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Quote: Originally posted by flossdog on Aug 21, 2012
Make a living off of pick 3? You need a reality check. What are going to live off? A couple huinderd a month ? Maybe? More like losing that. A park bench and bag of doritos? Please be serious! Show me a person who is making a living off pic 3 or 4 and I'll show you a cat that talks. You have better chance of making a living with a job or maybe 2 or 3.
Tell that to Peter St. Pierre from NH. He's been raking in big bucks for a few years now using Steve Player's system.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Aug 22, 2012
Tell that to Peter St. Pierre from NH. He's been raking in big bucks for a few years now using Steve Player's system.
I will. Peter St. Pierre? real name?? I'm sure st. peter will only tell you how much he wins not how much he loses Which one of his systems? Lucky Loser?... Raking in big bucks? oh really? The only way he is raking in big bucks from Players system is that they're falling from the sky on his front lawn. Why don't you just use the system he is using ? ...here is another reality check. steve players systems are garbage. I have bought and used them back in the 90's as well as hundreds of other members on this forum.
Go look up Steve player on this forum and you will NOT find one positive review. The systems are all losers. I know for a fact a member here paid big bucks for a pick 3/4 system recently and another member put it into excel testing proved BIG LOSER. that is not his real name just a pseudo business name. IN this day why is he still using and selling antiquated paper and pencil methods and not a computer program?
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I looked at the past 152 pk3 drawings here in Texas and find that one of the 82 numbers on your list has come out 72 times. I still do things the hard/slow way paper and pencil. If my math is right thats about once every 2.11 drawings.( 9 straight and 63 box) Obviously filtering the 82 numbers down to a much lower number each drawing without giving up many hits is a key. I am just starting to look at some of the systems and seeing what works best for me. I do not pay any attention to any other States drawings but here in Texas they seem to do some crazy stuff often with the numbers.(like repeats, go up or down by one,straight off pretest etc) We have had 4417 come out twice and 1447 once in the past 20 days, these things seem odd to me but maybe these things happen in all the States just as often as here in Texas. Anyway I appreciate you sharing the list of 82 numbers and the input from others on this post and other posts. I think I can use it to cut my plays down and increase my hits but I have a long way to go to ever make a consistent profit.
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I did some minor back testing in missouri,it hits alot,but if you only played 1 draw per day,and lets say 5-6 days a week,and managed to get the numbers down to,lets say 30,thats .50 cents per,thus 15 per draw and 75-90 per week,on one week i did it wouldve hit 4 times out of 7,thus if i had filtered down to 30 numbers and still had those 4 hits,i would make 200,thus a 110 dollar profit,however,lol,on another week,i had only 2 hits,filtered one out on that week,i didnt run a filter on the first week,got it down to 44 numbers on the second week i did,couldve prob worked it down to 25-30,but it @44 #'s missed once and only hit 2 times.I think if you had a really good system and used this as a add on to it,you mite do really well,but it would have to filter down to around 30 or less numbers and hit at least 2-3 times a week to make a min profit.thank you for sharing,i like it and may play with it a little.
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Quote: Originally posted by flossdog on Aug 25, 2012
I will. Peter St. Pierre? real name?? I'm sure st. peter will only tell you how much he wins not how much he loses Which one of his systems? Lucky Loser?... Raking in big bucks? oh really? The only way he is raking in big bucks from Players system is that they're falling from the sky on his front lawn. Why don't you just use the system he is using ? ...here is another reality check. steve players systems are garbage. I have bought and used them back in the 90's as well as hundreds of other members on this forum.
Go look up Steve player on this forum and you will NOT find one positive review. The systems are all losers. I know for a fact a member here paid big bucks for a pick 3/4 system recently and another member put it into excel testing proved BIG LOSER. that is not his real name just a pseudo business name. IN this day why is he still using and selling antiquated paper and pencil methods and not a computer program?
keep buying Players system it's only money.
Yeah ok, Peter st. pierre spends thousands every year just to go into the hole. You're not as bright as you think you are. I've owned steve player systems too. You can be a skeptic, but don't close your mind.
Some of the dumbest people on the planet are the ones who think they've figured it all out, and that they can't learn anything else because If they haven't seen it with their own eyes, it must not exist. Stop making a fool out of yourself cause you don't and can't possibly know all the facts.
Maybe next time you'll use some of your brain cells before you decide to write.
Yeah, last month I spent 5,000 playing p-4 and won 3,000, HEY, I HAVE AN IDEA, I'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH. NEXT MONTH I SPENT ANOTHER 5 GRAND AND WON 2 GRAND, HEY I'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH.
A YEAR GOES BY, I'M IN THE RED BY 30 GRAND, HEY GUESS WHAT GUYS, I'M GONNA DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR CAUSE I LIKE TO LOSE MONEY. DUH!!!!
Around 1988 I was trying to get on the mail order business and read some of the monthly business magazines that were being sold back then. One advice a friend gave me was priceless. A full page ad back then cost 3 grand. The trick was to see If that person had the exact ad the following month at the price of 3 grand. If he did, it meant he was making money, if not, then it was a losing proposition and the person either quit or tried another method.
No one will keep spending money unless they make a profit, ESPECIALLY FOR YEARS ON END! HELLO !!!!
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Quote: Originally posted by flossdog on Aug 25, 2012
I will. Peter St. Pierre? real name?? I'm sure st. peter will only tell you how much he wins not how much he loses Which one of his systems? Lucky Loser?... Raking in big bucks? oh really? The only way he is raking in big bucks from Players system is that they're falling from the sky on his front lawn. Why don't you just use the system he is using ? ...here is another reality check. steve players systems are garbage. I have bought and used them back in the 90's as well as hundreds of other members on this forum.
Go look up Steve player on this forum and you will NOT find one positive review. The systems are all losers. I know for a fact a member here paid big bucks for a pick 3/4 system recently and another member put it into excel testing proved BIG LOSER. that is not his real name just a pseudo business name. IN this day why is he still using and selling antiquated paper and pencil methods and not a computer program?
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Aug 25, 2012
Yeah ok, Peter st. pierre spends thousands every year just to go into the hole. You're not as bright as you think you are. I've owned steve player systems too. You can be a skeptic, but don't close your mind.
Some of the dumbest people on the planet are the ones who think they've figured it all out, and that they can't learn anything else because If they haven't seen it with their own eyes, it must not exist. Stop making a fool out of yourself cause you don't and can't possibly know all the facts.
Maybe next time you'll use some of your brain cells before you decide to write.
Yeah, last month I spent 5,000 playing p-4 and won 3,000, HEY, I HAVE AN IDEA, I'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH. NEXT MONTH I SPENT ANOTHER 5 GRAND AND WON 2 GRAND, HEY I'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH.
A YEAR GOES BY, I'M IN THE RED BY 30 GRAND, HEY GUESS WHAT GUYS, I'M GONNA DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR CAUSE I LIKE TO LOSE MONEY. DUH!!!!
Around 1988 I was trying to get on the mail order business and read some of the monthly business magazines that were being sold back then. One advice a friend gave me was priceless. A full page ad back then cost 3 grand. The trick was to see If that person had the exact ad the following month at the price of 3 grand. If he did, it meant he was making money, if not, then it was a losing proposition and the person either quit or tried another method.
No one will keep spending money unless they make a profit, ESPECIALLY FOR YEARS ON END! HELLO !!!!
I know all the facts on Players system. Obviously you didn't check the posts on here. Hmm..let's read this one.....
The only thing "Steve Player" is going to squeeze is your wallet.
This is from a thread 9 years ago:
Thanks for your email. "Steve Player" is not a real person. It's a
corporation more or less. This corporation claims to have a way to
determine what the winning numbers will be for the Pick 3/Pick 4 daily
numbers games. It is my understanding that "he" will sell you a computer
program to help you determine the winning numbers.
From our records, "he" has won just about $296,000. To win this, we have
determined that "he" has spent about $500,000. The Pick 3/Pick 4 tickets
are purchased at a particular lottery retailer or two in our state.
Therefore, when we see large sales at that retailer, we know tickets have
been purchased on behalf of "Steve Player". This is the way we have
determined that he has spent $500,000 to win $296,000.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to respond to this email.
Thanks for your interest.
Maura McCann, Director of Marketing
New Hampshire Lottery
14 Integra Drive
Concord, NH 03301
Could that be your friend in New Hampshire, St. Peter? That sounds like Steve Player is a winner to me! Check the facts before you open your mouth.
And I know you're with stupid. Why don't you tell all of us the Steve Player systems you make money with? If they're so good why are you trying to make a living developing your own?
<<<One advice a friend gave me was priceless. A full page ad back then cost 3 grand. The trick was to see If that person had the exact ad the following month at the price of 3 grand. If he did, it meant he was making money, if not, then it was a losing proposition and the person either quit or tried another method.>>>....WOW...that ispure genius!..Marketing 101!
<<<<No one will keep spending money unless they make a profit, ESPECIALLY FOR YEARS ON END! >>>>..It's calledGAMBLINGmy little friend.Oh, let me get this straight Einstein.... so people who gamble are always making a profit, that's why they gamble. They play the lottery, horses, casino games. They're always in profit. the casinos and the lottery would be out of business. Can I shed some light on that dim bulb in that head of yours?
People keep spending money because 99% of them are LOSING..did you hear me?? LOSING money and trying to get it back. You need a wake up call.
Apparently in 1988 you didn't learn your lesson. I'm going to repeat it for you. A guy goes to the store every day for a week and buys lottery tickets but has lost money. So then he figures it's a losing proposition and doesn't come back to store and buy more because it's not profitable.....but wait...maybe he tries another method (like you) and loses more money, and tries another method and another method, ad nauseum and keeps losing money..but he still gambles hoping he will hit the big one and get all his money back. That is YOU! That my little friend is what gambling can do and just what you are doing. So let's read again what you just posted that is so ridiculous. I quote "No one will keep spending money unless they make a profit, ESPECIALLY FOR YEARS ON END! "..Go talk to people at Gamblers Anonymous...I'm sure they'll agree with your foolish statement...NOT!
HELLO !!! BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE IS HOME BETWEEN YOUR EARS. Go back to the mail order business stuffing envelopes. At least there is something in them.
The only thing "Steve Player" is going to squeeze is your wallet.
This is from a thread 9 years ago:
Thanks for your email. "Steve Player" is not a real person. It's a
corporation more or less. This corporation claims to have a way to
determine what the winning numbers will be for the Pick 3/Pick 4 daily
numbers games. It is my understanding that "he" will sell you a computer
program to help you determine the winning numbers.
From our records, "he" has won just about $296,000. To win this, we have
determined that "he" has spent about $500,000. The Pick 3/Pick 4 tickets
are purchased at a particular lottery retailer or two in our state.
Therefore, when we see large sales at that retailer, we know tickets have
been purchased on behalf of "Steve Player". This is the way we have
determined that he has spent $500,000 to win $296,000.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to respond to this email.
Thanks for your interest.
Maura McCann, Director of Marketing
New Hampshire Lottery
14 Integra Drive
Concord, NH 03301
Could that be your friend in New Hampshire, St. Peter? That sounds like Steve Player is a winner to me! Check the facts before you open your mouth.
And I know you're with stupid. Why don't you tell all of us the Steve Player systems you make money with? If they're so good why are you trying to make a living developing your own?
<<<One advice a friend gave me was priceless. A full page ad back then cost 3 grand. The trick was to see If that person had the exact ad the following month at the price of 3 grand. If he did, it meant he was making money, if not, then it was a losing proposition and the person either quit or tried another method.>>>....WOW...that ispure genius!..Marketing 101!
<<<<No one will keep spending money unless they make a profit, ESPECIALLY FOR YEARS ON END! >>>>..It's calledGAMBLINGmy little friend.Oh, let me get this straight Einstein.... so people who gamble are always making a profit, that's why they gamble. They play the lottery, horses, casino games. They're always in profit. the casinos and the lottery would be out of business. Can I shed some light on that dim bulb in that head of yours?
People keep spending money because 99% of them are LOSING..did you hear me?? LOSING money and trying to get it back. You need a wake up call.
Apparently in 1988 you didn't learn your lesson. I'm going to repeat it for you. A guy goes to the store every day for a week and buys lottery tickets but has lost money. So then he figures it's a losing proposition and doesn't come back to store and buy more because it's not profitable.....but wait...maybe he tries another method (like you) and loses more money, and tries another method and another method, ad nauseum and keeps losing money..but he still gambles hoping he will hit the big one and get all his money back. That is YOU! That my little friend is what gambling can do and just what you are doing. So let's read again what you just posted that is so ridiculous. I quote "No one will keep spending money unless they make a profit, ESPECIALLY FOR YEARS ON END! "..Go talk to people at Gamblers Anonymous...I'm sure they'll agree with your foolish statement...NOT!
HELLO !!! BUT APPARENTLY NO ONE IS HOME BETWEEN YOUR EARS. Go back to the mail order business stuffing envelopes. At least there is something in them.
Your analogy of spending money is false. I don't spend thousands a month, I have a very tight budget of about 3 bucks a week. I can afford to lose that amount, even more than that, much more, but i won't unless i have a winning system.
You ASSUME st. pierres is steve player, and even if steve player was this guy, you'd have to sell a record amount of systems to not only cover the cost of losing thousands of dollars in hopes to show winning tickets to everyone, fooling them all the way, but sustaining that on an ongoing basis.
Let me tell you something. Your understanding of any systems will be flawed, not just your opinion on steve player systems. You lack dimension.
What's really scary is that I had to go down so far as to explain Marketing 101 to you. If it was so freaking obvious, why did you question why someone would continue spending money despit loss? Then you come up with the old excuse, there is no st. pierre, it's steve player in disguise.
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Quote: Originally posted by onlymoney on Aug 26, 2012
Your analogy of spending money is false. I don't spend thousands a month, I have a very tight budget of about 3 bucks a week. I can afford to lose that amount, even more than that, much more, but i won't unless i have a winning system.
You ASSUME st. pierres is steve player, and even if steve player was this guy, you'd have to sell a record amount of systems to not only cover the cost of losing thousands of dollars in hopes to show winning tickets to everyone, fooling them all the way, but sustaining that on an ongoing basis.
Let me tell you something. Your understanding of any systems will be flawed, not just your opinion on steve player systems. You lack dimension.
What's really scary is that I had to go down so far as to explain Marketing 101 to you. If it was so freaking obvious, why did you question why someone would continue spending money despit loss? Then you come up with the old excuse, there is no st. pierre, it's steve player in disguise.
ok, you're right,
Thanks! I knew you'd see it my way . I'd be sick too if my budget was $3 a week to spend on anything much less the lottery. You can spend more ? Much more? How about $1 a day? Obviously you don't have a winning system. If there was a consistent winning system these folks on here wouldn't be on here searching for ways to beat it. My understanding of any systems will be flawed??? Let me tell you something Einstein....here's some breaking news for you...It's mathematics and probability. Something you obviously don't understand. Maybe a win here and there but long term losing yes.
In all seriousness friend, if that is your budget for the WEEK then you've got some serious financial problems and you better forget the lottery. Save that $3 a week...bus fare is expensive. Hmm..but I recall you stating you're spending your time trying to find a system(on $3 a week) so you can make a living on pic3. PLEASE...spare me the details of your minimal existence. I lack dimension?... Yes, you are right on this one, because yours is much larger than mine when you stand in the mirror.
You know what's really scary?? You keep banging your head against the wall searching for that winning system....eventually you'll knock yourself out and wake up to reality.