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d1nnl2

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Oct 28, 2013, 8:38 am

Winning can have its complications. Cashing in a winning lottery ticket (if its not a BIG MM or PB jackpot) can make you cross certain thresholds that will disqualify you from certain benefits. Or it can complicate your tax liabilities, as it will sure cause your Adjusted Gross Income to rise.

The good news is the winning ticket is a prime commodity which can be resold very quickly at a discount. How much do you think is a fair discount?
RJOh

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Oct 28, 2013, 12:19 pm

Anyone buying winning lottery tickets at a discount is a crook and dealing with a crook make you a crook. And if you are a crook selling your winning lottery tickets so you can continue to collect benefits meant to help those who really need them then you are also a thief.

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
Jill34786

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Oct 28, 2013, 12:57 pm

About a year ago upon returning to my vehicle after grocery shopping, a lady approached me claiming she had a winning Florida Lotto ticket worth over $5000 and that she would be willing to sell it for $3000 cash. She stated that she was here illegally and was scared to go cash it at lottery headquarters. She even volunteered to go back inside Publix to validate the ticket. I felt she was being truthful but still denied her request as I had my child with me.

You hear about stories similar to this frequently where they actually set you up for a robbery. Apparently it didn't deter a nearby gentleman who had overheard her request. I saw both of them walking back toward the supermarket as I was pulling out of my parking space. I am fairly sure he went through with it but it wasn't worth my time or safety.

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Oct 28, 2013, 1:09 pm

Quote: Originally posted by d1nnl2 on Oct 28, 2013
Winning can have its complications. Cashing in a winning lottery ticket (if its not a BIG MM or PB jackpot) can make you cross certain thresholds that will disqualify you from certain benefits. Or it can complicate your tax liabilities, as it will sure cause your Adjusted Gross Income to rise.

The good news is the winning ticket is a prime commodity which can be resold very quickly at a discount. How much do you think is a fair discount?

LOL I would see no need to sell MY winning ticket....taxes or no taxes the money I would receive far outweighs me trying to dodge the I.R.S. and possibly being a millionaire in jail LOL
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Oct 28, 2013, 1:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Oct 28, 2013
Anyone buying winning lottery tickets at a discount is a crook and dealing with a crook make you a crook. And if you are a crook selling your winning lottery tickets so you can continue to collect benefits meant to help those who really need them then you are also a thief.

That's straight talk- which is True.
maringoman

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Oct 28, 2013, 6:00 pm

Last year around Christmas time I played el gordo raffle from Spain. Had I won I would have sold the win to someone without any shame. I don't think uncle sam should lay claim to it. I'd be willing to settle for 80% of the payout otherwise it wouldn't make sense to sell.

That money's gone fo ever
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Oct 28, 2013, 6:52 pm

I don't want to share a cell with Big Bertha....
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Oct 28, 2013, 7:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Oct 28, 2013
Anyone buying winning lottery tickets at a discount is a crook and dealing with a crook make you a crook. And if you are a crook selling your winning lottery tickets so you can continue to collect benefits meant to help those who really need them then you are also a thief.
RJOh

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Oct 28, 2013, 7:58 pm

Quote: Originally posted by maringoman on Oct 28, 2013
Last year around Christmas time I played el gordo raffle from Spain. Had I won I would have sold the win to someone without any shame. I don't think uncle sam should lay claim to it. I'd be willing to settle for 80% of the payout otherwise it wouldn't make sense to sell.

I assume when you say had you won you are talking about a prize that would have put you in the 30% tax bracket. What make you think someone would pay you more for a win than it would be worth if claimed legally?

* you don't need to buy every combination, just the winning ones *
dallascowboyfan

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Oct 28, 2013, 10:37 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Oct 28, 2013
I don't want to share a cell with Big Bertha....

Lol

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Oct 28, 2013, 11:07 pm

Never heard of that in the UK, we don't pay tax on tickets here tho so I doubt people would need to do it. Maybe they would if they got certain benifits or something I am not sure....

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Oct 28, 2013, 11:14 pm

Quote: Originally posted by JoshUK on Oct 28, 2013
Never heard of that in the UK, we don't pay tax on tickets here tho so I doubt people would need to do it. Maybe they would if they got certain benifits or something I am not sure....

Half the country doesn't work here and the other half has to feed them.

It's a delicate balance.
maringoman

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Oct 29, 2013, 7:47 am

Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on Oct 28, 2013
I assume when you say had you won you are talking about a prize that would have put you in the 30% tax bracket. What make you think someone would pay you more for a win than it would be worth if claimed legally?

You have to remember that they don't tax lottery winnings overseas. If the jp was €100,000 the buyer would get €20,000 for the hustle. I think there's plenty of people who would be willing to take that offer today. What would be tough is how to execute the deal and come out unscathed.

That money's gone fo ever
JackpotWanna

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Oct 29, 2013, 12:46 pm

Say no thank you. Most likely a scam.
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Oct 29, 2013, 6:30 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Jill34786 on Oct 28, 2013
About a year ago upon returning to my vehicle after grocery shopping, a lady approached me claiming she had a winning Florida Lotto ticket worth over $5000 and that she would be willing to sell it for $3000 cash. She stated that she was here illegally and was scared to go cash it at lottery headquarters. She even volunteered to go back inside Publix to validate the ticket. I felt she was being truthful but still denied her request as I had my child with me.

You hear about stories similar to this frequently where they actually set you up for a robbery. Apparently it didn't deter a nearby gentleman who had overheard her request. I saw both of them walking back toward the supermarket as I was pulling out of my parking space. I am fairly sure he went through with it but it wasn't worth my time or safety.

they where working together, its a tried and tested scam. some offers to sell you something at a good price, then a " 3rd un related party " joins in and offers to do the deal. yuo feeling that you might miss out jump in and take the deal, only to find you lost your money. some times its fake jewel, sometimes its a ticket or a pile of forign cash , rare stamps, , i forget the exact details. but i read about this exact same scam a fair few years ago.

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