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savagegoose

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Apr 5, 2012, 9:59 pm

yea so what this is going to do is not get many people untill has enough proplr to start working, then everyone will join. i guess we need it to be forprediciting, until there is enough to play then for paying.

but that would mean only putting in what numbers you are prepared to back with money when the game rolls. so its kind of an enrollment of interest untill there are 120 people

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lottogenie

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Apr 5, 2012, 10:22 pm

yea unfortunatedly its hard to get that many people all on the same page at the same time

i remember i used to be a part of a lotto pool....the head honcho used o buy lots and i mean lots of

quick picks...i suggested using a lottery system,,,,but you cant makem believe you know what your talking

about,,,especially when their not keen on probability,,stats,,wheeling and such..

if they only new they was talking to the lottogenie,,we could won alot more than we did....lol,,,,,,

it was a good concept,,but its hard to get that many people together.
savagegoose

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Apr 5, 2012, 10:38 pm

ive been a head honcho, and people come with ideas on how ishould run things. i always said go start a pool, and get people to join and i can sto[p running this one and join your pool. non of themn ever did, i imagine its always seen as more work.

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2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 = -1171; 2017 = -1257 ; 2018 = - 1380 = TOT = - 6233

keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= -424; 2017 =-427; 2018= -223 TOT = -3968

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Apr 6, 2012, 2:06 am

If you want to convince people to join a pool you have to demonstrate clearly to them what you can achieve with your system. Which means, if you can, backtracking it for at least 2-3 month, computing the results and presenting them to the prospective players.

As we all know money talks. If you can demonstrate that your method can make money on regular and extended basis (though not necessarily all the time) you will convince many. Personally I would be.

You did predict your straight single a few days ago, I can attest to that. But it's only 1 swallow and it does not make the spring. However, if you can get more swallows frequently you can be pretty sure prospective candidates for your pool will start paying attention.

Years ago I organized a pool for Lotto 649 in Ontario, Canada. 10 people, co-workers, most not very convinced at first so I had to use quite a bit of persuasion to encourage to join the pool. On the very 3rd draw we won a fairly large chunk of money (a few hundred bucks). I did not need persuasion any more. I heard "yes" even before I asked to join (the pool membership was renewed every month).

Demonstrate that you can generate some income for the prospective players and they will be knocking your door. Show them the numbers, not opinions or hopes. Numbers are like money - they talk and convince. Good luck.

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Apr 6, 2012, 11:22 am

Quote: Originally posted by aquariuslottery on Apr 6, 2012
If you want to convince people to join a pool you have to demonstrate clearly to them what you can achieve with your system. Which means, if you can, backtracking it for at least 2-3 month, computing the results and presenting them to the prospective players.

As we all know money talks. If you can demonstrate that your method can make money on regular and extended basis (though not necessarily all the time) you will convince many. Personally I would be.

You did predict your straight single a few days ago, I can attest to that. But it's only 1 swallow and it does not make the spring. However, if you can get more swallows frequently you can be pretty sure prospective candidates for your pool will start paying attention.

Years ago I organized a pool for Lotto 649 in Ontario, Canada. 10 people, co-workers, most not very convinced at first so I had to use quite a bit of persuasion to encourage to join the pool. On the very 3rd draw we won a fairly large chunk of money (a few hundred bucks). I did not need persuasion any more. I heard "yes" even before I asked to join (the pool membership was renewed every month).

Demonstrate that you can generate some income for the prospective players and they will be knocking your door. Show them the numbers, not opinions or hopes. Numbers are like money - they talk and convince. Good luck.

Aquarius

good point!
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Apr 6, 2012, 10:57 pm

For curiosity I took a look at Texas Pick 3, entered its draws from Jan 2 into my system and ran stats. I have to say I really liked what I saw.

I always said that in Pick 3 money lies in doubles. Have you noticed how many doubles you had between Mar 28 and Apr 5? 8 out of 15 draws, remaining 7 being singles. Never seen such a concentration before.

And when I wheeled 8 hot numbers for box doubles for that period 7 out of 8 these draws doubles were winners. But for the remaining 7 singles only 2 won

Need a better proof that you have to target doubles to make money in Pick 3? This is good enough for me, and I've seen it before.

I wish I could post the screen shots but LP's text editor does not allow pasting images.

Aquarius

P.S. You had a similar streak of doubles in February as well. These are the times to play hard.
lottogenie

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Apr 6, 2012, 11:17 pm

yes but its been unusual how many doubles have been hitting lately..but i was tinkering

with the idea about playing doubles too...but i just dont like playing them...
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Apr 7, 2012, 10:48 pm

It's very tempting to concentrate on singles as they constitute 72% of all combinations.

But I see this from the following angle:

The ods for winning a double are 10 X 10 = 1 in 100.

The same ods for a single are 10 X 10 X 10 = 1 in 1000.

Of all combinations possible in Pick 3:

720 are singles

270 are doubles

10 are triples.

The ratio of singles to doubles is roughly 2.7 to 1. Far from 10 to 1.

And on top of this doubles pay more than singles. Which means that

if you ONLY play box singles you will ALWAYS win LESS money than

if you ONLY play box doubles.

Looks straightforward and logical to me. Conclusion: if you want to

make money in Pick 3 - you`ve gotta play doubles. Period. And if you

can`t make money in Pick 3 what`s the point of playing it?

Aquarius
lottogenie

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Apr 7, 2012, 11:20 pm

good point maybe i need to rethink it.
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Apr 8, 2012, 12:36 pm

Quote: Originally posted by savagegoose on Apr 4, 2012
if you could get 1000 people to co operate you could move mountains

Here is my idea. Ea. plays for a buck, their chosen number, and ea day 1 is guaranteed to win. if you use alternate gambling options a 900$ win.

of course this would mean many many of us lose ea week in and week out., but someone gets a hit.Im not suggesting sharing winning,s ea winner would keep their win, just the numbers 000-999 would bew assinged on a 1st come 1st gets the number basis? we sort of team up for the common good.

Which State?

The State would win regardless. You would have 999 losers each day.. and the state would win $500 each day..

I would love to be the state there..

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savagegoose

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Apr 8, 2012, 8:46 pm

i usually play Tx, only cuz i know someone there,. yiu are right , 500 payout meand the house wins good. but i am thinking online books that seem to pay 900 or 9000, meaning house makes 100 . its still a better weath distribution tax than the gov charges.

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2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 = -1171; 2017 = -1257 ; 2018 = - 1380 = TOT = - 6233

keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= -424; 2017 =-427; 2018= -223 TOT = -3968

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lottogenie

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Apr 9, 2012, 11:36 pm

i hit another swallow 2day :) even predicted it would hit before april 12 it was random

order this time tho 126 was my number in my watchem hit post.

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