmed from a master computer to issue only a certain percentage of all possible combinations.
Which is it, a centralized pool of numbers or each lottery terminal is it's own RNG? As answers come forward on this subject it would be good to mention a source for this information.
Probably a centralized pool of numbers...
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Apr 14, 2007, 8:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by KY Floyd on Apr 13, 2007
The combinations that will be allowed are distributed by a small central computer. To keep that computer safe, and away from prying eyes, it is constanly being moved around on a special fleet of black helicopters. Greg only knows about it because the flights aren't random enough, and the helicopters have spent far too much time flying around his house.

How did YOU know I fly those helicoptors!!
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CA LotteryGuy

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Apr 14, 2007, 8:09 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Greg on Apr 14, 2007
You state "the number of combinations to be sold is controlled". This implies a pool of numbers is offered for sale, while another pool of numbers is held back. Does this mean that all of the lottery machines in the Mega Millions states are linked to a central computer and obtain a supply of numbers for each drawing?
Possibly a central computer could be linked OR each state's computer was programmed from a master computer to issue only a certain percentage of all possible combinations.
Which is it, a centralized pool of numbers or each lottery terminal is it's own RNG? As answers come forward on this subject it would be good to mention a source for this information.
Probably a centralized pool of numbers...

Greg...your answers are "Possibly", "could" and "Probably". Do you know for certain about the claims you made or are you just making stuff up?
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Apr 14, 2007, 8:12 pm

Of course you can buy a ticket in one state and one in another and have the same combination, that's why there's more than one winner sometimes.
You probably mean "more than one winner who has everything BUT the mega ball".
The number of combinations to be sold is not predetermined.
Actually, if you read Atwood's book, you'll see that it is. In addition, isn't it interesting no official from the MegaMillions "board" has said otherwise-- here or elsewhere?
The numbers of combinations sold is the number of combinations sold.
Very true! But that does not mean EVERY POSSIBLE combination IS issued/sold through the quickpick computer terminals!
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Apr 14, 2007, 8:53 pm

I don't get why the Lottery would try to limit the # of combinations, and I would love to see evidence of this other than "Atwood's book". Being I rarely play QP it would not matter anyway to me. Won 2 more today in 2 different States (no not played online) using my prg. Again I say that a good enough algorithm or program on certain games can beat QP but could it override the ratio enough to make profit. (Hello Backtesting!!!) If you rely on pure luck you will most likely only win 1/2 what you play over time unless you can win one Jackpot and then quit playing. If QP were the best way to play or if Lotteries forced us to play QP, I'd mostly quit playing and turn attention to other things. A simple program to generate a RNG combination could be written and then play it manually, it would be the same thing. I don't get that because they might block some combinations that makes QP better? I say again that those who put down using Systems do so because they wish they had one.
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Apr 14, 2007, 10:05 pm

Quote: Originally posted by CA LotteryGuy on Apr 14, 2007
Greg...your answers are "Possibly", "could" and "Probably". Do you know for certain about the claims you made or are you just making stuff up?

Did journalist Dorothy Kilgallen "know for certain" that Oswald did not act alone (if he acted at all) to kill JFK? (before she died)
Did those who disputed the Warren Commission "know for certain" when witnesses gave accounts that conflicted with the Commission's central conclusion(s)?
I respect very much your question, CA Lottery Guy. However, I am attempting to get LP readers to think and question what is, based on (incomplete) information we now have (ala Atwood's book, etc.)
Galileo was maligned and persecuted because he defied the commonly held belief that the earth was flat. Hardly anyone was willing to accept the science he asserted to contest "the common belief".
One role, among several, I have elected to play at LP is to get people to think, not necessarily "agree", mind you, but to think.
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Apr 14, 2007, 11:14 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Greg on Apr 14, 2007
Did journalist Dorothy Kilgallen "know for certain" that Oswald did not act alone (if he acted at all) to kill JFK? (before she died)
Did those who disputed the Warren Commission "know for certain" when witnesses gave accounts that conflicted with the Commission's central conclusion(s)?
I respect very much your question, CA Lottery Guy. However, I am attempting to get LP readers to think and question what is, based on (incomplete) information we now have (ala Atwood's book, etc.)
Galileo was maligned and persecuted because he defied the commonly held belief that the earth was flat. Hardly anyone was willing to accept the science he asserted to contest "the common belief".
One role, among several, I have elected to play at LP is to get people to think, not necessarily "agree", mind you, but to think.
"We know the truth, not only by reason, but also by the heart."-Blaise Pascal
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them".-Galileo
The beginning of wisdom is found in doubting; by doubting we come to the question, and by seeknig we may come upon the truth".-Pierre Abelard

I don't think there is a predetermined number of combo's to be sold through all terminals. I think each machine generates its own numbers and reports them back to a central computer along with the serial number and time stamp of each individual ticket. Do I know this for sure? Nope. But for some logical reason, that is probably how it is done.
I played 5 of my own numbers and then played 5 QP's following that and the numbers in the QP's were loaded with the numbers I picked on my own. So much to the point that some lines had 3 of my picked numbers and others had 2 or 1. I know I can't prove that theory but it was enough to make you go "hmm."

I got my fingers crossed ready to win!!!

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