FRANKFORT, Ky. — Democratic House leaders want to add a 6 percent sales tax to Kentucky Lottery purchases and expand the selection of lottery games as a way to increase funding for the state's ailing pension system.
House State Government Chairman Brent Yonts, D-Greenville, said adding a 6 percent sales tax on lottery games could generate about $49 million a year for the state. Adding additional games to the lottery could generate an additional $70 million to $90 million, he said.
Combined, Yonts predicted the changes would provide the $120 million in General Fund money needed by July 1, 2014 to fully fund Kentucky's pension system, which has only half the money it is projected to need to pay current and future retirees.
Yonts said his committee will vote Tuesday on the House's version of Senate Bill 2, the pension overhaul bill. The House Appropriations and Revenue Committee also will vote Tuesday on the lottery revenue bill, Yonts said.
House Speaker Greg Stumbo, D-Prestonsburg, said leaders thought changes to the lottery would be the most likely revenue-generating option to pass. Any proposal to raise revenue during the current 30-workday legislative session requires 60 votes to pass, which means Republican support is essential.
Stumbo said he hasn't yet talked to House Republicans about whether they will back the bill. There are 55 Democrats and 45 Republicans in the House.
The Senate passed its version of a pension overhaul bill earlier this month. Senate Bill 2 would move new employees into a 401(K)-type system and would eliminate automatic cost-of-living increases for new employees, among other things.
When will politicians learn that it is entirely possible to tax something to death? A sales tax on top of an already paid voluntary tax? How SCHTUPID can this democrat "leader" be?
They are doing revenue creation where ever they can find it now.
What idiots!
"Democrats propose taxing lottery tickets."
What a shock. Anyone surprised?
I think they should have a referendum on this after publishing all of the particulars about the government employees' pensions.
If adjustments have to be made, maybe those employees who voted themselves overly lavish pensions could help out the cause too instead of putting it all on the backs of lottery players. Let them sacrifice a little too. Let them be reasonable and take a little less instead of all of the lottery players paying more.
Like the Rolling Stones said, "You can't always get what you want."
eat the poor as usual.
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I guess this answers the question "How dumb can they be?"
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At one time Lottery winnings in Michigan were free of state income tax and then Michigan started taxing them.
If Michigan were to put a sales tax on tickets I can guess what would happen!
From a gambling standpoint, it's amazing they would even consider this. I understand the Democrats' desire to tax anything and everything in existence, but can they just stop for one second and realize that by making a lottery ticket cost $1.06 instead of $1.00, that they will throw off the entire cost-to-prize equation? Those long odds for winning, and the amount of money you win compared to the amount you spend, just got a lot worse.
It's as if every time you throw down a $10 bet at blackjack, you are forced to tip the dealer 60 cents. Is this getting through?
They will suck us all dry, enough is enough!
I hope the lottery players make a stand, if they don't, they deserve what they get.
Try that here Michigan, you will lose.
If the politicians in MY state DARE propose and pass such a tax, I will STOP playing the state lottery! Who's with me?
If they tax the tickets.............sales will drop by at least 10%.....................so the 6% tax will not be enough to make up for decreased sales.
I'm with you, that is just idiotic!! That is the day I would stop playing the lottery.
Instead of trying to locate and fix government waste (you know there's a lot of it) the lazy azzez just say hey let's tax something new.
They may have a 10% decrease in sales but the other 90% taxed at 6% will go into a different tax pool. A loss for the lottery revenue for what that went to but an increase in revenue for the pension pool.
Obviously increased tax revenue is more important than the lottery revenue after prize payouts.
Spending is not the problem, shortage of tax revenue is.
It's simple. Legalize and Tax the Kentucky BlueGrass. Leave the lotto players alone. They would make millions more.
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Stand up for yourself Kentucky, you deserve better, write the letters, make the phone calls, send e-mails, tell them, they are done walking all over you like your some kind of dirty rug.
Scream from the rooftops if you have to, they have taken enough from you, tell them no MORE!!!!!!!!!!
Does kentucky have any self service machines? The ones here don't give anything back, what ya put in you buy.
yes @ mightwin
I agree with wasted money in Lottery. The lottery provides money to education, the general fund, housing, and Vietnam veterans. If the state controls lottery why can't they take a certain percentage from those areas, let's say like 2% from them and use that to cover this. I'm not sure about KY but TN's lottey has money going to education but you have to maintain a certain GPA to maintain it. At one time the news had reported the state had a surplus of education benefits because people weren't maintaining the grades and were unqualified for it.
Does anyone know what the kentucky lottery's position is on this?
I dont play much now, add sales tax id probally quit!
I don't think they can openly voice a position. But I feel like this. ..if one state does it,.and gets away with it others will follow. Ky should just set up a 40lK styled pension system for NEW people and be done with it. I feel that the younger generation of folks will not be the kind to stay on a job for 30 years..they will have many jobs (short term)..and the 401K is transportable.
They know we will play no matter what. Its like shooting fish in a barrel, they know they cannot miss lol. I mean didn't they double Powerball ticket prizes and people went on with it? Our disconnection is our undoing.
Pretty sad.
gonna go out on a limb here and guess this guy proposing this is not a player.
Why would he need to play? Don't the people of Kentucky aleady pay. his salary?
In theory, that would be great. But unfortunately most people ignore what the politician does, and they vote based on whether the person has a "D" or "R" next to their name, or some other factor that is completely unrelated to job performance.
Ok I guess I should say the same to my employer, hey boss I have too many outgoing transactions in my bank acct I need a raise!
From the OP:
"House State Government Chairman Brent Yonts, D-Greenville, said adding a 6 percent sales tax on lottery games could generate about $49 million a year for the state."
Yo, Chairmon Yonts, no what it's going to do is generate a lotto of Kentucky dollars going into bordering states lotteries.
Typical display of no vision democrat tax and spend thinking.
Any history buffs out there? When do you think politicians started looking at the position as a career instead of what it was supposed to be? And when do you think people started thinking like todd describes above. Wouldn't it be great just to give them all the boot and start fresh.
What a bunch of buffoons! My sympathy goes to the fine Kentucky players.
So they want to tax it on the front end as well as the back end! A lottery tax sandwich...a lottery DP...there is not anything the Democrat's don't like to tax. At least the insertion will be lubed with KY. But I do like the switch to the 401k retirement plans, but what they need to do is CONVERT all existing pensions on every level of government to 401k plans. Why should public servants have better retirement plans than private sector workers?
Isn't Obama trying to get rid of the penny? If one ticket will cost $1.06, where will players get the penny? Oh, I see. They'll (government) just round it off to $1.10. Those Basstards!
Lol cuz you know they wouldn't be rounding it down to $1.05, so it would end up a 10% sales tax?!
All hail the penny!
Maybe gettin rid of the penny isn't a good idea
" Tax Sandwich" exactly!
I hope Kentucky Lottery players make their displeasure with these particular politicians known in future elections.
Out here in California its posted. " No sales Tax on lottery" If the lawmakers ever decided to reverse themselves on that, l think people would simply cut back on playing as much.
California is so revenue driven, if you miss paying for your car registration by one day-they tack on $50.00.
Of course that means they're dropping the 6% tax on winnings, right?
Yeah right...
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I seldom play Ky. anymore the way it is
And if they vote that in ......... it will be the end of me and them all together
And I am sure I am not the only player in Ky. that feels that way
The only way I can see taxing lottery tickets is like the Australians do it. Each ticket is $1.03 AUS but a jp winner pays no tax.
Savagegoose once explained this in one of his posts.
Shame on the KY Democratic House leaders.
A lottery ticket is already a 100% voluntary Tax on the players and all this will do is burden the players and the merchants alike with extra change handling in transactions.
The KY Democratic House leaders appears to have little on their table to the extents of developing such poor proposals to be added to the Bluegrass State lottery Rules.
Imposing an additional tax on lottery to fund the ailing pension system of the state maybe a good idea to create fund. However did they ever consider the decrease in sales because of the additional tax? People might refrain from buying tickets due to the additional tax.