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There's something I'd like to share with you. This time I tried using RSG which generates 10 sets. I set only a couple of filters. The results are outstanding though it may only be a coincidence.
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Quote: Originally posted by adamcustom on Jun 26, 2012
There's something I'd like to share with you. This time I tried using RSG which generates 10 sets. I set only a couple of filters. The results are outstanding though it may only be a coincidence.
Adam, coincidence or not that's outstanding. My feeling is, if It happens once, it can happen again. It might happen, anytime.
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I agree. What may be important that this filter settings give only 88 sets when running FW. Then perhaps before using RSG we should first run full wheel and see how many sets we get. The fewer the number of sets overall the bigger the chance it will be in, provided we were correct with the values we'd chosen.
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What I also notice is that when we go for side filters and not digits or groups we are more likely to get a good result using RSG than AC. The reason is AC is more tuned to digit and group setup then RSG.
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Quote: Originally posted by adamcustom on Jun 26, 2012
What I also notice is that when we go for side filters and not digits or groups we are more likely to get a good result using RSG than AC. The reason is AC is more tuned to digit and group setup then RSG.
That is something everyone should remember. I'm also going to test Jim's suggestion on the filters!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by CARBOB on Jun 26, 2012
That is something everyone should remember. I'm also going to test Jim's suggestion on the filters!!!
As to Jim's suggestion we have to pay attention to the fact that it's a bit similar to say base digit hitting 4 or 5 times. It does happen, but pretty seldom. If I were to focus on the largest reduction then with LH=0/0 854 draws were not enough for this filter value to hit. Quite a long time, isn't it?
It is all determined by the game matrix. I think that what happens the most is a better option than what happens very rarely.
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Quote: Originally posted by adamcustom on Jun 26, 2012
As to Jim's suggestion we have to pay attention to the fact that it's a bit similar to say base digit hitting 4 or 5 times. It does happen, but pretty seldom. If I were to focus on the largest reduction then with LH=0/0 854 draws were not enough for this filter value to hit. Quite a long time, isn't it?
It is all determined by the game matrix. I think that what happens the most is a better option than what happens very rarely.
I disagree totally with your following statement:
"As to Jim's suggestion we have to pay attention to the fact that it's a bit similar to say base digit hitting 4 or 5 times. It does happen, but pretty seldom"
The following picture is 2012 Powerball drawings, you can see that DB, DE, DO are 0 quite a bit. If you wanted to go to the extreme you can think of those 3 filters as a pick3 draw using only the digits 0-3.
I'm not saying to set all those filters to 0/0 what I'm saying setting one filter to 0/0 depending on which one you choose can remove alot of combinations from play. DB, DM, HD, PN in particular. HL 0/0 really reduces the combinations but I would consider that one in seldom category. If you combine a 0/0 filter with reasonable settings for other filters and eliminate 2-3 digits then you can reduce combinations considerably for use with either RSG or RLP. This is why I don't use HD 0/0 alot because this filter is the same as setting 6,7,8,9 to 0. So if you use this filter your essentially just setting those digits to 0.
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You misunderstood me. I have nothing against setting DO, DB or DE to 0. It happens quite often in my game that they take this value. What I meant was I'm not for playing a value like LH=0 that hit only once or MD=0 which hit 22 times in over 1000 draws while there are others that show 25% or more. I would only do it quite a lot of other cues pointed in that direction.
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Quote: Originally posted by adamcustom on Jun 26, 2012
Jimmy
You misunderstood me. I have nothing against setting DO, DB or DE to 0. It happens quite often in my game that they take this value. What I meant was I'm not for playing a value like LH=0 that hit only once or MD=0 which hit 22 times in over 1000 draws while there are others that show 25% or more. I would only do it quite a lot of other cues pointed in that direction.
I agree I was just trying to point out if people want to make the best use of this tool that you should have an understanding of which filters have the most bang for the buck and only concentrate on setting a few filters to specific values.
ID=6 TB=4 DB=1 has happened 8 times in 2012 and setting those filters by themselves reduces a 5 million+ matrix for Powerball to below 300,000.
I just think to make the most use of the tool the player has to have an understanding that if I choose this filter what impact does it have on the matrix. I haven't seen anyone discuss this aspect yet and thought I would initiate the discussion.
Also instead of 0/0 you can go to the other extreme of setting filters to a commonly hit high value such as 3/3 for DB.
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Quote: Originally posted by jimjwright on Jun 26, 2012
I agree I was just trying to point out if people want to make the best use of this tool that you should have an understanding of which filters have the most bang for the buck and only concentrate on setting a few filters to specific values.
ID=6 TB=4 DB=1 has happened 8 times in 2012 and setting those filters by themselves reduces a 5 million+ matrix for Powerball to below 300,000.
I just think to make the most use of the tool the player has to have an understanding that if I choose this filter what impact does it have on the matrix. I haven't seen anyone discuss this aspect yet and thought I would initiate the discussion.
Also instead of 0/0 you can go to the other extreme of setting filters to a commonly hit high value such as 3/3 for DB.
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Jimmy
You are 100% right. This is an excellent way to practice using different setups and checking what impact they have on our play. Some setups can reduce really well and still have a good chance of hitting while others not so much. It's good to reduce, but still have a chance to hit.
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One more thing that made me laugh. The same day I compared playing LH=0 to playing a base digit set at 4 or 5, digit 1 hit 5 times with all F4 hitting. Lottery, lottery. I think it's a coincidence, but looks like chance poking fun at me.
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Can any of the beta testers give input on 6/49 lottery that they might have tried with RL's programme? Would be interesting to see what strategies ppl might have come up with to try and reduce the almost 14 million combinations.
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Quote: Originally posted by Ramijami on Jun 28, 2012
Can any of the beta testers give input on 6/49 lottery that they might have tried with RL's programme? Would be interesting to see what strategies ppl might have come up with to try and reduce the almost 14 million combinations.
Ramijami
I decided against playing P-6 due to the odds and cost of play. Where I live playing a line of P-6 costs more than double as compared to a line of P-5. Lower prize payouts also do not justify playing that game.
As to strategies you have to be able to select at least a couple of digits to block and 2 or 3 to play. Most of the time all F-4 hit, so that's the easy part. Without selecting a few groups to block and play it's hard to think of a sound reduction bringing the sets down to a playable amount.
Overall, good setups are very much like those presented by RL for Big Games. Unless you are able to filter-reduce to some 200- 300 sets, it's hard to hope for AC or RSG reductions with higher prizes in.