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• House Edge

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  I can't believe the New York Lottery yanked Sweet Million, and replaced it with this trash Cash4Life game. Lets compare this at a $1 game draw. Sweet Million was $1 play. Cash4life is $2 play. To make this even, we multiply the odds of Cash4Life by 2. Sweet Million stays the same since its already a $1 play. As you can see chart (A) is Sweet Million $1 play, chart (B) is Cash4Life $1 play, and chart (C) is the current Cash4Life $2 play.

  Don't be fooled by odds. $1 and $2 tickets can really add up. Since Sweet Million was 1: 3,838,380 at $1 a play, if you spend another $1 for a ticket for same draw new odds would be 1: 1,919,190.

  Wow prize level and odds fever Sweet Million over Cash4Life by a long shot. 

  Lets compare top prize Based on $1 play

  Sweet Million

  Prize $1,000,000

  Odds 1: 3,838,880

  Cash4Life (Second Prize)

  Prize $1,000 A Week For Life Minimum 20 years ($1,0400,00)

  Odds 1: 14,564,032

  Now Lets see top Prize on Cash4life  Based on $1 play (First Prize)

  Prize $1,000 a day for life Minimum 20 years ($7,300,000)

  Odds 1: 43,692,096

  Also remember this is a minimum of 20 years. Inflation kicks in making 

  I should mention for Sweet Million per draw. In the event that there are more than 5 jackpot winners, those winners will share a jackpot of $5,000,000. So that means If a person wagers $5 on the same set of numbers they win $5,000,000. The odds will remain the same since its per draw 1: 3,838,380 to win $5,000,000 on a $5 pay. Way better than Cash4life at 1: 43, 692,096 to win $7,300,000

  The first year Sweet Million came out in 2009 it did $113,828,312 total sales. That's $1,094,503 per draw. The game has been declining every year.  New York Lottery says game was under performing. Its true Mega Millions, Powerball, Lotto, Take5, Numbers, Win4, and Quick Draw had better and stronger sales then Sweet Million. But Not Pick 10 which is a daily game. According to New York Lottery Year End Review March 31,2013- March 31, 2014 Sweet Million had $32,565,223 total sales , compared that to Pick 10 $29,392,975 total sales.  Sweet Million had about $313,127 sales per draw. Pick 10 had $80,527 sales per draw. I don't understand why Pick 10 wasn't the one replaced not Sweet Million. Sweet Million outsold Pick 10 by $3,172,248. With this pace it would take Pick 10, 40 more draws to match Sweet Millions Total Sales. Again Pick 10 is a daily game Monday-Sunday, Sweet Million 2 draws a week Mondays and Thursdays. Total sales return rate in 2009- 2014 on Sweet Million has been decreasing by -20.42% yearly 

  Other Lottery Games Total Sales  (Only New York Lottery)

  Sweet Million  $32,565,223         (Per Draw 313,127)

  Pick 10           $29,392,975        (Per Draw $80529

  Mega Millions  $400,480,172      (Per Draw 3,850,771)

  Powerball       $462,974,149      (Per Draw 4,451,675)

  Lotto              $94,563,150       (Per Draw 909,261)

  Numbers        $873,844,669     (Draw $2,394,095)

  Win 4             $831,155,301     (Per Draw $2,277,138) 

  Take 5            $256,070,993    (Per Draw $701,564)

  Quick Draw    $654,158,023     (Per Draw $1,792,214) 

  I would say the average age of lottery players is between late 30's early 40's. With the minimum payout of Cash4Life 20 years for second prize of 1,000 a week for life, even if the person lives for 60 years inflation plays a big roll including federal tax and state tax. 60 years would be $3,120,000. Inflation is at 2.1%. If it stays at 2.1% for 60 years of your $3,120,000 and after inflation it would be $10,856,732.05. Which is amount of money that you need in 60 years to match the purchasing power of $10,856,732.05. This means if if you where buy something for $3,120,000 in 2014 it would cost you $10,856,732.05 in 2074. As for federal and state taxes those remain to be seen. One thing is 
  

  Im puzzled and amazed how Sweet Million with the best odds of winning a $1,000,00 for $1 is second to dead last in total sales. It couldn't even topple over $100,000,00 in total sales. How Take 5 did more sales is beyond me. Take 5 jackpots does not increase per draw its a parimutuel basis. Jackpot are in the $50,000-$70,000 range, with most of the time splitting. 
  

  I'm lead to believe the average lottery player has no clue of the odds or the prize level of the game there purchasing. And I still think Sweet Million should replace Pick 10 as a daily game. It can exceed well over $100,000,000 in total yearly sales. Reason is if Sweet Million was daily it would have to sale $273,973 per draw, rather then twice a week at $961,538 per draw. 

  All I want Is my Sweet Million Back!

  (A) Sweet Million $1

  NUMBERS MATCHED	PRIZE*	CHANCES OF WINNING
  6 out of 6	$1,000,000 Cash	1 in: 3,838,380
  5 out of 6	$500.00 Cash	1 in: 18,815.59
  4 out of 6	$40.00 Cash	1 in: 456
  3 out of 6	$3.00 Cash	1 in: 32

   

  (B) Cash4Life $1

  PRIZE LEVEL	WINNING NUMBERS MATCHED PER GAME	CHANCES OF WINNING PER GAME	PRIZE
  First	5 + Cash Ball	1 in: 43,692,096	$1,000 a day for Life
  Second	5	1 in: 14,564,032	$1,000 a week for Life
  Third	4 + Cash Ball	1 in: 158,800	$2,500
  Fourth	4	1 in: 56,960	$500
  Fifth	3 + Cash Ball	1 in: 2,942	$100
  Sixth	3	1 in: 980	$25
  Seventh	2 + Cash Ball	1 in: 166	$10
  Eighth	2	1 in: 56	$4
  Ninth	1 + Cash Ball	1 in: 26	$2

     

  (C) Cash4Life $2 

  PRIZE LEVEL	WINNING NUMBERS MATCHED PER GAME	CHANCES OF WINNING PER GAME	PRIZE
  First	5 + Cash Ball	1 in: 21,846,048	$1,000 a day for Life
  Second	5	1 in: 7,282,016	$1,000 a week for Life
  Third	4 + Cash Ball	1 in: 79,440	$2,500
  Fourth	4	1 in: 26,480	$500
  Fifth	3 + Cash Ball	1 in: 1,471	$100
  Sixth	3	1 in: 490	$25
  Seventh	2 + Cash Ball	1 in: 83	$10
  Eighth	2	1 in: 28	$4
  Ninth	1 + Cash Ball	1 in: 13	$2

   

  Sweet Million 

  First Draw Thursday September 17, 2009 

  Last Draw Thursday June, 12, 2014

  Number Of $1,00,000 Winners 43
• wallyjay

  

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  I can't believe the New York Lottery yanked Sweet Million, and replaced it with this trash Cash4Life game. Lets compare this at a $1 game draw. Sweet Million was $1 play. Cash4life is $2 play. To make this even, we multiply the odds of Cash4Life by 2. Sweet Million stays the same since its already a $1 play. As you can see chart (A) is Sweet Million $1 play, chart (B) is Cash4Life $1 play, and chart (C) is the current Cash4Life $2 play.

  Don't be fooled by odds. $1 and $2 tickets can really add up. Since Sweet Million was 1: 3,838,380 at $1 a play, if you spend another $1 for a ticket for same draw new odds would be 1: 1,919,190.

  Wow prize level and odds fever Sweet Million over Cash4Life by a long shot. 

  Lets compare top prize Based on $1 play

  Sweet Million

  Prize $1,000,000

  Odds 1: 3,838,880

  Cash4Life (Second Prize)

  Prize $1,000 A Week For Life Minimum 20 years ($1,0400,00)

  Odds 1: 14,564,032

  Now Lets see top Prize on Cash4life  Based on $1 play (First Prize)

  Prize $1,000 a day for life Minimum 20 years ($7,300,000)

  Odds 1: 43,692,096

  Also remember this is a minimum of 20 years. Inflation kicks in making 

  I should mention for Sweet Million per draw. In the event that there are more than 5 jackpot winners, those winners will share a jackpot of $5,000,000. So that means If a person wagers $5 on the same set of numbers they win $5,000,000. The odds will remain the same since its per draw 1: 3,838,380 to win $5,000,000 on a $5 pay. Way better than Cash4life at 1: 43, 692,096 to win $7,300,000

  The first year Sweet Million came out in 2009 it did $113,828,312 total sales. That's $1,094,503 per draw. The game has been declining every year.  New York Lottery says game was under performing. Its true Mega Millions, Powerball, Lotto, Take5, Numbers, Win4, and Quick Draw had better and stronger sales then Sweet Million. But Not Pick 10 which is a daily game. According to New York Lottery Year End Review March 31,2013- March 31, 2014 Sweet Million had $32,565,223 total sales , compared that to Pick 10 $29,392,975 total sales.  Sweet Million had about $313,127 sales per draw. Pick 10 had $80,527 sales per draw. I don't understand why Pick 10 wasn't the one replaced not Sweet Million. Sweet Million outsold Pick 10 by $3,172,248. With this pace it would take Pick 10, 40 more draws to match Sweet Millions Total Sales. Again Pick 10 is a daily game Monday-Sunday, Sweet Million 2 draws a week Mondays and Thursdays. Total sales return rate in 2009- 2014 on Sweet Million has been decreasing by -20.42% yearly 

  Other Lottery Games Total Sales  (Only New York Lottery)

  Sweet Million  $32,565,223         (Per Draw 313,127)

  Pick 10           $29,392,975        (Per Draw $80529

  Mega Millions  $400,480,172      (Per Draw 3,850,771)

  Powerball       $462,974,149      (Per Draw 4,451,675)

  Lotto              $94,563,150       (Per Draw 909,261)

  Numbers        $873,844,669     (Draw $2,394,095)

  Win 4             $831,155,301     (Per Draw $2,277,138) 

  Take 5            $256,070,993    (Per Draw $701,564)

  Quick Draw    $654,158,023     (Per Draw $1,792,214) 

  I would say the average age of lottery players is between late 30's early 40's. With the minimum payout of Cash4Life 20 years for second prize of 1,000 a week for life, even if the person lives for 60 years inflation plays a big roll including federal tax and state tax. 60 years would be $3,120,000. Inflation is at 2.1%. If it stays at 2.1% for 60 years of your $3,120,000 and after inflation it would be $10,856,732.05. Which is amount of money that you need in 60 years to match the purchasing power of $10,856,732.05. This means if if you where buy something for $3,120,000 in 2014 it would cost you $10,856,732.05 in 2074. As for federal and state taxes those remain to be seen. One thing is 
  

  Im puzzled and amazed how Sweet Million with the best odds of winning a $1,000,00 for $1 is second to dead last in total sales. It couldn't even topple over $100,000,00 in total sales. How Take 5 did more sales is beyond me. Take 5 jackpots does not increase per draw its a parimutuel basis. Jackpot are in the $50,000-$70,000 range, with most of the time splitting. 
  

  I'm lead to believe the average lottery player has no clue of the odds or the prize level of the game there purchasing. And I still think Sweet Million should replace Pick 10 as a daily game. It can exceed well over $100,000,000 in total yearly sales. Reason is if Sweet Million was daily it would have to sale $273,973 per draw, rather then twice a week at $961,538 per draw. 

  All I want Is my Sweet Million Back!

  (A) Sweet Million $1

  NUMBERS MATCHED	PRIZE*	CHANCES OF WINNING
  6 out of 6	$1,000,000 Cash	1 in: 3,838,380
  5 out of 6	$500.00 Cash	1 in: 18,815.59
  4 out of 6	$40.00 Cash	1 in: 456
  3 out of 6	$3.00 Cash	1 in: 32

   

  (B) Cash4Life $1

  PRIZE LEVEL	WINNING NUMBERS MATCHED PER GAME	CHANCES OF WINNING PER GAME	PRIZE
  First	5 + Cash Ball	1 in: 43,692,096	$1,000 a day for Life
  Second	5	1 in: 14,564,032	$1,000 a week for Life
  Third	4 + Cash Ball	1 in: 158,800	$2,500
  Fourth	4	1 in: 56,960	$500
  Fifth	3 + Cash Ball	1 in: 2,942	$100
  Sixth	3	1 in: 980	$25
  Seventh	2 + Cash Ball	1 in: 166	$10
  Eighth	2	1 in: 56	$4
  Ninth	1 + Cash Ball	1 in: 26	$2

     

  (C) Cash4Life $2 

  PRIZE LEVEL	WINNING NUMBERS MATCHED PER GAME	CHANCES OF WINNING PER GAME	PRIZE
  First	5 + Cash Ball	1 in: 21,846,048	$1,000 a day for Life
  Second	5	1 in: 7,282,016	$1,000 a week for Life
  Third	4 + Cash Ball	1 in: 79,440	$2,500
  Fourth	4	1 in: 26,480	$500
  Fifth	3 + Cash Ball	1 in: 1,471	$100
  Sixth	3	1 in: 490	$25
  Seventh	2 + Cash Ball	1 in: 83	$10
  Eighth	2	1 in: 28	$4
  Ninth	1 + Cash Ball	1 in: 13	$2

   

  Sweet Million 

  First Draw Thursday September 17, 2009 

  Last Draw Thursday June, 12, 2014

  Number Of $1,00,000 Winners 43

  I'm lead to believe the average lottery player has no clue of the odds or the prize level of the game there purchasing. And I still think Sweet Million should replace Pick 10 as a daily game. It can exceed well over $100,000,000 in total yearly sales. Reason is if Sweet Million was daily it would have to sale $273,973 per draw, rather then twice a week at $961,538 per draw. 

   

  Must agree completely with these statements, especially the first.  Maybe they will use this as a way to bring back Sweet Million with a big campaign to spur new interest.

  And today I purchased $10 dollars QP on one ticket of C4L and every bottom number came out a 4.
• SaintAndiesPl

  

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  Nobody was buying Sweet Million... it was under performing.. I know the odds are bad for Cash For Life but just the thought of winning a  1000 a day for life is worth buying every now and then. I hardly bought Sweet million...

  It Takes More Than a Dollar and a Dream :)
• mediabrat

  

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  A chance at a million for just $1 is indeed enticing, but lottery players quickly figured out that the all the other prizes were GARBAGE.  It didn't help that barely anyone ever won the million.  Also, why would New Yorkers play Sweet Million when that same dollar gets you a chance at a minimum of $15 million (Mega Millions) or TWO chances at a minimum of $2 million (Lotto)?

  Cash4Life's odds may be worse, but the prize structure from top to bottom is more attractive to your average player.  There's something about "$1,000 a day for life" that sounds better than "one million dollars", especially since it only takes a little under 3 years of $1K a day to reach a million.  You can even accumulate $1M with the second prize if you live long enough (about 19 years and 3 months).  Frankly, your average player doesn't care so much about odds as they do about the prizes.

  Sweet Million was a good game in concept, but the execution was terrible.  I think it would have performed better if the other prizes were $5000/$400/$30/$2 rather than $500/$40/$3.
• House Edge

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  Quote: Originally posted by mediabrat on Jul 4, 2014

  A chance at a million for just $1 is indeed enticing, but lottery players quickly figured out that the all the other prizes were GARBAGE.  It didn't help that barely anyone ever won the million.  Also, why would New Yorkers play Sweet Million when that same dollar gets you a chance at a minimum of $15 million (Mega Millions) or TWO chances at a minimum of $2 million (Lotto)?

  Cash4Life's odds may be worse, but the prize structure from top to bottom is more attractive to your average player.  There's something about "$1,000 a day for life" that sounds better than "one million dollars", especially since it only takes a little under 3 years of $1K a day to reach a million.  You can even accumulate $1M with the second prize if you live long enough (about 19 years and 3 months).  Frankly, your average player doesn't care so much about odds as they do about the prizes.

  Sweet Million was a good game in concept, but the execution was terrible.  I think it would have performed better if the other prizes were $5000/$400/$30/$2 rather than $500/$40/$3.

  Your one of many other players who can't compare odds. You say "why would New Yorkers play Sweet Million when that same dollar gets you a chance at a minimum of $15 million (Mega Millions) or TWO chances at a minimum of $2 million (Lotto)? Well you say $15 million im guessing you mean jackpot after its reset. Wow have you seen the odds on the new Mega Million game 1: 258,890,850. Your odds of winning Sweet Million is 67 times better than winning Mega Millions Jackpot. And New York Lotto have the worst odds on payouts 1: 22,528,737for $2,00,000. Other payouts are bad

  You also mention Sweet Million was a good game in concept, but the execution was terrible.  I think it would have performed better if the other prizes were $5000/$400/$30/$2 rather than $500/$40/$3.  Check Mega Millions 1 in: 52,835 to win $500, Sweet Million 1: 18,816. You see the rest. Don't talk out of hand you know nothing about odds or payouts. People buy more tickets of Mega Millions because the Jackpot reaches $ millions a year and for a $1 why not don't complain of the odds on Sweet Millions and payouts.

   

  Sweet Million

  NUMBERS MATCHED	PRIZE*	CHANCES OF WINNING
  6 out of 6	$1,000,000 Cash	1 in: 3,838,380
  5 out of 6	$500.00 Cash	1 in: 18,816
  4 out of 6	$40.00 Cash	1 in: 456
  3 out of 6	$3.00 Cash	1 in: 32

   

  Mega Millions

  PRIZE LEVEL	WINNING NUMBERS MATCHED PER GAME	CHANCES OF WINNING PER GAME	PRIZE
  First	5 + Mega Ball	1 in: 258,890,850	JACKPOT*
  Second	5	1 in: 18,492,204	$1,000,000
  Fourth	4	1 in: 52,835	$500
  Fifth	3 + Mega Ball	1 in: 10,720	$50
  Sixth	3	1 in: 766	$5
  Seventh	2 + Mega Ball	1 in: 473	$5
• mediabrat

  

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  Quote: Originally posted by House Edge on Jul 4, 2014

  Your one of many other players who can't compare odds. You say "why would New Yorkers play Sweet Million when that same dollar gets you a chance at a minimum of $15 million (Mega Millions) or TWO chances at a minimum of $2 million (Lotto)? Well you say $15 million im guessing you mean jackpot after its reset. Wow have you seen the odds on the new Mega Million game 1: 258,890,850. Your odds of winning Sweet Million is 67 times better than winning Mega Millions Jackpot. And New York Lotto have the worst odds on payouts 1: 22,528,737for $2,00,000. Other payouts are bad

  You also mention Sweet Million was a good game in concept, but the execution was terrible.  I think it would have performed better if the other prizes were $5000/$400/$30/$2 rather than $500/$40/$3.  Check Mega Millions 1 in: 52,835 to win $500, Sweet Million 1: 18,816. You see the rest. Don't talk out of hand you know nothing about odds or payouts. People buy more tickets of Mega Millions because the Jackpot reaches $ millions a year and for a $1 why not don't complain of the odds on Sweet Millions and payouts.

   

  Sweet Million

  NUMBERS MATCHED	PRIZE*	CHANCES OF WINNING
  6 out of 6	$1,000,000 Cash	1 in: 3,838,380
  5 out of 6	$500.00 Cash	1 in: 18,816
  4 out of 6	$40.00 Cash	1 in: 456
  3 out of 6	$3.00 Cash	1 in: 32

   

  Mega Millions

  PRIZE LEVEL	WINNING NUMBERS MATCHED PER GAME	CHANCES OF WINNING PER GAME	PRIZE
  First	5 + Mega Ball	1 in: 258,890,850	JACKPOT*
  Second	5	1 in: 18,492,204	$1,000,000
  Fourth	4	1 in: 52,835	$500
  Fifth	3 + Mega Ball	1 in: 10,720	$50
  Sixth	3	1 in: 766	$5
  Seventh	2 + Mega Ball	1 in: 473	$5

  Your one of many other players who can't compare odds.

  *I* can certainly compare odds.  My point, and I think we agree on this, is that most players can not and/or do not compare odds.  If they do, obviously it doesn't make an impression on them, because if it did, NO ONE WOULD PLAY THE LOTTERY because of how remote the odds are!

  The thing is, I can also compare payouts.  And yes, the odds are worse for C4L than they are for SM.  However, the payouts for C4L are better when you compare them by what you get for matching X number of balls, and I think that's what your average player is looking at.

  Match	Sweet Million	Cash4Life	C4L w/Cash Ball
  6	$1,000,000	n/a	n/a
  5	$500	$1k/week	$1k/day
  4	$40	$500	$2500
  3	$3	$25	$100
  2	$0	$4	$10
  1	$0	$0	$2

   

  Well you say $15 million im guessing you mean jackpot after its reset.

  Uh, yeah, that's what I meant by "minimum".  Thought that was obvious. 

  I don't think I'm off base when I say that players notice the payouts.  (If not the lower-tier prizes, then at least the top prize.)  What other reason could you come up with for why SM had such a small player base?

  I get it, you really liked Sweet Million.  There are a couple other New Yorkers here who are with you on that.  Unfortunately, your game is gone, and I highly doubt it's coming back.  You'll have to deal with that sooner or later.
• million0914

  

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  I also agree with House Edge about Sweet Million vs. Cash 4 Life.

  Also, since we are discussing per dollar odds, the per dollar odds for New York Lotto are actually 1.93 times better than Cash 4 Life.

  New York Lotto's odds are 1 out of 22,528,737.  Cash 4 Life, like House Edge said, is 1 out of 43,692,096.  And New York Lotto lets you receive money over 26 years, whereas Cash 4 Life guarantees only 20 years.  Plus, the New York Lotto jackpot rolls over whenever nobody wins, unlike Cash 4 Life.
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  Quote: Originally posted by million0914 on Jul 7, 2014

  I also agree with House Edge about Sweet Million vs. Cash 4 Life.

  Also, since we are discussing per dollar odds, the per dollar odds for New York Lotto are actually 1.93 times better than Cash 4 Life.

  New York Lotto's odds are 1 out of 22,528,737.  Cash 4 Life, like House Edge said, is 1 out of 43,692,096.  And New York Lotto lets you receive money over 26 years, whereas Cash 4 Life guarantees only 20 years.  Plus, the New York Lotto jackpot rolls over whenever nobody wins, unlike Cash 4 Life.

  I also agree with House Edge about Sweet Million vs. Cash 4 Life.

  I'm not saying he's wrong.  Any of us here can clearly see that he's absolutely right about the odds.  All I'm saying is that your average lottery player does not care about the odds.  All they look at is the payout.
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  Someone hit 1k a day for life.

  Someone hit 1k a week for life.

  76 players have won 2500.

  I would say this game blows away SM.

  I will agree the $2 price sucks but all games will be that soon.

  
• million0914

  

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  I also agree with House Edge about why isn't Pick 10 the game that is being replaced, instead of Sweet Million.  In fact, I even talked about it in another thread, 276033.

  While we are on the subjects of odds and money, Pick 10 is 2.32 times harder to win than Sweet Million, yet the top prize is only half that of Sweet Million.  And considering that nobody won the top prize in the last ten drawings of Sweet Million, as well as House Edge's revenue numbers, think of the money that the New York Lottery could make by replacing Pick 10 and making Sweet Million a daily game.  According to Wikipedia, there was never more than two winners in any Sweet Million drawing, so it is highly unlikely that there will be a situation where there will be six or more winners, and these winners will receive $5 million divided by the number of winners, as opposed to each winner receiving $1 million.

  I haven't played Pick 10 since the prior millennium.  The only person I know who plays Pick 10 is my former landlord, who plays because he likes the fact that there are six different prize levels in Pick 10.  Other than that reason (and consolation prizes should never be the aim of playing a lottery game), I can't think of any reason why people would choose to play Pick 10 over Sweet Million.
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  Quote: Originally posted by million0914 on Jul 9, 2014

  I also agree with House Edge about why isn't Pick 10 the game that is being replaced, instead of Sweet Million.  In fact, I even talked about it in another thread, 276033.

  While we are on the subjects of odds and money, Pick 10 is 2.32 times harder to win than Sweet Million, yet the top prize is only half that of Sweet Million.  And considering that nobody won the top prize in the last ten drawings of Sweet Million, as well as House Edge's revenue numbers, think of the money that the New York Lottery could make by replacing Pick 10 and making Sweet Million a daily game.  According to Wikipedia, there was never more than two winners in any Sweet Million drawing, so it is highly unlikely that there will be a situation where there will be six or more winners, and these winners will receive $5 million divided by the number of winners, as opposed to each winner receiving $1 million.

  I haven't played Pick 10 since the prior millennium.  The only person I know who plays Pick 10 is my former landlord, who plays because he likes the fact that there are six different prize levels in Pick 10.  Other than that reason (and consolation prizes should never be the aim of playing a lottery game), I can't think of any reason why people would choose to play Pick 10 over Sweet Million.

  Yes your right, there has never been more than 2 jackpot winners in a single draw. Also I should mention 2 jackpot winners in a single draw has only occurred 2 times. 
• abjorik

  

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  NY Lottery is really shameless. The odds always worse and worse, and now the ticket Price has DOUBLED with offering the lower odds. How crappy is that. I hope people eventually gonna find out that and quit buying the C4L tickets!

   

  P.S. Never bought a C4L ticket
• million0914

  

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  Other problems I have with Cash 4 Life is the fact that unlike Powerball, Mega Millions, and New York Lotto, if nobody wins, the jackpot does not roll over into the next drawing.

  Unlike Take 5, if nobody wins, the top prize money does not move down to the second prize.

  Unlike Sweet Million and Pick 10, if there is more than one winner, the top prize gets divided amongst all of the winners.  As I mentioned before, in Sweet Million, up to five people could win the top prize of $1 million.  And in Pick 10, up to 10 people can win the top prize of $500,000.

  Unless the New York Lottery makes one or more of these changes to Cash 4 Life, I don't see myself playing this game in the foreseeable future.  Fortunately for the New York Lottery, there are a lot of suckers that won't care, and will play Cash 4 Life.
• million0914

  

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  Today through August 28, on Mondays and Thursdays, the New York Lottery has a promotion going on with Cash 4 Life:  Buy two games ($4 worth) on one ticket, get a free Quick Pick.  You can either play two games on one drawing, or one game for two consecutive drawings.  I might take advantage of this promotion.
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  Quote: Originally posted by million0914 on Jul 10, 2014

  Other problems I have with Cash 4 Life is the fact that unlike Powerball, Mega Millions, and New York Lotto, if nobody wins, the jackpot does not roll over into the next drawing.

  Unlike Take 5, if nobody wins, the top prize money does not move down to the second prize.

  Unlike Sweet Million and Pick 10, if there is more than one winner, the top prize gets divided amongst all of the winners.  As I mentioned before, in Sweet Million, up to five people could win the top prize of $1 million.  And in Pick 10, up to 10 people can win the top prize of $500,000.

  Unless the New York Lottery makes one or more of these changes to Cash 4 Life, I don't see myself playing this game in the foreseeable future.  Fortunately for the New York Lottery, there are a lot of suckers that won't care, and will play Cash 4 Life.

  I suspect Cash4Life will go the way NE Lucky For Life went. They will let players get used to the game then they will find an excuse to make changes. Of course the changes will be to their favor. There has been 4 Cash4Life winners of the top prize and this is not good from the perspective of the lotteries.

  Since they brought the matrix changes on September 19, 2013 of the NE Lucky For Life game there has been 0 winners of the top prize.

  That money's gone fo ever