Wisconsin lottery benefiting from Minnesota government shutdown

Jul 12, 2011, 10:11 am (28 comments)

Wisconsin Lottery

Includes video report

HOULTON, Wis. — The cash register is humming at the gas station Mac Qasem manages in Houlton, Wisconsin, and he has squabbling Democrats and Republicans from Minnesota to thank for it.

"You know how much people, they just want to buy lottery," he smiles.

Since the Minnesota state shutdown began, lottery sales at Qasem's store are five times normal. "You just cross the bridge, couple of blocks and you're here," he points out. "The Minnesota state lottery is shut down, so they come here looking for luck."

Andrew Bohage, spokesperson for the Wisconsin Lottery, says Qasem's 400 percent sales hike does not appear to be uncommon. "We've been hearing some pretty eye popping statistics like that. And really we're hearing them all across the board."

Bohage says similar reports are coming in from Hudson, Prescott and Fountain City. The Wisconsin Lottery is currently surveying its retail outlets in border towns and hopes to have hard numbers on the sales increases within a couple of days.

Bohage says he's sorry it has to come at Minnesota's expense, but "we always welcome the chance to raise some more revenue for our lottery's mission which is to offset property taxes here in Wisconsin."

The situation is not so lucky at Lucky's gas station on the opposite side of the river in Stillwater.

"Can't cash 'em, can't sell 'em, can't sell scratch-offs — nothing," says Alan Cassady from behind the counter. An idle lottery machine sits nearby. "I can't even sign on," he says.

On the 11th day of the shutdown he say he still had to turn customers away who came into his store expecting to buy lottery tickets. "They say they need a Powerball so they're going over to Wisconsin.

Minnesotan Gary Wichelmann is among those now buying his lottery tickets at Qasem's store. "For the time being I'll just come across here so it's no problem for me," he said as picked up his tickets.

The store has also seen a big uptick in its sales of groceries thanks to Minnesotans who stop for lottery tickets and then pick up a few other items.

Minnesota's lottery is losing an average of $1.25 million each day the state remains shut down. Bad as that may be for the state's finances, Dale McDonnell, the lottery's assistant director, said his larger concern "is our 140 employees not receiving paychecks."

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dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

As I said before.....good for Wisconsin bad for Minnesota

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on Jul 12, 2011

As I said before.....good for Wisconsin bad for Minnesota

Another example of dems being willing to make everybody suffer rather than give up their insane spending sprees.

They just don't understand what the word "unsustainable" means when it comes to spending.

I hope Minnesotans learn from this experience.

sully16's avatarsully16

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on Jul 12, 2011

As I said before.....good for Wisconsin bad for Minnesota

Well said Dallas.Cheers

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

One and a quarter million dollars each day leaving Minnesota and going to Wisconsin because the governor took his ball and went home because nobody will let him be a dictator and spend them into oblivion.

Maybe Wisconsin will loan him some of that money back at a discount rate to help pay the bills after this self-imposed fiasco.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face, whoa.

dallascowboyfan's avatardallascowboyfan

Ridge, you would think this article would light a fire under their butts in getting things resolved... Not only is the State loosing a lot of money but people are out of work.....

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on Jul 12, 2011

Ridge, you would think this article would light a fire under their butts in getting things resolved... Not only is the State loosing a lot of money but people are out of work.....

Yeah, but the governor is worried about two things above all else - himself and his ego.

He'll only show compassion for people hurting and going through hard times when he becomes one of them.

And he's a rich man.

He'll let the state go into default, bankruptcy and collapse before he'll admit he's wrong.

Then blame it on the Republicans.

Captain Lotto's avatarCaptain Lotto

Des Moines Register reporting similar increases along Iowa border. Millions are flowing out of the state.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Captain Lotto on Jul 12, 2011

Des Moines Register reporting similar increases along Iowa border. Millions are flowing out of the state.

do the dakotas have lotteries ? they could pickin up some action.

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Good thing that Republicans run Wisconsin or maybe the Dems in Minnesota wouldn't have any place to send the money that they could be getting from the Minnesota Lottery .............. Ding Cuckoo, Ding Cuckoo ...............

Stooges  Minnesota Government at work!

CashWinner$

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Jul 12, 2011

do the dakotas have lotteries ? they could pickin up some action.

Yep the Dakotas have lottery as well..

All the border states are pickin up the action.

The Star Tribune reported that The State of Minnesota loses $2.3 million in profits from weekly lottery sales.

So geez, $1.25 mill a day in overall sales leaving + once you add in incidental purchases/tax losses..

I can't even wrap my mind around it to be honest.

Our politicians met the other day & Gov Dayton said he would forgo his 'rich' tax increases if Repubs would agree to a $1-per-pack cigarette tax hike.

Repubs said no. (thankfully so, kuz we benefit immensely from outta staters buyin cheaper smokes here)

I think they need to try a little harder. The other day they met for 23 minutes. C'mon, really?

We look like fools.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by CashWinner$ on Jul 12, 2011

Yep the Dakotas have lottery as well..

All the border states are pickin up the action.

The Star Tribune reported that The State of Minnesota loses $2.3 million in profits from weekly lottery sales.

So geez, $1.25 mill a day in overall sales leaving + once you add in incidental purchases/tax losses..

I can't even wrap my mind around it to be honest.

Our politicians met the other day & Gov Dayton said he would forgo his 'rich' tax increases if Repubs would agree to a $1-per-pack cigarette tax hike.

Repubs said no. (thankfully so, kuz we benefit immensely from outta staters buyin cheaper smokes here)

I think they need to try a little harder. The other day they met for 23 minutes. C'mon, really?

We look like fools.

thanks,but that brings up nother? if no one in gov't is working, who's putting the tax stamp on the cigs ?.

CashWinner$

Quote: Originally posted by haymaker on Jul 12, 2011

thanks,but that brings up nother? if no one in gov't is working, who's putting the tax stamp on the cigs ?.

Believe me, there are people still working.

However, Minnesota's new fiscal year started on July 1 w/out an agreed upon budget in place...equalling a shutdown.

I do not know the specifics about the taxes and the like.

I do know that we can still buy cigs tho.

Coin Toss's avatarCoin Toss

In the other thread about Minnesota and Iowa someone mentioned something about those who don't understand shutting down the state lottery needing to take a course in civics.

Seeing the amount of money lost by the Minnesota lottery, that is the money not taken in, compared to what they would have paid the lottery people is an excellent real world lesson in why school book solutions don't always apply to real life situa.

I nominate the governor of Minnesota for the Bonehead of the Year Award.

JAP69's avatarJAP69

What state is Minnesota in?

dpoly1's avatardpoly1

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Jul 12, 2011

What state is Minnesota in?

I am pretty sure it is one of the "57 States" that the "Smart President" said he would visit.

Shutting down a self funded lottery is sure stupid!

Crazy

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

Quote: Originally posted by JAP69 on Jul 12, 2011

What state is Minnesota in?

Disrepair.

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Jul 12, 2011

In the other thread about Minnesota and Iowa someone mentioned something about those who don't understand shutting down the state lottery needing to take a course in civics.

Seeing the amount of money lost by the Minnesota lottery, that is the money not taken in, compared to what they would have paid the lottery people is an excellent real world lesson in why school book solutions don't always apply to real life situa.

I nominate the governor of Minnesota for the Bonehead of the Year Award.

i 2nd that!

faber98

this really isn't that juicy a topic, since when wisconsin has the same issue, minnesota will get all the lottery business from that state making up for the current loss. what goes around comes around. we need some fresh scandalous material to mock and criticize.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by Captain Lotto on Jul 12, 2011

Des Moines Register reporting similar increases along Iowa border. Millions are flowing out of the state.

Lottery Post reported it too.  Very strange that even a gov't shutdown would turn off a big revenue source.

Todd's avatarTodd

Quote: Originally posted by faber98 on Jul 12, 2011

this really isn't that juicy a topic, since when wisconsin has the same issue, minnesota will get all the lottery business from that state making up for the current loss. what goes around comes around. we need some fresh scandalous material to mock and criticize.

Not sure what you mean.  Wisconsin does not have a government shutdown, and thanks to recent efforts by the governor, they probably will avoid many of the finaicial problems that other states are facing.

maringoman's avatarmaringoman

One man's loss is another mans gain. What a crazy world we call home.

rdgrnr's avatarrdgrnr

The people of Minnesota ought to recall that governor and make him repay all that money he's throwing away just to satisfy his political ego.

What a jerk.

faber98

todd: probably won't happen in wisc. since it hasn't happened anywhere else for more than a day maybe. could happen though and minn. would recoup some of the lost revenue. you have to think the residents of minn. are actually saving money being denied the opportunity to buy scratch tickets and impossible to hit powerball or megamillions.  those in the middle of the state at least, if they want to play bad enough they will find a way.

Sosaman66

Quote: Originally posted by CashWinner$ on Jul 12, 2011

Yep the Dakotas have lottery as well..

All the border states are pickin up the action.

The Star Tribune reported that The State of Minnesota loses $2.3 million in profits from weekly lottery sales.

So geez, $1.25 mill a day in overall sales leaving + once you add in incidental purchases/tax losses..

I can't even wrap my mind around it to be honest.

Our politicians met the other day & Gov Dayton said he would forgo his 'rich' tax increases if Repubs would agree to a $1-per-pack cigarette tax hike.

Repubs said no. (thankfully so, kuz we benefit immensely from outta staters buyin cheaper smokes here)

I think they need to try a little harder. The other day they met for 23 minutes. C'mon, really?

We look like fools.

I was just in Fargo, ND last weekend, and yes, ND has multi-state lottery games, but they have no scratch-offs. I believe ND is one of just 4 states where they have the multi-state games but really no individual state games of their own.

Also, I hardly doubt that $1.25M in lottery sales is leaving the state a day. That's what MN isn't taking in, but I doubt there's people driving over state lines and buying $1.25M worth of tickets a day, that seems pretty extreme.

CashWinner$

Quote: Originally posted by Sosaman66 on Jul 13, 2011

I was just in Fargo, ND last weekend, and yes, ND has multi-state lottery games, but they have no scratch-offs. I believe ND is one of just 4 states where they have the multi-state games but really no individual state games of their own.

Also, I hardly doubt that $1.25M in lottery sales is leaving the state a day. That's what MN isn't taking in, but I doubt there's people driving over state lines and buying $1.25M worth of tickets a day, that seems pretty extreme.

Welcome to LP -

What are your stats regarding lost revenue (ticket sales, state-end profits)?

I got my info from The Star Trib & The Washington Post.

ressuccess's avatarressuccess

Why did they have a shutdown in Minnesota to help Wisconsin?

haymaker's avatarhaymaker

Quote: Originally posted by ressuccess on Jul 14, 2011

Why did they have a shutdown in Minnesota to help Wisconsin?

uhh...they did't do it to help wi. it was just a result. look for "cause and effect "

CashWinner$

Hi Sosaman -

I bet your real glad we'll be getting our precious lottery back soon, eh.......Awesome, ain't it.....

Bein' that your from Burnsville, Minnesota, and all.....

Yes Nod Green laughLOL

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