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CurtisC

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Greetings:

Ibe CurtisC OhBeGreeNewbee.

Believe it: I just started playing the/any Lottery for the first time in five lifetimes, this year.

I have been looking for lottery software specifically designed for Powerball... It's HAS been interesting.

Has anyone heard of LottoWhiz, Cheatah, Lotto-007 (by Yang Baoshan / China), and Lotto Buster?

After running the trial versions, and emailing respective tech support addresses with questions, Cheatah is the only one who responded - to each message - thoroughly.

Are any of these recommended, as stand-alone programs.... Or, perhaps more concisely, are there any lottery software programs that actually provide a significant edge in the number-pickers game(s)?

Reading on LP/Forums I see a wealth of tech information and data - most of which unfortunately has me scratchin' what remains of head fuzz: never knew how deep system/data analysis could be - duly impressed.

Taking on a learning curve at this point in time is not particularly attractive: less time in-front than behind... just want to find a simple program to fiddle with and improve % on-odds, and lay-down $3 twice each week - Powerball.

I don't know enough to share very much.... And don't want to be on LP pesterin' ya-all with a gaggle of questions - not putting anything back in.

I see that warrior class memberships have access to great looking tools; and obviously, LP website and member Forum input offer a wealth of info. But again, takes me about half-a-minute before I fogged over on terms and defs, etc... I wasn't blessed with the math gene. Heck, I don't even know what wheeling is, yet - after reading a dozen articles.

I've been thinking about goin' with Premier for six months - see if I can get the hang of it.

Anyway, great website, people. I truly enjoy diggin' thru the Forums: well spoken.
LottoL

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Aug 2, 2008, 3:19 am

Quote: Originally posted by CurtisC on Aug 2, 2008
Greetings:

Ibe CurtisC OhBeGreeNewbee.

Believe it: I just started playing the/any Lottery for the first time in five lifetimes, this year.

I have been looking for lottery software specifically designed for Powerball... It's HAS been interesting.

Has anyone heard of LottoWhiz, Cheatah, Lotto-007 (by Yang Baoshan / China), and Lotto Buster?

After running the trial versions, and emailing respective tech support addresses with questions, Cheatah is the only one who responded - to each message - thoroughly.

Are any of these recommended, as stand-alone programs.... Or, perhaps more concisely, are there any lottery software programs that actually provide a significant edge in the number-pickers game(s)?

Reading on LP/Forums I see a wealth of tech information and data - most of which unfortunately has me scratchin' what remains of head fuzz: never knew how deep system/data analysis could be - duly impressed.

Taking on a learning curve at this point in time is not particularly attractive: less time in-front than behind... just want to find a simple program to fiddle with and improve % on-odds, and lay-down $3 twice each week - Powerball.

I don't know enough to share very much.... And don't want to be on LP pesterin' ya-all with a gaggle of questions - not putting anything back in.

I see that warrior class memberships have access to great looking tools; and obviously, LP website and member Forum input offer a wealth of info. But again, takes me about half-a-minute before I fogged over on terms and defs, etc... I wasn't blessed with the math gene. Heck, I don't even know what wheeling is, yet - after reading a dozen articles.

I've been thinking about goin' with Premier for six months - see if I can get the hang of it.

Anyway, great website, people. I truly enjoy diggin' thru the Forums: well spoken.

Expert Lotto is pretty interesting.

Gail Howard's guide book and software are interesting also.

Good Luck!
LottoL
CurtisC

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Aug 2, 2008, 4:17 am

Quote: Originally posted by LottoL on Aug 2, 2008
Expert Lotto is pretty interesting.

Gail Howard's guide book and software are interesting also.

Good Luck!
LottoL

Thank you for the info, LottoL. Truly appreciated.

One thing that has me stumped: Like other programs I've looked at, when running a search using the Yahoo engine, I get "Dangerous Download" flags where the applications are also available on shareware sites - Expert included.

The Yahoo engine now uses McAfee SearchScan to scan potentially harmful sites - wave your mouse cursor on "Warning: Dangerous Downloads" popup that says, "Please use caution when downloading anything from the site. Downloads may contain a virus or other undesirable software."

Seems to me tho, if a vendor is allowing their product to be associated with a site flagged with the McAfee warning, questions arise. Am I being too cautious, here?

I think I'll email Expert and see what they say. I've tried contacting other lottery vendors about the same issue, but for the most part: no reply - silence - ziltch.

I have heard of Gail Howard... guess I'd better by the book.

Thx again.
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Aug 2, 2008, 4:32 am

Quote: Originally posted by CurtisC on Aug 2, 2008
Thank you for the info, LottoL. Truly appreciated.

One thing that has me stumped: Like other programs I've looked at, when running a search using the Yahoo engine, I get "Dangerous Download" flags where the applications are also available on shareware sites - Expert included.

The Yahoo engine now uses McAfee SearchScan to scan potentially harmful sites - wave your mouse cursor on "Warning: Dangerous Downloads" popup that says, "Please use caution when downloading anything from the site. Downloads may contain a virus or other undesirable software."

Seems to me tho, if a vendor is allowing their product to be associated with a site flagged with the McAfee warning, questions arise. Am I being too cautious, here?

I think I'll email Expert and see what they say. I've tried contacting other lottery vendors about the same issue, but for the most part: no reply - silence - ziltch.

I have heard of Gail Howard... guess I'd better by the book.

Thx again.

I haven't had any problems with any of these sites.

Expert Lotto Software - http://www.expertlotto.com/en/home/index.htm

Gail Howard's Software - http://www.smartluck.com/

I am a registered owner of both of these software products
and have used both sites extensively with no problems.

Good Luck!
LottoL
CurtisC

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Aug 2, 2008, 6:25 am

Quote: Originally posted by LottoL on Aug 2, 2008
I haven't had any problems with any of these sites.

Expert Lotto Software - http://www.expertlotto.com/en/home/index.htm

Gail Howard's Software - http://www.smartluck.com/

I am a registered owner of both of these software products
and have used both sites extensively with no problems.

Good Luck!
LottoL

Yes, of course. With decent Phishing protection and a bit of caution, the vendor websites should be fine... they wouldn't stay in business very long if their site(s) were compromised. I took your lead and have been visiting both sites for an hour or so - ordered two books that Howard recommends within my parameters. Thx.

The curious thing, tho: a lot of the lottery sofware is also listed on shareware sites that McAfee sees as risky. Being in business taught a few lessons: the big one is market perception. I guess I'm saying, "If I ran the Zoo, I wouln't want my product associated with a compromised site. I'd probably be burning a phone call to the shareware site with questions.

I have a close friend who purchased two of Lotto-007 products - cost him $118... he says the trials ran okay, but everything tanked after Reg keys and udpates - virus warnings and Window Errors. Apparently, the vendor promised guaranteed replies to emails within 24 hours - never happened... and also guaranteed full refund on request - hasn't happen either, yet. I don't want to make the same mistakes when deciding on a program for my own modest needs.

It's more complex than I realized. I began purchasing onezee-twozee tickets for six months or so - three plays each draw - NOTHIN'.... That's how I found LP - looking for a wiser shot at it. The memory is getting clunky; I know, the kids don't want to hear about it, but it happens that way - better to suck it up and bear down on some reading material. Thx again.
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Aug 2, 2008, 7:05 am

Quote: Originally posted by CurtisC on Aug 2, 2008
Yes, of course. With decent Phishing protection and a bit of caution, the vendor websites should be fine... they wouldn't stay in business very long if their site(s) were compromised. I took your lead and have been visiting both sites for an hour or so - ordered two books that Howard recommends within my parameters. Thx.

The curious thing, tho: a lot of the lottery sofware is also listed on shareware sites that McAfee sees as risky. Being in business taught a few lessons: the big one is market perception. I guess I'm saying, "If I ran the Zoo, I wouln't want my product associated with a compromised site. I'd probably be burning a phone call to the shareware site with questions.

I have a close friend who purchased two of Lotto-007 products - cost him $118... he says the trials ran okay, but everything tanked after Reg keys and udpates - virus warnings and Window Errors. Apparently, the vendor promised guaranteed replies to emails within 24 hours - never happened... and also guaranteed full refund on request - hasn't happen either, yet. I don't want to make the same mistakes when deciding on a program for my own modest needs.

It's more complex than I realized. I began purchasing onezee-twozee tickets for six months or so - three plays each draw - NOTHIN'.... That's how I found LP - looking for a wiser shot at it. The memory is getting clunky; I know, the kids don't want to hear about it, but it happens that way - better to suck it up and bear down on some reading material. Thx again.

I'm not too big on shareware sites either. I purchased Expert Lotto after
someone here on the Lottery Post web site recommended it. You can do
a lot of stuff with this software. Has excellent statistics-if your a stat's
person. Has a lot of filters and a bunch of other features also. I just wish
it had a good non-statistical drawing based pattern analyzer. You do
need to download and install the Java environment before using expert lotto.
Free at www.java.com

Good Luck!
LottoL
CurtisC

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Aug 2, 2008, 1:25 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoL on Aug 2, 2008
I'm not too big on shareware sites either. I purchased Expert Lotto after
someone here on the Lottery Post web site recommended it. You can do
a lot of stuff with this software. Has excellent statistics-if your a stat's
person. Has a lot of filters and a bunch of other features also. I just wish
it had a good non-statistical drawing based pattern analyzer. You do
need to download and install the Java environment before using expert lotto.
Free at www.java.com

Good Luck!
LottoL

Thx for java tip.

What's a "... non-statistical drawing based pattern analyzer."?

I have Excel... have looking for a template to enter dates/draw#'s/and other data that I could compare variables and relationships - probability. Sorry, don't know all the tech terms; I know what I want to do, but haven't found an Excel template that has everything I'm looking for, yet - and, still in the Excel L-curve, too.

Life is good.
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Aug 2, 2008, 3:27 pm

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Aug 2, 2008, 5:06 pm

Quote: Originally posted by CurtisC on Aug 2, 2008
Thx for java tip.

What's a "... non-statistical drawing based pattern analyzer."?

I have Excel... have looking for a template to enter dates/draw#'s/and other data that I could compare variables and relationships - probability. Sorry, don't know all the tech terms; I know what I want to do, but haven't found an Excel template that has everything I'm looking for, yet - and, still in the Excel L-curve, too.

Life is good.

In MegaMillions, there are definite patterns that repeat themselves with
different numbers each time which gives the appearance of a random
draw - in my opinion. This involves how/why numbers advance from
one occurrance matrix to the next. It really has nothing to do with the
statistics that are so prevalent in lottery analysis software. Consequently,
the term "non-statistical drawing based pattern analyzer" is something I
use in my analysis of patterns. If you can develop a really good pattern
analyzer, you may be on your way to predicting the outcome of a lottery.

Of course, the big debate is weather or not the machine is generating
numbers or weather the numbers are known before the lottery draw
occurrs. If the numbers (some are all) are known, then a computer
program possibly could be generating the outcome and this could
probably be identified--which is the basis of my research. Some
members would consider this a fixed draw as can be viewed by this
great looking posting at https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/167260.

Good Luck!
LottoL
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Aug 2, 2008, 8:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by LottoL on Aug 2, 2008
In MegaMillions, there are definite patterns that repeat themselves with
different numbers each time which gives the appearance of a random
draw - in my opinion. This involves how/why numbers advance from
one occurrance matrix to the next. It really has nothing to do with the
statistics that are so prevalent in lottery analysis software. Consequently,
the term "non-statistical drawing based pattern analyzer" is something I
use in my analysis of patterns. If you can develop a really good pattern
analyzer, you may be on your way to predicting the outcome of a lottery.

Of course, the big debate is weather or not the machine is generating
numbers or weather the numbers are known before the lottery draw
occurrs. If the numbers (some are all) are known, then a computer
program possibly could be generating the outcome and this could
probably be identified--which is the basis of my research. Some
members would consider this a fixed draw as can be viewed by this
great looking posting at https://www.lotterypost.com/thread/167260.

Good Luck!
LottoL

Good hypothesis. However, it seems to me that developing a pattern analyzer (as you put it) that works well enough to predict an outcome would defy the very basis of reality upon which the physical laws of our universe rest upon. That is to say, one could conceivably use the same or similar algorithm to predict how a specific set of molecules are reacting in the core of a star 38 light-years away in real time. Tell me, do you know anything about quantum entanglement?
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Quote: Originally posted by Jimhowlett on Aug 2, 2008
Good hypothesis. However, it seems to me that developing a pattern analyzer (as you put it) that works well enough to predict an outcome would defy the very basis of reality upon which the physical laws of our universe rest upon. That is to say, one could conceivably use the same or similar algorithm to predict how a specific set of molecules are reacting in the core of a star 38 light-years away in real time. Tell me, do you know anything about quantum entanglement?

I don't know anything about quantum entanglement but I have seem some similarity among winning combinations patterns before the drawings that suggest groups of numbers that fit particular behavior patterns are more likely to be in the next winning combination. The problem is the group contain 60-70 percent of the regular number pool and only have all the winning numbers about 50 percent of the time. The group changes after every drawings so a new set of numbers and combinations have to be generated after each drawings. With a game like MegaMillions the number pool is reduced from 56 to 33-40 numbers which still covers a lot of combinations. Those conditions won't guarantee a winner but when they are true, your odds of winning are increase significantly. I've been looking at the megaballs for similar behavior patterns but haven't found any that are repeating enough to be significant.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
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Aug 2, 2008, 10:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jimhowlett on Aug 2, 2008
Good hypothesis. However, it seems to me that developing a pattern analyzer (as you put it) that works well enough to predict an outcome would defy the very basis of reality upon which the physical laws of our universe rest upon. That is to say, one could conceivably use the same or similar algorithm to predict how a specific set of molecules are reacting in the core of a star 38 light-years away in real time. Tell me, do you know anything about quantum entanglement?

All I am saying is if a computer program is generating results,
then that program can be recreated. Kind of like putting
together a puzzle from scractch, you just got to find the
relevant pieces and put them together.

LottoL
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Quote: Originally posted by LottoL on Aug 2, 2008
All I am saying is if a computer program is generating results,
then that program can be recreated. Kind of like putting
together a puzzle from scractch, you just got to find the
relevant pieces and put them together.

LottoL

LottoL, I was not trying to refute your thesis. However you do bring up a relevant point. You get countless websites advertising a "sure" way to bring fiscal results by way of the lottery. This brings up a good point: if you "crack the lottery code" would you publish it? Consider the implications: Even if it guarantees a lower payout (for the jackpot games) for a profit margin, and even further, guarantees a total jackpot, would you publish it? The answer is no, because it would be worth a multitude of jackpots.

Such an algorithm would be the lost city of Ciabola of our times. no?

But yes, should I figure such an algorithm out, nobody would know about it.
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Aug 2, 2008
I don't know anything about quantum entanglement but I have seem some similarity among winning combinations patterns before the drawings that suggest groups of numbers that fit particular behavior patterns are more likely to be in the next winning combination. The problem is the group contain 60-70 percent of the regular number pool and only have all the winning numbers about 50 percent of the time. The group changes after every drawings so a new set of numbers and combinations have to be generated after each drawings. With a game like MegaMillions the number pool is reduced from 56 to 33-40 numbers which still covers a lot of combinations. Those conditions won't guarantee a winner but when they are true, your odds of winning are increase significantly. I've been looking at the megaballs for similar behavior patterns but haven't found any that are repeating enough to be significant.

Fellow Buckeye,

I agree wholeheartedly and my whole system is based upon such an analysis.

The Megaballs are the X factor to winning the MegaMillions. The only advice with the MegaBalls I can offer is that the cold numbers (tracking back to six months) are the ones to play. Those that hit zero or one times.
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Aug 3, 2008, 3:42 am

Over the last few months I’ve run half-a-dozen lottery software trial versions — came to a place where private syntax includes referring to the respectable genre designer/engineer as: Quantum Mechanic.

If God really believed in numerology, the world would have come to an end by now — certainly been predicted, often enuff. Superstition has always been handy to conjurers, snake oil salesmen, and shamans. But everyone knows intuitively, there’s more to it than just that.

“History repeats…” — but never comes back around the exactly the same way… graphically, the cycle continuum is like a spiral: therein is the difference that serious players seek: “What's the difference — in numbers format.”

One program designer (Lotto-007) includes Prime Number frequencies in the calcs – no tellin’ how he’s bouncing ‘em around inside the black box – but if he’s tracking repeats up against dates, draw numbers, odds/evens, and whole numbers, etc., it would be interesting to have that info…. There are infinite angles from which to measure coincidence/relationship data. If weighted accurately, will the info give an edge on the Big Guess? It’s everyone’s guess, on that one.

Without doubt, some methods and means reveal cosmetically enhanced quackery; but after researching LP stat/data number-cruncher comments and other published work — checking out sincere craft and skill — and taking a page from Schrödinger, I’m bettin’ odds can be narrowed, perhaps beat. The only good faith left to the skeptic is: informed decisions.

I was reading an LP post yesterday; the guy was writing about code breaking and said (paraphrase), “Even if and when one of us cracks the/code, they’ll change the matrix, rendering the formula obsolete."

May I ask: What is “the Matrix”… and who are “they?” Perhaps dumb questions to old hands… I’ve been simply wondering what he was talking about.

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