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I need some input. Okay heres the dilema or at least in my mind. There is a guy on youtube who claims he has a system and he does hit. From his videos his "system" entails a pyramid. When I first seen it I said to myself I seen this before because a girl that use to post here done something similar. This made me want to look into this more, so I decided to view his subscriptions and there it was he was subcribed to her channel after further looking I seen that he was subscribed to some other pyramid channel based on numerology. Any ways I been watching him for some time now because he is really entertaining but here is the thing yesterday he posted a video saying to check out his facebook page so I went to his fb page. I sawother members detailing how they come up with their numbers. I took a copy of it, studied it learned it then tried to see if I can repeat what I saw and the reults were pretty amazing. Which leaves me here, I want to share this method here, I feel like a good group of us can crack this thing opne if it has promise but the thing is I feel like I am stealing, reason being because he is selling this. Even though I am sure he lifted this from this girl here. I seen one of here post talking to harvestmoon. but anyway I want to share but am afraid of the karma, if this is indeed wrong. Ive been debating back and forth in my head if this is okay, to go ahead and post all day. I know if I had a system in which I was selling and someone leaked it for free I would be pissed, so I dont want to do that if thatss the case. I keep telling myself it doesnt count because the ideas werent his but it might not be my place to call. So should I post or not. Forgive me for any typos or misspellings I am on my broken ipad
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Chrissy, in my "personal" opinion, it is not illegal. You can't trademark or copyright number picking and unless he invented some sort of a patentable (machine or computer program) device, it is open for grabs. (just refer to it with a new name...Chrissy's system). And back engineering a system is not bad karma unless you signed some sort of an agreement not to disclose, etc. IDEAS are not subject to any protection (and I know I have harped on this before...lol).
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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Nov 26, 2013
Chrissy, in my "personal" opinion, it is not illegal. You can't trademark or copyright number picking and unless he invented some sort of a patentable (machine or computer program) device, it is open for grabs. (just refer to it with a new name...Chrissy's system). And back engineering a system is not bad karma unless you signed some sort of an agreement not to disclose, etc. IDEAS are not subject to any protection (and I know I have harped on this before...lol).
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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Nov 26, 2013
Chrissy, in my "personal" opinion, it is not illegal. You can't trademark or copyright number picking and unless he invented some sort of a patentable (machine or computer program) device, it is open for grabs. (just refer to it with a new name...Chrissy's system). And back engineering a system is not bad karma unless you signed some sort of an agreement not to disclose, etc. IDEAS are not subject to any protection (and I know I have harped on this before...lol).
I know it isn't illegal. I was just kind of thinking that its wrong to do so. Anyways, I am not trying to take it, I will give full credit where credit is due. By the way ideas I do think should have protections. I guess you never seen Flash of Genius.
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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Nov 26, 2013
Chrissy, in my "personal" opinion, it is not illegal. You can't trademark or copyright number picking and unless he invented some sort of a patentable (machine or computer program) device, it is open for grabs. (just refer to it with a new name...Chrissy's system). And back engineering a system is not bad karma unless you signed some sort of an agreement not to disclose, etc. IDEAS are not subject to any protection (and I know I have harped on this before...lol).
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Quote: Originally posted by chrissy16 on Nov 26, 2013
I know it isn't illegal. I was just kind of thinking that its wrong to do so. Anyways, I am not trying to take it, I will give full credit where credit is due. By the way ideas I do think should have protections. I guess you never seen Flash of Genius.
ok....I have and that is a very old legal standard that did not last too long since it was too difficult to enforce and prove. Enforcing protections for an idea alone is impossible. It would bring intellectual property to a standstill.
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Quote: Originally posted by Artist77 on Nov 26, 2013
Chrissy, in my "personal" opinion, it is not illegal. You can't trademark or copyright number picking and unless he invented some sort of a patentable (machine or computer program) device, it is open for grabs. (just refer to it with a new name...Chrissy's system). And back engineering a system is not bad karma unless you signed some sort of an agreement not to disclose, etc. IDEAS are not subject to any protection (and I know I have harped on this before...lol).
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1. if it works then the person you got it from should be hitting also. No bad Karma,,,unless the reaper calls you after you hit, but you can tip the guy. Good deed eliminates Karma
2. if it doesn't work then::: A) the karma got you....
B) it doesn't work...but in your head you'll blame the Karma
Tough choice....
"Everybody has to believe insomething...I believe I'll have another beer!" = W.C.Fields
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Quote: Originally posted by chrissy16 on Nov 26, 2013
I need some input. Okay heres the dilema or at least in my mind. There is a guy on youtube who claims he has a system and he does hit. From his videos his "system" entails a pyramid. When I first seen it I said to myself I seen this before because a girl that use to post here done something similar. This made me want to look into this more, so I decided to view his subscriptions and there it was he was subcribed to her channel after further looking I seen that he was subscribed to some other pyramid channel based on numerology. Any ways I been watching him for some time now because he is really entertaining but here is the thing yesterday he posted a video saying to check out his facebook page so I went to his fb page. I sawother members detailing how they come up with their numbers. I took a copy of it, studied it learned it then tried to see if I can repeat what I saw and the reults were pretty amazing. Which leaves me here, I want to share this method here, I feel like a good group of us can crack this thing opne if it has promise but the thing is I feel like I am stealing, reason being because he is selling this. Even though I am sure he lifted this from this girl here. I seen one of here post talking to harvestmoon. but anyway I want to share but am afraid of the karma, if this is indeed wrong. Ive been debating back and forth in my head if this is okay, to go ahead and post all day. I know if I had a system in which I was selling and someone leaked it for free I would be pissed, so I dont want to do that if thatss the case. I keep telling myself it doesnt count because the ideas werent his but it might not be my place to call. So should I post or not. Forgive me for any typos or misspellings I am on my broken ipad
This is a tough choice. It may be perfectly legal to share it, but the fact that you're asking for other peoples "approval" to
share it, suggests that you have misgivings about sharing it. If you didn't, you would have already posted it. Follow your
conscience. If it tells you not to, then don't do it. I have been through the same situation. The only difference was I
purchased it from the person. It was for the pick 3, but I tweaked it to use for the pick 4 and had better results. I thought
about contacting the person to get his permission to share it for the pick 4, because I felt it was his system. But I didn't, and
I ultimately decided to keep it to myself. It's your decision, so do what you feel is right.
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Quote: Originally posted by chrissy16 on Nov 26, 2013
I need some input. Okay heres the dilema or at least in my mind. There is a guy on youtube who claims he has a system and he does hit. From his videos his "system" entails a pyramid. When I first seen it I said to myself I seen this before because a girl that use to post here done something similar. This made me want to look into this more, so I decided to view his subscriptions and there it was he was subcribed to her channel after further looking I seen that he was subscribed to some other pyramid channel based on numerology. Any ways I been watching him for some time now because he is really entertaining but here is the thing yesterday he posted a video saying to check out his facebook page so I went to his fb page. I sawother members detailing how they come up with their numbers. I took a copy of it, studied it learned it then tried to see if I can repeat what I saw and the reults were pretty amazing. Which leaves me here, I want to share this method here, I feel like a good group of us can crack this thing opne if it has promise but the thing is I feel like I am stealing, reason being because he is selling this. Even though I am sure he lifted this from this girl here. I seen one of here post talking to harvestmoon. but anyway I want to share but am afraid of the karma, if this is indeed wrong. Ive been debating back and forth in my head if this is okay, to go ahead and post all day. I know if I had a system in which I was selling and someone leaked it for free I would be pissed, so I dont want to do that if thatss the case. I keep telling myself it doesnt count because the ideas werent his but it might not be my place to call. So should I post or not. Forgive me for any typos or misspellings I am on my broken ipad
I know if I had a system in which I was selling and someone leaked it for free I would be pissed,
so I dont want to do that if that's the case.(So why ask if it's Ok to leak his?)
I keep telling myself it doesnt count because the ideas werent his but it might not be my place to call.
(That's you trying to convince yourself it's alright to reveal someone else's system.
You don't know 100% for sure where he got his system from unless you ask him).
I say no if he indeed lifted it off of a member here than the method by which those people
came up with their numbers should already be here on LP for free, if not you should purchase it.
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Quote: Originally posted by New York on Nov 29, 2013
Chrissy, share it. We make an okay team and we work together really well.
He already gave hundreds of viewers his secrets on YouTube. There's no harm in sharing his ideas with others. That's what he intended to do.
Just give credit where it's due. Acknowledge.
They're just ideas and workouts. You can use it as examples for us to learn.
It's good karma. What goes around, comes around.
If you share this with us, you'll return 10x fold. And, to be safe to protect yourself. Buy his system or something.
Sorry for these comments. It's thanksgiving, drunk, and desperate for some new lottery ideas. Lol.
1.) It was on YouTube and is in the public domain (unless it is patented, copyrighted, etc. and it is very unlikely it would qualify). Note I am talking about the idea, not the right to use to distribute the video which is covered by copyright laws.
2.) Giving "credit" to this guy could cause you problems.
3.) It is no different that all the others who post systems in LP and people try them and then tinker with them. I don't see a moral issue on any level.
4.) But, my philosophy in life is if I am on the fence about doing something, then I do not do it.
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Quote: Originally posted by chrissy16 on Nov 26, 2013
I need some input. Okay heres the dilema or at least in my mind. There is a guy on youtube who claims he has a system and he does hit. From his videos his "system" entails a pyramid. When I first seen it I said to myself I seen this before because a girl that use to post here done something similar. This made me want to look into this more, so I decided to view his subscriptions and there it was he was subcribed to her channel after further looking I seen that he was subscribed to some other pyramid channel based on numerology. Any ways I been watching him for some time now because he is really entertaining but here is the thing yesterday he posted a video saying to check out his facebook page so I went to his fb page. I sawother members detailing how they come up with their numbers. I took a copy of it, studied it learned it then tried to see if I can repeat what I saw and the reults were pretty amazing. Which leaves me here, I want to share this method here, I feel like a good group of us can crack this thing opne if it has promise but the thing is I feel like I am stealing, reason being because he is selling this. Even though I am sure he lifted this from this girl here. I seen one of here post talking to harvestmoon. but anyway I want to share but am afraid of the karma, if this is indeed wrong. Ive been debating back and forth in my head if this is okay, to go ahead and post all day. I know if I had a system in which I was selling and someone leaked it for free I would be pissed, so I dont want to do that if thatss the case. I keep telling myself it doesnt count because the ideas werent his but it might not be my place to call. So should I post or not. Forgive me for any typos or misspellings I am on my broken ipad
Not saying, yes or no. If it is a pyramid, called Powertrails, I think BobP from Lotto-Logic has one posted here. Might be the same.