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Coin Toss

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Nov 14, 2013, 6:19 pm

Just for conversation (and to entertain the lottery official lurkers) let's say the MM with a 75 number top matrix never gets hit, that is never pays out a jackpot. The jackpots build but no one ever hits one so at that point the matrix is reduced (has that ever happened with any game?)

If that were the case, would you trust MM and would you still play it?

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Nov 14, 2013, 6:52 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 14, 2013
Just for conversation (and to entertain the lottery official lurkers) let's say the MM with a 75 number top matrix never gets hit, that is never pays out a jackpot. The jackpots build but no one ever hits one so at that point the matrix is reduced (has that ever happened with any game?)

If that were the case, would you trust MM and would you still play it?

I think at some point, it should trigger a new game, with fewer numbers so many more can have a chance to split the prize. I don't think its good to give some one a Billion Dollars, assuming its a single ticket from a single owner.

Something like the Spanish raffle, Gorditas (?), where people can buy shares from a single number. I don't know exactly how it works but I think the goal is to spread the wealth.
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Nov 14, 2013, 7:02 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 14, 2013
Just for conversation (and to entertain the lottery official lurkers) let's say the MM with a 75 number top matrix never gets hit, that is never pays out a jackpot. The jackpots build but no one ever hits one so at that point the matrix is reduced (has that ever happened with any game?)

If that were the case, would you trust MM and would you still play it?

I thought they did the change so that they could get huge jackpots... Wouldn't reducing the matrix be an admission of their stupidity? I don't think they'll reduce the matrix. Not even if this thing reaches two-billion.
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Nov 14, 2013, 7:21 pm

I wonder how many draws it would take to hit a two billion dollar jackpot?
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Nov 14, 2013, 7:41 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Saylorgirl on Nov 14, 2013
I wonder how many draws it would take to hit a two billion dollar jackpot?

Maybe they can raise the drawing frequency. Just like slots, if you pull the lever faster or like the players in a slot tourney, press the button faster, you might hit the jackpot earlier.
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Nov 14, 2013, 7:45 pm

SLOYAROLE,

It's obvious they're going for jackpot 'bragging rights' but if by doing so they made the game unhittable, not the best idea.

Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners.

There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.
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Nov 14, 2013, 7:49 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 14, 2013
SLOYAROLE,

It's obvious they're going for jackpot 'bragging rights' but if by doing so they made the game unhittable, not the best idea.

Today, MM is like playing BINGO with 2 B's, BBINGO! Crazy!
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Nov 14, 2013, 8:05 pm

Quite honestly, I don't see the appeal in MM with this new matrix. To each his own, I guess. My threshold for draw games used be 100 million before I contributed a few dollars. Now, I'm guessing I can move that threshold to 300 million for this game.
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Nov 14, 2013, 8:06 pm

Someone from the last drawing matched the 5 numbers without the mega ball. Plus there was 29 winners who matched 4 numbers plus the mega ball. So it's just a matter of time before someone gets all six.
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Nov 14, 2013, 8:27 pm

I'd still play one line. I used to play two. And if they went to two bucks, I'd probably stop playing it.

I'm one of the seemingly few who aren't mesmerized by humongous jackpots.

I prefer having a lot better chance at a lot less money.

But I'll still take a shot in the dark at it for a buck (actually $2 with the megaplier).

But no more than that.
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Nov 14, 2013, 8:57 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 14, 2013
Just for conversation (and to entertain the lottery official lurkers) let's say the MM with a 75 number top matrix never gets hit, that is never pays out a jackpot. The jackpots build but no one ever hits one so at that point the matrix is reduced (has that ever happened with any game?)

If that were the case, would you trust MM and would you still play it?

Selling less than 20 millions tickets per drawing so far, MM hasn't had a real test. When its jackpot gets up around a half billion, it will be selling enough tickets per drawing to really test how hard it is to win. I'll be surprised if it gets that high before being won.

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Nov 14, 2013, 10:31 pm

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on Nov 14, 2013
I'd still play one line. I used to play two. And if they went to two bucks, I'd probably stop playing it.

I'm one of the seemingly few who aren't mesmerized by humongous jackpots.

I prefer having a lot better chance at a lot less money.

But I'll still take a shot in the dark at it for a buck (actually $2 with the megaplier).

But no more than that.

These monstrous jackpots may seem appealing to many- but in all sincerity, how much does one " Need" to survive, be self sufficient, help family and friends and not end up broke? It seems the more we read of persons winning a large jackpot- the sooner we hear sad stories of persons unable to control their spending habits and end up on the front page of LP.

Like Ridge- l play 1 line or 2.- the odds are astronomical to begin with so putting down $10 plus is insane. (imo).. unless one is willing to be counted among the many millions of losers out there... which is not optional.
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Nov 14, 2013, 11:28 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 14, 2013
Just for conversation (and to entertain the lottery official lurkers) let's say the MM with a 75 number top matrix never gets hit, that is never pays out a jackpot. The jackpots build but no one ever hits one so at that point the matrix is reduced (has that ever happened with any game?)

If that were the case, would you trust MM and would you still play it?

I like this question. Even though I feel that by the time it reaches $1B, or close to it, there will be so many people playng that it's bound it hit at least one number combo on a ticket purchased, I still think making a game hard to win even harder is a turn off. I used to buy MM when the odds of winning were the same as PB because the price was less. Two tickets for every 1 PB made more sense. But I'd rather pay the 2 bucks and have a better chance of winning. I won't be playing MM until the jp is huge. We know the lottery is a rip off, but now, MM seems more calculated about ripping me off. I don't like that.
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Nov 14, 2013, 11:44 pm

Quote: Originally posted by Coin Toss on Nov 14, 2013
Just for conversation (and to entertain the lottery official lurkers) let's say the MM with a 75 number top matrix never gets hit, that is never pays out a jackpot. The jackpots build but no one ever hits one so at that point the matrix is reduced (has that ever happened with any game?)

If that were the case, would you trust MM and would you still play it?

It will always get hit.

There is a good chance "they" will just program their lottery terminals to spit out a winning QP.

After all the majority of people play quick picks.

If the Jackpot doesn get hit, they are gonna reduce the matrix? Are you nuts? We just go on until Warren Buffet says, "Yes, I think this is a good investment, and I will do a BIG WHEEL NOW!!!!"

Then he hits it...

Problem solved.

P.S.

I don't really trust MM now. (Although I am not a paranoid conspiracy theorist.)

(At least when it comes to lottery)

P.P.S.

I dont think you reduce the matrix. They would rather kill the game and offer something new. (I suppose anyway)

Maybe do away with MM altogether and just raise the price of PB to $4.
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Nov 15, 2013, 9:29 am

Quote: Originally posted by d1nnl2 on Nov 14, 2013
I think at some point, it should trigger a new game, with fewer numbers so many more can have a chance to split the prize. I don't think its good to give some one a Billion Dollars, assuming its a single ticket from a single owner.

Something like the Spanish raffle, Gorditas (?), where people can buy shares from a single number. I don't know exactly how it works but I think the goal is to spread the wealth.

I agree. Lottery players will keep spending money on Mega Millions until the jackpot reaches $1 BILLION.$1 Mega Millions Quick Pick Ticket will win it all.

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