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I usually run a lotto analysis on hot and cold numbers for the WV Cash 25. Do u think its best to run the analysis based on the last 25 draws or 50 draws? I can't seem to figure out which is best. Thanks!
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Quote: Originally posted by Dawn32 on Nov 15, 2010
I usually run a lotto analysis on hot and cold numbers for the WV Cash 25. Do u think its best to run the analysis based on the last 25 draws or 50 draws? I can't seem to figure out which is best. Thanks!
Because 24% of the possible numbers are drawn every time, the more past drawings you use would give you false readings on which numbers were really hot. One number could appear 5 out the first 10 drawings in the past 50 and then just average once out of every five of the next 40 drawings but would be considered "hot" by the total count.
Four numbers should repeat from the last four drawings about 70% of the time and three numbers about 95% so you only have to look at four drawings to find the "hot" numbers. All six numbers repeated from the past four drawings 205 time in the last 3100 Cash 25 drawings.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 16, 2010
Because 24% of the possible numbers are drawn every time, the more past drawings you use would give you false readings on which numbers were really hot. One number could appear 5 out the first 10 drawings in the past 50 and then just average once out of every five of the next 40 drawings but would be considered "hot" by the total count.
Four numbers should repeat from the last four drawings about 70% of the time and three numbers about 95% so you only have to look at four drawings to find the "hot" numbers. All six numbers repeated from the past four drawings 205 time in the last 3100 Cash 25 drawings.
That was very helpful!! Thank u!!
What I've been doing is analyzing the numbers from hot to cold alternating 25 draws to 50 draws (hence the OP) and then dividing them in 3 categories: Hot, lukewarm, cold (8 numbers per column except the lukewarm column which has 9).
Then I choose a wheel and include more hot numbers in my number selection, but am careful to include some cold numbers too.
So in trying to 'fine tune' my little method, I couldn't narrow down the better draw history.
So I'll try using a 4 draw history and go from there. I'm trying to win the jackpot on this game, since the odds are better than Mega or Powerball and the money is still pretty decent.
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Quote: Originally posted by Dawn32 on Nov 15, 2010
I usually run a lotto analysis on hot and cold numbers for the WV Cash 25. Do u think its best to run the analysis based on the last 25 draws or 50 draws? I can't seem to figure out which is best. Thanks!
When you do an analysis of the last 2000 drawings of Cash25 you notice that all 25 numbers have hit in 7-36 previous drawings mostly 13 previous drawings. Also all 6 winning numbers hit in 2-36 previous drawings mostly 7 previous drawings. For the next drawing all 25 numbers have hit in the last 8 drawings and when that happened in the past the numbers that hit 1-2 times hit most, not the hot numbers. In fact when you look at the last 1000 drawings numbers that hit 1-2 times in the previous 8 drawings matched six 2.7%, matched five 19.2% and matched four 32.2% of the times and were in a pools of 8-21 numbers. All 25 numbers hit in the last 8 drawings and 18 of them hit 1-2 times.
Good luck on winning the Cash25 jackpot, the odds might be better than other games but winning is not easy.
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Nov 16, 2010
When you do an analysis of the last 2000 drawings of Cash25 you notice that all 25 numbers have hit in 7-36 previous drawings mostly 13 previous drawings. Also all 6 winning numbers hit in 2-36 previous drawings mostly 7 previous drawings. For the next drawing all 25 numbers have hit in the last 8 drawings and when that happened in the past the numbers that hit 1-2 times hit most, not the hot numbers. In fact when you look at the last 1000 drawings numbers that hit 1-2 times in the previous 8 drawings matched six 2.7%, matched five 19.2% and matched four 32.2% of the times and were in a pools of 8-21 numbers. All 25 numbers hit in the last 8 drawings and 18 of them hit 1-2 times.
Good luck on winning the Cash25 jackpot, the odds might be better than other games but winning is not easy.
Yes it's definitely not easy I've been trying for 2 years on and off and I won't give up :-)
I always use a wheel, most of the time I use a 4if6of11 Key wheel, and so far I've been hitting the key number (which is always a hot number) but can't manage to get more than 2 or 3 on a line, with the occasional 4 numbers ($10 win). The wheel I use only cost me $2 and that's about all I can afford right now.
If anyone has a suggestion as to how I can better pick my numbers to wheel, please let me know!
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Quote: Originally posted by Dawn32 on Nov 16, 2010
That was very helpful!! Thank u!!
What I've been doing is analyzing the numbers from hot to cold alternating 25 draws to 50 draws (hence the OP) and then dividing them in 3 categories: Hot, lukewarm, cold (8 numbers per column except the lukewarm column which has 9).
Then I choose a wheel and include more hot numbers in my number selection, but am careful to include some cold numbers too.
So in trying to 'fine tune' my little method, I couldn't narrow down the better draw history.
So I'll try using a 4 draw history and go from there. I'm trying to win the jackpot on this game, since the odds are better than Mega or Powerball and the money is still pretty decent.
How many past drawings to use was always my biggest problem when I placed the Ohio Rolling Cash 5 numbers in order of more frequent, average, and cold. I did better by placing the numbers into a daily order of appearance and finding the spots on chart where numbers were consistently being drawn. The first 5 numbers were from the last drawing, the next 4 or 5 from two drawings ago and so on with all the numbers placed in their last appearance.
Because Cash 25 uses 24% of the numbers in every drawing it was easier to chart. About 3 years ago I made a chart for the WVA Cash 25 that showed potential and considered playing, but it would have involved a daily 100 mile round trip to WVA. There were sections of the chart that consistently showed 3 or 4 next drawing numbers and an occasional 5 or all six numbers. The sections usually had a total of 12 numbers so had I played, I would use 4 if 5 of 12 number wheel with 14 combinations.
From experience I know using abbreviated wheels are geared more for winning the wheel guarantee but they still have the potential to pay more than the guarantee and match all six numbers on the same line and collect a Jackpot. Used correctly and consistently collecting 3 and 4 number matches can pay for the cost of play, a nice profit by matching 5, or a big win if you match all 6.
"I'm trying to win the jackpot on this game, since the odds are better than Mega or Powerball and the money is still pretty decent."
It gets old after a while playing 5 or 10 QPs and only matching 1 or 2 numbers and not being close to matching the bonus ball. The thought of winning $150 for matching 4 numbers or 3 numbers plus the bonus numbers doesn't lite me up either. The odds of winning $10,000 playing PB is 723,145 to 1 and 177,100 to 1 to win $25,000 playing Cash 25.
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Quote: Originally posted by Stack47 on Nov 17, 2010
How many past drawings to use was always my biggest problem when I placed the Ohio Rolling Cash 5 numbers in order of more frequent, average, and cold. I did better by placing the numbers into a daily order of appearance and finding the spots on chart where numbers were consistently being drawn. The first 5 numbers were from the last drawing, the next 4 or 5 from two drawings ago and so on with all the numbers placed in their last appearance.
Because Cash 25 uses 24% of the numbers in every drawing it was easier to chart. About 3 years ago I made a chart for the WVA Cash 25 that showed potential and considered playing, but it would have involved a daily 100 mile round trip to WVA. There were sections of the chart that consistently showed 3 or 4 next drawing numbers and an occasional 5 or all six numbers. The sections usually had a total of 12 numbers so had I played, I would use 4 if 5 of 12 number wheel with 14 combinations.
From experience I know using abbreviated wheels are geared more for winning the wheel guarantee but they still have the potential to pay more than the guarantee and match all six numbers on the same line and collect a Jackpot. Used correctly and consistently collecting 3 and 4 number matches can pay for the cost of play, a nice profit by matching 5, or a big win if you match all 6.
"I'm trying to win the jackpot on this game, since the odds are better than Mega or Powerball and the money is still pretty decent."
It gets old after a while playing 5 or 10 QPs and only matching 1 or 2 numbers and not being close to matching the bonus ball. The thought of winning $150 for matching 4 numbers or 3 numbers plus the bonus numbers doesn't lite me up either. The odds of winning $10,000 playing PB is 723,145 to 1 and 177,100 to 1 to win $25,000 playing Cash 25.
That sounds like a very interesting chart. I have noticed that ALOT of the time there's at least 1 number from the previous drawing that will come out. Some wheels I've played I will use all 6 of the previous night's numbers and wheel them in with some additional numbers. And sometimes I will check the drawing from 2 nights prior and eliminate a number if it showed up twice already. It'll just take some time and patience but I'm staying positive about it.
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Quote: Originally posted by Dawn32 on Nov 17, 2010
That sounds like a very interesting chart. I have noticed that ALOT of the time there's at least 1 number from the previous drawing that will come out. Some wheels I've played I will use all 6 of the previous night's numbers and wheel them in with some additional numbers. And sometimes I will check the drawing from 2 nights prior and eliminate a number if it showed up twice already. It'll just take some time and patience but I'm staying positive about it.
When I simulated playing the six winning numbers of the previous drawing for all 3141 W.Va Cash25 drawings, I got the following results.
TOTAL MATCHES
MATCH 0 = 470 MATCH 1 = 1227 MATCH 2 = 1062 MATCH 3 = 336 $ 336 MATCH 4 = 42 $ 420 MATCH 5 = 3 $ 750 MATCH 6 = 0
I would have won 381 prizes or $1506 and spent $3140.
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Nov 19, 2010
When I simulated playing the six winning numbers of the previous drawing for all 3141 W.Va Cash25 drawings, I got the following results.
TOTAL MATCHES
MATCH 0 = 470 MATCH 1 = 1227 MATCH 2 = 1062 MATCH 3 = 336 $ 336 MATCH 4 = 42 $ 420 MATCH 5 = 3 $ 750 MATCH 6 = 0
I would have won 381 prizes or $1506 and spent $3140.
When you simulate playing the six winning numbers of the previous draw you have one 6 match. Not being mean, but they aren't called WINNING NUMBERS for nothing. So up until they won they produced the 2, 3, 4, 5 matches, but last night when all 6 hit, they produced a six digit winner.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Nov 20, 2010
When you simulate playing the six winning numbers of the previous draw you have one 6 match. Not being mean, but they aren't called WINNING NUMBERS for nothing. So up until they won they produced the 2, 3, 4, 5 matches, but last night when all 6 hit, they produced a six digit winner.
Yep, went through this myself.
Well I tried looking at the past 10 drawings and the past 20 drawings to decide on a pool of numbers to wheel and I did WORSE, lol. So using my 25 draw and 50 draw analysis I do way better. I'll just experiment some more I guess, really wanna fine tune it.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Nov 20, 2010
When you simulate playing the six winning numbers of the previous draw you have one 6 match. Not being mean, but they aren't called WINNING NUMBERS for nothing. So up until they won they produced the 2, 3, 4, 5 matches, but last night when all 6 hit, they produced a six digit winner.
Yep, went through this myself.
Sure, every winning combination have matched 6 once and some have done it twice six times this year alone as shown in my list below. None had done it again in the next drawing which was what I was simulating. Perhaps you were thinking of something different, please explain.
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Quote: Originally posted by garyo1954 on Nov 20, 2010
I'm going by what you said........
You 'simulated playing the 6 winning numbers from the previous drawing for all 3141 WV Cash25 drawings.'
If they were the 6 winning numbers from the previous drawing, how did they produce MATCH 6 = 0?
Shouldn't 6 winning numbers from the previous drawing produce Match 6 = 1.
I was responding to Dawn32 post of "I have noticed that ALOT of the time there's at least 1 number from the previous drawing that will come out."
I simulated taking the last winning combinations and playing them forward one drawing and recorded the matches. You are confusing playing forward with looking backward, the best those combinations did in the next drawing was match 5 three times,
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Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Nov 20, 2010
I was responding to Dawn32 post of "I have noticed that ALOT of the time there's at least 1 number from the previous drawing that will come out."
I simulated taking the last winning combinations and playing them forward one drawing and recorded the matches. You are confusing playing forward with looking backward, the best those combinations did in the next drawing was match 5 three times,
Ok I see, but I don't ONLY play the 6 winning numbers, I also wheel 5 other numbers (I wheel 11 numbers total) together. The only time I do NOT play a previous winning number is if it came out 2 times in a row already.
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